ARRL Petitions FCC for HF Phone Privileges for Technicians

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  1. K7JEM

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    Are you saying that there are not now people operating on these bands, or that they are not actually new privileges for generals?
     
  2. K7MH

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    Think folded dipole in the attic...With about 500 folds!:D
     
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  3. K1FBI

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    Are you seeing anywhere where I clearly stated such things?

    Maybe this too is beyond you.
     
  4. K7JEM

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    My original point is that generals have new privileges that no one seems too concerned about. They are saying that adding privileges "lowers standards", but only seem to apply this when the privileges added are for the technician license class. Then you interject something about a large antenna or a 630M button on a radio, as if that has any bearing on whether or not the privilege exists.
     
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  5. N2EY

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    No they didn't.

    The FCC began phasing out the Technician Plus license in 2000, when they began renewing all Tech Plus licenses as Techs. The process was essentially complete in 2010.

    Technicians who had not passed a code test got HF privileges in 2007.
     
  6. N2EY

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    DEVIL'S ADVOCATE MODE = ON

    If Techs get new HF privileges, a couple of "bad" things may happen:

    1) Some of them may have less "incentive" to upgrade. Here's why: Today, if a Technician wants to operate digital and/or voice modes on the HF/MF bands other than 10 meters, s/he has to upgrade to General or Extra. No other option. If Techs get the proposed privileges, they will have some digital and voice privileges on some HF bands, and they might try them out and postpone upgrading.

    2) Some Technicians might actually use their new privileges, resulting in more QRM in places formerly reserved for Generals and above.

    3) The new privileges might actually attract more newcomers, who might actually use the new privileges, resulting in more QRM in places formerly reserved for Generals and above.

    4) Those Technicians who use the new privileges might actually turn out to be good, courteous operators - making some of the more-experienced ones look bad by comparison.

    5) Items 2, 3 and 4 might result in more growth and band activity in US amateur radio, which will work against those who wail and moan that "amateur radio is dying" and such.

    DEVIL'S ADVOCATE MODE = OFF

    On an historical note:

    When the Novice license was created in 1951, its original privileges were a small slice of 80 CW, 11 meters, and part of 2 meters. Over time, Novices got part of 40 meters, part of 15 meters, lost 11 meters, lost 2 meters......
     
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  7. KK5JY

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    This is actually one of the two reasons why FCC is going to reject ARRL's petition. ;)
     
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  8. WE4B

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    Exactly... Technicians got the privileges of a Tech+
     
  9. K7JEM

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    That could happen. Or not. It's hard to say what the FCC will do in any particular case.
     
  10. KK5JY

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    If you take the time to read their previous rulings on this subject, it's actually very easy to predict what they will do. :)
     
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