Chameleon P-Loop 2.0 & A Real Shark Attack- K6UDA Radio Episode 46

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  1. K6UDA

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    I'm on San Salvador Island in the Bahamas testing out the new CHA-P Loop 2.0. Made a 3,000 mile QSO with Dr. Balun back in California. You also get to see a little bit of my dive trip and an honest to goodness shark attack by not one but two sharks.
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  2. NH7RO

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    Well, the shark attack was neat.
  3. KM4CQG

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    Next why dont you test the new F Loop with the new remote rotor and tuner.

    Glad your feeling better.

  4. KB9UFE

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    Thanks for the video. Nice job.

  5. VK3CAB

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    Bob, a nice video and over view of your ham radio experiences on San Salvador Island.
    I've had a go at building mag loops of approximately the same dimensions as the CHA-P Loop 2.0 and I too have had disappointing experiences on 40mts. I was using RG213 with the braid and core shorted together as the major loop. I had a look into this lack of performance and found the '66Pacific' site where they had a link to an ' antenna calculator' (the site address is The calculation showed showed that the efficiency of my antenna on 40mt was 10%. Which isn’t too good if you’re only working QRP 5Watts into it! According to the same calculator if I doubled the diameter of the primary loop to 7.2mts and tripled the conductor thickness to 30 mm the efficiency would soar to 73%. As it stands my mag loop is acceptable for 18MHz with a 76% efficiency. And these results are born out by the experiences you have had on 20 and 18mts.
    Tony VK3CAB
  6. M6XXX

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    Good video Bob beautiful place.
    Glyn M6XXX
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  7. K3RW

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    That's the problem with all these manufactured loops--they aren't really right for any frequency but supposedly can cover a lot of them, even if they do it poorly on most of them.

    You might get away with a 1.5 or 2-turn loop on 40m and not have to double the size--just bundle the loop together on itself--either 1 full turn or maybe 1.5 depending on how you do it. I haven't seen a reliable calculator for that type. Uniform currents can be a challenge though.

    Loops are cool though, but far more rewarding for the homebrewer than anything I bought out of a box.
  8. K3FHP

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    Tony, I would think a 22 foot diameter loop would be practical for portable operation. Are you thinking feet vs meters or circumference(as the calculator uses) vs diameter?
  9. NH7RO

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    Are you serious? My 7-foot diameter 40M loop is just "small" enough to carry about 25 feet out into my back yard to set up! 22 feet might require a forklift of some sort!

    All of these commercial STLs that use braided coax are responsible for the bad reputation that they garner---if they would only get their act together and use solid and continuous copper or aluminum tubing with a proper vacuum variable the results would be far, far superior.

    I can't imagine ever using one of these Chameleon or Alpha or Alex Loops unless I was into digital or CW modes they are so inefficient!
  10. K7LZR

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