A little "help", PLEASE?

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  1. KA5LQJ

    KA5LQJ Ham Member QRZ Page


    I've got the 2gB of P2700 RAM ordered and should be shipped out this week
    for my Dell 2400 computer. I got word that the guy that was gonna help me
    get Xbuntu 10.10 was injured on his job and is seeing all kinds of doctors to
    get him back healthy. He's gonna be out-of-commission for a period of time

    There USED to be places that made CD's of the Open Source software and
    would ship them to you and charge a nominal fee for the replacement of the
    CD's they used. I've looked and all I can find are those sites that will let you
    download to a DVD, which I don't have on the Dell.

    Does anyone know where I can get the aforementioned Linux distro that will
    mail me the CD's? If it's an individual, I'd be MORE than glad to compensate
    you for the cost of the CD's.


  2. KD8DEY

    KD8DEY Ham Member QRZ Page

    If you had a best buy close by they would have had it in stock no waiting at a good price!!.
    Thats where I got mine for my 2400.
    do you have a secondary Harddrive?
    Out of curiosity why are you wanting to install linux? Replace your Haddrive? loose your windows disk/Key??
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2012
  3. G4LNA

    G4LNA Ham Member QRZ Page

    I've just checked and you can download Xbuntu from here and it will fit onto a CD, so why not download your own?
  4. KD8DEY

    KD8DEY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yup That particular version of linux will fit on a CD, not a DVD, BUT if his 2400 is anything like mine The cheap as supplied CD burner has probably given up the ghost by now. (crappy low end Phillips burner)

    mine will read but the burn capability was lost years ago.
  5. G4LNA

    G4LNA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Does he have to use the Phillips burner? There other ones that can be downloaded, at least I used to when I used to use my Windows 98 virus box many years ago.
  6. KD8DEY

    KD8DEY Ham Member QRZ Page

    I'm not talking about software.

    The CD-r drive supplied in the Dell Dimensions 2400 was made by Phillips and were not very reliable.
    Mine only worked for a couple of years before needing replaced.

    If he has access to a working CR-r drive and only needs software? ImgBurn works fine and is a free download.

    is the 2400 up and running?, does it have a 2nd Hard drive installed?
  7. G4LNA

    G4LNA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Oh right! Shows how much I know :D
  8. KD8DEY

    KD8DEY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Phillips is the YUGO of cd drives!!

    It would help to know if the computer he wants to install it on is already running with an operating system.
    Some versions of Linux will boot from a USB drive. Ubuntu is one of those BUT since the version he wants to install is based on Ubuntu that may or may not work.

    If the computer doesnt have an operating system installed, and he has no working CD burner on the computer he is using, he could download the ISO, then use winrar to extract the files to a thumb drive, try to boot the computer from the thumb drive and install.

    If the computer he wants to install it on already has window..............
  9. K5PHW

    K5PHW Ham Member QRZ Page

  10. KA8NCR

    KA8NCR Ham Member QRZ Page

    You just need one CD; used for a 30 MB net install image.


    From there, you boot and install everything over the internet. Keep in mind that most Linux distributions that support net install do a very poor job of finding mirror paths and telling you what they're looking to find. Net installs are looking for the stage2.img file, so give it the path on the mirror you're using and pay attention to what the menu may insert by default.

    For example, if the path to stage2 is /mirror/pub/linux/os/x86_64/install/stage2.img and the installer assumes install/stage2; you will want to give it /mirror/pub/linux/os/x86_64

    It is pain. But it still is better than burning a bunch of CDs and DVDs for packages you'll never, ever use.

    Install from USB


    Your new computer should support USB booting.

    Since you already have a computer, this might be your best option. And you should be able to get an entire distribution loaded onto one USB stick. When you're done with the install, you can use the USB stick for something else.
  11. KG4KGW

    KG4KGW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Why would you waste a CD, DVD, or otherwise on an install? Use a USB thumb drive to install it and you don't spend a dime. Just set the bios to firstboot from the USB. The machine can't tell if it is a DVD, CD, or whatever it only reads 1's and 0's.

    BTW, you can replace the old drive with a new one for under $20 if you go to newegg or Tigerdirect. Shipping is probably more than the actual part.


    Must have been posting at the same time as the guy before me (an hour different on the time zones? ) his USB advice is the way to go!
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2012
  12. KA5LQJ

    KA5LQJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hi Robert, All,

    The reasons I'm moving over to Linux and eventually dropping WindBlow$ is real simple,
    #1. It's FREE! #2. It will do things that M$ won't #3. No Antivirus needed, #4. Data
    is secure #5. IF there is a hickup in the distro, you have thousands of users writing
    patches to take care of the problem......I have more is you wish, LOL!

    Yes, I have a CD 'burner', but it doesn't work. :mad: Good ol' Dell. Why don't I download
    it off the WEB? Well, I'm a accident waiting to happen. Murphy and I are related, LOL!
    If something can go wrong with what I'm attempeting, it will mess up in Spades. (♠)

    The distro I'm looking for is Xbuntu 10.10. It's an older version but has what I need in it
    to get started. After I become more familiar with it, I'll upgrade to the most stable version.

    Like the family photo, but, your uniform should be grey, not blue, LOL!



    B.U.B.B.A. <== The Brotherhood of Ugly, Bad, Buddies of America
  13. KD8DEY

    KD8DEY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Download and install download accelerator plus and you should be able to download the ISO no problem..
    what the hey, your gonna wipe it all back off anyhoo unless you plan to make it a dual boot system until you get more familiar with linux.
    I would go ahead and use the latest version.

    since the computer is running you could open the ISO with winrar and run the installation using the dual boot setup option


    I am not the one in blue...........
    Also I heard that Bubba is Jewish for grandma.........
  14. KA8NCR

    KA8NCR Ham Member QRZ Page

    You're not going to hurt anything, at worst you have to start over.

    Try the USB method, it is simpler than you think.
  15. KA5LQJ

    KA5LQJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hi All!

    Let me explan myself better. #1. I live on a small, disability check so it takes some 'time' to
    purchase things, doctor bills and food come first, LOL!

    Robert, KD8DEY, nice grey uniform <Salute!> I have some smaller hard drive, an 80 gig but
    it has some data on it I don't want to lose. I do plan on getting another hard drive a one terabyte that will go into the NEW computer that I will build. It will have Linux on it exclusively.
    I'm starting out with Xbuntu 10.10 on recommedations from a fellow ham and Slackware user.
    He said that Xbuntu would be a good start, then I could work my way up and maybe want Debian.

    Oh BTW, Yittish for grandmother is Bubbalah, LOL! Close but no cigar.

    Paul, G4LNA, the Phillips CD drive I find doesn't work, so I'll have to try and dig one up, but
    with this broken leg and being in a wheel chair and the computer stuff is in a shed out back,
    it's gonna take some real doing without physical help.

    Jeff, KA8NCR, Thanks for the tip about net installation. I wouldn't know where to look for that
    directory to put Linux into.

    Brian, KG4KGW, 'New Egg" seems to have the lowest price but I may be able to make a better
    'deal' locally and no shipping charges.

    I'm sick and tired of having to constantly be on guard for malware, and browser grabbers. Now it seems that some of the normal websites one would go to has a hidden porn program that infects your computer. I've been married to the same, gorgeous lady for 40 years and you could not pull me away from her, LOL! She's my best friend, next to JESUS.

    I have a lot of things I want to try in Linux that so far Windows hasn't been able to do, so I'm going to see how it acts.


  16. KD8DEY

    KD8DEY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Since you have a 2nd hard drive you can download the iso, then extract it to a folder using winrar onto the second drive.
    Then install by running from the folder. just read the prompts and you should be fine.
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