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First amateur radio in geosynchronous orbit

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by W0PV, Dec 24, 2015.

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  1. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

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  2. K0RGR

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    Hallelujah!
     
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  3. W7UUU

    W7UUU Director, QRZ Forums Lifetime Member 133 QRZ HQ Staff Life Member QRZ Page

    That's really cool! I don't know much about satellite amateur radio - but if it's always in one place, utterly reachable at any time, won't it likely be completely jammed up with all the US/Canada hams wanting to use what I'm sure will be just a handful of frequencies?

    Or am I not understanding how it will work...

    Either way, that's way cool news!

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
  4. W2ITG

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    Would've been nice to get the frequency of it!!!!!
     
  5. KA0HCP

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    Two ways to access the satellite are planned:

    -Direct: 5Ghz Uplink, 10Ghz Downlink
    -Gateway: Ground based stations will have input/output on traditional ham bands/modes and handle interface with satellite.

    -Estimated launch late 2016 or 2017

    The Phase 4b team is working with commercial vendors to have TX/RX kits available for homebrewers. Target price about $1,000. Present Dish/DirectTV satellite dishes are suitable for use on both bands. Uplink will require about 1 Watt at 5 Ghz.

    Links:
    -QRZed Satellite Forum
    https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/amsat-phase-iv-palomar-arc-presentation.501187/

    -Phase 4B Team is looking for interested hams in Southern California, Texas and Maryland to help develop and test the ground terminals, direct Tx/Rx and software.
    http://www.amsat.org/?p=4822

    "No Buck$, No Buck Rogers": Want more satellites? All it takes is money. Make a donation, please.
    http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=86

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    Last edited: Dec 24, 2015
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  6. KF7PCL

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    As I should have expected (2m/70cm and probably even 1.2ghz is too crowded for a satellite that covers that much area)

    But lots of hams do not have equipment that operates on this band
     
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  7. KA0HCP

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    The plan is to have ground terminals/gateways that will allow hams to access the satellite with ordinary ham gear on the typical bands. Others who want to build/buy direct 5/10Ghz terminals can do so.

    The Phase 4B satellite will be capable of handling over 1,000 QSO (theoretical) simultaneously; voice and data.
     
  8. W7UUU

    W7UUU Director, QRZ Forums Lifetime Member 133 QRZ HQ Staff Life Member QRZ Page

    Amazing stuff! I really think I'm going to have to look into building a direct link system.... that would be cool! And I'd sure need to learn a lot of new stuff, which is always a good thing :)

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
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  9. KA0HCP

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    I must emphasize: Go watch the Palo Alto Radio Club, presentation at the QRZed link above. It explains quite well the Phase 4B program.
     
  10. K0IP

    K0IP Ham Member QRZ Page

    All I want for Christmas it RS-10 back in the air, a great satellite.
    5 and 10 gHz , phooey. how about a linear transponder 1296 up 430 down. about 1 mHz wide.
     
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  11. KA0HCP

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    1. $ure, $tart the donation$
    2. That orbit opportunity isn't available, and those frequencies aren't practical on this flight opportunity.

    Anything else impossible you want to grump about? ;)
     
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  12. K0IP

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    Not really, I'll keep my money in my pocket, and hold my breath. 73
     
  13. KA0HCP

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    Well, Merry Christmas anyhow! bill
     
  14. N0DZQ

    N0DZQ Ham Member QRZ Page

    At a target price of a $1000, one will not have to worry about the 1000 simultanious QSOs. What a joke. How bout creating something that the average Joe can use without breaking the bank? Damn elitists!!!!!!
     
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  15. WB2VUO

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    Elitists? Hardly... Have you looked at the going price of the "entry-level" HF stations, or the DC-Light all-mode rigs like the FT-991 or TS-2000? Sorry, but $1,000 is chump change. We have new Techs around here that have that much in a VHF/UHF mobile with a 10 meter monobander beside it.

    Yes, there are hams who made the grade for under $200. IF you are careful, the first station can be acquired for under $100, and I am not talking a Amazon-Special dual-band HT. USed gear? $50 - $10,000, how much do you want to spend?

    Looking at my modest station here, all used gear, I have about $1,600 invested over the last 10 years. QRP HF/VHF/UHF (FT-817nd); 100 watt HF/6M / 50Watt 2M/ 20 Watt UHF (FT-857D) and an HF/6 Meter mobile (Alinco DX-70T) All of them came of email lists or Craigslist. If Phase 4 goes up as scheduled, yes, I will spend a Kilobuck for a ground station. Cheap at any price.

    I am really sorry that your $150 Heathkit Novice station is no longer available, but the proportional price of today's ham gear is the lowest I have seen in 50 years on the air.

    de WB2VUO
     
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