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WN9ZWC
07-09-2006, 04:36 PM
Greetings Fellow Shortwave Listeners, some years ago, after listening to repeated commericials on Art Bell's late night talk show, Coast To Coast. I purchased the Baygen Freeplay Wind-up Radio.

I got plenty of good service from the Freeplay, and mine even came with an LED light that plugged into the back of the radio. As simple as it may have been, I fell in love with my Freeplay after experiencing a couple of serious power outages, due to severe weather.

A couple of weeks ago, I went to wind up my free play, and as I let the crank go, the radios crank spun wildly and the crank assembly screamed as if it was going to explode. My Freeplay was most definetly malfunctioning, and was not getting any power to the radio. On the back of the Baygen Freeplay, there is a very clear message stamped into the plastic of the rear cover, which clearly states; "Warning, this radio should only be opened by an authorized repair dealer"!

So with that information, I contacted the dealer from where I had purchased the radio, which was CCrane Company. They advised me that Baygen had gone out of business and the original Freeplay was no longer supported. In fact the Freeplay name is still out there under the name of Freeplay Plus, but the parts are no longer compatible.

At this point, I figured the trash was the next stop for my old Freeplay. I literally had my hand on it, and I was heading for the trash, when I thought...oh what the heck, I'll open it and take a look, maybe it's something that I can fix.

Well sure enough, after opening the radio. I found that a simple drive belt, probably worth two cents, had slipped of a drive wheel. I reset the belt, closed the radio, and presto!The radio worked.

So I got thinking, perhaps I could start up a support center on the web for old Freeplay Radios, so...I did!

If anyone is interested in reading up on their Freeplay, you can visit my section, on the Northern Illinois Radio Portal at

NIRP (http://kb9wgv.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=freeplay&action=display&thread=1151565322)

I contacted CCrane, and they are sending me a users manual, and I should be able to post a schematic for the Freeplay soon.

I'm also interested in obtaining broken Freeplays for spare parts that I can store for folks who may need them. If anyone would like to donate older freeplay radios that are beyond repair, contact me off board.

Gene
KB9WGV

KC7JDS
07-12-2006, 05:37 PM
Good Luck. It sounds like a worthy adventure to keep a good product working, to keep the rest of us in contact with SWL in case of a disaster.

B Woodman
kc7jds

KD7ZOS
07-12-2006, 05:45 PM
Lead on fellow Ham! any idea why the company went outta business? Be looking for your next post on this radio! 73's Tom KD7ZOS

WN9ZWC
07-12-2006, 06:06 PM
Thanks for your support! Unfortunately, I have no idea why they went out of business. I managed to get a users manual for the Freeplay from CCrane, but there was not a schematic. I guess Baygen did not want anyone inside of the radio at all. So I guess my next step is draw one or photograph the inside of the radio.

KB9LEI
07-12-2006, 06:42 PM
The story I had always heard on the inventor of Baygen, was that he was on a missions trip to Africa and was astounded at the lack of radios in the villages, many of which do not have electricity and therefore, had little to no access to the "outside" world.

Being a tinkerer at heart, he develoved the clockwork spring mechanism to drive a little dynamo, hence powering a very efficient receiver. Helped that he put a solar cell on the top of most models.

Was a great idea. Sorry to hear it is now defunk.

WY3X
07-12-2006, 09:15 PM
Question about the operation of a Baygen- the wind-up mechanism of my radio is not smooth. It goes for a second, then slows. Then goes, then slows. It seems to run all the way until the spring is unwound, but shouldn't the mechanism operate smoothly and continuously? I thought about opening it and oiling the spring and greasing the gears, but I'm not sure that's the correct thing to do. Thoughts? Thanks, -KR4WM

N2RJ
07-12-2006, 09:36 PM
I've seen some of these other wind up radios. I think some are even sold in costco. They are not like the original freeplay where it would store energy in a spring. Instead they make you crank for a minute which stores the energy in a battery.

KQ6XA
07-12-2006, 09:46 PM
Yes, Baygen went out of business... but Freeplay is NOT out of business. Don't confuse the two, they are different companies.
In fact, Freeplay currently makes many many different types of hand-cranked radios, hand-cranked lights, and hand-crank chargers for batteries and cell phones. Some of the hand chargers are great for charging up ham gear, such as HTs. You can see a AM/FM/Shortwave crank radio and some crank charging products on the
CCRANE.COM Website (http://ccrane.com)
http://www.ccrane.com/images/medium/freeplay-plus-radio.jpg
.

WA4BRL
07-13-2006, 12:46 AM
No one (especially a ham) should fear opening an electrical or mechanical device to attempt a repair (warranty coverage excepted). #You did the right thing opening that sucker up and scoping it out. #It's amazing how often how often devices go dead for them most simple and basic reasons. #Simple fixes 9 out of 10 times.

By your description, I thought a drive spring had broken. #I've many times repaired the drive spring in a Victrola record player my sister owns. #Nothing to it once you learn how. #

Then I remembered that your radio utilizes a generator and stores the energy in the battery rather than in a spring. #Duh! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

WB4AEJ
07-13-2006, 12:52 AM
Sounds like we have a real ham here.

Good luck in your venture. Keep us apprised as to how well you are doing.

Regards,



Fred, WB4AEJ

WN9ZWC
07-13-2006, 01:02 AM
Quote[/b] (kr4wm @ July 12 2006,14:15)]Question about the operation of a Baygen- the wind-up mechanism of my radio is not smooth. It goes for a second, then slows. Then goes, then slows. It seems to run all the way until the spring is unwound, but shouldn't the mechanism operate smoothly and continuously? I thought about opening it and oiling the spring and greasing the gears, but I'm not sure that's the correct thing to do. Thoughts? Thanks, -KR4WM
Good question, my Freeplay seems to run pretty smoothly,but it slows just so slightly during the unwinding process. But if you decide to open your up, heres what I found out.

The main spring and gear box are contained in two different compartments, side by side in a large oval plastic housing. Do be careful when handling the spring, as you know it can be under a lot of tension. But I did'nt have a tough time myself keeping the spring contained when I was working on the radio.

The main spring is connected to a simple shaft that transits to the gear box, which contains, a large gear that drives a smaller gear and drive wheel attached to a simple rubber belt that drives the generator. The gear most definetly was well oiled.

The hardest part on my radio was remounting the belt to the generator and closing up the housing.

N9KPN
07-13-2006, 04:26 AM
Quote[/b] (wa4brl @ July 12 2006,18:46)]No one (especially a ham) should fear opening an electrical or mechanical device to attempt a repair (warranty coverage excepted). #You did the right thing opening that sucker up and scoping it out. #It's amazing how often how often devices go dead for them most simple and basic reasons. #Simple fixes 9 out of 10 times.

By your description, I thought a drive spring had broken. #I've many times repaired the drive spring in a Victrola record player my sister owns. #Nothing to it once you learn how. #

Then I remembered that your radio utilizes a generator and stores the energy in the battery rather than in a spring. #Duh! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

This is more of a CYA on Baygen's part. #The spring is the "danger" here and is quite powerful. #The Baygens I have use a motor, specifically a portable Tape/CD motor in reverse as a generator. #Neither use batteries and must have the motor spin to work. The crank transfers a flat leaf spring from one spool to another. This spring is then unwound via gear train to a motor pressed into service as a generator. In the newer versions there is that pesky belt.

But I'm curious. #Is Baygen out of business or are they simply operating under the name FREEPLAY? #The Freeplay company appears to still be in business and is making products with other companies such as Motorola (The FREECHARGE Mobile cell charger) and a number of different types of flashlights from varying partners, as well as radios.

(BTW I bought my radios off eBay for a fraction of the C.Crane cost.)

KJ8O
07-13-2006, 04:32 AM
I had an expensive turntable from the 1970's that quit working one day. Opened it up and it was just a rubber belt that cost me $7 to replace. I was very lucky to find the parts.

I guess it just runs in our blood. Great job!

KG6YTZ
07-13-2006, 04:59 AM
I did more than my share of "exploratory dsassemblies" in my youth... Sometimes I even got the gizmoids put back together in working condition. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

WN9ZWC
07-13-2006, 02:04 PM
Quote[/b] (n9kpn @ July 12 2006,21:26)]
Quote[/b] (wa4brl @ July 12 2006,18:46)]No one (especially a ham) should fear opening an electrical or mechanical device to attempt a repair (warranty coverage excepted). #You did the right thing opening that sucker up and scoping it out. #It's amazing how often how often devices go dead for them most simple and basic reasons. #Simple fixes 9 out of 10 times.

By your description, I thought a drive spring had broken. #I've many times repaired the drive spring in a Victrola record player my sister owns. #Nothing to it once you learn how. #

Then I remembered that your radio utilizes a generator and stores the energy in the battery rather than in a spring. #Duh! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

This is more of a CYA on Baygen's part. #The spring is the "danger" here and is quite powerful. #The Baygens I have use a motor, specifically a portable Tape/CD motor in reverse as a generator. #Neither use batteries and must have the motor spin to work. #The crank transfers a flat leaf spring from one spool to another. #This spring is then unwound via gear train to a motor pressed into service as a generator. #In the newer versions there is that pesky belt.

But I'm curious. #Is Baygen out of business or are they simply operating under the name FREEPLAY? #The Freeplay company appears to still be in business and is making products with other companies such as Motorola (The FREECHARGE Mobile cell charger) and a number of different types of flashlights from varying partners, as well as radios.

(BTW I bought my radios off eBay for a fraction of the C.Crane cost.)
According to way CCRANE told me, they had gone out of business. In todays world that means more than one thing. Going out of business can mean, closed the doors, sold the patent, sold the business etc etc.

The main thrust of my article was to gather information and parts on the old Baygens to keep them running. As I had seen done by other HAM clubs,such as HAMs who collect Collins, Hallicrafters, Swan and other radios. I guess I view the old Baygen Freeplay as another boat anchor of our time period! I love the old table tops, and would like to see them around for a few more years.

But the like I said (and another poster said), the Freeplay name is still out there under "Freeplay Plus", still sold by CCrane.

W0UHF
07-13-2006, 03:22 PM
I did a little googling and found the following:

About the inventor Trevor Baylis and his company:
http://www.trevorbaylisbrands.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Baylis
http://windupradio.com/trevor.htm

Here's an interesting invterview with him at:
http://www.startups.co.uk/YYo3OTw.html

...an excerpt from it below:

"You were involved in a dispute over money with the South African company that manufactured and sold the radio. What went wrong?

I thought I could trust them. You do so much on the basis of a handshake – ‘Don’t worry Trev, we’ll look after you’.

All I got out of those sharks was about £400,000. They turned me over like a proverbial turkey. We settled a deal for about £1.3 million, but I thought they were a decent crowd so I invested £500,000 in the company and spread the balance over five years, so that I had an income.

After two years, they stopped paying me.

What would you have done differently?

I would’ve had a team of really good corporate lawyers on my side, so that when something came through the post I could run it past them. What I try to do now is to make sure that any other inventor with a patent that is infringed has their day in court. "
************************************************** **
Freeplay Energery Plc. is still in business:

Freeplay Energy Plc .
info@freeplayenergy.com
http://www.freeplayenergy.com

Physical Address:
56 - 58 Conduit Street
London
W1S 2YZ
United Kingdom
Tel: +44 20 7851 2630
Fax: +44 20 7851 2700

Unit 12, M5 Business Park
Black River Parkway
Maitland
Cape Town
South Africa
Tel: +27 21 514 3800
Fax: +27 21 514 3900

Postal Address:
P.O. Box 36709
Chempet
7442
Cape Town
South Africa

Also the Freeplay Foundation:
http://www.freeplayfoundation.org/

VE3LXL
07-13-2006, 03:45 PM
Quote[/b] (wa4brl @ July 12 2006,19:46)]No one (especially a ham) should fear opening an electrical or mechanical device to attempt a repair (warranty coverage excepted). You did the right thing opening that sucker up and scoping it out. It's amazing how often how often devices go dead for them most simple and basic reasons. Simple fixes 9 out of 10 times.

I agree completely, with the caution that we should always remember to take the appropriate safety precautions - unplug the device from the AC main, ground it or yourself if necessary, wear safety glasses, pay attention to any safety warnings printed on the device, etc.

2E0GYD
07-13-2006, 05:09 PM
hi all,
i like those radio's too, i aquired a ranger freeplay radio over 2 years ago (second hand, but looks new) and uses a hand crank (i think its motor to battery - not spring), a solar pannel, and a 6V psu from the mains. Covers FM and MW

a year ago my brother droped it and the sound was tinny, so i replaced it with another speaker. It worked but the speaker was the wrong impeadance, so it was quiter, anyway a few weeks ago i decided to replace the 64 ohm speaker with an 8 ohm speaker, now its a little louder.

I like the radio, and they should bring out a scanner/transciever that can be hand cranked!

73 de Rick 2E0GYD

KC4HGH
07-13-2006, 05:43 PM
Great going, Gene! I purchased a new (old model) Freeplay at Big Lots a few years ago for $29.95- both my wife & I like the radio, with it's great audio and simple service. It's an early model, no battery, crank only, but with a 3 VDC jack on the back. I DID open the critter and installed a wire from the antenna connection to a female RCA jack on the back for a longwire for weak signals, but so far haven't needed it!

Wished I'd bought one or two more, living in the Hurricane Alley like we do....

Please keep us informed!

AA4BJ
07-15-2006, 02:00 AM
Bob Crane still lists the Freeplay Plus as in stock for $89.95 marked down from $109.95. But when the Freeplay is no longer availabale Eton has a decent range of wind ups. I have the FR-300. No shortwave but AM/FM/WX and local TV coverage. Deutsche-Welle or the BBC is probably the last thing I need during a hurricane. Only about 50 bucks and it's good for what it's supposed to do.

KF0RT
07-15-2006, 10:51 AM
Freeplay isn't the only company that makes hand-crank radios.

Eton / Grundig (http://www.amazon.com/s/102-7504401-8093746?ie=UTF8&search-alias=electronics-aps&field-brandtextbin=Eton)
Kaito (http://www.ambientweather.com/kakahacrra.html)
Life+Gear (http://www.firststreetonline.com/product.jsp?id=42539&promotion=86072)
Dynamo (http://stuffonline.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=si-r-3582&Category_Code=survi&Store_Code=Stuff&Affiliate=google)
Info Mate (http://www.survivalunlimited.com/radios/infomateanalog.htm)

73, Rob

KQ6XA
07-16-2006, 12:56 AM
Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ July 15 2006,03:51)]Freeplay isn't the only company that makes hand-crank radios.
73, Rob
Hi Rob,

Although you can buy other wind-up radios, the patented Freeplay hand crank radios have the most efficient dynamo of anything else on the market.

Freeplay radios play more than twice as long for the same cranking effort. The taiko/eton cheapo flimsy knockoff radios take a heck of a lot more cranking to make them run. If you have ever tried them side-by-side, as I have, you can easily see the difference between the well-made sturdy Freeplay Plus (http://www.ccrane.com/radios/wind-up-emergency-radios/freeplay-plus-radio.aspx) radio and the fake imitators. Also, when it comes to using the built-in emergency hand crank LED lighting, you will certainly see a huge difference in the less times you need to crank a Freeplay.
.Freeplay Plus [IMG]http://www.ccrane.com/images....MG] (http://www.ccrane.com/radios/wind-up-emergency-radios/freeplay-plus-radio.aspx)

N2NH
07-16-2006, 01:05 AM
While my Kaito KA-007 isn't quite the radio the Freeplay is, it did work well during the 8/14/03 blackout here. I had one at home and another at work. 10 Bands. Crank, solar cell, batteries, AC adapter and DC adapter. Not bad for $14.95. It's a bit higher now, but still a good bang for the buck.

* Crank Linky * (http://www.ambientweather.com/kakahacrsoam.html)

N2MMM
07-16-2006, 07:14 PM
I like my Grundig Emergency Radio.

KU2US
07-17-2006, 01:38 AM
I bought a Baygen Freeplay Radio when they first came out some years ago. I paid $99.00 US..I live in an area of NY state where we have frequent power outages, just a thunder storm will turn off the lights. I have used the Freeplay frequently, goes good next to a burning candle..and it still looks and works like the day I bought it. This is the AM/FM/SW band model..I always thought they were first introduced and sold in South Africa? Anyone know for sure?. It cranks up about 60 turns and runs for about 30-45 minutes until another crank-up is needed, and the spring still runs smooth. Keep these radios working, the originals may be collectors items soon.

KU2US
07-17-2006, 02:17 AM
A FOLLOW-UP: My original BayGen does NOT have a jack for a SW external antenna. Here is what I do. The whip antenna recieves for both FM and SW. If you are a Ham Radio Op, Take the coax from your external antenna, any antenna, and place an alligator clip on the center post of the PL-259, make sure the alligator clip does NOT touch the outer grounded portion of the PL-259. Attach and run a wire with another alligator clip at the opposite end to the whip antenna of the BayGen. Works GREAT.. You can do the same with just a long piece of insulated wire(THE LONGER THE BETTER) outside. SW reception is greatly amplified as well as FM..Just a thought..By the way, My Baygen WAS manufactured in South Africa. It is #4973..

KF4VGX
07-17-2006, 03:45 AM
Every year , hurricane somewhere on the east coast . And I'm thinking, I need one of those .

I think I'll do a bit of research and see what all is available .
BayGen actually doesn't sound like to bad a radio .

But if it breaks , you betcha .I'll creak it open and eagerly search out the problem.





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N9ADJ
07-17-2006, 04:19 AM
I'm glad to see that some people are still repairing their own equipment. Whenever I see a statement like: "Warning, this radio should only be opened by an authorized repair dealer," I never let that stop me. I figure if I paid for it, it's mine! And I'll tear it apart and fix it myself. Maybe the manufactures should put a warning on their radios such as: "Warning, this radio should only be opened by an authorized repair dealer or a ham that's got the guts to fix it himself!" I know we live in a "throw away society," but today's ham should not be afraid to fix his or her own equipment. Not repairing your own radio is no fun at all and it costs you money! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

W4CBJ
07-17-2006, 06:01 AM
In case you may be interested, I purchased a small hand cranked AM/FM radio made in China from Walgreen Drug Store for ten bucks. it works great ! Very sensitive on both bands. Can also use two AA batteries to power it. Has built-in LED light and siren. Has red led while cranking and a "full" indicator. Playing time much extended when usind stereo headphones. If you want more info, make and model, please advise. Joe W4CBJ.

WN9ZWC
07-17-2006, 01:41 PM
Quote[/b] (KU2US @ July 16 2006,19:17)]A FOLLOW-UP: My original BayGen does NOT have a jack for a SW external antenna. Here is what I do. The whip antenna recieves for both FM and SW. If you are a Ham Radio Op, Take the coax from your external antenna, any antenna, and place an alligator clip on the center post of the PL-259, make sure the alligator clip does NOT touch the outer grounded portion of the PL-259. Attach and run a wire with another alligator clip at the opposite end to the whip antenna of the BayGen. Works GREAT.. You can do the same with just a long piece of insulated wire(THE LONGER THE BETTER) outside. SW reception is greatly amplified as well as FM..Just a thought..By the way, My Baygen WAS manufactured in South Africa. It is #4973..
Thats a great (and simple) mod! the other thing I would like to do is out a head phone jack on mine, I'm just not sure wear I would link it to in the audio circut. By the way, CCrane sent me the manual for the Freeplay, and there was not a schematic!

KC0YBG
07-18-2006, 08:51 PM
It amazes me how people have a device that just needs a simple repair job and they just throw it away without any thought to at least try. Good to know that people like you take the time to make the attempt.

NF0A
07-18-2006, 09:53 PM
Quote[/b] (kb9wgv @ July 09 2006,09:36)]Greetings Fellow Shortwave Listeners, some years ago, after listening to repeated commericials on Art Bell's late night talk show, Coast To Coast. I purchased the Baygen Freeplay Wind-up Radio.

I got plenty of good service from the Freeplay, and mine even came with an LED light that plugged into the back of the radio. As simple as it may have been, I fell in love with my Freeplay after experiencing a couple of serious power outages, due to severe weather.

A couple of weeks ago, I went to wind up my free play, and as I let the crank go, the radios crank spun wildly and the crank assembly screamed as if it was going to explode. My Freeplay was most definetly malfunctioning, and was not getting any power to the radio. On the back of the Baygen Freeplay, there is a very clear message stamped into the plastic of the rear cover, which clearly states; "Warning, this radio should only be opened by an authorized repair dealer"!

So with that information, I contacted the dealer from where I had purchased the radio, which was CCrane Company. They advised me that Baygen had gone out of business and the original Freeplay was no longer supported. In fact the Freeplay name is still out there under the name of Freeplay Plus, but the parts are no longer compatible.

At this point, I figured the trash was the next stop for my old Freeplay. I literally had my hand on it, and I was heading for the trash, when I thought...oh what the heck, I'll open it and take a look, maybe it's something that I can fix.

Well sure enough, after opening the radio. I found that a simple drive belt, probably worth two cents, had slipped of a drive wheel. I reset the belt, closed the radio, and presto!The radio worked.

So I got thinking, perhaps I could start up a support center on the web for old Freeplay Radios, so...I did!

If anyone is interested in reading up on their Freeplay, you can visit my section, on the Northern Illinois Radio Portal at

NIRP (http://kb9wgv.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=freeplay&action=display&thread=1151565322)

I contacted CCrane, and they are sending me a users manual, and I should be able to post a schematic for the Freeplay soon.

I'm also interested in obtaining broken Freeplays for spare parts that I can store for folks who may need them. If anyone would like to donate older freeplay radios that are beyond repair, contact me off board.

Gene
KB9WGV
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif That is very good and glad you are doing this.
Good fortune and have fun!

WA4GCH
07-21-2006, 10:45 AM
REPAIR A RADIO ?

What a intresting idea ........ http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

KC6TGS
07-22-2006, 12:09 AM
Hi QRZ,

Baygen changed their name to Freeplay many years ago. Freeplay is boldly dedicated to making the finest wind-up radios manufactured today. The original idea was tremendous and now has had many good competitors. Freeplay is now branching into other areas such as their well Weza foot powered generator.

I am sorry for the misinformation about Baygen relayed by one of my crew. The correct information has now been distributed. Thanks to everyone for straitening it out

Thanks,
Bob Crane
C. Crane Company

WA7VTD
07-22-2006, 08:48 PM
Juat a word of caution:

Use extreme care when opening up Freeplay device cases. If the spring is tensioned and flies loose, a very, VERY nasty laceration can result.

Way to go starting a support site for older Freeplay devices. I own a number of Freeplay devices and love 'em.

73,

Kevin WA7VTD

WN9ZWC
07-28-2006, 03:09 AM
Quote[/b] (KC6TGS @ July 21 2006,17:09)]Hi QRZ,

Baygen changed their name to Freeplay many years ago. Freeplay is boldly dedicated to making the finest wind-up radios manufactured today. The original idea was tremendous and now has had many good competitors. Freeplay is now branching into other areas such as their well Weza foot powered generator.

I am sorry for the misinformation about Baygen relayed by one of my crew. The correct information has now been distributed. Thanks to everyone for straitening it out

Thanks,
Bob Crane
C. Crane Company
Bob,
Thanks for contributing to the conversation. As I said in my first post, the company still exists under Freeplay. What I was told that the older original Byagen Freeplays radios were no longer supported due to Baygen going out of business. My intensions were to put some information out there to assist other Baygen owners with repairs and other technical information about the radio.

W8NSI
08-04-2006, 02:54 AM
My FreePlay radio (no label anywhere on it saying BayGen) looks like thos pictured elsewhere here but mine only covers AM and FM. It does have the solar cell on it.

My FreePlay was bought in 1999 as my gesture toward preparedness for the Y2K madness when the world was supposed to grind to a halt. It didn't and I still love my crankup radio.Someone mentioned how it seemed to slow down while unwinding. Mine does too. It doesn't seem to have any affect on the playability of the radio.

73 de w8nsi jim
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testar
10-30-2010, 08:42 PM
thanks for the advice! Freeplay fixed - as member said put belt drive back on!
Grateful Uk London:)

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