New Reporter Deaths [Archive]

nx6d

05-31-2006, 05:31 PM

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ May 31 2006,08:04)]Now that another 2 media employees are dead, will we see their bosses calling for immediate withdrawl from the area and come on home, or will they say they need to see the war through to the end.

Hypocrites.

K2WH
Yeah, right.

Calls for withdrawal pre-date the deaths of the reporters. The Iraq invasion was a mistake from the beginning.

I know it's really fun for right wing zealots to bash the non-partisan press but your bashing has no basis in reality.

I guess a less than 30% approval rating for Bush's handling of this stupid war doesn't mean anything to you.

Preparing for the predictable responses...

1. liberal, liberal, liberal
2. Polls are biased
3. We need to keep the US safe from terrorism...

Blah, Blah, Blah...

Dave WX7B
Sonoma County, CA

kc7jty

05-31-2006, 05:45 PM

I'd like to see that Lara Logan get it......then maybe Katie Couric. Nothing serious just a big scar on their rumps.

NO8M

05-31-2006, 08:21 PM

Screw 'em. Any non-military personnel in a war zone are there voluntarily. The knew going in that they were putting their bodies in harm's way. Leave wars to us warriors. I don't feel sorry for dead reporters...I feel sorry for the soldiers that had to babysit them instead of doing the job they signed up to do.

I don't side with the right or the left. Politicians are all whacked. I do feel, however, that there are times when the whole world shouldn't be privy to the inner working's of the world's finest war machine.

Feeling sorry for those reporters is like feeling sorry for a bank robber that gets shot trying to escape the cops.....he knew what he was doing when he donned the ski mask.

kd5rpo

05-31-2006, 08:35 PM

Quote[/b] (NO8M @ May 31 2006,14:21)]Screw 'em. Any non-military personnel in a war zone are there voluntarily. The knew going in that they were putting their bodies in harm's way. Leave wars to us warriors. I don't feel sorry for dead reporters...I feel sorry for the soldiers that had to babysit them instead of doing the job they signed up to do.

I don't side with the right or the left. Politicians are all whacked. I do feel, however, that there are times when the whole world shouldn't be privy to the inner working's of the world's finest war machine.

Feeling sorry for those reporters is like feeling sorry for a bank robber that gets shot trying to escape the cops.....he knew what he was doing when he donned the ski mask.
I take it that you aren't a religious man.

nx6d

05-31-2006, 08:41 PM

Quote[/b] (NO8M @ May 31 2006,12:21)]
Quote[/b] ]Feeling sorry for those reporters is like feeling sorry for a bank robber that gets shot trying to escape the cops.....he knew what he was doing when he donned the ski mask.

Nice twisted logic. HMMMM. Reporting on the war is not illegal, robbing a bank IS illegal.

You guys on the right (and you are one of "them", despite your claims of impartiality) get upset when reporters don't report "the good" in Iraq, which they do, but don't care when a reporter gets wasted, possibly reporting "the bad". You'd probably care if the reporter was reporting "the good" when they got wasted, but what "good" is that?

Dave WX7B
Sonoma County, CA

kc7jty

05-31-2006, 09:55 PM

Quote[/b] (NO8M @ May 30 2006,14:21)]instead of doing the job they signed up to do.
And exactly what the hell is that?

and BTW: It's the WHACKED politicians that use you as tools for their own personal gain. They are the ones who should be over there getting their tails blown off.

kc7jty

05-31-2006, 09:57 PM

Quote[/b] (kd5rpo @ May 30 2006,14:35)]Quote[/b] (NO8M @ May 31 2006,14:21)]Screw 'em. Any non-military personnel in a war zone are there voluntarily. The knew going in that they were putting their bodies in harm's way. Leave wars to us warriors. I don't feel sorry for dead reporters...I feel sorry for the soldiers that had to babysit them instead of doing the job they signed up to do.

I don't side with the right or the left. Politicians are all whacked. I do feel, however, that there are times when the whole world shouldn't be privy to the inner working's of the world's finest war machine.

Feeling sorry for those reporters is like feeling sorry for a bank robber that gets shot trying to escape the cops.....he knew what he was doing when he donned the ski mask.
I take it that you aren't a religious man.
His god is the military.

w0aew

05-31-2006, 10:16 PM

Quote[/b] (NO8M @ May 31 2006,13:21)]Screw 'em.
http://home.comcast.net/~winterbauer/downloads/ernie.jpg

Ernie Pyle just turned over in his grave.

w5klb

05-31-2006, 10:51 PM

Quote[/b] (NO8M @ May 31 2006,13:21)]Feeling sorry for those reporters is like feeling sorry for a bank robber that gets shot trying to escape the cops.....he knew what he was doing when he donned the ski mask.
Shipmate OM NO8M,

I gotta admit this comment was a "little over the top". There is a HUGE difference between a "bank robber" and a news reporter.

There are places that reporters shouldn't be. Not because that don't have right to get a story (they do), but because that they might get a G.I. killed. Also, like you, they may be privy to some classified infomation that really doesn't need be talked about as was the case with Heraldo Rivera when he was embedded with some troops during the invasion of Iraq for Fox News. He got sent to Qutar real quick by his boses. This was due to his drawing in the dirt concerning "war plans".

I have this Vietnam vet friend that was in the battle of Hue City and some news men wanted to get "his story" while this war was taking place. He told them to "get out" before they get someone like themselves or another GI killed. Their concern for the GI's safety was rather "lacking" to say the least. It seems that some war correspondants place greater priorty on getting the story than on their's or the GI's safety.

Comparing reporters to "bank robbers" is not good, OM. The only thing I wish these people would do is get BOTH sides of the story. That's not happening too much with the liberal media these days.

N4AUD

05-31-2006, 10:56 PM

Here's what I think about the reporter's bosses in general...
If they could get one of their reporters wounded or killed ON CAMERA they would secretly be thrilled. Ratings would skyrocket and that would cause the prices of commericial air time during their broadcasts to skyrocket also.
I really hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.

nx6d

05-31-2006, 11:16 PM

Quote[/b] (K1ALK @ May 31 2006,14:56)]Here's what I think about the reporter's bosses in general...
If they could get one of their reporters wounded or killed ON CAMERA they would secretly be thrilled. #Ratings would skyrocket and that would cause the prices of commericial air time during their broadcasts to skyrocket also.
I really hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
That comment is just as dumb as NO8M's original comment.

NO ONE wants to see anyone killed for ratings.

You need a serious reality check, station.

Dave WX7B
Sonoma County, CA

N4AUD

05-31-2006, 11:23 PM

NO ONE?
"NO ONE" is like "never" and I wouldn't bet on either one. There are people in the news/entertainment business who will do ANYTHING for ratings. I am surprised you don't know that. I have no problem at all with reality.

Have you ever disagreed with anyone without being insulting and nasty, BTW?

nx6d

05-31-2006, 11:26 PM

Quote[/b] (K1ALK @ May 31 2006,15:23)]NO ONE?
"NO ONE" is like "never" and I wouldn't bet on either one. #There are people in the news/entertainment business who will do ANYTHING for ratings. #I am surprised you don't know that. #I have no problem at all with reality.

Have you ever disagreed with anyone without being insulting and nasty, BTW?
WAAH!

You say something completely stupid and irresponsible, expect to get a response.

I can't believe you'd even ATTEMPT to make the "I'm a victim" argument, after what you just said...

Dave WX7B
Sonoma County, CA

N4AUD

05-31-2006, 11:39 PM

You didn't read a "Wah" from me, OM, and I'm nobody's victim. I CAN disagree without being disagreeable. Can you? It doesn't appear so.

I posted that I thought some people in the media industry would secretly be happy that someone would get killed or wounded on camera and I will stand by that. There are some people who will do ANYTHING for money. Some of those people are in the media industry. If you don't know that, perhaps you should have a "reality check."

nx6d

05-31-2006, 11:43 PM

Quote[/b] (K1ALK @ May 31 2006,15:39)]You didn't read a "Wah" from me, OM, and I'm nobody's victim. #I CAN disagree without being disagreeable. #Can you? #It doesn't appear so.

I posted that I thought some people in the media industry would secretly be happy that someone would get killed or wounded on camera and I will stand by that. #There are some people who will do ANYTHING for money. #Some of those people are in the media industry. #If you don't know that, perhaps you should have a "reality check."
Repeating yourself and attacking the person who called you on your irresponsible comment doesn't justify the original comment.

Don't lecture me about civility. You just stated some media people would love to see a death to boost ratings. That's completely ridiculous, and speaks volumes about YOU as a person.

I'm done responding to you.

Dave WX7B
Sonoma County, CA

N4AUD

05-31-2006, 11:44 PM

Done with you too.

ab8ma

05-31-2006, 11:49 PM

Quote[/b] (kd5rpo @ May 31 2006,20:35)]Quote[/b] (NO8M @ May 31 2006,14:21)]Screw 'em. Any non-military personnel in a war zone are there voluntarily. The knew going in that they were putting their bodies in harm's way. Leave wars to us warriors. I don't feel sorry for dead reporters...I feel sorry for the soldiers that had to babysit them instead of doing the job they signed up to do.

I don't side with the right or the left. Politicians are all whacked. I do feel, however, that there are times when the whole world shouldn't be privy to the inner working's of the world's finest war machine.

Feeling sorry for those reporters is like feeling sorry for a bank robber that gets shot trying to escape the cops.....he knew what he was doing when he donned the ski mask.
I take it that you aren't a religious man.
But I am. And no8m speaks the truth. War is hell. Always has been. The folks who "choose" to be there made their own decisions.

Now if those decisions were based greed, and not a higher value, then tough.

kf6rdn

06-01-2006, 04:14 AM

Quote[/b] (WX7B @ May 31 2006,15:26)]Quote[/b] (K1ALK @ May 31 2006,15:23)]NO ONE?
"NO ONE" is like "never" and I wouldn't bet on either one. #There are people in the news/entertainment business who will do ANYTHING for ratings. #I am surprised you don't know that. #I have no problem at all with reality.

Have you ever disagreed with anyone without being insulting and nasty, BTW?
WAAH!

You say something completely stupid and irresponsible, expect to get a response.

I can't believe you'd even ATTEMPT to make the "I'm a victim" argument, after what you just said...

Dave WX7B
Sonoma County, CA
It is your opinion that it is "stupid".

There's people out there willing to KILL for 20 bucks I am sure it is entirely possible someone wouldn't mind someone else dying for profit. Not saying there IS, but that it is possible.

Nice to assume the good in everyone, but unfortunatly the world isn't like that. Just look at the polititions selling off this auction. I mean Country.

w5klb

06-01-2006, 05:31 AM

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ May 31 2006,21:14)]There's people out there willing to KILL for 20 bucks I am sure it is entirely possible someone wouldn't mind someone else dying for profit. #Not saying there IS, but that it is possible.
True, but I wouldn't want to watch a war correspondant or a cameraman being blown up on TV, nor do I think the Networks would like it. You have to remember that some of these people have friends at their jobs and seem to be a pretty close knit community. Plus some of these reporters have family. No network producer in their right mind would want air such a horrid event just to get more ratings. These people are human and have some ethics, albeit questionable at times.

As hard to believe as it seems, I happen to agree with Dave.

<<THUMP!>> Dave? Dave... someone get the smelling salts. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

kd5rpo

06-01-2006, 06:49 AM

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ May 31 2006,17:49)]Quote[/b] (kd5rpo @ May 31 2006,20:35)]Quote[/b] (NO8M @ May 31 2006,14:21)]Screw 'em. Any non-military personnel in a war zone are there voluntarily. The knew going in that they were putting their bodies in harm's way. Leave wars to us warriors. I don't feel sorry for dead reporters...I feel sorry for the soldiers that had to babysit them instead of doing the job they signed up to do.

I don't side with the right or the left. Politicians are all whacked. I do feel, however, that there are times when the whole world shouldn't be privy to the inner working's of the world's finest war machine.

Feeling sorry for those reporters is like feeling sorry for a bank robber that gets shot trying to escape the cops.....he knew what he was doing when he donned the ski mask.
I take it that you aren't a religious man.
But I am. And no8m speaks the truth. War is hell. Always has been. The folks who "choose" to be there made their own decisions.

Now if those decisions were based greed, and not a higher value, then tough.
Quote[/b] ]Now if those decisions were based greed, and not a higher value, then tough.
Greed? what about the Iraq war in general?
How do you feel about the Haliburton employees that were killed? I am just curious.

By the way the company the reporters work for is run by CBS president Leslie Moonves. You ought to check out his campaign contributions. Greed maybe.

kc7jty

06-01-2006, 06:29 PM

Quote[/b] (WX7B @ May 30 2006,17:16)]Quote[/b] (K1ALK @ May 31 2006,14:56)]Here's what I think about the reporter's bosses in general...
If they could get one of their reporters wounded or killed ON CAMERA they would secretly be thrilled. #Ratings would skyrocket and that would cause the prices of commericial air time during their broadcasts to skyrocket also.
I really hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
That comment is just as dumb as NO8M's original comment.

NO ONE wants to see anyone killed for ratings.

You need a serious reality check, station.

Dave WX7B
Sonoma County, CA
And everyone who attends the Indy 500 hopes there are no accidents causing bodily injury.