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10 meter operation ??????

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  1. N1FEV

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    Hi my name is Sal N1FEV from Boston Ma. Just last week I purchased a NEW Alinco dxsr8 Hf Radio. I am loving it. I have been a Ham since 1975 or so but have never ever been able to operate on 10 Mtrs. Why do I not hear anything on 10 Mtrs ever.... am I looking in the wrong place? I know about band conditions however I Never ever Heard anything on 10 in all my years.... can someone HELP What am I doing wrong?? Thanks Sal
     
  2. M0GVZ

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    What time of day are you trying? What are you using for an antenna system? The sun has kind of spoiled play for a bit this last year. November was absolutely fantastic but its been fairly crap since then.
     
  3. W4HAY

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    Welcome to the sunspot peak that isn't, at least not by past standards. But DX is still very possible. Last week, New Zealand was booming in on my trap dipole, which has a lousy SWR up there on 10. I worked him around 4:00 PM local with 50 Watts.

    What kind of antenna are you using? When are you listening? Are you monitoring the DX beacons?
     
  4. WB2WIK

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    10m is open at some point almost every day here.

    Proper timing is pretty important, and so is a good antenna system, because a lot of the openings are pretty marginal.

    I hear lots and lots of fairly weak signals on 10m, using my beam. If I switch to a dipole, loop or vertical the majority of those signals drop right into the noise, and can't be heard.

    When we have a "good" opening, of course signals are stronger and all sorts of stuff works. Last November (2012) 10m was open pretty much every single day and there were a lot of very strong signals that could be worked with a mobile whip. Unfortunately, it's not quite like that now; but the Sporadic-E season is coming up soon (usually peaks in mid-June) and that should produce a lot of strong 10m signals.

    With the way condx are "right now," I'd recommend trying 10m from just after sunrise until mid-afternoon, as it seems to "crash and burn" after that, and it's not open at night at all other than perhaps some transequatorial paths.
     
  5. W7UUU

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    I can work the world with 100w on a simple dipole at 20 feet on 10m Have you tuned around to hear beacons in
    the beacon segment? (28.115 to 28.200) - they give you an idea when and where the band is open,
    but you do need to be able to copy CW to know what beacon you're hearing.

    aside from all of that, just wait for the next contest - if you hear nothing on 10m all day long during
    an HF band SSB or CW contest, then yes - you DO have something wrong.

    Because as we all know, 10-meters magically opens up for EVERY SINGLE CONTEST! :cool:

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
  6. K0RGR

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    All I'm hearing on 10 right now is a beacon from TX about 28.277 (USB dial freq.). I'm calling CQ on JT65HF, though. So far, no takers, but some days, when I throw out a CQ on this 'dead' band, I get people calling me from all over. One fairly recent morning, the band was wide open to Africa, but you'd never know it. 10 and 6 are both open a lot more than we realize. Eskip season should be upon us very soon, so frequent openings will happen - seems kind of odd since they're predicting blizzard like conditions here for tonight!
     
  7. KB3ZGV

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    I hear plenty of CW on 10, but very little phone activity. Every once in awhile it seems to open up and it's hopping, but not very often.
     
  8. K2WH

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    For a test of your receiver and antenna system, try to listen to the 10 meter repeater frequencies. They are usually active. FM of course if your rig has that mode. Just let your rig sit on one of the 3 available frequencies.

    K2WH
     
  9. K8JD

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    The activity on 10M is mostly SSB all clumped right on 28.400. Yesterday afternoon there were 3 or 4 loud stations from S America or the Caribbean all piled up there.
    The FM sometimes comes thru, on; 29.600 simplex and repeaters above and below in 20 kHz steps from 29.520 to 29.680. There is a little CW around 28.020-28.050, and, of course, illegal CB type operation on LSB from 28.000 to 28.300.
    At night, an hour after local sunset the band goes pretty dead.
    I started operating on 10M in the late 60s and have worked some of my best DX on that band during the last three sunspot cycle peaks.
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2013
  10. KC9UDX

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    Almost every day I hear a lot of CW on the bottom of the band where my antenna doesn't work so well, SSB all over the voice portion of the band, and at least one repeater in the FM portion. I never hear any AM unless I call CQ and someone local comes back.

    OP: Have you ever called CQ on 10?
     
  11. KC8VWM

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    ...No sale. :confused:
     
  12. KJ3N

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    You've never heard anything on 10m in 37+ years? That's got to be an antenna problem.

    10m PH 03/03/12 1353 ZZ2T
    10m PH 03/03/12 1358 PJ2T
    10m PH 03/03/12 1359 FM/F6AUS
    10m PH 03/03/12 1400 V26M
    10m PH 03/03/12 1412 9Y4W
    10m PH 03/03/12 1413 CW5W
    10m PH 03/03/12 1416 P40V
    10m PH 03/03/12 1417 8P6ER
    10m PH 03/03/12 1421 TO11A
    10m PH 03/03/12 1423 CE2LS
    10m PH 03/03/12 1426 TI5N
    10m PH 03/03/12 1549 LU5FC
    10m PH 03/03/12 1551 NP4ZB
    10m PH 03/03/12 1612 J7Y
    10m PH 03/03/12 1624 HQ2GL
    10m PH 03/03/12 1941 KH7X
    10m PH 03/04/12 1512 J88DR
    10m PH 03/04/12 1609 XE1BY

    10m PH 10/27/12 1146 GJ2A
    10m PH 10/27/12 1149 SM5IMO
    10m PH 10/27/12 1256 CT5KAO
    10m PH 10/27/12 1258 DF9ZP
    10m PH 10/27/12 1259 IK1TAZ
    10m PH 10/27/12 1301 OH8NC
    10m PH 10/27/12 1304 E73M
    10m PH 10/27/12 1306 S58N
    10m PH 10/27/12 1317 OH0X
    10m PH 10/27/12 1320 GZ5Y
    10m PH 10/27/12 1331 M2H
    10m PH 10/27/12 1333 GS6NX
    10m PH 10/27/12 1342 HQ2L
    10m PH 10/27/12 1427 LX7I
    10m PH 10/27/12 1429 4O3A
    10m PH 10/27/12 1437 A73A
    10m PH 10/27/12 1957 D4C
    10m PH 10/27/12 2002 PX5E
    10m PH 10/27/12 2003 XE3N
    10m PH 10/27/12 2008 KL7KY
    10m PH 10/28/12 1151 EA8MT
    10m PH 10/28/12 1226 RT7T
    10m PH 10/28/12 1248 Z38N
    10m PH 10/28/12 1300 9K2HN
    10m PH 10/28/12 1303 A65BB
    10m PH 10/28/12 1307 P33W
    10m PH 10/28/12 1312 SV5BYR
    10m PH 10/28/12 1420 TK9R
    10m PH 10/28/12 1438 HZ1BL
    10m PH 10/28/12 1449 EI9E
    10m PH 10/28/12 1455 GT8IOM
    10m PH 10/28/12 1543 J42T
    10m PH 10/28/12 2107 KG6DX


    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-11-17 2125 KS3D 0001 A 91 DE K7KU
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-11-17 2130 KS3D 0002 A 91 DE VE5UF
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-11-17 2133 KS3D 0003 A 91 DE K0HS
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-11-17 2136 KS3D 0004 A 91 DE KL2HD
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-11-17 2141 KS3D 0005 A 91 DE KH7Y

    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-11-17 2148 KS3D 0006 A 91 DE WF4U
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-11-17 2159 KS3D 0007 A 91 DE KQ0C
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-11-17 2205 KS3D 0008 A 91 DE AA5B


    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-08 1848 KS3D 59 DE K0IP
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-08 1849 KS3D 59 DE K3EST
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-08 1918 KS3D 59 DE WC6H
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-08 2000 KS3D 59 DE W7WW
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-08 2002 KS3D 59 DE KS3F
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-08 2010 KS3D 59 DE KI6VC
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 0259 KS3D 59 DE K0HA
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 0302 KS3D 59 DE N0XR
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1437 KS3D 59 DE YN5ZO
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1440 KS3D 59 DE YV8AD
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1451 KS3D 59 DE EA8MT
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1515 KS3D 59 DE YY4DNN
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1525 KS3D 59 DE EA8AH
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1526 KS3D 59 DE XE1B
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1557 KS3D 59 DE D4C
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1559 KS3D 59 DE HQ2ALJ
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1605 KS3D 59 DE WA8UEG
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1606 KS3D 59 DE K3ATO
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1608 KS3D 59 DE PP5JD
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1610 KS3D 59 DE TI5/N2BA
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1612 KS3D 59 DE EA8DO
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1621 KS3D 59 DE LS6VI
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1627 KS3D 59 DE XE1HG
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1634 KS3D 59 DE XE1GRR
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1636 KS3D 59 DE XE2AA
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1642 KS3D 59 DE XE2AU
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1645 KS3D 59 DE XE1FRF
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1648 KS3D 59 DE CX5BW
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1723 KS3D 59 DE AA6PW
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1724 KS3D 59 DE N6HD
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1729 KS3D 59 DE ED1B
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1730 KS3D 59 DE KF7LUA
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1739 KS3D 59 DE W6TA
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1740 KS3D 59 DE TM6M
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1742 KS3D 59 DE EA1DR
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1744 KS3D 59 DE NX6T
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1745 KS3D 59 DE VA6NJK
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1747 KS3D 59 DE W7RN
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1748 KS3D 59 DE KB6UNC
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1750 KS3D 59 DE N8OO
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1800 KS3D 59 DE K7RI
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1802 KS3D 59 DE W7EB
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1809 KS3D 59 DE K7RL
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1811 KS3D 59 DE CR6K
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1814 KS3D 59 DE VA7BEC
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1815 KS3D 59 DE KI7M
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1817 KS3D 59 DE EA5DY
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1818 KS3D 59 DE N7WR
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1820 KS3D 59 DE N7UQ
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1823 KS3D 59 DE KA6BIM/7
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1825 KS3D 59 DE W2RD
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1829 KS3D 59 DE N7LOX
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1836 KS3D 59 DE VA7DZ
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1840 KS3D 59 DE XE1OGG
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1843 KS3D 59 DE LU7FTS
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1846 KS3D 59 DE LU3DK
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1856 KS3D 59 DE LU8EOT
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1858 KS3D 59 DE W6YX
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1901 KS3D 59 DE LU5CAB
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1903 KS3D 59 DE PY3CM
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1905 KS3D 59 DE P40CX
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1910 KS3D 59 DE LQ7E
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 1918 KS3D 59 DE 8P2K
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2147 KS3D 59 DE LU1DBQ
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2157 KS3D 59 DE LR2F
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2201 KS3D 59 DE N6KP
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2202 KS3D 59 DE W6SX
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2203 KS3D 59 DE N6ZFO
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2203 KS3D 59 DE K6HNZ
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2209 KS3D 59 DE KI6RRN
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2211 KS3D 59 DE AD6NR
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2217 KS3D 59 DE K4XS
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2219 KS3D 59 DE K6LL
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2221 KS3D 59 DE N6JW
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2226 KS3D 59 DE W4SVO
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2238 KS3D 59 DE CW5W
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2300 KS3D 59 DE LU1UM
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2302 KS3D 59 DE NX0X
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2309 KS3D 59 DE WO4DX
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2310 KS3D 59 DE LP1H
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2313 KS3D 59 DE W4GKF
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2315 KS3D 59 DE K4AAK
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2318 KS3D 59 DE KC4HW
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2320 KS3D 59 DE WB9PUB
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2321 KS3D 59 DE WR9D
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2322 KS3D 59 DE K0TT
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2328 KS3D 59 DE N9NUQ
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2329 KS3D 59 DE N2BJ
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2330 KS3D 59 DE K3GNC
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2332 KS3D 59 DE N2NC
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2333 KS3D 59 DE K1KNQ
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2335 KS3D 59 DE K0DAS
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2341 KS3D 59 DE WB9Z
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2343 KS3D 59 DE W4UAL
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2346 KS3D 59 DE AG5Z
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2348 KS3D 59 DE W0JPL
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2350 KS3D 59 DE KD5J
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2352 KS3D 59 DE WA5OYU
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2354 KS3D 59 DE K5KG
    QSO: 28000 PH 2012-12-09 2357 KS3D 59 DE K4NV


    10m PH 01/19/13 1938 NP4Z
    10m PH 01/19/13 1939 WA7NB
    10m PH 01/19/13 1940 VE6AO
    10m PH 01/19/13 1945 W7ZRC
    10m PH 01/19/13 1950 W7DXX
    10m PH 01/19/13 1954 PJ2/K8ND
    10m PH 01/19/13 2003 K7RI


    10m PH 03/02/13 1311 IR8C
    10m PH 03/02/13 1315 TO22C
    10m PH 03/02/13 1319 CR1Z
    10m PH 03/02/13 1320 FM5BH
    10m PH 03/02/13 1323 LZ9W
    10m PH 03/02/13 1325 XQ1KZ
    10m PH 03/02/13 1326 WP2XX
    10m PH 03/02/13 1328 P49Y
    10m PH 03/02/13 1328 6V7S
    10m PH 03/02/13 1330 PJ4G
    10m PH 03/02/13 1332 VP2V/KE2VB
    10m PH 03/02/13 1336 V26M
    10m PH 03/02/13 1338 YW2LV
    10m PH 03/02/13 1342 KP4BZ
    10m PH 03/02/13 1343 HK1NA
    10m PH 03/02/13 1345 CR2X
    10m PH 03/02/13 1347 KP2M
    10m PH 03/02/13 1501 9A1A
    10m PH 03/02/13 1506 8P5A
    10m PH 03/02/13 1508 DK1QH
    10m PH 03/02/13 1509 OE3K
    10m PH 03/02/13 1511 II2E
    10m PH 03/02/13 1513 J88DR
    10m PH 03/02/13 1514 PJ2T
    10m PH 03/02/13 1516 E7DX
    10m PH 03/02/13 1529 NP2N
    10m PH 03/02/13 1531 8P6EX
    10m PH 03/02/13 1533 HG7T
    10m PH 03/02/13 1536 HI3TT
    10m PH 03/02/13 2014 L73D
    10m PH 03/02/13 2029 XE7S
    10m PH 03/02/13 2031 EA8DO
    10m PH 03/02/13 2038 PW1A
    10m PH 03/02/13 2119 YN5Z

    Based on the above contest log extracts, I'd say you've got a serious problem on your hands.
     
  13. N9DSJ

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    "I Never ever Heard anything on 10 in all my years" ???


    No idea what you are "doing wrong"... suspect no antenna or you do not really listen much there..

    73,

    Bill N9DSJ
     
  14. KC9UDX

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    I must admit I never heard anything in all my years on 10 meters either up until the day I received my first 10 meter rig... In fact that very day I made my first contacts on 10.
     
  15. N9DSJ

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    You cheated, probably you even used an antenna!
     
  16. KC9UDX

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    Possibly... I know quite a few people that wouldn't consider 8' of speaker wire an antenna :eek:
     
  17. K4AX

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    I've always made it a habit of starting on ten or six when I get on the air for the day, and generally work my way down to 20 or 40 meters at some point. Regardless there is activity on ten meters all the time if the sun is out. Most of the time the signals are weak but they are there.
     
  18. N9DSJ

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    Even worse, near resonant....

    (Sorry, inside joke)
     
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