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Discussion in 'Discussions, Opinions & Editorials' started by N4UP, Dec 13, 2012.

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  1. N4UP

    N4UP Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Yes, I thought the title might get your attention. This is a vent regarding ham radio website links purporting to be related to ham radio which end up taking you to an Asian porn site.

    Today I was naively and innocently reading the thread here about QRZCQ.com and it prompted me to check my call-sign information on various ham radio websites, so I did a Google search of my call letters to see what sites might be listing my "information" ... So far so good.

    I discovered two references to something called "Castalia Island DX Association N4UP" which of course piqued my interest, as I have never heard of the Castalia Island DX Association and I am the only-ever holder of N4UP. One reference was on eham.net (
    http://www.eham.net/links/rating/7059 ) and the other was on the Durham FM Association Ham Radio Club website ( http://www.rtpnet.org/dfma/site/links/index.html). The Durham FM Association Ham Radio Club link was very disturbing, as it is a link to an Asian porn site. Of course I have absolutely nothing to with the Durham FM club or the Castalia Island DX club or Asian porn ( or any porn for that matter ). So then I sent emails to the eham webmaster and officers of the Durham club asking them politely to remove any links that associate me with any of this. I haven't received any response yet, but it is early days.

    Curious, I then tried to find information about the Castalia Island DX Club. I don't know whether or not it is legitimate, but it seems to be so, given the QRZ.com pages associated with their call-signs and given their own actual website ( not the porn site ). The DX club uses a couple of call-signs, one of which is K4UP ( not my N4UP ). I then tried to send emails to the DX club officials, and discovered that some of the email addresses provided here for them on QRZ.com were based on the offending porn site address. Maybe the DX club used to own that domain name and now it is taken over by Asian porn, maybe, I don't know. Note that I am not posting the link here to the porn site.


    I even found a Yahoo group for the Castalia Island DX Association with a direct link to the porn site so I am now inferring that they failed to renew the domain name.

    I am guessing that the Durham FM club and the Castalia Island DX club are legitimate clubs and had nothing to do with the hi-jacking. I am also guessing that whoever did the hi-jacking used my call-sign N4UP instead of the DX club call-sign of K4UP by mistake ( if you're going to hi-jack something then getting the call-sign wrong is just adding insult to injury ).

    Of course it could all be entirely innocent. If the DX club "lost" their domain name and the Asian porn folks picked it up. If someone simply entered N4UP by mistake instead of K4UP in the original titles. Imagine one day QRZ. com forgets to renew their domain name and you click on the QRZ.com link and it takes you to an Asian porn site. Stranger things have happened.

    So now I am feeling slightly better, having vented.
     
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  2. AB3RI

    AB3RI Ham Member QRZ Page

    It's not just ham radio sites. I've owned several domain names that, since I've release them, if you go there now, they are porn sites.

    I used to have a domain name for a photo classifieds for model aviation site that I no longer have the domain name as I now release the code to R/C clubs, but if you go to the old domain name, you'll get an eyeful. I suppose those with these sites are expecting that since the domain name was once used, that it would have some type of following.

    And, it's not just old and released domain names either. One of my R/C clubs, that I maintain the website for, has a .org TLD name. Recently, a member complained at a meeting that when he goes to the Club website, he is redirected to a page that his virus program has flagged and blocked. Well, it turns out that he was using .com instead of the .org which was proper. Sure enough, the .com page had malware on it. And, the domain name isn't something typical, so whoever did it must have assumed that since the .com wasn't registered, but there is another extension registered, then by using the more common .com would mean that they could use that for catching users who mistakenly type the wrong URL.

    I feel sorry for those on the internet today who aren't technical savvy. You gotta really be paying attention.
     
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  3. KA3JLW

    KA3JLW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Welcome to the internet.
     
  4. AB3RI

    AB3RI Ham Member QRZ Page

    Thank you. I'm glad to be here. :p
     
  5. N4UP

    N4UP Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Indeed. Even virus protection like Norton is not enough. I also use Malwarebytes anti-malware software. And even then, sometimes my Firefox browser gets hi-jacked. So I have a quick link to task management software which enables me to "delete" my browser and start over.
     
  6. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    I normally don't use any of that stuff, although I do use a firewall with settable parameters and I have it set pretty tightly. I hate deleting my browser history, as leaving it intact allows much faster navigation to previously used sites. I can just type the first couple of letters of any site I've been to and it fills in the rest, or gives me options to click on which save keystrokes. If not for my very abundant browser history I'd probably waste an hour a day.
     
  7. KT1F

    KT1F Ham Member QRZ Page

    Both your assumptions appear to be correct. I think someone typed N4UP somewhere where they meant K4UP. That's probably fixable if you contact the right person but as for the domain, if you're talking about C I D X A . COM (spaces so it doesn't become a link) then it appears that the club lost it probably earlier this year. whois info pasted below. There's nothing the club can do about it now. They either forgot to renew it or intentionally let it go.

    If you forget to renew a domain, you usually get a grace period where the registrar will change the name server settings which means that any web site or email will stop but you can still renew it for the usual $10 or whatever. That grace period 30 days at many domain registrars but shorter at some.

     
  8. WA6MHZ

    WA6MHZ Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    U won't find any PORN on the famous www.wa6mhz.org website
    (except some KITTY PORN!!!)
     
  9. WB2WIK

    WB2WIK Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Kitty porn is the worst.

    It can litter up the place. Also makes me sleepy for a catnap.
     
  10. N4UP

    N4UP Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    A typo and a lapsed domain name are certainly preferable to someone hacking into a website and changing "data" ... so the "problem" is mostly one of there being out-dated links, and you can't really expect any website manager to continually validate links. To his credit, Mike N2MG of eham.com responded quickly to my email and the link to the Castalia Island DX Association on eham.com has been removed.

    I have also noted that the Durham FM club has two websites, with completely different domain names, one of which appears to be somewhat out of date. The newer website does not have the offending porn link. That leads to another observation, namely that when you change web-hosts the old host may not take down the old site but leave it there, unattended, even though you are no longer paying for it. That happened to me. I used to have a website hosted by erols.com and they were bought out by rcn.com about ten years ago. My website got transferred to the new hosting computers, but the old site ( 1997 ) is still there if you know where to look. Some web-crawlers are smart enough to know that a site like that is not being updated, while some continue to provide "results" on websites that haven't been updated in over 10 years.

    And as someone mentioned, suffix confusion is another problem, and one that many "nefarious" entities exploit. I recall that when the xxx domain was introduced, the universities here had to scramble to buy up the new domains similar to their edu's to avoid people looking for the university website ( edu ) and getting porn ( xxx ) instead. I own a site with an org suffix and I am continually bombarded with emails trying to scare me into buying domains with all the other suffixes as well. I won't do it.
     
  11. KJ3N

    KJ3N Ham Member QRZ Page

    Are you sure about that? I clicked on that link and went directly to the Durham FM website.

    Ahh.. I see... it's the link on their website. Interesting...

    The porn site also tries to download a file to the computer. Nice....

    Additional note: Every link on that porn site is for the aforementioned file.
     
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  12. K6CPO

    K6CPO Ham Member QRZ Page

    I've long held the opinion that if you selected a word at random from the dictionary and plugged it into a search engine, you'd get at least one porn site hit. I've tried it several times and it works about 75% of the time...

    On the other hand, the internet can be an awesome tool. An old friend of mine gave me a couple of old tube testers, one of which came without the operator's manual. I googled the brand name of the tester and a link to the manual came up first.
     
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  13. N4UP

    N4UP Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Yes, sorry, I should have been more explicit. The problem link was a link on the Durham FM club site. Hopefully we are all smart enough not to download the "offending" file whatever it might be.
     
  14. KE6KA

    KE6KA Ham Member QRZ Page

    This is the reason I use Linux for the computer I do most of the web browsing on.

    And clicking on a link is not required. A lot of this stuff slips past website owners due to the add networks they use.
     
  15. N4UP

    N4UP Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    I am happy to report that the Durham FM Association has acknowledged the problem link, but it appears on a previous version of their website, and they no longer have any control over the "dead" website. They have now asked the original web-host to remove the entire site. I appreciate the timely response of both eham.net and the Durham Club and their efforts to remove the offending links.
     
  16. KA1MDA

    KA1MDA Ham Member QRZ Page

    If you think that's bad, try doing a Goggle search for HUSTLER 6BTV!
     
  17. WH2HAO

    WH2HAO QRZ Moderator QRZ Page

    So what is the problem, it saves you the work of finding these sites on your own..
     
  18. N8YX

    N8YX Ham Member QRZ Page

    To those of us who do our web surfing from a bootable Linux CD (think OWASP, Knoppix or BackTrack) such trivialities hardly matter.
     
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