MARIJUANA HAS NO MEDICINAL VALUE

[WA5KRP]

The FDA has "concluded that no sound scientific studies supported medical use of marijuana for treatment in the United States, and no animal or human data supported the safety or efficacy of marijuana for general medical use." #
What the hell are they thinking? (http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420AP_Medical_Marijuana.html) #Obviously the FDA is talking out of both sides of its mouth, or why would they have approved Lilly's synthetic THC Marinol (http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/ongoing/marinol.html)? #It's a derivative of the naturally occurring tetrahydrocannabinols found in Cannabis. #According to this link to the DEA, the sin of the plant is that its benefits - or lack of benefits - are derived by smoking the plant. #Obviously these nimrods never ate a marijuana cookie.

This is an obvious political ploy by the FDA. #In all likelyhood they have been under pressure to issue this statement or risk losing substantial funding from Congress. #And it's tragic. #There's a lot of very sick people out there who endure AIDS, chemotherapy, terminal illness, or otherwise have no appetite, that depend on marijuana to get them through the day. #How can anybody or any agency look these people in the eyes and say marijuana has no medicinal value and should remain illegal? ? ?

IT'S CRUEL.



WA5KRP
Texas

[al2i]

If you think it is a free country, think again.

[al2i]

This is two years old, but still of interest. (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/040206.html)

[KG6OPR]

...Well if thats the case,I think I'll fire up a bowl of Prozac! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[N2ACX]

I believe in europe they have access to drugs that work very well, better in some cases than what we have here in the USA, not all but many.

First comments would be, well they probably have more fatalities from non FDA tested drugs. I don't buy that either. Seems in this country, in my opinion, the FDA is working for big money first, lobbyists second, middlemen 3rd and maybe the consumer is around 4th position.

I know a few people in europe, and non of them using the over the counter meds treating things from headaches to cancer for the last 38 years I have know them have had no adverse reactions from any of them as far as I know.

I remember in Canada they had a headache med called "222" which had I believe had 8 Mg of codeine in it. It worked fast for them but since it had codeine it was not allowed to be sold over the counter here. All we get is the con job garbage pills that claim they work better than the others etc etc while the only goal they seem to reach is, making the pharmecuticals wealthier at our expense...so what's new?

Of course the Thalidiomide mistakes are bound to happen here and other countries but fortunantly are very rare.

Just another 'snow job' from another so called agency in our government serving big money.

For crying out loud, if Marijuana works for those who have specific problems and it allows them to have a quality life let them friggen have it. I really don't understand some of the decisions the politicians come up with, but it's ok to murder a baby in late term where it has no catastrophic medical problems and the mother is healthy.

Oh well............73 N2ACX

[k6pme]

I once watched a program about medicinal marijuana. So who was I to believe? The DEA talking head reading from a prepared script or the medical research physicians. Some of these patients are deathly ill have don't really have much longer to live. Who cares if they smoke pot.

The DEA raids is just one more bit of evidence that the 10th amendment was abolished in 1860.

[K0RGR]

Yes, this is outrageous. It's another example of how the party in power misuses the bureaucracy. In this case, they've made it virtually impossible for real scientists to do serious studies of the matter, and in those cases where the science has been done, including by their own scientists, they just choose to ignore the positive findings.

I can't blame this one on President Bush, though he has weighed in on the wrong side of this one before - remember that his Attorney General shut down medicinal marijuana sales in states that had legalized it.

We just shouldn't stand for politicians meddling in science. Let the studies be done and published.

[w5klb]

Ear. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W5JO]

What is the difference in taking a pill (which has been available for years) or huffing a joint? Doctors can prescribe the effective pill anytime they wish. What is the big deal?

[al2i]

It is all about control, and who feels they have a right to your money, body, mind, and soul.

[K3XR]

The maggot infested, long haired, tie dyed, FM, anti-establishment, if it feels good, do it crowd, is bummed out tonight...man.

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (W5JO @ April 21 2006,18:12)]What is the difference in taking a pill (which has been available for years) or huffing a joint? #Doctors can prescribe the effective pill anytime they wish. #What is the big deal?
The big deal is cost. #Check out the prices:

Marinol - 10mg Capsules
Quantity Our Price
30 capsules $608.67
60 capsules $1,191.44
90 capsules $1,787.17
100 capsules $1,985.74
120 capsules $2,382.89
150 capsules $2,978.61
180 capsules $3,574.33

Quotes are from drugstore.com (http://www.drugstore.com/pharmacy/prices/drugprice.asp?ndc=00051002321&trx=1Z5006)

Daily doses can be as high as 3 capsules daily. #

Many insurance plans do not cover Marinol. #You're pretty much on your own.


WA5KRP
Texas

[W2ILP]

I dunno if Marijuana has medicinal value but I do know that if anything it is not healthy for most people.
During the Vietnam anti-war protests it seems a lot of young people turned to marijuana (and some to heavier drugs). Many did this just because they wanted to be anti-establishment. Many became "pot heads". They were the Hippies and being into drugs was often a part of "their thing".

I just hope that the anti-war / anti-establishment crowd of today doesn't use the lack of reefers as another reason for their political rebellion. I think that they need to stay on one logical path and be unencumbered by druggies. Bush bashers don't need a coalition with the druggies.

Marijuana may be needed by sick people...but don't let it make well people sick.

If it feels good today it may feel bad tomorrow.

w2ilp (Inhibit Long Puffing)...don't inhale....better still don't smoke anything that you can't suck.

[KF0RT]

Anyone know how many people died as a direct result of pot use last year? I'm not seeing it in the census reports.

73, Rob

[KW4MW]

Rob - you can't be serious - didn't you see "Reefer Madness" ? (Women Cry For It - Men Die For It! )

[K0RGR]

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ April 21 2006,17:04)]The maggot infested, long haired, tie dyed, FM, anti-establishment, if it feels good, do it crowd, is bummed out tonight...man.
The short-haired, tied to a plow, spark gap, establishment corporate maggots are having a party...dude.

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ April 21 2006,21:27)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ April 21 2006,17:04)]The maggot infested, long haired, tie dyed, FM, anti-establishment, if it feels good, do it crowd, is bummed out tonight...man.
The short-haired, tied to a plow, spark gap, establishment corporate maggots are having a party...dude.
I can't recall ever seeing a fly land on a roach. But then I may have been some what distracted.



WA5KRP
Texas

[KC2ESD]

Its all about Money plain and simple. The Drug companies want to sell you expensive drugs, not using cheep home grown drugs.

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ April 21 2006,21:37)]Its all about Money plain and simple. The Drug companies want to sell you expensive drugs, not using cheep home grown drugs.
That's so simple-minded it's dumb.


At least that's what the drug companies would have you think.


I think it happens to be the truth.




WA5KRP
Texas

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ April 21 2006,20:24)]Rob - you can't be serious - didn't you see "Reefer Madness" ? (Women Cry For It - Men Die For It! )
Sorry, Mike -- I was looking for a straight man for the joke. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I believe the answer is "zero."

Been a few years since I've seen "Reefer Madness" but I should watch it again just to get the "flavor" of 3XR's news sources.

73, Rob

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ April 21 2006,20:37)]Its all about Money plain and simple. The Drug companies want to sell you expensive drugs, not using cheep home grown drugs.
Don't forget that ever since Reagan's zero tolerance policy, drugs are a profit center for many law enforcement agencies. Bust someone, you get to keep the loot.

73, Rob

[kk7ue]

Hey man, I wanna know why this wasnt posted on 4:20 dude? I know I was posted on 4:20 he he he he http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[w5klb]

Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ April 22 2006,04:27)]Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ April 21 2006,20:24)]Rob - you can't be serious - didn't you see "Reefer Madness" ? #(Women Cry For It - Men Die For It! )
Sorry, Mike -- I was looking for a straight man for the joke. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I believe the answer is "zero." #

Been a few years since I've seen "Reefer Madness" but I should watch it again just to get the "flavor" of 3XR's news sources.

73, Rob
I heard the movie "Waiting To Exhale" was good too. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (w5klb @ April 22 2006,07:17)]Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ April 22 2006,04:27)]Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ April 21 2006,20:24)]Rob - you can't be serious - didn't you see "Reefer Madness" ? (Women Cry For It - Men Die For It! )
Sorry, Mike -- I was looking for a straight man for the joke. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I believe the answer is "zero."

Been a few years since I've seen "Reefer Madness" but I should watch it again just to get the "flavor" of 3XR's news sources.

73, Rob
I heard the movie "Waiting To Exhale" was good too. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Wasn't that a chick flick? Never saw that one... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73, Rob

[G0GQK]

It is not true that marijuana has no medical effect on the body. There are some poor unfortunate people who suffer continual pain and who gain a release from pain by smoking an illegal substance. Facts about this have been shown in TV documentaries.

However, the people suffering pain and smoking marijuana will contract a more serious form of lung cancer by inhaling the smoke.

Mel G0GQK