Advice with an 811H amp

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio Amplifiers' started by K1OIK, Dec 29, 2017.

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  1. K1OIK

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    The glass is not cracked.
     
  2. WB2WIK

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    Sounds right, but the seller might be if he claims they're "real" 811As without testing them at 1.7kV at 30 MHz.

    As previously stated, I see lots of "811A's" sold for audio amplifier use and many of those won't function at 1.8kV and HF radio frequencies. It's possible this is what you got.
     
  3. K1OIK

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    The seller said:
    The tubes were 811A's. They were pulled from my Ameritron AL-811 Amplifier. 5 years old. Offered up for sale as I received three fresh 811A's for Christmas. I believe the maximum Plate Voltage that can be applied to these tubes is 1500 volts, vice the 1800 you applied. These tubes were tested in both by TV-7 and Amplitrex tube tester prior to listing. I used the Amplitrex results in the auction. None the less, with eBay, I have absolutely no repercussions.
     
  4. W1BR

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    I wonder what his B plus voltage was in his AL-811? Sounds like the seller is doing a song and dance routine--but eBay has you covered and he knows it. Once he admits he used them in an AL-811 and represented them as such, the 1500 volt max voltage claim is at best dubious.
     
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  5. KA9JLM

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    3 new tubes for your AL-811H ?
     
  6. K1OIK

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    I wonder what he did for the 4th?
     
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  7. WB2WIK

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    If you posted what the seller wrote verbatim, he didn't say he had an "H," he wrote "AL-811."

    The AL-811 or AL-811H produce 1700Vdc B+ normally (manual warns "not to exceed 1800V") but the 811A was always rated 1500Vdc maximum ICAS, so the design intentionally operates them above their ratings.

    http://www.r-type.org/pdfs/811a.pdf
     
  8. W1QJ

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    ANY decently made tube should be able to handle 300 volts over rating. A good tube should hi pot well over 2 times
     
  9. WB2WIK

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    I was unfamiliar with the tube tester the eBay seller said he definitely used to test his 811As for sale, an Amplitrex AT-1000.

    Specifications are below. It outputs a maximum B+ of 500V. That's insufficient to test anything about an 811A other than filament integrity and perhaps cathode emission.
     

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  10. K7MH

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    Depends on where it is installed and how soon you catch the leak.
    A couple years ago I was fine one day and the next no hot water. I went out to the garage where it was installed and there was water everywhere. It leaked a lot and all at once it seems! Even a small leak doesn't take long to empty the tank. It was a mess but nothing of importance lost to the "flood". It sure doesn't do any cardboard boxes that are on the floor any good!!
    Welcome to home ownership!!
     

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