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50th Anniversary of the Silver Bridge Collapse

Discussion in 'Contests, DXpeditions, QSO Parties, Special Events' started by AB8S, Nov 30, 2017.

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  1. AB8S

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    N8S 50th Anniversary of the Silver Bridge Collapse

    12/15/2017 3:00:00 PM - EST

    12/17/2017 11:59:00 PM -EST

    Point Pleasant Silver Bridge Special Event Group

    N8S

    Contact :

    Gail Hodges

    6195 Sandhill Road

    Point Pleasant WV 25550

    ab8s@arrl.net

    304-675-8035
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2017
  2. K3XR

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    Was this the bridge featured in the movie The Mothman Prophecies with Richard Gere and Laura Linney ?
     
  3. AB8S

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    Yes
     
  4. AK9S

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    As a Licensed Professional Engineer and Bridge Quality Manager overseeing the adequacy of more than 5,000 bridges annually, I want to thank you for remembering and honoring the 46 lives lost in what can be characterized as an unfortunate and avoidable tragedy.

    Very poor engineering design allowed what should have been a localized failure from gross overloading to become a major bridge collapse. The County not realizing an overload of nearly 300% beyond the original design capacity actually exceeds today's factor of safeties in bridge design.

    This bridge, along with the failure of the Tacoma Narrows bridge, are still discussed in undergraduate structural engineering courses today - and are a heartfelt lesson to County DOTs to ensure capacity upgrades to existing bridges and/or complete bridge replacements to accommodate increased load demands.
     
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  5. K3XR

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    What percentage of the bridges in use today would you estimate are in dire need of replacement ?
     
  6. K2HAT

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    My guess is; in NY State, 30-40%. :) Each State has its own issues. But the Northeast has to deal with rock salt and freeze thaw cycles too.
     
  7. W7UUU

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  8. AK9S

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    Without looking at any statistical data, I would estimate less than 5% are in dire need of replacement. But another 25% have a remaining service life less than 30 years before they become critical.

    Remember even though a bridge may show heavy corrosion, broken secondary members, missing rivets, etc., they are designed for significantly more live load than actual. That is the only reason why we do not hear of multiple bridge failures every year in the US. We need to invest in updating our infrastructure, which requires a great deal of capital.
     
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  9. WV8CQ

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    I am really looking forward to the special event "N8S" on 20, 40 and 80 meters this weekend!
    We have many local events in West Virginia but we don't have many with amateur radio involved
    and it always a big plus for the local people, state people and allows for other states and even
    other countries to get involved if propagation permits.
    Even though the Silver Bridge collapse was a terrible event, this special radio event shines a
    positive light on the tragedy. I hope all the souls that were lost that day along with their families and
    friends will find some solace and peace in this 50th anniversary special event. God Bless them
    each and every one! Tom - WV8CQ
     
  10. K8ERV

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    Was that the bridge we saw violently twisting in the wind?

    TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
     
  11. AB8S

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    No, I think that one was out in the northwest.
     
  12. AK9S

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    Tom - Most likely the Tacoma Narrows bridge in Washington State. The main span was torsionally flexible and was oscillated by strong wind gusts flowing across the bridge. That created a tremendous dynamic twisting load as wind flowed below and over the span, resulting in collapse. The suspension cables also could not be counted on to provide any stiffness when in compression during the galloping action of the span.

    Civil Engineers back then did not understand dynamic effects well, which became more pronounced as bridge designs became more efficient and lighter. The ancient Romans who built large heavy stone arch bridges never had that problem, some of which survived major earthquakes over the centuries and are still in operation today.
     
  13. WJ4U

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    Wow, that was a long span - from 2017 'til now.
     
  14. K7KBN

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    Yep. The bridge that looked like it really wanted to be a carnival ride was the Tacoma Narrows bridge, known as "Gallopin' Gertie" to the PAC NW gang.
     
  15. K8ERV

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    I remember the story of a meeting involving bridge designers. Each gave his area of expertize.

    Someone asked the last person who he represented, and he said "I represent the wind" Neat.

    TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
     

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