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kg4kww
04-01-2006, 06:15 AM
The ARRL has a big push on to get new blood into Amateur Radio through its HELLO program. I have looked at the info and some is interesting and some not so interesting. However, the ARRL, is not being totally upfront about CW. True, when they say CW is no longer required for a Tech license but, they don't say that CW is still required to advance to General and Extra. Hmmmmmmmm wonder why!!!! All in all I found the HELLO Web Site to be so so. Yes I know the HELLO program is in an article in the current QST but how many non hams are going to buy QST or know about it, unless they have a friend that's a ham.
With that being said, what's your thoughts on the HELLO program?
ARRL HELLO Link (http://www.hello-radio.org/whatis.html)
KI6ADA
04-01-2006, 06:43 AM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 31 2006,23:15)]With that being said, what's your thoughts on the HELLO program?
ARRL HELLO Link (http://www.hello-radio.org/whatis.html)
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They don't tell you that the young man playing chess with a person in Japan, has his HT hooked up to Echolink. They are still telling everybody how great ARES is used for Amateur radio service during emergencies. They have not received their notice from FEMA and Homeland Security requiring all public volunteers to be ICS 100 certified.
I would like to know how they are going to open their campaign to the general public. I honestly don't see the new president of ARRL, being interviewed by Larry King, #maybe he should start easy like Jerry Springer "Battle of the Morse Code Junkies!!"
I am still undecided about renewing my subscription. If they would be more up to date on their current event articles in QST; I might lay down the $40 bucks to gain access to the web site articles.
I tell my friends about Ham Radio and the fun of chatting on 2 meters and learning CW.
ARRL, well obviously the owner of this web site must receive angry notes from the ARRL Marketing department. My thought FREE SPEECH 73, ki6ada #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
KC2ESD
04-01-2006, 07:14 AM
I'm linking the HELLO site to my website.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Rick KC2ESD
ae6yd
04-01-2006, 08:28 AM
Ham radio needs recognition, but it seems to me that a PR campaign just isn't going to cut it. Good idea, ARRL, and I hope it accomplishes your goals, but I'm rather skeptical.
KF0RT
04-01-2006, 01:04 PM
Why is it that most ham web sites look like they were designed by an 8th grader? (No offense intended to 8th graders!).
73, Rob
kf4vgx
04-01-2006, 03:21 PM
Quote[/b] (KI6ADA @ Mar. 31 2006,00:43)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 31 2006,23:15)]With that being said, what's your thoughts on the HELLO program?
ARRL HELLO Link (http://www.hello-radio.org/whatis.html)
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They don't tell you that the young man playing chess with a person in Japan, has his HT hooked up to Echolink. They are still telling everybody how great ARES is used for Amateur radio service during emergencies. They have not received their notice from FEMA and Homeland Security requiring all public volunteers to be ICS 100 certified.
I would like to know how they are going to open their campaign to the general public. I honestly don't see the new president of ARRL, being interviewed by Larry King, #maybe he should start easy like Jerry Springer "Battle of the Morse Code Junkies!!"
I am still undecided about renewing my subscription. If they would be more up to date on their current event articles in QST; I might lay down the $40 bucks to gain access to the web site articles.
I tell my friends about Ham Radio and the fun of chatting on 2 meters and learning CW.
ARRL, well obviously the owner of this web site must receive angry notes from the ARRL Marketing department. My thought FREE SPEECH 73, ki6ada #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
They don't tell you that the young man playing chess with a person in Japan, has his HT hooked up to Echolink.
............
What a neat idea ! ARRL, KEEP up the good work http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
W5HTW
04-01-2006, 03:41 PM
Kinda what happened in the early 1990s. The ARRL promoted ham radio as being easier than ever to get into, and being a way to save the world. But what so many saw as "the real ham radio," that is, the big beams and the DX, was as out of reach as ever for the No Code Technician. And there just aren't enough emergencies to go around so every wannabe hero can save the world with an HT. The result was those folks were misled, and the majority of them quickly became inactive.
What will happen with this promotion? Well first of all, preaching to the choir doesn't get the job done. The ARRL has to reach the non-ham public, and they have to try to override the joys of FRS, iPods, MP3 gadgets, the internet, voice chat, instant messaging, GMRS, CB, video games, and photo cell phones with TV and music in them. And NONE of those require a test! NONE of those require any effort at all, and, sorry to say, folks don't want effort. We have proved that definitively right here on QRZ and elsewhere in ham radio.
Demonstrating ham radio to a non-ham is the only way it will work, but unless at the same time you can demonstrate why it is NOT the same thing as CB, FRS, GMRS, you are not going to grab anyone. And as soon as you say "we use the internet," they say "So do I," and they are gone.
If you can't promote RADIO, you can't promote the hobby. You wind up promoting other hobbies, mostly surfing the web.
I have very little faith in the Hello program, but I'd like to see some sort of success from it. I hope that happens.
We have to know the enemy, though, and the enemy is all the free technology available to the would-be ham. And so much of it does exactly what we do! It is just our methods of talking from A to B that are different - we use radio. They use internet and cell phones. Which is faster and easier, doesn't require a test, and costs less?
Ed
K7JBQ
04-01-2006, 03:52 PM
Ed,
My thoughts exactly, though more eloquently put, as usual.
An aside: Hell, why not play chess by echolink? I used to have a ball playing chess on 75m AM, where the carrier sure helped to keep the frequency between moves.
As far as attracting new blood, methinks you either catch a whif of the magic or you don't. Very few, if any, of us in the great Novice wave of the '50s saw amateur radio as a vehicle for saving the world. We just wanted to work it!
About all we can really do is expose folks to amateur radio, and nurture interest where we find it. If this campaign does a bit of that, I'm all for it.
73,
Bill
KA3TGV
04-01-2006, 03:55 PM
Yeah KWW, I also noticed the bit about no telegraphy testing required for the entry-level Technician license. The League is being disingenuous on that subject, as elsewhere they are denigrating the Technician exam requirements as too onerous for high-schoolers and other entry level folk, all part of A.R.R.L.'s never-ending pursuit of a 4th license class. The League was unhappy with the reduction from 6 license classes to 3 back in 2000. Oh well.
On to the sublime. When I first read about the 'Hello...' campaign I couldn't help thinking about the Uncle Leo character from the "Seinfeld" television series. 'Jerry... HELLO'. Maybe they could have come up with something better, or maybe I just watch too much "Seinfeld".
Back to the serious. Some between the lines reading of the insert in the April 2006 QST leads me to believe that, in the aftermath of the RM-11306 fiasco and the hornet's nest of controversy that ensued, the A.R.R.L. is extending an olive branch of sorts to 'legacy mode' operators, particularly operators of the analog voice modes, in an attempt to quell some of the discontent existant with their core membership.
Time will tell.
73
Doug Burlew, KA3TGV
KD6NIG
04-01-2006, 06:04 PM
Isn't "Hello" what most people say when they answer a phone?
Maybe they are trying to target the cell phone crowd with this campaign?
Have yet to crack open my QST though I got it friday, but I saw that on the front. be interesting to see what kind of writeup they have going about it....
kf6rdn
04-01-2006, 06:57 PM
Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ April 01 2006,10:04)]Isn't "Hello" what most people say when they answer a phone?
Maybe they are trying to target the cell phone crowd with this campaign?
Have yet to crack open my QST though I got it friday, but I saw that on the front. #be interesting to see what kind of writeup they have going about it....
"Hello, World"
Maybe they are targetting would be programmers. That's the first thing alot of programming tutorials have you do. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
W2BBQ
04-01-2006, 07:23 PM
Hello Radio Program? Program? What program? I went to the website and clicked around and all it seemed to be was a small info blog about ham radio.
Where's the beef?
:rock:
K0RGR
04-01-2006, 07:54 PM
I think an ad campaign is a great idea. I heard the latest ARRL PSA on one of my local radio stations the other day in 'prime time' - and even though it was in the middle of Sean Hannity's daily hate-propaganda-fest, I was impressed. I hope they continue to spend whatever it takes to put those out.
Now, the 'Hello' site is a bit weak, at best. And I, too, am very troubled about what they say about Morse Code. I know this has been the standard PR line for over a decade, but still, it is a 'bait and switch' to tell people the code is not required anymore "for the entry license". People don't understand the limitations on that entry license at all! They do mention the code quite lovingly in a few places, and they're obviously trying to sell it, but I also find the response to the FAQ to be highly misleading - and I do think that has a lot to do with the loss of so many new Techs.
But, I hope 'Hello' is a work in progress that will give us a positive place to point newcomers.
w5alt
04-02-2006, 01:53 PM
Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ April 01 2006,14:04)]Isn't "Hello" what most people say when they answer a phone?
Maybe they are trying to target the cell phone crowd with this campaign?
It used to be. From what I gather, "Hello" is what young people say when someone has obviously said something idiotic and totally missed the mark.
I wonder why ARRL would choose that name?
73,
Walt, W5ALT
KC9ECI
04-02-2006, 01:56 PM
Hello? McFly?
N8CPA
04-02-2006, 02:39 PM
I thought they were misspelling HALO--an antenna frequently used for wireless internet applications.
wa3vjb
04-02-2006, 03:06 PM
Doug/KA3TGV, I looked at that link a couple of times, and I sure cannot find this anywhere between the lines --
Quote[/b] ]the A.R.R.L. is extending an olive branch of sorts to 'legacy mode' operators, particularly operators of the analog voice modes, in an attempt to quell some of the discontent existant with their core membership.
I don't find that sort of overture. Wish I could. Better that they would have expressed it to the FCC as an Act of Contrition in the aftermath of RM-11306, but that's another thread or two already.
Then again, the entire text of this PR campaign they have come up with is so poorly written that anyone could see anything in there, and also see nothing at all that gets their attention, which presumably is the point of their exercise.
Very bland, obscure, and ineffective.
The headline of such an effort should answer the question "What's in it for me?" given the nature of society. The ARRL in the third paragraph (after you've lost most people) weakly presents several activities, none of which are presented in a compelling fashion. We get a sense of "whatever" in the hodge-podge coughed up.
More effective might have been the idea of taking the potential ham's perspective, NOT the existing ham's area of interest.
Examples in the 30 seconds I sat and thought of it:
-- DO YOU LIKE TO TEXT MESSAGE?
-- LEARN HOW TO MP3 !
-- DO YOU BUILD YOUR OWN COMPUTER SYSTEM?
-- EVER WONDER HOW WI-FI WORKS?
-- WANT TO BUILD YOUR OWN SATELLITE RADIO?
Each of these taps a consumer novelty.
All can be "learned" with an equivalent in ham radio, with the knowledge and satisfaction transferring back to the person's consumer interest.
I hope the ARRL didn't pay much of your $39 subscription fee to the public relations firm that designed what they are rolling out.
"Hello, World, Hello World, this is AG3Y, looking for to talk with anyone, anywhere! Can you hear me now? "
Certainly NOT the kind of ham radio that I grew up on as a kid !
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73, Jim ( what the heck's a "73" ? )
w5alt
04-02-2006, 08:18 PM
Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ April 02 2006,11:54)]( what the heck's a "73" ? )
Well, 73 is either the 22nd prime number or Round[Pi*Exp(Pi)]
73,
Walt, W5ALT
Walt, your math skills are far above and beyond mine ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
7s and 3s and all them good numbers to you, good buddy ! Jim
wa6itf
04-03-2006, 08:03 AM
The "Hello" program is a good ideas -- as far as it goes. But -- and a very big "but" -- to make it work means reaching the world with very fancy media hype and advertising of the kind you see on the major TV networks during prime-time viewing hours. Flashy commercials hard selling ham radio as a "product" not unlike a bar of soap or a Lexus 330.
And that translates into spending 10's of millions of advertising dollars that does not exist in the ARRL or all of ham radio. Yet, in the reality of todays world where the only thing that truly sells is "instant gratification" -- there is no other way to meet the masses other than to spend the dollars.
Ham radios "Catch 22."
de
Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF
ke7ate
04-03-2006, 01:15 PM
I think getting more people involved in amateur radio is wonderful. For years operators have been trying to rekindle the hobby with the younger crowd. I love amateur radio radio experimentation and homebrewing my own equipment. However, when you have scum who treat others with disrespect on and off the radio. (and I can name a few, but I am too polite to do so) I don't understand why anyone would want to hang out with some of the losers that give the hobby a bad name.....(I got was chastised by some absolute creeps..ham radio operators no less for calling it HAM radio...I guess apologies are not good enough). You get one or two jerks in a crowd of really active and interested people and it can turn any new comers off in a second. Lets work on getting rid of the scum, creeps and the jerks and then more people will be interested in the hobby.
Yeah, right...Is this targeted at children?
Young girl tells her Mom that she found a web site that tells her to go to a club meeting and play chess with someone named Elmer...
Mom - Not now. I'm doing the taxes. Go ask your father.
Dad - You want to do WHAT? Who's at this club meeting?
Kid - Well, they don't use names. Just these like letters and numbers and stuff. I think it's a bunch of middle-age white guys that say Hello a lot... But it's OK Daddy - the website says that they want to be my friend.
Dad - Uh huh. I see. Where did you find out about this?
Kid - Uh. Well they had this empty space suit with a radio in it and our teacher said it was ham radio so I Googled ham radio and there was this website called QRZ.com and ...
Dad - Whoa. Ham radio? Are they still around? Forget it. I already pay for a cell phone and internet access and satellite TV for you and the homeowners association wouldn't allow it. Can't you find someone on the web to play chess with?
Kid - Well yeah but I want to talk to someone in Lithanium .. or someplace.
Dad - No.
Kid - And there might be an earthquake and ...
Dad - No.
ke7ate
04-03-2006, 01:23 PM
Clearly, the point is that parents today don't understand what amateur radio is about and how it can turn today's children on to things like science, and math. God forbid if some of our children ever wanted to become engineers and scientists someday...LOL, but it's the scarey ones that are already in the hobby that don't care about its future.....A.K.A. the scum...the creeps....and the jerks.
N5PVL
04-03-2006, 01:25 PM
KE7ATE suggests:
Quote[/b] ]
Lets work on getting rid of the scum, creeps and the jerks and then more people will be interested in the hobby.
Before we get rid of the ARRL, we need to start up a replacement organization.
nm5tf
04-03-2006, 03:37 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ April 01 2006,00:15)]The ARRL has a big push on to get new blood into Amateur Radio through its HELLO program. I have looked at the info and some is interesting and some not so interesting. However, the ARRL, is not being totally upfront about CW. True, when they say CW is no longer required for a Tech license but, they don't say that CW is still required to advance to General and Extra. Hmmmmmmmm wonder why!!!! All in all I found the HELLO Web Site to be so so. Yes I know the HELLO program is in an article in the current QST but how many non hams are going to buy QST or know about it, unless they have a friend that's a ham.
With that being said, what's your thoughts on the HELLO program?
ARRL HELLO Link (http://www.hello-radio.org/whatis.html)
I noticed a big pile of the HELLO pamphlets in our Visitor Center this morning...they showed up sometime this
weekend just in time for our Quarterly Open House...we'll see how long they last & if any interest is generated...
I usually check to see if any fellow hams show up at the V/C, and offer them a "special ham tour" that goes beyond what the general public gets to see...like a personal tour of the Control Building with an in-depth explanation of what they're seeing & and a tour of an antenna with a climb up inside the "dish" to check-out the feeds, etc....
If anyone on QRZ.com would like to avail themselves of this, an e-mail at least 2 days before you show up is all it
takes....
73 de Tom http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I once had a Sales VP tell me, "It's not the steak that sells, it's the sizzle!" To which I replied, "Rotten meat sizzles too...". The "Hello" campaign is a good looking/sounding sizzle plan with bad meat.
And I did notice the "you don't have to learn the code" part too. I appreciate what they are trying to do, but it simply highlights the impotence of our current officers. How about a plan to retain current amateurs? How about organized rag chews on 2m for Techs? How about an entry poll and an exit poll for amateurs so we can see WHY they became amateurs and see WHY they left? How about a plan to collect and repair old gear to get EVERY new amateur on the air?
But "hello" is easier when so many of ARRL members are saying "goodbye".
WA9SVD
04-03-2006, 04:15 PM
Quote[/b] (N5PVL @ April 03 2006,06:25)]KE7ATE suggests:
Quote[/b] ]
Lets work on getting rid of the scum, creeps and the jerks and then more people will be interested in the hobby.
Before we get rid of the ARRL, we need to start up a replacement organization.
With all due respect, isn't that the same as "reinventing the (square) wheel?" Or would it be faster and more efficient to change the ARRL from within, through membership and elections?
Of course, the problem there, with either the ARRL OR an alternative organization, is that it's often impossible to get more than one ham to agree on ANYTHING, much less how/why the Service should progress and what is and isn't for the good of Amateur Radio.
So you have those that want "high code," "no-code," Zip code, what have you; HOW can any organization please ALL of the people ALL of the time?
So no matter HOW you would structure or form an alternative organization, you would STILL have dissatisfied people. The ARRL is FAR from perfect. But I believe it's better to work WITH them, and change them from within, than to just complain, and have no voice in their decisions. Rightly or wrongly, they pay MUCH more attention to membership ideas than to anything non-mermbers have to say.
N5PVL
04-03-2006, 05:09 PM
There is no effective mechanism for changing the ARRL from within. In fact it specifically structured to make change from within highly unlikely.
If someone has convinced you that you will be able to change the ARRL from within, then you've been suckered.
k6pme
04-03-2006, 06:06 PM
Quote[/b] (ke7ate @ April 03 2006,06:23)]Clearly, the point is that parents today don't understand what amateur radio is about and how it can turn today's children on to things like science, and math. #
I've tried that angle on a few parents. Not one seemed to be interested in getting their kids actually ~interested~ in math or the sciences. They only seem to care that they get good grades and are participating in the proper 'in' sport.
It's all in how one 'looks' in the community. What a waste. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
First of all I have to question why we have to push ham radio down the public's throat. It seems to me if an 10 year kid living in the boonies was able to find out about ham radio and teach himself code, that in this wonder age of communications somebody can find thousands of hits on ham radio just on the internet. Second what really concerns me is how the powers that be are more into pushing ham radio as a way to get cheap email and keep in touch with your buddies, don't we already have GMRS for this? Don't think so check out the description of the book about maritime communications its all but saying don't spend big money on marine gear, when you can a ham license and use that. I think somebody better wake up before this service is ruined over memberships and gear sales. FWIW I just pinched myself so I know its not me sleeping
Quote[/b] ]Kinda what happened in the early 1990s. The ARRL promoted ham radio as being easier than ever to get into, and being a way to save the world. But what so many saw as "the real ham radio," that is, the big beams and the DX, was as out of reach as ever for the No Code Technician. And there just aren't enough emergencies to go around so every wannabe hero can save the world with an HT. The result was those folks were misled, and the majority of them quickly became inactive.
Ed is right on target as to why recruiting is a bad idea and should be avoided. I don't know what the future of the hobby, or the service of amateur radio is. However, I hope that it isn't 700,000 hams in the United States with 200,000 on the air (I don't know the numbers now on active hams, but I doubt that even half of the hams licensed are 'active'). I don't have a problem with striking interest among people, but we can't send a false image as to what radio is.
Let me tell a story about KE5AYJ, the AJ Moore Academy Amateur Radio Club. The organization was started by a teacher who wanted to bring amateur radio into the classroom. He had great support from the school and managed to get several students interested. Now the program is two years old and those several who got interested last year are no longer on the air. Why? Because amateur radio wasn't for them, they got interested because it was new, but then it got old for them and they moved on to other things.
How do we resolve this issue? We keep doing what we enjoy, and others who will enjoy it will pick up. We spend our resources to promote amateur radio, not recruit new amateurs. We work to get amateurs who dropped out back in by showing them things that they missed the first time. We encourage a vast knowledge of skills, and we don't drop morse code (at one time, I was all for dropping the code... it wasn't until I learned the code, and then even more so when I started using it on the air, that I realized we shouldn't get rid of it. Sure, it isn't my favorite mode, I don't use it very often, I have only made a few CW contacts.. however, I am glad that I know how to do it and am equipped for times when I want to) nor do we drop other modes. We need to keep the bands active, keep sharing knowledge, and I think if we follow these steps amateur radio will be here for me and the rest of us for years to come.
I have only been on the air now for about 5 years, but that doesn't mean I don't want to be on the air for another 50+ (assuming I won't die in the next 50 years). So lets hope there are people to talk with. Lets hope that there are people to meet with at the hamfests. Lets hope there are members to meet with at the club meetings. Lets hope there is a club. Lets hope there are hams lined up to help during the next disaster.
ae6yd
04-04-2006, 05:46 AM
I think there is a verifiable need to encourage people to look into amateur radio. The experimenters of today do not think of ham radio as something they would be interested in, as I've said before. The general public, for the most part, doesn't realize we even still exist. For your average school kid interested in science, ham radio isn't even on the radar. Computers dominate the attention span of the types of people who would be interested in amateur radio, simply because they are flashy and new. If we're lucky, the child in this example will see an ARISS contact, hear about ham radio through a teacher or parent, or something, but odds are he won't. That is where we, as a community, have to step in, show the experimenters of my generation and those that follow that we still exist, that we're still on the cutting edge, and that radio is still magical today.
I believe that, on three seperate occasions, members of the general public have commented to me with some variant of "Ham radio? Do people still do that?"
The ARRL "Hello" Campaign seems to be trying to say, "Yes, we still do, and you can too."
kg4kww
04-05-2006, 03:42 AM
Folks go back to page 1 of this thread to find out why more people are not interested in Ham radio. I think it's rather apparent to those who wish to aknoweldge what was said by several posters.
Yes the issue has been beaten into the ground, but the fact, that little or nothing has been about it by the powers that be, is not helping to attract new people into ham radio.
And hams who bully and berate Tech Class hams because they choose not to take code for what ever reasons, and then make them feel like outcasts, do nothing to help the hobby. They only cause these people to say the heck with and get out of the hobby.
Like it or not it's a fact.
I hope the program works, but the ARRL needs to clean up the error mentioned on page one of this thread about CW. They need to say it's still required for license upgrade.
KI6ADA
04-05-2006, 04:37 AM
Well I had gone to ACS(RACES) training last night. The interesting thing is the Chief Radio Officer is a Extra Class. On top of the 2 meter rigs and public service rigs was a pretty HF rig. the reason was justified after Katrina/Rita disasters. Ok what am I getting at here is the tax payers don't mind training volunteers to help assist public officials. The tax payers however will not pop the bill on an organization with fire truck chasers(ARES). I learned the difference between the two organizations. Its like performing CPR, not knowing were the hand placement and respiratory timing is needed. ARES is not going to provide liability insurance to a non ARRL member. ACS(RACES) will provide liability insurance at the disaster site and too and from your home.
Back to other ARRL activities; most children are being taught instant gratification from their parents. On top of health insurance and medical liability, parents are telling their kids they shouldn't be doctors or nurses, because you may be sued. Parents are telling kids that customer service, technical support is not rewarding and that they can be much more productive. Parents!!! By the time your children become Grandparents, the United States work force will be made up of outside employment agencies over seas. What are Americans going to do? go on welfare and sue overseas corporations for taking away all the jobs. Wake up young America!! What does this have to do with Amateur Radio? Well one day, we will have sold our band plans to an overseas corporation to handle our cell phones and wireless internet. Some of that is already happening. Our favorite top three radio companies are laughing at AMERICA. They can set whatever price on their products and stop building replacement parts for older models. They see that most large universities have gotten away from Electronic Theory and Engineering. American universities want us to learn how to click a mouse and sign on and off the internet. Where is this technology going? not in America BUBBA! Reading the posts about parents taking kids to soccer camp and dance lessons is ok, but our kids need to learn how cell phones work and how the inside of their computers work. All kids care about is the computer is hooked up to the internet and they can text message on the cell phone when they are watching MTV.
Radio has turned into a digital replacement from my dad's old Hallicrafter sitting over the top of the shop bench, plugged into a long wire. My nephew cannot figure why grandpa needs a wire for his radio? You get him started than he runs inside the house to take his PSP away from his sister. She than calls her mom and complains about her brother while talking on her cell phone, she is only 9 years old! We can beat this thread with a stick and still get frustrated of the lack of interest in young people. Grandpas and Uncles and Grandmas and Aunts, share your radio. Let them talk to a DX or a friend in another state over the airwaves. Put the headphones on so they can hear CW being sent from thousands a miles away over the water. Well we can keep this up. ARRL needs to open their public relations to the non ham public. The most important thing ARRL needs to do is don't place false hope in a young person that they can talk around the world with out passing an efficiency test. I am not going to get started on CW. Well anyway, if the ARRL wants to increase membership they need to get to the parents of the young people, through school activities and youth programs.
I am thinking renewing my membership if they(ARRL) can reach out beyond the active Ham community. I enjoy the books and news information, I just think 40 dollars a year for a magazine is alittle too much from a non profit organization. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif KI6ADA
kg4kww
04-07-2006, 02:55 AM
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kg4kww
04-08-2006, 02:40 AM
Click here to see, Hello - Now the Video! (http://www.arrl.org/video/VTS_01_01.wmv)
The 30 second video Public Service Announcement to accompany the Hello campaign is completed and ready for distribution.
A low resolution version is viewable on the web - but Allen Pitts warns, "It is NOT in any way a good representation of the actual video.
ARRL "Hello" Campaign Update (http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2006/04/06/2/?nc=1)
I think this should be the promotional video the ARRL should use!
http://www.hamband.com/html/video.html
(Click where it says here to download the video)
P.S. I hope you're not afraid of heights!
P.P.S You need Real Player to view it. There is a link on the above URL if you need it.
Scott NĜIU
kg4kww
04-08-2006, 08:25 PM
I agree this is a great video and much better that the ARRL video clip.
Many Thanks to Lisa and andrew for this wonderful video
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
kg4kww
04-08-2006, 09:51 PM
If you haven't seen this video check it out. This is what the ARRL Needs to use. Also, the need to clear up the misleading CW issue on the Hello web site.
Many Thanks to Lisa and andrew for this wonderful video
Come and join us on the air waves
http://64.27.98.24/clip.ram
kg4kww
04-09-2006, 05:03 PM
Like HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Did we lose our ability to tell the world about HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?
It's ok you can comment, it's really ok.
kg4kww
04-10-2006, 12:35 AM
Are you all commented out ?
K8ERV
04-10-2006, 02:18 PM
What is the Hello program?
TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
kg4kww
04-10-2006, 08:20 PM
Here's the link see for yourself. Do you agree with what they are saying about CW Tom (K8ERV)
ARRL HELLO Link (http://www.hello-radio.org/whatis.html)
kl7aj
04-10-2006, 08:58 PM
Well, I guess it's better than Goodbye
kg4kww
04-11-2006, 02:36 AM
kl7aj, have you seen this video (see link below)?
Many Thanks to Lisa and andrew for this wonderful video
Come and join us on the air waves
http://64.27.98.24/clip.ram
And lets not forget the ARRL HELLO Video.
Click here to see, Hello - Now the Video! (http://www.arrl.org/video/VTS_01_01.wmv)
Please tell us what you think? Inquiring minds want to know.
K8ERV
04-11-2006, 12:06 PM
Tnx for the link, I thot it might be a TV ad. I don't watch much TV. Too busy following
your comments!!!
TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
W3MIV
04-11-2006, 12:08 PM
Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ April 10 2006,15:58)]Well, I guess it's better than Goodbye
Not in KWW's eyes. He has a commercial interest in "good-byes!"
K8ERV
04-11-2006, 12:10 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ April 10 2006,13:20)][ Do you agree with what they are saying about CW Tom (K8ERV)
CW? Whot's that? Oh yeah, the noise made by a keyed spark gap. Did not read the Hello ad.
TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
W3MIV
04-11-2006, 12:15 PM
Who is CW Tom?
kg4kww
04-11-2006, 08:07 PM
TOM Montrose K8ERV --- Read the HELLO AD
k0cmh
04-11-2006, 08:15 PM
I don't think much of the Hello sound bit collection I play from the ARRL wb site.
For one thing, it sounded really hokey, and I'm not sure it will appeal to anyone.
For another, I don't see how it explains Ham radio at all.
Oh well, it may be that generation gap I am experiencing these days.
Times when "HELLO" does not work:
10. You see a small child alone
9. You're the keynote speaker at a deaf people convention
8. Your phone rings and your caller ID says "mother-in-law"
7. You're speaking to your cat.
6. You come home and see blood on the carpet
5. You come home and the milkman's truck is in the driveway
4. You just saw "Jason" in your closet
3. Your wife just made an obvious point
2. Your SSB linear amp is hooked to your ankles
And the #1 time "Hello" won't work:
1. You're trying to recruit young people into Amateur Radio