People that yell or tak to close to the mic

[VE7NOT]

I remember back when there were alot of cbers here wer had a kids channel 12-20 years and used to have the 'swallowing mic' contest.. who could be loudest.. I simply had a power mike but I never told them. No part of my lips touched the mike. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Now on 2m it was funny i heard power mikes on there 20KHz down. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif . But mostly the worst was older guys thinking that taking feet away from a mic is fine. Well external speaker... volume topped I stil had trouble (hard of hearing I am)

So what's the in between. I descovered it on 80m. On guy on there pegs my meter with his full wave loop and 2500 watts. my yells into an amplified mic I can tell. He will blow me out of my chair if the volume is turned up since hes only 10 miles away as the crow flies. Although... he does great dx on 80m... usualy first heard http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

So between the guys that yell into the mike or talk like they are in the other room is here actually any balance?.. hate to say the answer.. only two places
One is 20m dxers

Two is sadly 11m truckers. who rarely run power mikes

The have the same audio level on my ts 680.. both are loud and clear and not over modulated or need the af gain turned down.

The 20m dxers I have started to ignore.. they want 'points'... not ham radio.. sorry... the truckers I always ignore unless they have info for me.

So what is going on.. do hams need to run power mikes on 2m?... I never have.. do they need to stand 100' from the mike... no... what is wrong with people? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[n0iu]

Just another reason I prefer CW!

[KC2ESD]

They are called "Lids"

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ June 21 2006,02:14)]They are called "Lids"
What he said.

[vk4xjb]

Looks like time to grumble about those that run so much audio gain that their background noise is at the same level as their voice peaks. A really simple way of upsetting then and starting an argument is commenting how bad their audio sounds.

Was listening to a 2m fm simplex frequency recently. The person in question had lined up someone to give audio reports back to him. Initially this person had good audio with a non amplified mic. He then connected an amplied mic. It sounded horrible, breath noises, background noise loud enough to make it hard to understand what he was saying and so on.

The second person gave truthfull audio reports. It did not go well with the person trying the amplified mic getting quite annoyed with receiving bad reports and refusing the believe what was being said.

My best is still the other person getting annoyed and finishing the contact and all I did was try telling him he had a problem with his audio.

[VE1IDX]

I was listening to a station the other night bragging about his 6 element 20m monobander and his Alpha amp at 1500 watts and his audio processor feeding his FT-1000MP blah,blah,blah and everytime he paused to take a breath the blower noise from the amp kept the S-meter sitting at 10 over 9,the same as his voice was.You could still hear it in the background while he was talking.Yeah you guessed.He started to crap on me for daring to mention he had too much background audio.He had been doing this for years and he knew what he was doing etc. etc.I just politely told him that my 22 years as a commercial broadcast engineer taught me to NEVER put a signal like that on the air,broadcast band or amateur band and then left.LID is the proper term for these guys.I have heard a few exCB'ers starting to run power microphones on their 2m gear.They like bragging rights about who is the loudest,after all the loudest signal is the best signal isn't it? Forget that they are 20 KHz wide and sound like crap on the repeater.Those guys are beyond lids.They are 2m CB'ers. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[WA9SVD]

Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ June 21 2006,02:14)]They are called "Lids"
Not only that, but they are poor operators!

But a station only a few miles away from you who is running a legel limit amp is going to sound LOUD no matter what. If he's not overmodulating or distorting, it's purely a matter of signal strength, exceeding the AGC range of YOUR radio, not necessarily him "yelling" into the microphone. If he's working other stations and DX and no one ever comments about "too much audio" that causes distortion, he's probably operating properly.

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif I heard a couple like that on 3.955 last weekend.

I tried to key up and advise them of the situation...but...every time I unkeyed some one else was talking...so...I stopped.

I DID hear some one else try to tell one of the 2 stations of his lousy audio, but he got ignored...

Some of these folks that have the lousy audio already know it and just DO IT to get attention...even bad attention is better than no attention.

[K4KWH]

My pet peeve is people who "whuff" and "chuff" into the mike on VHF FM. It simply tears me UP! I HATE that!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[wd0ct]

imo, guys on 20m are the worst about overdriven audio. legal limit, heil4, and processor equals baaaaad

[k9kxq]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 21 2006,08:54)]http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif I heard a couple like that on 3.955 last weekend.

I tried to key up and advise them of the situation...but...every time I unkeyed #some one else was talking...so...I stopped.

I DID hear some one else try to tell one of the 2 stations of his lousy audio, but he got ignored...

Some of these folks that have the lousy audio already know it and just DO IT to get attention...even bad attention is better than no attention.
Maybe the reason no one heard you and consider this as constructive criticism was your lousy audio, or weak signal, or lack of both or could it be those good folks were just ignoring you...

It really amazes me that some hams even ones who hold an extra license try to get attention with 50 watts, or even 100 with 20 over S9 static crashes in the middle of summer on 80 meters, don't take a rocket scientist to figure that out but then again you have those who are just thick...

kxq

[N2ACX]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I just wish the guys who by these nice proIII's etc would set the audio up correctly.Some sound as well as any professional broadcaster could set them up.But these few seem to think they sound like the "broadcasters gift to the gods', when their audio has this horrible 'barrel like" squirrelly sound. Try tuning off of them slightly, it's a joke. Most of the IC7000's I hear, sound awesome and I haven't heard a bad one yet.

Something like what VE1DX was saying about the Alpha amp multi-element monobander up in the clouds and then emits a signal that screams, "I am a LID, I don't read directions and I know I sound good"

I don't think these guys have any clue how badly they sound and along with that other comment on VHF/UHF, the constant 'puffing' into the mike with every word. That drives me crazy http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

The other type is the one who buys these radios like the FT9800, great radio, and some mediocre antenna, then runs 5 WATTS, no matter where they are,and chop in and out of the repeaters plus puff into the mic.

Oh well, thats a few off my chest for now http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Sure beats beeeching about politics.
73 N2ACX

[WA2ZDY]

There was a time when honest signal reports were desired and given. I always thought it would be better to have W2xxx tell me my signal was defective before FCC did.

Nowadays of course society has changed. Don't tell anyone something is wrong because you're likely to get shot for making such an insult. And on the air? How dare you accuse my wonderful radio of imperfection or accuse me of not knowing how to operate it. How DARE you!!!!! Don't you see I'm an extree class hambone so I KNOW how to work everything?

Dummies.

Never heard this stuff on CW.

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif kxq

an individual must do at least these things to reduce background noise ---

* turn all recieve pre- amplifiers to the OFF position

* turn rf gain down to maybe the 3 oclock or even the 12 oclock ( straight up ) position

* If you have a 20 db attenuator, turn it ON.

Most modern rigs have 2 or even all 3 of these features, and with an owners manual printed in ENGLISH, and perhaps even another language or two....but very few pictures ( perhaps that is the situation ).

No I do not really need a " signal strength meter " in my rigs, since I rarely use them. I just turn down the RF GAIN until I can still hear the stations , but very little ( if any ) back ground noise, static crashes, etc .

Your " selective hearing " has already gotten you worldwide attention, and thanks to your reply, it confirms that you DID read it.

Oh, by the way, technically speaking, the season of SUMMER just officially started on June 21, 2006 ( yesterday ) , so the " middle of summer " will not be for several weeks ahead in the calendar month of August, 2006.

...and the " 50 watts " is definately very unreliable...man I talked to the Los Angeles area of California on a home made di-pole on about 10 watts just a few weeks ago, so why transmit 50 watts to send a signal less than half the distance ? Remember the FCC rule that states " minimum power required " ?
On 2 meters some folks can talk on repeaters over 60 - 80 miles away on 5 watts or less....so why upgrade ?

Any how, thank you for letting me know that you are still out there...take care.

AI4EP (Robert)
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[N2ACX]

WA2ZDYQuote[/b] ]Nowadays of course society has changed. Don't tell anyone something is wrong because you're likely to get shot for making such an insult. And on the air? How dare you accuse my wonderful radio of imperfection or accuse me of not knowing how to operate it. How DARE you!!!!! Don't you see I'm an extree class hambone so I KNOW how to work everything?
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Quote[/b] ]I'm an extree class hambone so I KNOW how to work everything?

That is funny......LID = HAMBONE........ I wonder what the HAM to HAMBONE ratios are? LOLOLOL

73 N2ACX

[k9kxq]

ep, I'm not always on the air but that dosen't mean I'm not listening, if your station was heard on frequency those good folks would have returned your call that's a fact, but you have made a nusance of yourself so some may tend to ignore your station, not my falt OM...

As for the background noise, none here at my station, I have strived for that, as for some of the other stations on frequency, I'm sure they are working on a good clean signal with minimal or none...

Personally I dislike tryin to strain my ear to hear a low power station,especially in summer months, not being as technical as you be it first of, mid of, or the last of summer...

These good folks you like to piss and moan about all the time are getting a little disturbrd about it, is it no wonder why they tend to have selective hearing when it comes to your station calling on frequency, think about it Robert, would it not be better to be polite and not a prude...

73, kxq

[ab8ma]

Ever listen to the rare DX on 14.195 working split? Pileups from 14.200 up to 14.210, with the pre-requisit number of COPS on frequency 14.195?

With their VOX set to trip with every cough and other throat clearings?

[WA9SVD]

Quote[/b] (N2ACX @ June 22 2006,06:47)]WA2ZDYQuote[/b] ]Nowadays of course society has changed. Don't tell anyone something is wrong because you're likely to get shot for making such an insult. And on the air? How dare you accuse my wonderful radio of imperfection or accuse me of not knowing how to operate it. How DARE you!!!!! Don't you see I'm an extree class hambone so I KNOW how to work everything?
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Quote[/b] ]I'm an extree class hambone so I KNOW how to work everything?

That is funny......LID = HAMBONE........ I wonder what the HAM to HAMBONE ratios are? LOLOLOL

73 N2ACX
Isn't "Hambone" just CW shorthand for "HamBONEHEAD?"

Then the connection to LID woulf be understandable. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[WA9SVD]

A comment was made that a contact was made from California, to one of the Southern States using 10 Watts and a dipole, so "Why use 50 watts for half the distance?..."

Propagation is the answer.

CERTAINLY, FCC rules require that the minimum amount of power be used to make a contact, (a point of much contention to some.) But it's a gross misunderstanding (or lack of understanding) of propagation on HF bands to think there's always (if ever) a direct relationship between distance and power. Whhat may be possible with 10 Watts when the propagation supports contacts to a distant point may support only weak, or non-existent signal pathss in the areas in between, in which case even a legal limit signal may not get through to areas at shorter distances.

It's all a matter of understanding the mechanics (or rather physics) of the various atmospheric layers, and how they affect radio signals at various frequencies.

[ai4ep]

kxq..ok..so now explain how the other person who was attempting to tell folks about how lousy 2 stations sounded...tell me how he got ignored. I am SURE if yoou do not think of a reason, that some one will PM you with one.

YOU are the one that originally mentioned the noise ( go back and re-read your own words ) ...not I.

In a way, it is like the other men who are in this thread with the words " how dare you tell me my audio aint perfect " .

So quick to criticise, yet cant take a dose of their own medicine.

Hey boys, just mumble along with your crappy sounding stations...none of my business.

At least no one tells me MY audio sound mushy, cause according to some of you I spend all of my time here on the computer and not on the radio...but...it IS possible to have the radio & the computer ON within 10 feet of each other...other folks do it ( look at the pictures in the profiles ), why can't I ?

Just be thankful I picked 3.955 for the frequency to listen to as I go to sleep...it is the conversations, nothing more. Keep up the good work. !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ai4ep]

also the frequency to talk to california from Alabama was 50.125 usb.

Dern, I forgot to mention THAT part.

oh well. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[k0cmh]

Duck, the bullets are flying now.

On another note, I use a Turner +3 mic on my Ic-718 rig. I worked hard to balance the mic gain in the rig and the gain on the mic to get a good match up. I get very complimentary audio reports and no background noise. My signal is no wider than any good one. It can be done.

Regarding the breath noises on VHF ( 2 meters), well, I bought a Yaesu 8800R and the mic that comes with it is a problem. If you have the mic anywhere near infront of you, it will send tons of those annoying pops, huffs and puffs. One has to hold the mic backwards and talk across the top of it, not across it, and never into it. Talking across the top and backwards is a habit I am still trying to learn. I am looking for an alternative mic for this rig. Two other fellows I know have the same rig and the same problem. Nice radio, mic sucks.

[WA9SVD]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 22 2006,08:14)]also the frequency to talk to california from Alabama was 50.125 usb.

Dern, I forgot to mention THAT part.

oh well. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Robert:

Yes; that was a crucial part of information (you were talking on 6 M!!!) that was omitted, but that's not even an issue.

When you are operating Es on VHF my point is even more important. While Es supports (or can support) strong signals for long distances (as you experienced from AL to CA) with even low power, contacts in the interim distances (outside of the Es region) will normally not be possible repardless of the power level. If you were talking 1200 miles or so, that is about the limit of single hop "skip," or Sporadic E propagation. (Not uncommon in many areas of the U.S. this time of year.) But there's normally NO propagation in the intervening distances. Regardless of power level. It is NOT a linear relationship. So working AL to CA at 10 watts might not be improbable, and quite possible (remember the "wet noodle" anecdote about 6 Meters when it's open; linguine can support higher power!)
But legal limit to areas in between might not get through.

[n0iu]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 21 2006,01:54)]Some of these folks...just DO IT to get attention... #even bad attention is better than no attention.And this from someone with over 11440 posts in 4.5 years!

Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ June 22 2006,00:51)]It really amazes me that some hams even ones who hold an extra license try to get attention with 50 watts, or even 100 with 20 over S9 static crashes in the middle of summer on 80 meters...Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 22 2006,01:34)]Oh, by the way, technically speaking, the season of SUMMER just officially started on June 21, 2006 ( yesterday ) , so the " middle of summer " will not be for several weeks #ahead in the calendar month of August, 2006.I am pretty sure he did not mean THIS summer!

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 21 2006,06:54)]http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif I heard a couple like that on 3.955 last weekend.

I tried to key up and advise them of the situation...but...every time I unkeyed some one else was talking...so...I stopped.

I DID hear some one else try to tell one of the 2 stations of his lousy audio, but he got ignored...

Some of these folks that have the lousy audio already know it and just DO IT to get attention...even bad attention is better than no attention.
Leave it to someone that sounds like a sick goose to criticize others audio. <snicker>

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ June 22 2006,05:51)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 21 2006,08:54)]http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif I heard a couple like that on 3.955 last weekend.

I tried to key up and advise them of the situation...but...every time I unkeyed some one else was talking...so...I stopped.

I DID hear some one else try to tell one of the 2 stations of his lousy audio, but he got ignored...

Some of these folks that have the lousy audio already know it and just DO IT to get attention...even bad attention is better than no attention.
Maybe the reason no one heard you and consider this as constructive criticism was your lousy audio, or weak signal, or lack of both or could it be those good folks were just ignoring you...

It really amazes me that some hams even ones who hold an extra license try to get attention with 50 watts, or even 100 with 20 over S9 static crashes in the middle of summer on 80 meters, don't take a rocket scientist to figure that out but then again you have those who are just thick...

kxq
Hey Jimbo, you know how Ron White got the name of his book 'You Can't Fix Stupid'? Yep, he met ep.

[WA9SVD]

That was sort of unnecessary. The moderators have become MUCH less forgiving of name calling and personal attacks before they will "lock" a forum. Disagree if you will, but simple name calling isn't productive.

[n4qlq]

You know, if Robert ever gets a real life and finds something better to do than come here, you folks will really be lost without him to fuss at.

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (wa9svd @ June 22 2006,12:12)]That was sort of unnecessary. The moderators have become MUCH less forgiving of name calling and personal attacks before they will "lock" a forum. Disagree if you will, but simple name calling isn't productive.
Did Ron White meet you too?

[WA9SVD]

Quote[/b] (wd0ct @ June 22 2006,13:25)]Quote[/b] (wa9svd @ June 22 2006,12:12)]That was sort of unnecessary. The moderators have become MUCH less forgiving of name calling and personal attacks before they will "lock" a forum. Disagree if you will, but simple name calling isn't productive.
Did Ron White meet you too?
And whom, may I ask is "Ron White?" Or does he have a "claim to fame?" I am not famaliar with the person. Please enlighten.

[ai4ep]

Well, well, well...

look at all the name calling while I was gone.

mighty interesting. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[N7RJD]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 22 2006,13:12)]Well, well, well...

look at all the name calling while I was gone.

mighty interesting. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
I bet you're sorry you turned your back now. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[ai4ep]

I was just enjoying life away from the computer and look what happens.

You sit by the keyboard and no one says a thing good or bad...but you leave for 5 - 7 hours and you see what happens.

[w8cbc]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ June 22 2006,07:21)]Ever listen to the rare DX on 14.195 working split? Pileups from 14.200 up to 14.210, with the pre-requisit number of COPS on frequency 14.195?

With their VOX set to trip with every cough and other throat clearings?
VOX. Blah. Too many trip on every little background noise just as you say. Some others are adjusted too far the other way - choppy, very tedious. I wish they'd just key the damned thing manually.

I've been laying off the compression of late. I've been told it sounds very good actually, unsolicited comments at that. Still, in some bands (10 metres mainly) I have enough RF on the gear that I have to shut it off to be intelligible and I often forget to switch it back in in others. I still make plenty of contacts without it so what the hell.

[WA9SVD]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 22 2006,20:38)]I was just enjoying life away from the computer and look what happens.

You sit by the keyboard and no one says a thing good or bad...but you leave for 5 - 7 hours and you see what happens.
Robert:

I'm sure the moderators keep close tabs on those few that resort to name-calling and personal attacks. I would hate to see ANY thread locked because of it, or anyone banned. Those that do so seem to be warned in quick order, but not always publicly. But neither you, nor I, or anyone else should try to retaliate or even respond in any way directly. The offenders will either change their approach and become civil, or disappear inth the ether. Or some "CyberPurgatory."

73

[w8cbc]

Why does everything around here have to degenerate into a squabble?

[K9STH]

For decades Motorola put in a pamphlet with every new mobile microphone (both microphones sold separately and those with new complete mobile units) telling how to hold the microphone.

What Motorola said was to hold the microphone so that the edge of the microphone just touched the corner of your mouth at a right angle to the mouth. Then talk across the front of the microphone in a normal tone of voice.

Doing this avoids the breath noises which are caused by the air flow from the mouth striking the microphone element while providing plenty of audio for modulating the unit.

I have been doing this for over 40 years and have had no problems with the audio level or breath noise. Whenever I run into someone who is "popping" all over the place due to breath noise I strongly "suggest" trying to talk across the microphone and not directly into the microphone. So far, every case of breath noise has been eliminated and the audio quality is improved considerably.

Glen, K9STH

[w8cbc]

I settled on something similar in broadcast - the mic was a few inches away and angled about 60 degrees to the side. It took awhile to come up with a sound I liked; that's what did it. Good voice quality with minimal popping resulted.

I totally forgot about it after I hung up the cans, have been speaking straight into the mic. I should try angling it away again.

Thanks for the reminder.

[w8znx]

for over 40 years
always close talked the mike

just keep mike gain where it should be
not cranked up all the way

never did like VOX
always use mash to talk

Mac

[WA9SVD]

Quote[/b] (K9STH @ June 23 2006,09:44)]For decades Motorola put in a pamphlet with every new mobile microphone (both microphones sold separately and those with new complete mobile units) telling how to hold the microphone.

What Motorola said was to hold the microphone so that the edge of the microphone just touched the corner of your mouth at a right angle to the mouth. Then talk across the front of the microphone in a normal tone of voice.
I'm sure that used to be in some of the old ARRL "Operating Manuals," as well. Probably got lost in the dust of incentive licensing.

MAC: Careful. Somebody might copyright "Mash-to-Talk" if you aren't careful. There's no telling what the cell phone guys will do! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif


BTW, wd0ct:

Why is it considered "stupid" to say "name calling" is disagreeable and has no place here? Just curious!

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (wa9svd @ June 23 2006,08:34)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 22 2006,20:38)]I was just enjoying life away from the computer and look what happens.

You sit by the keyboard and no one says a thing good or bad...but you leave for 5 - 7 hours and you see what happens.
Robert:

I'm sure the moderators keep close tabs on those few that resort to name-calling and personal attacks. I would hate to see ANY thread locked because of it, or anyone banned. Those that do so seem to be warned in quick order, but not always publicly. But neither you, nor I, or anyone else should try to retaliate or even respond in any way directly. The offenders will either change their approach and become civil, or disappear inth the ether. Or some "CyberPurgatory."

73
svd: Just a friendly suggestion, if you want to be a moderator, apply for the next opening.

[WA9SVD]

Quote[/b] (wd0ct @ June 23 2006,14:28)]Quote[/b] (wa9svd @ June 23 2006,08:34)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 22 2006,20:38)]I was just enjoying life away from the computer and look what happens.

You sit by the keyboard and no one says a thing good or bad...but you leave for 5 - 7 hours and you see what happens.
Robert:

I'm sure the moderators keep close tabs on those few that resort to name-calling and personal attacks. I would hate to see ANY thread locked because of it, or anyone banned. Those that do so seem to be warned in quick order, but not always publicly. But neither you, nor I, or anyone else should try to retaliate or even respond in any way directly. The offenders will either change their approach and become civil, or disappear inth the ether. Or some "CyberPurgatory."

73
svd: Just a friendly suggestion, if you want to be a moderator, apply for the next opening.
You didn't answer a legitimate question.

[WA2ZDY]

Whoever complained about the FT8800 audio above, open the rig up, find the mic gain pot and turn it down. #Glen is correct, mic gain low and close-talk the mic is a much better idea. #

The way you describe talking over the back of the mic, I shudder to imagine all the extraneous noises getting in the mic from the front. # The higher the mic gain, the farther you have to be from it (fine so far) and the more other garbage it will pick up.

The easy way to set the mic gain? Get a few guys on the repeater or simplex, doesn't matter which, and close-talk the mic and you adjust the mic gain until you are no louder and no softer than everyone else on the frequency.

Sure checking the deviation and all is how it should be done, but doesn't it drive you nuts when you're listening and one guy comes on who makes you turn the volume up or down, then back when he's done? As I said, set it so you sound like everyone else. Simple.

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif hee hee hee
** Turning the microphone SIDEWAYS
also eliminates all the slobber and spit from sticking to the front of the microphone and going on to the top of the steering wheel or the dashboard or even inside of the front windshield.

Be careful of it on the steering wheel, your slobber and spit can make the wheel slimy and slick and you lose your grip on it with those 2 fingers you DO steer with on that one hand ( and hold microphone with the other ) .
===cause of accident : slobber / spit on steering wheel, making it slick for driver to attempt to hold on to. === http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif QUESTION ---

Who is " Ron White " ??

[N0KLT]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 23 2006,19:41)]http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif QUESTION ---

Who is " Ron White " ??
Ron "Tater Salad" White is a comedian from the South someplace, I want to say Texas but I wouldn't swear to it. He hooked up with Jeff Foxworthy a few years ago and he and Jeff, Larry the Cable Guy and Bill Engvall formed the The Blue Collar Tour which is a comedy touring show from which a couple of made for TV movies got made and they ended up with a syndicated show with the same name. All of the guys are 'country comedians'. White's main deal is his drinking and smoking, tells a lot of jokes about things that happened when he was drunk or drinking. The nickname 'Tater Salad' is something he hung on himself one time when he was arrested supposedly. He told the cops his name was Salad, Tater Salad. There is a long involved somewhat funny story involving that nickname and his getting arrested for being drunk in public in NYC. If you don't know who Foxworthy, Engvall and Larry the Cable Guy are, try Google. It's way too late at night to start to explain those 3. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (K9STH @ June 23 2006,08:44)]I have been doing this for over 40 years and have had no problems with the audio level or breath noise.
Man! Aren't you tired? When do you sleep? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[ai4ep]

KLT...I saw a video of 4 dudes sitting on a COMEDY channel stage telling a skit about " decks " and see ing the planet Uranus.

One of these dudes was Foxworthy, and another was a dude that used to have a ABC tv show ( I forget his name, it was too stupid to watch the whole show )...and I aint seen the other 2 and problably wont again.

It was supposed to be a humorous skit about decks folks have built on the front or back of their home, but it was just plain stupid, and lasted about 4 minutes which was about 3:55 too long. It did have an audience who laughed and slapped when told to.

So far as being from " the south "...all of us in the continental USA are south of CANADA, so that explains that part. or most of us are any way. . http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[N0KLT]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ June 23 2006,22:16)]KLT...I saw a video of 4 dudes sitting on a COMEDY channel stage telling a skit about " decks " and see ing the planet Uranus.

One of these dudes was Foxworthy, and another was a dude that used to have a ABC tv show ( I forget his name, it was too stupid to watch the whole show )...and I aint seen the other 2 and problably wont again.

It was supposed to be a humorous skit about decks folks have built on the front or back of their home, but it was just plain stupid, and lasted about 4 minutes which was about 3:55 too long. It did have an audience who laughed and slapped when told to.

So far as being from " the south "...all of us in the continental USA are south of CANADA, so that explains that part. or most of us are any way. . http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
That was the Blue Collar group, the fat guy with the cigar and glass full of scotch was Ron White. Foxworthy had a tv series a few years ago and Engvall was on it. Where the h*** Larry the Cable Guy came from I have no clue(and don't want to know). I take it you didn't rush out and see Larry's first movie that was released to the theaters and to dvd shortly thereafter, I forget the title, some thing about Larry the Food Inspector. The ads and promos on tv looked dumb as a post and those are usually the best parts of a movie.

[KD7WHQ]

Back somewhat to the topic, this FT-8900r has two modulation levels, WA7KAT's and mine.

She can talk into the mic from 4" away, I have to put it right up to my face.

Preamplification isn't an option obviously.

Odd bit is, it will pick her up from across the room.

Go figure..

[n0iu]

I heard an interview with Jeff Foxworthy and he was asked if he saw Larry The Cable Guy's movie Health Inspector to which he replied, "No, but I flushed $15 down the toilet so now it feels like I saw it!"

[WA2ZDY]

I first saw Jeff Foxworthy on a comedy video called "Truly Tasteless Jokes" back in the early 80s. He was hysterical as an unknown. I wasn't surprised when he hit the big time.

Marsha Warfield (Roz from Night Court) was the other one on that video who hit it big. The others were funny too; it was a good tape.

[W0LPQ]

Chris ... Roz IS a trip.... even on Night Court she was good.

Bill, W0LPQ

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Yep, that is what I like about listening to 3.955 with an old realistic digital shortwave receiver...no transmitter...so even if I get tempted to say something, I can not.

Plus I can use my amateur rig on more important frequencies...like 1.900 khz.

Since sunset it aint half as noisy, less than an hour after sunset.

Aint AMERICA great ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif