Digital Mode JS8 real time translation in foreign language!

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by NN2X, Dec 30, 2018.

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  1. NN2X

    NN2X Ham Member QRZ Page

    By now, unless one has been living under a rock, most Hams know of the highly disruptive new digital mode called JS8, which is FT8 with a QSO, supporting 13 to 20wpm. Key board to KeyBoard / SAME SPECS, The ability to decode -24db below the noise floor, occupying only 50hz, and the difference from FT8, JS8 can support 13 to 20wpm

    Now for the other feature!

    Now we can type in the DX country's language.

    How is this done?

    Before calling CQ DX, open Google and type in the search box Translate English to french

    Call CQ DX . Like normal

    DX Station responds, lets say DN8NO

    Go back to Google Translate change to English to German Language

    Type in the text box the normal, Name here is Tom, Location is Allen Texas,

    Copy and paste the Google translation in German language

    I did this with several QSO's this morning and one with DJ8NO, (Peter) in Germany. He thought i spoke perfect German, (I do speak it) but nothing like Google translator

    They say, when speaking (In this case messaging) in their language, you speak to their heart.

    And for those who desire to have a QSO, this really does the trick.

    The actual inherent delay (15 Sec) cycle between TX and RX, gives plenty a time to translate!

    Just another value add to the digital modes, especially JS8...

    C U on the bands
    NN2X
    TOM
     
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  2. W0FW

    W0FW Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    I know your intentions are good, Tom....but "highly disruptive"??

    Seriously?

    Seems to me that a different choice of words would have been much more effective at describing JS8.....perhaps ....."the 2nd most popular digital mode called JS8".

    Also wouldn't call copy and pasting from Google Translate a "feature" as it can be done in all KB2KB digital modes. You make it sound as though it were some revolutionary, groundbreaking and earth shattering new feature of JS8Call....which it is NOT.


    I know you are just wanting to promote JS8....and that is honorable but some care should be exercised in crafting your posts as to not cause confusion by providing misleading information.
     
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  3. NN2X

    NN2X Ham Member QRZ Page

    W0FW

    OK, let me define

    innovative or groundbreaking.

    Let me elaborate

    Having the ability to decode at -24db below the noise floor, and having a QSO at 13 to 20wpm... Yep that will do it...Ground breaking, Nothing else can do that including CW. So yes, ground breaking!

    Although JS8 is not officially released, but check out the stats .The program JS8 is either 2nd or 3rd place in popularity
    If i check the stats during the day it is usually 2nd place.


    Mode Count
    FT8 1091929
    JT9 1521
    JS8 1319
    CW 1149
    JT65 372
    PSK31 91
    OPERA 41
    MSK144 23
    JT65B 9
    ROS 4
    OLIVIA-8 3
    PI4 3
    MFSK16 3
    OLIVIA 3
    WSPR 2
    FSK441 1
    OLIVIA-4 1
     
  4. KC1DQH

    KC1DQH Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hey, I've been using google translate with psk31 for a while now. Maybe not 'groundbreaking', but it's a fun way to get a qso going.. The main limitation seems to be that the foreign language needs to use our (latin) alphabet.
     
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  5. NN2X

    NN2X Ham Member QRZ Page

    Using JS8, is ground breaking, as it able to decode at -24dB below the noise floor, while having a QSO, That is great! (FT8 has the same specifications, but can't have a QSO

    No other digital mode including CW can perform this technical feat, and yes the translation is cool combination

    Cheers

    NN2X, Tom
     
  6. W7UUU

    W7UUU QRZ Lifetime Member #133 Administrator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    Tom - why not just let the ham community make the decision if they want this mode or not?

    I don't recall Joe Taylor or Steve Franke endlessly plugging their new modes and calling them "Highly disruptive"

    Your endless cheerleading just gets really old. I'm sorry but it's true.

    When the JS8CALL developers finally decide to actually RELEASE this "highly disruptive" mode, if the desire is there folks will join in.

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
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  7. K0UA

    K0UA Ham Member QRZ Page


    Amen. You have beat this horse to near death. Your constant cheerleading is making people NOT want to try JS8. Please give it a rest. And what is holding up the release of JS8? Enough beta already.
     
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  8. K2SDS

    K2SDS XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    OH boy... Google translate. What could go wrong?? I'll pass.
     
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  9. WB5WPA

    WB5WPA Ham Member QRZ Page

    re: "I know your intentions are good, Tom....but "highly disruptive"??
    . . . . Seriously?
    "

    Not quite in the same vein/applicable as what Tom Watson said about computers, but, here is his quote anyway:

    Thomas J. Watson Jr. of I.B.M. is said to have opined in 1943 that, “I think there is a world market for about five computers.”

    If the Google xlate could be seamlessly integrated to the app, would this mark a first in this kind of over-the-air app?
     
  10. HK4KM

    HK4KM XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Just take into account that many translations via Google Translate will be like:

    Me Tarzan, you Jane.

    Possibly enough to get by on but could lead to mixups.

    Specially English to Spanish and vice-versa or non-romance language to a romance one.
     

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