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802.11 Networking with HSMM-MESH(tm) Software

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  1. KD5OUG

    KD5OUG Ham Member QRZ Page

    802.11 Networking with HSMM-MESH(tm) Software

    Join us for a Webinar on Saturday January 8

    Space is limited.

    This webinar is an online version of a 802.11 wireless networking training seminar conducted by Kip Moravec AE5IB and Rusty Haddock AE5AE in the North Texas area at Lucas, TX. Seminar will include an introduction to wireless networking and the HSMM-MESH(tm) software developed for use on Linksys WRT54GL wireless router. Instructions for replacing the Linksys firmware with the new firmware will be given.

    HSMM-MESH(tm) is a high speed, self discovering, self configuring, fault tolerant, wireless computer network that can run for days from a fully charged car battery, or indefinitely with the addition of a modest solar array or other supplemental power source. The focus is on emergency communications.

    The seminar will be conducted at the Lucas Fire Department training room, 165 Country Club Rd, Lucas, TX. Doors will open at 8:00am for set up. Those hams wishing to attend the seminar in person should contact Kip Moravec AE5IB at Seating is limited.

    The latest version of HSMM-MESH(tm) is available for download at:

    A Yahoo group for HSMM in the North Texas area is:

    The Yahoo group for HSMM in the Austin area is:

    802.11 Networking with HSMM-MESH(tm) Software
    Saturday, January 8, 2011
    9:00 AM - 12:00 PM CST

    After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the Webinar.

    System Requirements
    PC-based attendees
    Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 Server

    Macintosh®-based attendees
    Required: Mac OS® X 10.4.11 (Tiger®) or newer
  2. N0MLR

    N0MLR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Need mor info.

    The article could use a bit more information? What is the application for this? Use it to connect to other routers or computers or? I hate articles that have links that want you to go here or go there for more info. If you can't be bothered to supply at least the basic information then why bother at all?
    (off soap box)
  3. W8QZ

    W8QZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    I'll second the request for a bit more info - for those of us that've never heard of it before - this sounds like it could be useful - a ham(?) networking setup - higher speed, perhaps easier to use than the packet network (that appears to be disintegrating). Could be an important e-comm tool - ?
  4. W8QZ

    W8QZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    I'll second the request for a bit more info - for those of us that've never heard of it before - this sounds like it could be useful - a ham(?) networking setup - higher speed, perhaps easier to use than the packet network (that appears to be disintegrating). Could be an important e-comm tool - ?
  5. AD5OU

    AD5OU Guest

    a little more info

    For those who don't like to follow links....
    From the HSMM-MESH site:
    Sheesh. Is it really that hard to follow a link?
  6. AD5OU

    AD5OU Guest

    And some MORE....

    By following a couple of links.......
  7. AE5IB

    AE5IB Ham Member QRZ Page

    Check it out.

    The ARRL had a High Speed Multimedia group in 2001. So the concept is not new. The HSMM-MESH project has just uses low cost routers and big antennas. A node costs less than any other HAM Radio.

    I have gotten 5 and 10 mile links easily with clear line of sight using off the shelf WRT54G routers and external antennas. We load mesh software to make configuration much easier.

    We send video and photographs that would be impossible with packet.

    Check out the webinar and see if it is something you would be interested in.

  8. K7ZZY

    K7ZZY Ham Member QRZ Page

    For those who want to experiment,
    I'd suggest checking your local thrift stores.
    I find them regularly for around $5-10 working just fine.
  9. AC2GK

    AC2GK Ham Member QRZ Page

    HSMMs caught my attention a few months ago. Being a computer (and now radio also) geek I found them to be very interesting. I recently picked up Ubiquity Networks NanoStation ( for a small HSMM project. So far I have been very happy with it, better yet as someone who has limited space HSMMs can be fun as the antennas are not massive. Once in place I was hoping to hook all of this up to my home-brew server and test the range from the 7th story!

    A fun way to experiment with the microwave bands using off the shelf equipment....

  10. AJ4LN

    AJ4LN Ham Member QRZ Page

    Sounds very interesting. I already have five WRT54G routers. I got some of them under $10 at thrift stores as someone already mentioned. I usually run Tomato firmware on mine for regular Internet use, since Tomato is so simple to use. Too bad I already have other commitments today.
  11. N1GKE

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    Thank you for the heads-up. I registered and look forward to an informative
    meeting. Also looking for other hams in RI & SE-MA & E-CT with similar
    interests. So far I have located only one.
  12. KD8NPB

    KD8NPB Ham Member QRZ Page


    I wouldn't mind experimenting with this.
  13. WB2GBF

    WB2GBF Ham Member QRZ Page

    on demand webinar?

    Would it be possible to capture this and make the webinar available on demand? I too have prior commitments today but would like to see what you are doing. I have been interested in this for some time now.

  14. KG4TKC

    KG4TKC Ham Member QRZ Page

    This all looks wonderful except for one small point,when you get to the bottom of the page,and are informed that PC-based attendees must use windo$ operating systems. The beauty of the WRT54G and the WRT54GL routers is that Cisco used GPL software,a linux based operating system. That opened the door to this kind of experimentation. To have a seat at the webinar table closed to the Linux OS,and open to only windo$ based proprietary operating systems is a scandal.
  15. K6CLS

    K6CLS Ham Member QRZ Page

    flea market and thrift shoppers beware - many "WRT54" routers are available, for really cheap. but the only ones you want are WRT54 model G or GL. those are the main ones capable of running linux and this firmware. there's a few others but it's complicated, just get a GL and you'll be fine.

    OK, serious time - anyone in silicon valley want to set up a mesh? this looks like a lot of fun.
  16. AC2GC

    AC2GC Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    It's all a conspiracy to keep the Penguin out in the cold or perhaps they just can't get the right Linux build idk .. Lucky for us Penguins love the cold
  17. AJ4LN

    AJ4LN Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yes. The GL is specifically designated to be able to run 3rd party firmware (The GL is essentially a G v4). For the G and GS models, you have to have specific revisions to easily run 3rd party firmware well.

    All the G and GS routers I have are within the better revisions (v1-v4), and they were all $10 or less. I have occasionally seen the lesser G/GS revisions (v5 and up) out there in thrift stores, so you do have to check.
  18. WR7R

    WR7R Ham Member QRZ Page

    Mesh and VOIP

    It is indeed the next frontier of amateur radio, and the price is right, open source being free and these second hand routers available at thrift stores as discussed for 10 bucks...I'm already running Asterisk for my phone system (free) and just bought the dmk engineering USB radio interface for interfacing Asterisk for VOIP applications. Mesh will allow emergency high speed applications and data transfer as mentioned that packet wont allow. I can imagine a VOIP repeater controller with Mesh TCP/IP interconnect that will put us way beyond radios with PL tones. Those left clutching vacuum tubes will have to hang on for the ride.
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2011
  19. N9AMI

    N9AMI Ham Member QRZ Page


    And the point of this is what? To have a network in a emergency situation when power is out? OR a disaster? The last thing I am thinking about is a computer network in any situation like that. :(
  20. KB9MWR

    KB9MWR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Well to me the point is to help develop new ideas and developments for the hobby.

    Another point is to try and keep ham radio relevant to a younger generation, as well as to the rest of the world in respect to the pace of technology.

    Another thought is this makes good use of our huge microwave allocations.

    In an emergency or disaster, what do you think about then?

    To me, the population keeps growing, as do how people communicate. Anyone who still thinks a few hams passing traffic using the antiquated NTS on 3x5 cards so that say even just 500 people could get word that their loves ones are okay is just pure insanity.

    From the Level 1 ARES training manual: "Do not think about how to use ham radio to send the message - just think about the best and fastest way to send it".

    Minneapolis Wi-Fi network aids rescuers - bridge collapse :
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