QRZ HF NET

[KE5FRF]

listening to a station talk for the past 15 minutes without unkeying...gives longwinded a new name.

[W3MIV]

The single biggest lesson I learned last night was the virtue of the 3-500.

Gordon was copyable even when pointing north, though he was just above the noise level. It's not that the noise was so bad in my location -- it was that the signals were so low. With the notable exceptions of Danny, Kevin and Gordon. I could hear Chuck and Mike (who took his kids to the movies), though neither was loud, and had a very weak copy on Randy when he was in there.

When Simeon was talking to Gordon, I could tell that there was a QSO, but he was too faint to copy. Also the signals from CO, ME, IN and PA were too faint for me to copy. Heard Heath at one point, but very very low. Part of it, I guess, is my "shooter's ears," the legacy of some fifty years with a gun (and not always ear protection).

Lesson learned. Just put an AL80B on the grocery list. Were it not for the coming ides of April (IRS SOBS), I would give GiggleParts a call tomorrow.

Fun net. Hope we can regularize it to a weekly meet or some such so that it does lose its appeal by too frequent meets.

TU everybody for the effort.

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[ai4ep]

...so now it is Sunday April 2, 2006

what frequencies at what times could there be a net today ??

[N1MLF]

I'm on line & willing to try from a 100 watt sta in Maine... pick a freq 40, 20, 17, or 15M

..ya never know till ya try...

JW

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ April 02 2006,04:52)]The single biggest lesson I learned last night was the virtue of the 3-500.
http://oldtube.com/Amperex3-500Z.jpg

The AL-82 amp has a pair of these muthers hooked up to a monster power supply. #1500 watts key down all day and all night. #Fire them up and the Radio Ranch is on the air from deep in the heart of Texas. The tubes are gorgeous when loaded up.



WA5KRP
Texas

[N6WK]

Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ April 02 2006,19:19)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ April 02 2006,04:52)]The single biggest lesson I learned last night was the virtue of the 3-500.
http://oldtube.com/Amperex3-500Z.jpg

The AL-82 amp has a pair of these muthers hooked up to a monster power supply. 1500 watts key down all day and all night. Fire them up and the Radio Ranch is on the air from deep in the heart of Texas. The tubes are gorgeous when loaded up.



WA5KRP
Texas
Danno,
They sure are pretty to look at.


Gordon

[W3MIV]

Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ April 02 2006,13:19)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ April 02 2006,04:52)]The single biggest lesson I learned last night was the virtue of the 3-500.
http://oldtube.com/Amperex3-500Z.jpg

The AL-82 amp has a pair of these muthers hooked up to a monster power supply. #1500 watts key down all day and all night. #Fire them up and the Radio Ranch is on the air from deep in the heart of Texas. #The tubes are gorgeous when loaded up.



WA5KRP
Texas
I'll settle for just one of those jugs. Don't want to have to run a 240v line to feed a pair.

However, with both me and the missus on the self-employment support-your-government-at-all-costs plan, we gotta come up with beaucoup bux on the fifteenth -- so I will wait a few weeks longer.

But the plan is in the on-deck circle: One AL-80B.

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Maybe I can holler at Robert on 3910...

[N6WK]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ April 02 2006,21:01)]Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ April 02 2006,13:19)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ April 02 2006,04:52)]The single biggest lesson I learned last night was the virtue of the 3-500.
http://oldtube.com/Amperex3-500Z.jpg


Texas
I'll settle for just one of those jugs. Don't want to have to run a 240v line to feed a pair.

However, with both me and the missus on the self-employment support-your-government-at-all-costs plan, we gotta come up with beaucoup bux on the fifteenth -- so I will wait a few weeks longer.

But the plan is in the on-deck circle: One AL-80B.

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Maybe I can holler at Robert on 3910...
Albert, I'm just using the Ameritron 811 Amp. It seems to work Very Well. I should have spent the extra and gotten the 811H, But I was being Cheap.
I sure hope the Kilowatt I ordered finds its way here.
It is Lost In the Mail somewhere... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Oh Well, The Antenna seems to help make up for the few hundred watts I don't have
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Maybe I'll see you guys all later today.

Gordon

[KB5WX]

Gordon ,

I'm also running the AL-811 using a triple set of 572b's . My plate voltage is running at 1.9kv at idle and that , with the 572b's gives me about 800 watts or a little over . My antenna is a 80m loop at about 30 - 35 ft . All in all it seems to work fairly well . And , I'm listening on 14.325 right now .

[ai4ep]

...you mean it is taking you folks 400 - 600 watts to talk to the same places I have been talking to on less than 60 ?

geez...

[N6WK]

Guess So. Randy and I and Albert are talking on 14.325 right now.
Bands rough, but getting better.

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ April 02 2006,07:29)]Guess So. Randy and I and Albert are talking on 14.325 right now.
Bands rough, but getting better.
swing it north http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KB3LIX]

I have been prowling/lurking on 20 all afternoon, and never heard you guys.

Figures !

That's the story of my life......

A day Late
and a Dollar short !

[VE7NOT]

MY HF propgation software shows alabama and most of the se us in my fringe. Cali-Alaska and Mexico are in my line. I can hear randy is there but with s-3 noise on 20m today it's useless.


The strongest spots shown on it is the Pacific south of califonia. The Isla islands have any hams? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Jeff goldblum might stumble on me since he was on the 'wrong frequency' -Jurassic Park II

[KB5WX]

Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ April 02 2006,15:47)]I have been prowling/lurking on 20 all afternoon, and never heard you guys.

Figures !

That's the story of my life......

# # # # # #A day Late
# # # # # # # # # and a Dollar short !
We are on 14.325 right now . Jump in and get your feet wet ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W1SK]

Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ April 02 2006,15:53)]MY HF propgation software shows alabama and most of the se us in my fringe. Cali-Alaska and Mexico are in my line. I can hear randy is there but with s-3 noise on 20m today it's useless.


The strongest spots shown on it is the Pacific south of califonia. The Isla islands have any hams? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Jeff goldblum might stumble on me since he was on the 'wrong frequency' -Jurassic Park II
What are you using for propagation software? Sounds interesting.



73,
Joe

[KB3LIX]

Randy,

Don't hear squat here. Just noise.

And, to add insult to injury,
There is a spanish speaking station on 14.316 and he is SPLATTERING all the way to 14.330 and above.
I should fire up the spectrum analyzer and see just how W I D E he is.


He just got WORSE !
Must have retuned his amp.

[KB5WX]

Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ April 02 2006,15:58)]Randy,

Don't hear squat here. Just noise.
I just hate it when that happens ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KB5WX]

Bad as I hate to check out early , I'm gonna have to pull the plug . I have a lot of family kind of stuff to take care of tonight .

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (W1SK @ April 02 2006,07:56)]Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ April 02 2006,15:53)]MY HF propgation software shows alabama and most of the se us in my fringe. Cali-Alaska and Mexico are in my line. I can hear randy is there but with s-3 noise on 20m today it's useless.


The strongest spots shown on it is the Pacific south of califonia. The Isla islands have any hams? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif Jeff goldblum might stumble on me since he was on the 'wrong frequency' -Jurassic Park II
What are you using for propagation software? Sounds interesting.



73,
Joe
Here (http://www.g4ilo.com/)

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[W3MIV]

It ain't happenin' at the moment.

I will check again later to see if things are improved, but right now all I hear with any copyability is Gordon and his magical beam (which works gangbusters).

73

[N6WK]

I checked out at 23:12 Z for about an hour or so. Conditions are Marginal at best.
I will try again at 00:00 Zulu
Thanks To Albert for hanging in there as I could barely copy him today. Perhaps later it will get better. Thanks Albert !
Sim, VE7NOT , had a Great Signal when I swung the Beam North. He was easily S9 or above then.

73,
Gordon

[ai4ep]

What ? !!

No net tonight on any band ?

Geez....what IS this world coming to ?

Nope, no need in mentioning ME to be a net control...nope. I did my share doing the Skywarn Net during tornado watches during the 1990 s with these wacky yahoos who would key up and say " it is raining here "..or " oh me, the wind is blowing ". Then you had the folks that wanted a personalized weather forecast because they were " grilling outside and " did not have enough sense to look up at the clouds coming their way .

Sure this was on 2 meters ( where else ) fm with 440 links through out north Alabama...but I did my share and more.

So AI4EP aint gonna be no net control . Nope...but YOU can.

go for it. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[AC0H]

I had/have some bad boomers stomping through the neighborhood right now. Two tornado warnings in 3 days. If the airborn electricity subsides I may try 40m later.

[KB3LIX]

I shut down on 20, seems like some of the
Knuckleheads have surfaced.

The VE7 looney-toons on 14.275 having a conversation with a US callsign that doesn't exist.

Someone on .316 splattering 15-20 kc.
Same thing with .335

Makes my ears hurt.

EDIT:
Just to be accurate, looks like the US callsign might be legit.
First several times the Canadian said it, it came out as a 2x3 US call beginning with an "A". Which, to my limited knowledge do not exist.

Now, its a 2x2 beginning with an "A". Much more believable.

[ai4ep]

LIX...what do you expect ?

Obviously the FCC & ARRL do not care.

You can use your computer and order you a radio / antenna / matcher / etc with no call sign asked by any one.

Then come to the same computer and swipe some one elses call sign ( yours or mine ) or just make up one that sounds real or cute and go " on-the-air " .

Then when the thrill is gone, re - sell it on e - bay and make your money back ( or more ).

3 months later the FCC shows up at the home, no evidence of an amateur station is there ( been sold on e - bay ) so no charges are filed...little or no evidence.

[KB3LIX]

Hey Sim,

I just downloaded HFProp.
Looks interesting. Have to try it out to see if its anywhere near accurate.
Thanx for link

[XV2PS]

what interresting with this software is it does not tell you when it will go through (this is my analyze, not their statement), but it tells you when you have about no chane to go through. It gives also a good idea about prop. You also have a good azimuthal map (beamings).

[W0LPQ]

Boomers, lightning and tornado watches. Shut it down.

Bill, WØLPQ

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ April 02 2006,09:13)]Hey Sim,

I just downloaded HFProp.
Looks interesting. Have to try it out to see if its anywhere near accurate.
Thanx for link
yw ... not sure only had it 3 days or so. It's hard with different antennas I need to set the gain. My antron 99 is a medium to low antenna for 20m and showed s-5 from socal... yet when Gordan moved his beam north we hit each other at s-9. Of course his beam did the work http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[ai4ep]

and I just dont understand all this talk about the amplifiers....here I am with 50 - 60 watts talking to the same folks that others need 200 - 900 watts to talk to .

Why is that ?

and I am using one of those " sorry - no good - for - nothing - cheap - g5rv antennas, " no hollow metal tubing up in the air, no beam antenna, nothing but a simple old g5rv and talking to the same folks ( and they are talking back --- too ) with 50 - 60 watts .

Why spend all THAT money on amplifiers when all you need is at least one ( or more ) good antennas ? Amplifiers use electricity ( higher electric bill ). Beam antennas use electricity also, but not half as much, nor as often ( for the rotor )...so a g5rv or a di pole antenna wouldnt use ANY electricity ( higher electric bill ) or need any size of rotor.

Plus less chance of tvi when not using an amplifier.

So some of you folks remind me of CB operators ---on base stations --- could not use an ordinary ground plane antenna to talk to your buddy 5 miles away, just HAD to have a beam antenna and a 500 watt linear amplifier kicker...because you could. Then half the time you have to call him on the telephone ( or use the internet ) to tell him to meet you on a certain channel ( frequency ) at a certain time to talk.

...just glorified cb operators with an amateur call sign...

then some of you folks wonder why the FCC thinks / acts like they do.

[N6WK]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 03 2006,03:29)]and I just dont understand all this talk about the amplifiers....here I am with 50 - 60 watts talking to the same folks that others need 200 - 900 watts to talk to .

Why is that ?

and I am using one of those " sorry - no good - for - nothing - cheap - g5rv antennas, " no hollow metal tubing up in the air, no beam antenna, nothing but a simple old g5rv and talking to the same folks ( and they are talking back --- too ) with 50 - 60 watts .

Why spend all THAT money on amplifiers when all you need is at least one ( or more ) good antennas ? Amplifiers use electricity ( higher electric bill ). Beam antennas use electricity also, but not half as much, nor as often ( for the rotor )...so a g5rv or a di pole antenna wouldnt use ANY electricity ( higher electric bill ) or need any size of rotor.

Plus less chance of tvi when not using an amplifier.

So some of you folks remind me of CB operators ---on base stations --- could not use an ordinary ground plane antenna to talk to your buddy 5 miles away, just HAD to have a beam antenna and a 500 watt linear amplifier kicker...because you could. Then half the time you have to call him on the telephone ( or use the internet ) to tell him to meet you on a certain channel ( frequency ) at a certain time to talk.

...just glorified cb operators with an amateur call sign...

then some of you folks wonder why the FCC thinks / acts like they do.
Ok, Next time around...You be the Net Control.

It Seems your Antenna works great to you.
That is Wonderful.
So Tomorrow, (Monday) you are Net Control at 23:00Zulu on 14.325.
I'll bet 50 - 60 watts and a g5rv doesn't cut it ! Heck, I hope I can hear you above the Noise level, but I'll give you benefit of the Doubt and try !

Of course, If you need the Guy with the BEAM and The AMP to relay for you, I'll expect some help on the Electric bill from you !!


Gordon

[ai4ep]

I did my share of being net control back in the 1990 s on 2 meter fm repeaters with the Skywarn Emergency Net ( with 440 links ).

When you have to deal with the charades of folks keying up the repeaters with statements like " it is raining here " -- or " hey, the wind is blowing " or wanting personalized weather forecasts for their evening back door grillout. All they had to do is look in the sky to see the storm clouds coming.

So, thank you, but no thanks.

I problably will NOT be heard by folks now that every one knows/ thinks I will only be transmitting about 50 - 60 watts...but...I have already " made the trip " in the past. So I know that IF the Control Operator really wants to hear me or any other station not putting a " s - 9 +60 db "reading on the signal meter, he problably CAN.

Most of you can hear just what you WANT to hear. If the ambition / glory is there, a 5 watt signal ( or less ) can and has made the trip in the past.

But the key question is --- if I ( or others ) try to check in any net...are they running only 10 watts or 1000 ? Can the recieving station tell the difference ?

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] ] (ai4ep @ April 02 2006,20:29)
So some of you folks remind me of #CB operators...just glorified cb operators with an amateur call sign...

then some of you folks wonder why the FCC thinks / acts like they do.

You damn sure nailed my butt! #HOWDJAKNOW? #Did you see I used a G5RV in my bio?




WA5KRP
Texas

[KE5FRF]

Thanks for the propogation and S-meter check on 80 meters Danno.

Well, I now have LIMITED 80 meter capability, as it seems, because as I rolled through the phone bands, all I heard were 5 and 4 calls, but at least when 20 meters is overshooting certain station, I now can establish contact on 80.

Sorry guys for not being in on the NETS this weekend. I had a lot of things going on, but I WILL be participating this week, and hopefully next weekend a little bit.

Thanks for keeping it up, fellows, don't let this thing fizzle out!

[KB3LIX]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 02 2006,19:07)]LIX...what do you expect ?

Obviously the FCC & ARRL do not care.
Let us have a quick review,

Point # 1,
The VE7 is in British Columbia, that is in the Dominion of Canada, NOT under control of, nor licensed by the Federal Communications Commission.

Point # 2,
The last time I looked the ARRL had NO licensing or rule enforcement authority. In the United States of America, the Federal Communications Commission is charged with enforcement of the rules & regulations as codified, not the ARRL.
Now this may have been changed whilst I was sleeping last night, but I have not heard that was the case.

Point # 3,
The Spanish speaking station on 14.316 was conversing in SPANISH to several other amateur stations also speaking Spanish. Now, call me crazy, but I doubt they were in the United States. Most likely, they were in Central or South America. Again, not under the jurisdiction of the Federal Communications Commission.

Point # 4, and lastly
The last station, on 14.335 was in Jamaica. I know this because I recognized his voice and have worked him in the past. I know that he runs 2.5 kW out of his amplifier as he has stated MANY times in the past.

Jamaica, an island in the Caribbean, I don't know what the regulation body for the island is called, but it is NOT under the licensing jurisdiction of the Federal Communications Commission.


So,
Just where does the FCC or ARRL not caring fit into this scenario ?


I just LOVE how the FCC and/or the ARRL are always to blame for EVERYTHING.

I sometimes get a burning sensation in my stomach, Is that the FCC & ARRL fault too ?

[N6WK]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 03 2006,04:16)]I did my share of being net control back in the 1990 s on 2 meter fm repeaters with the Skywarn Emergency Net ( with 440 links ).

When you have to deal with the charades of folks keying up the repeaters with statements like " it is raining here " -- or " hey, the wind is blowing " or wanting personalized weather forecasts for their evening back door grillout. All they had to do is look in the sky to see the storm clouds coming.

So, thank you, but no thanks.

I problably will NOT be heard by folks now that every one knows/ thinks I will only be transmitting about 50 - 60 watts...but...I have already " made the trip " in the past. So I know that IF the Control Operator really wants to hear me or any other station not putting a " s - 9 +60 db "reading on the signal meter, he problably CAN.

Most of you can hear just what you WANT to hear. If the ambition / glory is there, a 5 watt signal ( or less ) can and has made the trip in the past.

But the key question is --- if I ( or others ) try to check in any net...are they running only 10 watts or 1000 ? Can the recieving station tell the difference ?
Ok, I'll say this ONCE, just for you.
If I CAN hear you, I will acknowlege you.
If I can NOT hear you, then you are NOT there as far as My radio and I are concerned.
I have to ask this.." Do you think everyone is out to be against you?"
I am really trying to figure you out.
You check in, I hear and check you in, then later you go off on this thing about secret emails and stuff!
Please tell me what in heck is going on in your world, cause I do NOT do Cryptic very well !

I am not concerned about SkyWarn, because I don't need to be warned about the sky!


Gordon
N6WK

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ April 02 2006,12:58)]The VE7 is in British Columbia, that is in the Dominion of Canada, NOT under control of, nor licensed by the Federal Communications Commission.
And VA7 Too. Truthfully i admit... bc has some strange ops

[KB3LIX]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ April 02 2006,23:05)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 03 2006,04:16)]I did my share of being net control back in the 1990 s on 2 meter fm repeaters with the Skywarn Emergency Net ( with 440 links ).

When you have to deal with the charades of folks keying up the repeaters with statements like " it is raining here " #-- or " hey, the wind is blowing " or wanting personalized weather forecasts for their evening back door grillout. All they had to do is look in the sky to see the storm clouds coming.

So, thank you, but no thanks.

I problably will NOT be heard by folks now that every one knows/ thinks #I will only be transmitting about 50 - 60 watts...but...I have already " made the trip " #in the past. #So I know that IF the Control Operator really wants to hear me or any other station not putting a " s - 9 +60 db "reading on the signal meter, he problably CAN.

Most of you can hear just what you WANT to hear. #If the ambition / glory is there, a 5 watt signal ( or less ) can and has made the trip in the past.

But the key question is --- if I ( or others ) try to check in any net...are they running only 10 watts or 1000 ? #Can the recieving station tell the difference ?
Ok, I'll say this ONCE, just for you.
#If I CAN hear you, I will acknowlege you.
If I can NOT hear you, then you are NOT there as far as My radio and I are concerned.
I have to ask this.." Do you think everyone is out to be against you?"
I am really trying to figure you out.
You check in, I hear and check you in, then later you go off on this thing about secret emails and stuff!
Please tell me what in heck is going on in your world, cause I do NOT do Cryptic very well !

I am not concerned about SkyWarn, because I don't need to be warned about the sky!


Gordon
N6WK
Paging Doctor Howard, Doctor Fine, Doctor Howard ?

My dear doctors,


Can you write an Rx for out friend EP ?

[ai4ep]

I just see no need in transmitting more rf power, when a more efficient antenna system is far cheaper- both short term & long term ; plus a lot less chance of TVI ( both reported and not reported at that moment ). Arent licensed amateur radio operators allowed to experiment with antennas, to provide the best antenna systems available at that particular location, which may or may not work as well elsewhere ? ...or are we supposed to fork over (x) amount of dollars to buy an amplifer since it is easier to do ?

I hear far more folks talking about their newest amplifier or the repair of an older amplifier than I do of folks experimenting with antennas...whether it be di poles, verticals, or even beams.

It appears that amplifiers are the "easy " way to have a signal that allows any one to " keep up with the jones " without all that antenna work....at least on hf.

It sounds so much " cb-ish ".

But aint THAT what we all wanted --- easier rules ? Look what we have become. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 02 2006,22:59)]It appears that amplifiers are the "easy " way to have a signal that allows any one to " keep up with the jones " without all that antenna work....at least on hf.

It sounds so much " cb-ish ".
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WA5KRP
Texas

[VE7NOT]

way to go. I run 100 watts cause that all i care to spend on radio stuff. So be it. Gordan did the extra work with his beam pulling me out..a good day?..probably wouldn't need the beam and I might copt others. Hey I almost copied 2 of you but I have a high noise level today. Running 100 watts or so with a small vertical.

[ai4ep]

...contest time !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[XV2PS]

Anybody on there this monday 1230Z? 14325 is it right?
Yesterday same hour I was 59+30 on the east coast with a huge crowd hanging on http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[W3MIV]

Since I am in a generous mode this morning, Robert, I shall attempt to elucidate the impetus of this "amplifier" issue in terms you may find enlightening.

Were one to engage in an interesting discussion, which for our purposes we call a "QSO," and the noise levels on the subject band at the time of this QSO render two-way communication difficult, the potential for disappointment and disillusion wax proportionate to the sum of the noise compounded by the aggravation felt at each end of the disrupted discourse. This aggravation factor is exacerbated by the phenomenon that results when the signal level intermixes precisely at the crest of the noise levels.

Therefore, the introduction of an ameliorative element into the equation might offer an efficacious path to better comprehension and consequent reduction of the frustration. In the present case, a few dB gain long have been shown to be the most efficient amelioration. This gain is most rapidly acquired through the use of "heat," a term you wil no doubt find familiar.

OK?

[AC0H]

Quote[/b] ]I hear far more folks talking about their newest amplifier or the repair of an older amplifier than I do of folks experimenting with antennas...whether it be di poles, verticals, or even beams.

It appears that amplifiers are the "easy " way to have a signal that allows any one to " keep up with the jones " without all that antenna work....at least on hf.

I am sure that if Gordon didn't think he'd need the amp to be heard by you and others with marginal antennas that he'd keep it off. He has a pretty decent antenna for 20-10m, way better than a G5RV so I don't know what more you could expect.

Being net control means you have to do what you have to do to be heard. It's a sure bet he's not going to change his antenna situation quickly so the afterburner gets used.

This really isn't anything to get your panties in a twist over.

[AC0H]

Quote[/b] ]Since I am in a generous mode this morning, Robert, I shall attempt to elucidate the impetus of this "amplifier" issue in terms you may find enlightening.

Were one to engage in an interesting discussion, which for our purposes we call a "QSO," and the noise levels on the subject band at the time of this QSO render two-way communication difficult, the potential for disappointment and disillusion wax proportionate to the sum of the noise compounded by the aggravation felt at each end of the disrupted discourse. This aggravation factor is exacerbated by the phenomenon that results when the signal level intermixes precisely at the crest of the noise levels.

Therefore, the introduction of an ameliorative element into the equation might offer an efficacious path to better comprehension and consequent reduction of the frustration. In the present case, a few dB gain long have been shown to be the most efficient amelioration. This gain is most rapidly acquired through the use of "heat," a term you wil no doubt find familiar.

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OK, that was just.........bloviatious.

[KB5WX]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ April 03 2006,04:20)]Since I am in a generous mode this morning, Robert, I shall attempt to elucidate the impetus of this "amplifier" issue in terms you may find enlightening.

Were one to engage in an interesting discussion, which for our purposes we call a "QSO," and the noise levels on the subject band at the time of this QSO render two-way communication difficult, the potential for disappointment and disillusion wax proportionate to the sum of the noise compounded by the aggravation felt at each end of the disrupted discourse. This aggravation factor is exacerbated by the phenomenon that results when the signal level intermixes precisely at the crest of the noise levels.

Therefore, the introduction of an ameliorative element into the equation might offer an efficacious path to better comprehension and consequent reduction of the frustration. In the present case, a few dB gain long have been shown to be the most efficient amelioration. This gain is most rapidly acquired through the use of "heat," a term you wil no doubt find familiar.

OK?
Looks to me like Albert , just went into " Howard Cosell " mode . http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ke4pjw]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 02 2006,13:29)]and I just dont understand all this talk about the amplifiers....here I am with 50 - 60 watts talking to the same folks that others need 200 - 900 watts to talk to .

#Why is that ?
Well, let me see if I can put it in terms you can understand.

The difference between 100 watts and 1000 watts is um, 10dB

An S-Unit** is 6dB, therefore the KW buys you almost two whole S-Units.

A difference in antenna orientation or propagation can be the difference in 10dB or about 2 S-Units very easily.


**Yes Yes, I know, they don't really use that anymore on modern rigs, etc. I use the term S-Unit as a reference Bobby is probably most familiar with.

[KE5FRF]

Well, folks, I'm not sure how to proceed with 2nite. 40 meters is not a good band in the evening for the net, and I don't think many of you heard my signal on 20 meters, so I don't think I would be effective at Net control.

I am here to do what I can and most certainly will participate. You guys let ME know how I can help, and I'll be there.

[AK7V]

OK, one of these days I'll get a real antenna and a non-QRP radio and grace you with my presence. #You are all making me jealous - I want in on the fun! #My K1 doesn't tune high enough to hear you guys on SSB.

My QRZ'ers QSO tally so far is 2: al2i and ka5s. #I've heard WB2WIK and Gordon, but no QSO yet.

I did work two new countries (at 5 watts) this weekend on 20m - DF2 and DU3. #That was fun.

[KE5FRF]

I just finished going back through the last couple of pages on this thread.

Bobby, this whole QRZ net thing was really supposed to be a way to get together in a good spirit. I think everyone participating simply wants a chance to say hello to one another and carry on some nice QSOs. I don't know why, but it seems to me that you are dead set on disrupting that and picking arguements and fights. I really can't for the life of me figure out why you would want to do that?

Maybe I was naive to think this, but I really thought that everyone interested in checking into the net would bite their tongue and not stir up a hornets nest. So far, everyone has been able to do that except you. Now, the other night we carried on a quite friendly QSO after the "first" NET on 40 meters. I know you are a good fellow. Can I ask you to do me a favor and please keep the negativity AWAY from the NET activities, and perhaps dump it all on some of the other QRZ threads where it is more expected? I mean, if a person is in a bad mood or in the mood to pick a fight, there is plenty of room here on QRZ.com to find a debate. I SINCERELY think the NET activities should be the last bastion where QRZ members can go without putting up with it.

PLEASE, I ask you from one decent guy to another, please do not contribute to degenerating this whole idea and causing it to fail.

Thanks for reading this with an open mind. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

73, FRF

[KI4CIA]

Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ April 03 2006,08:25)]Well, folks, I'm not sure how to proceed with 2nite. 40 meters is not a good band in the evening for the net, and I don't think many of you heard my signal on 20 meters, so I don't think I would be effective at Net control.

I am here to do what I can and most certainly will participate. You guys let ME know how I can help, and I'll be there.
Heath - I can hear you just fine on 40 meters, not sure what everyone else's problem is, maybe they just need to clean the wax out of their ears. (just kidding fellas)


I hope Gordon and Danny continue with the 20 meter net as well.

And ...

Someone mentioned 75 meters - how about 3.965 sometime after 7:30 central. There is a net from 6:30 - 7:30 or so each night, then on Tuesday nights there's a net from 7:30 to about 8:00 or so. (sometime after 0030 zulu or 0100 zulu).

Sometimes some of the guys hang around after the net and ragchew, so not sure how that will work (Saturday nights and Wednesday nights seem kind like the least busiest nights).

I doubt this would help the west coast any, but would give the east coast a chance to talk, if the conditions are good.

And for a CW net/roundtable, 3702 after 9 central - 0200? And/or 14125 on Saturday or Sunday afternoons? I can NCS this weekend but will need someone on the west coast to help (Gordon?) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Just tossing some other options out there http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KE5FRF]

Melinda, I suggest that if you want to try a CW net, set a time, date, and a possible frequency and stick to it, that is how everyone got motivated to try the SSB net.

If you decide on a time/date/frequency, I suggest you post it on your signature, the way I advertised the other net.

And Gordon, Danny...I think you guys are doing great and definately need to keep up the 20 meter thing. ZI suggest if you guys want to keep that going too, that you basically do the same thing, and amend your signature block with a definate schedule.

I'll be happy to help and be NCS too, but I don't know how effective I would be.

anybody who wants to discuss details about anything please feel free to PM me or send me an EMAIL.

73, FRF

[kf6rdn]

Suggestion - When you mention time, use "Zulu" or UTC to keep the time straight. 'specially since the daylight savings just kicked in, and there's a couple of states that dont use it.

I haven't looked at the weekends worth of posts, just going by Fri'd 40 meter net, but 7.275 seemed the nosiest spot on the band boh qrm/qrn and ongoing qsos. I find lower is quieter, at least here. like 7.235 or so.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ April 02 2006,19:01)]Of course, If you need the Guy with the BEAM and The AMP to relay for you, I'll expect some help on the Electric bill from you !!


Gordon
LMAO #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Methinks 'ep has eaten a rabid possum.Quote[/b] ]I am not concerned about SkyWarn, because I don't need to be warned about the sky!
Even if it's falling? ? ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[N6WK]

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ April 03 2006,18:09)]Quote[/b] ]I am not concerned about SkyWarn, because I don't need to be warned about the sky!
Even if it's falling? ? ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
My point was, out here, we have to worry about the Ground...Shaking....Not so much the sky http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Just a little humor

Gordon

[KE5FRF]

I just got off the phone with my Mother in Tennessee (EASTERN)....she said that Nashville and west of it got a lot of torn-aiders (tornados for you non-hillbilly types)...I wonder if skywarn helped out with that?

[ke4pjw]

Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ April 03 2006,04:42)]I just got off the phone with my Mother in Tennessee (EASTERN)....she said that Nashville and west of it got a lot of torn-aiders (tornados for you non-hillbilly types)...I wonder if skywarn helped out with that?
I do know that K4OHX (http://www.qrz.com/database?callsign=K4OHX) was activated, however, I didn't monitor very long. There was not much wind/rain in Davidson County (Nashville), that I know of.

[VE7NOT]

I'm in line according to the software for the southern us right now. Let's start up

[kj3n]

Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ April 03 2006,11:20)]I don't know why, but it seems to me that you are dead set on disrupting that and picking arguements and fights. I really can't for the life of me figure out why you would want to do that?
Because that's how he gets his kicks. I believe I pointed that out earlier in the thread.

Quote[/b] ]Maybe I was naive to think this, ...

When it comes to EP, yes, you were.

Quote[/b] ]...but I really thought that everyone interested in checking into the net would bite their tongue and not stir up a hornets nest. So far, everyone has been able to do that except you.

Bob's not happy unless he's the center of attention. He does this by peeing in as many "pools" (threads, in this case) as he can.

You'll notice that he seems to get "offended" very easily and starts whining until someone pays him some more attention by explaining that he's over-reacting (again). This is how he keeps the focus on him.

Quote[/b] ]PLEASE, I ask you from one decent guy to another, please do not contribute to degenerating this whole idea and causing it to fail.

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

Quote[/b] ]Thanks for reading this with an open mind. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Boy, now there's an assumption..... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ April 03 2006,10:20)]Bobby, this whole QRZ net thing was really supposed to be a way to get together in a good spirit. I think everyone participating simply wants a chance to say hello to one another and carry on some nice QSOs. I don't know why, but it seems to me that you are dead set on disrupting that and picking arguements and fights. I really can't for the life of me figure out why you would want to do that?
Quit wasting your time and move on. N3JJA laid it all out perfectly.



WA5KRP
Texas

[N6WK]

Danno,
You going to come out and play today?

Gordon

[WA5KRP]

I'm a questionable starter. I'm grilling chicken tonight and I'm not sure when the ol' lady wants to eat. With a little luck, I hope to be out around 00:00Z on 20M - if the band cooperates. I'll check back in here to see where ya'll wanna land.



WA5KRP
Texas

[VE7NOT]

Same here. I'll tune it out and start running around at 2350z

[al2i]

I am up at latitude 70 N but I'll be listening anyway.

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (AK7V @ April 03 2006,09:01)]OK, one of these days I'll get a real antenna and a non-QRP radio and grace you with my presence. You are all making me jealous - I want in on the fun! My K1 doesn't tune high enough to hear you guys on SSB.

My QRZ'ers QSO tally so far is 2: al2i and ka5s. I've heard WB2WIK and Gordon, but no QSO yet.

I did work two new countries (at 5 watts) this weekend on 20m - DF2 and DU3. That was fun.
For sheer distance you did good OM, as I worked you from the Arctic. That was just shy of 2,000 miles.

[ab8ma]

Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ April 03 2006,21:51)]Same here. #I'll tune it out and start running around at 2350z
You guys are all in the wrong timezone. I mean just WRONG.

And for your information, Michigan has always been an 8. I am proud of being in Michigan and signing AB8MA. Where the else would I be?

[ab8ma]

So. What does a moderator on this site make?

[AK7V]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ April 03 2006,15:37)]For sheer distance you did good OM, as I worked you from the #Arctic. #That was just shy of 2,000 miles.
Yep, when it works, it works. I've got a decent shot to Alaska on 20m, it seems. Often the loudest signals on the band are from up there.

[N6WK]

i'm on 14.325 now at 23:32 z

[VE7NOT]

I'll be hooked up in 2 minutes

[ab8ma]

AB8MA listingnfg

[ab8ma]

Where is n6wk?

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 03 2006,16:38)]Where is n6wk?
Here's there. I'm listening too

[KE5FRF]

OK, I'm tuned up and ready to say hello.

I can hear N6WK, and nobody else right now.

maybe I can jump in to say "howdy"

[WA5KRP]

We've got thunderstorms in the area. My antennas are disconnected.


WA5KRP
Texas

[KE5FRF]

Sim, Heath here.

I am wondering if you heard me up there in British Columbia?

I hear you lightly right at the noise level. I can't make out what you are saying, but I hear you.

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ April 03 2006,16:46)]Sim, Heath here.

I am wondering if you heard me up there in British Columbia?

I hear you lightly right at the noise level. I can't make out what you are saying, but I hear you.
Same here although you were popping above the noise level the odd time. Hope it improves

[ab8ma]

So.. Who is here now? Cannot hear anybody.

[ab8ma]

Who is running the net?

[KE5FRF]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 03 2006,18:52)]So.. Who is here now? Cannot hear anybody.
Well, right now N6WK is calling the net, and VE7NOT, W4HAY, and myself, KE5FRF have checked in.

maybe you could ask for a break to see if anyone hears you!

[KE5FRF]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 03 2006,18:53)]Who is running the net?
Bob, the conditions are so bad on 20 meters today that I think we are going to call it off. N6WK is having problems hearing everyone, and he is the only one with beams.

[KF0RT]

Wierd conditions. I can't hear Gordon at all, but AL2I is S5.

73, Rob

[KE5FRF]

I hear you Dave. I just heard you say that "you hear everyone"

I think that propogation N/S seems better today than E/W

[ab8ma]

Mind if I give a try? 13.325

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 03 2006,17:06)]Mind if I give a try? 13.325
your running in the 22m sw band? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif No wonder you can't hear us.

Edit.. actually at second glance that hf aviation. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ab8ma]

Nothing hreard.

[ab8ma]

Where are you ?

[AC0H]

14.325

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 03 2006,17:12)]Where are you ?
I've left but the rest on on 14.325

[AC0H]

Has anybody thought about moving this dog an pony show to 40m?

[N6WK]

Dave, AL2I, is doing a GREAT job as Net control Tonight!

Gordon

[VE7NOT]

I'm coming abck on

[AC0H]

He's doing a great job but i think if we used 40m we might all be able to hear each other. The only one I'm hearing right now is Dale and he's taking some big fades.

[N6WK]

so should we all try 7275 at 00:30Z ?

Gordon

[AC0H]

7.278 is clear now as far as I can hear.

[KE5FRF]

40/20...20/40...40/20/....

This is like watching a Tennis match.
Hey, whatever it takes! We have to be able to adapt to band conditions.

[KI4CIA]

Hey, I can hear Dave too ... cool! Dave you are booming into Alabama!!

[W0LPQ]

AL2I is pretty good into Indy. All else is almost unreadable.... on 20M.

Bill, W0LPQ

[KE5FRF]

At any rate, that was a very good opportunity FOR ME to test my antenna for optimum capability. Thanks.

I may try to meet you guys on 40 in a bit.

[AC0H]

I'm on 7.277 now.

[WA5KRP]

CRAAAAAAAAP.....the local noise level is killing (I guess) AL2I. Having trouble copying Melinda.


WA5KRP
Texas

[VE7NOT]

Someone is one there. But I can't make them out.

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (AC0H @ April 03 2006,19:34)]I'm on 7.277 now.
I'm gonna try.



WA5KRP
Texas

[VE7NOT]

Time for dinner for me 73 all

[N6WK]

I heard Kevin calling CQ and Randy Answer, But You guys aren't hearing me.
Man I need a 40 Meter Beam !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Oh yea, The tune up whistler followed us from 20. I'm sure I know who it is too!
A disgruntled QRZ''er ..?? perhaps ??

Gordon

[AC0H]

7268

[KI4CIA]

ya'll need to get on 7268 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KI4CIA]

Dave - AL2I - thanks very much for the QSO!

[VE7NOT]

Before we all QSyed to 40 I heard CIA pretty good. Also the whistler had a good signal.. he needs to learn more the one AF http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KI4CIA]

Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ April 03 2006,18:00)]Before we all QSyed to 40 I heard CIA pretty good. Also the whistler had a good signal.. he needs to learn more the one AF http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Sim - wanna go back to 14325http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[al2i]

I hear everybody on 40, but I am getting hammered by QRM. When it stops (briefly), I can hear perfectly. I never knew Melinda talked so much. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif (Just kidding-LOL)

I have a broadcast station at 7270 that is 20 over so I cannot really participate right now.

[al2i]

The Whistler would make a GREAT Net Control! Everybody heard the Whistler.

[KI4CIA]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ April 03 2006,18:04)]I hear everybody on 40, but I am getting hammered by QRM. When it stops (briefly), I can hear perfectly. I never knew Melinda talked so much. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif (Just kidding-LOL)

I have a broadcast station at 7270 that is 20 over so I cannot really participate right now.
Dave - we should probably go check on Gordon. We've already had a conversation about me not talking much and having a problem with "ragchewing". He probably just passed out from your comment http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[W5MEJ]

It was good for a little while - but the foreign broadcast on 7.270 is covering everyone for me right now...

Chuck

[KB5WX]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ April 03 2006,18:07)]The Whistler would make a GREAT Net Control! #Everybody heard the Whistler.
I could hear him but , if he had been any weaker he'd a been recievin " ! Dave ( AL2I ) was boomin in here on 20m . I can hear most everybody on 40m . Lots of static and such though .

[KI4CIA]

Yea, the foreign broadcast is getting worse.

Gordon - you hearing us at all?

[KE5FRF]

I tell you what, 20 meters is as quiet as a church mouse right now.

[KE5FRF]

is anyone on 40 right now?

[W5MEJ]

I think AC0H just closed it out - i had my narrowest filter in, and my external dsp as tight as it would go, but couldn't quite pull them out from the foreign broadcast there at the end.

[W0LPQ]

Don't hear anyone on either 40 or 20....

Bill, W0LPQ

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (KI4CIA @ April 03 2006,18:03)]Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ April 03 2006,18:00)]Before we all QSyed to 40 I heard CIA pretty good. Also the whistler had a good signal.. he needs to learn more the one AF http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Sim - wanna go back to 14325http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Whoops sorry. i was having dinner for the last hour

[KI4CIA]

Still around? Want to try 14.323? I'll call CQ and see what happens http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[W0LPQ]

Zilch on 20 here...

Bill, W0LPQ

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (KI4CIA @ April 03 2006,19:20)]Still around? Want to try 14.323? I'll call CQ and see what happens http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I tried just now

[KB3LIX]

Sorry I couldn't join the 'festivities' tonight.
Sounds like Dave in AK was doing OK tonight, I would have liked to try AK. We do not hear them up there very often.

My youngest daughter made a tray full of
halupki/cabbage rolls/stuffed cabbage/ pigs in the blanket, whatever you choose to call them, a loaf of fresh italian bread and invited mom and dad for dinner.

There is only one was to describe a dinner like that......HEAVEN !

Y'all can keep the possum ribs.

Plus, I got to see my grand-puppies. They are always fun.
Hopefully catch you all tomorrow.

[VE7NOT]

Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ April 03 2006,20:16)]Sorry I couldn't join the 'festivities' tonight.
Sounds like Dave in AK was doing OK tonight, I would have liked to try AK. We do not hear them up there very often.

My youngest daughter made a tray full of
halupki/cabbage rolls/stuffed cabbage/ pigs in the blanket, whatever you choose to call them, a loaf of fresh italian bread and invited mom and dad for dinner.

There is only one was to describe a dinner like that......HEAVEN !

Y'all can keep the possum ribs.

Plus, I got to see my grand-puppies. They are always fun.
Hopefully catch you all tomorrow.
Your ukrainian i take it http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[KB3LIX]

Nope,

Heinz 57 Varities !

[W4HAY]

Sheesh! What a noise level! S7+ most of the time. Gordon was hitting S9+20 when his beam was pointed this way. Could barely make out VE7NOT, though. I could tell Heath was in there, but that's just about it. Will probably work out FB once the QRN dies down.

You guys & gals gonna try the 80M CW run tonight?

[WB2WIK]

I don't have time to search the bands looking for a net that's a moving target...

...however yesterday afternoon at 0000 UTC I did go to 14.275 and hear a long winded QSO in progress, being interruped every five seconds by someone saying, "The frequency's in use." That was charming. I stayed for about ten seconds and moved on.

Moved on to 17m, 18.130, and had a 1-1/2 hour ragchew with hams all over the place, from HI to FL. Much nicer. No QRM and good condx until at least when I QRT'd at about 0140 UTC.

WB2WIK/6

[KE5FRF]

It is a difficult thing, given geographics and band conditions to plan a net, formal or informal, on any particular frequency or band. I think what we have done here has been pretty fun, and I have really enjoyed hearing Gordon, Rob, Danny, and all of the others who have participated around the country from Alaska and Canada (Dave and Sim) to Alabama, Deleware, Tennessee, Maine, California, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, etc. (Too many to name them all here). It may not be a "perfect" system, but I appreciate Gordon and Danny for getting something a little more workable going on 20 meters. If Fred does in fact start a Net forum, for formal/informal events, it would be all the better for folks wishing to partcipate. I agree that as it stands now with people having conflicting schedules and band conditions being quite noisy, it is rather difficult to establish a schedule.

Tonight, I have a club meeting to attend, but tommorrow, if Danny, Gordon, or anyone else doesn't hold something, I will try another net on 40 meters.

73, FRF

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ April 04 2006,09:56)]I don't have time to search the bands looking for a net that's a moving target...

...however yesterday afternoon at 0000 UTC I did go to 14.275 and hear a long winded QSO in progress, being interruped every five seconds by someone saying, "The frequency's in use." That was charming. I stayed for about ten seconds and moved on.

Moved on to 17m, 18.130, and had a 1-1/2 hour ragchew with hams all over the place, from HI to FL. Much nicer. No QRM and good condx until at least when I QRT'd at about 0140 UTC.

WB2WIK/6
That wasn't any of us OM, we were on 14.325 and then on 7.268.

[WB2WIK]

I'll give it a shot on 14.325 this afternoon if I can get home early enough.

Tnx

WB2WIK/6

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ April 04 2006,09:10)]Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ April 04 2006,09:56)]I don't have time to search the bands looking for a net that's a moving target...

...however yesterday afternoon at 0000 UTC I did go to 14.275 and hear a long winded QSO in progress, being interruped every five seconds by someone saying, "The frequency's in use." #That was charming. #I stayed for about ten seconds and moved on.

Moved on to 17m, 18.130, and had a 1-1/2 hour ragchew with hams all over the place, from HI to FL. #Much nicer. #No QRM and good condx until at least when I QRT'd at about 0140 UTC.

WB2WIK/6
That wasn't any of us OM, we were on 14.325 and then on 7.268.
Yeah, I highly doubt anyone on QRZ would be long winded! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[N6WK]

Sorry Guys and Girls, I'm Busy right now.
I will try to come out and play after 01:00 UTC.. 20 or 40

Gordon

[kj3n]

So, which band will it be today? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

I'll be on the way home @ 21:30 UTC. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[WB2WIK]

I gave it a shot yesterday, 14.325 at 0000 UTC. There was a QSO in progress there (strong) but nothing to do with the QRZ net.

I'll check again today ~0000 UTC...

WB2WIK/6

[ai4ep]

I like what WIK said at the top of this page about " a net that is a moving target "..so true, so true.

So what frequency / band / time will todays net BEGIN on ....any one in authority know yet ?

Yep,set foot elsewhere, asked a few questions to folks who will find the answers to the questions eventually. Then came back, and it is good to put my feet on Alabama soil again.

Just in time to watch " lost " on tv 2 nite.
( and NO it aint no re-run ...not THIS week !! )

So...if any one was " qrm ing " the net, it could not have been me, I was not around my hf rig Sunday, Monday or Tuesday night...so kids go find yourself another scapegoat.

I read b4 I posted, thank you.

AI4EP ( back in Alabama...did any one think they saw me ? )

[KB3LIX]

HF has been HORRIBLE here in Pennsylvania today. I can hardly hear WWV on 10.000.

20 sounds like its the dead of night, and only 5 broadcast stations on 40. Must have been a huge magnetic storm or disturbance in the "force" recently.

Good luck hearing anything tonight.

[KB3LIX]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 05 2006,17:37)]I like what WIK said at the top of this page about " a net #that is a moving target "..so true, so true.

So what frequency / band / time will todays net BEGIN on ....any one in authority know yet ?

Yep,set foot elsewhere, asked a few questions to folks who will find the answers to the questions #eventually. # Then came back, and it is good to put my feet on Alabama soil again.

#Just in time to watch " lost " on tv 2 nite.
( and NO it aint no re-run ...not THIS week #!! )

So...if any one was " qrm ing " the net, it could not have been me, I was not around my hf rig Sunday, Monday or Tuesday night...so kids go find yourself another scapegoat.

I read b4 I posted, thank you.

AI4EP #( back in Alabama...did any one think they saw me ? )

Say what http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Please take your meds.
You are beginning to babble.....again !

[kj3n]

Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ April 05 2006,17:01)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 05 2006,17:37)]I like what WIK said at the top of this page about " a net that is a moving target "..so true, so true.

So what frequency / band / time will todays net BEGIN on ....any one in authority know yet ?

Yep,set foot elsewhere, asked a few questions to folks who will find the answers to the questions eventually. Then came back, and it is good to put my feet on Alabama soil again.

Just in time to watch " lost " on tv 2 nite.
( and NO it aint no re-run ...not THIS week !! )

So...if any one was " qrm ing " the net, it could not have been me, I was not around my hf rig Sunday, Monday or Tuesday night...so kids go find yourself another scapegoat.

I read b4 I posted, thank you.

AI4EP ( back in Alabama...did any one think they saw me ? )

Say what http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Please take your meds.
You are beginning to babble.....again !
To use the word "again", one would have to assume he ever stopped. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ab8ma]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 05 2006,21:37)]I like what WIK said at the top of this page about " a net #that is a moving target "..so true, so true.

So what frequency / band / time will todays net BEGIN on ....any one in authority know yet ?
It might be fun to start a list of which frequencies NOT to start a net on.

14.300 - Maritime Mobile Net. Everybody knows this.
14.295 - Owned and monitored but not to be used.
14.313 - Anybody want to get Here? Could be interesting. But Poltergeists inhabit this frequency.
14.275 - Possibly still owned?

[kj5t]

I will listen around the evening. If 14.313, 14.295, and 14.275 are clear then I see no reason to not use them. Because then if the stations who "own" the frequencies QRM the net, someone should record it (I could) and send it to riley (if they use callsigns). We need to stop that kind of "this is my frequency" business. Last time I checked the FCC hasn't been issuing private frequencies to hams.

As for band conditions. I made a couple of contacts on 20 meters out to the west coast, but conditions were far from great. Both stations died out at the end of the end of the QSO. According to dx.qsl.net "Space weather for the past 24 hours has been minor.
Geomagnetic storms reaching the G1 level occurred."

So I will see if I can find you guys, I haven't joined in the activities yet.

[ab8ma]

At this time, it would seem a miracle if any of those frequencies would be heard any. Such a high niose level everywhere. The entire 20 meter band seems dead.

It is 'O' before 'I' except after 'N', isn't it?

[AK7V]

This is what you have to do.

Find someone who doesn't work.
Get them to park on a good frequency.
If anyone stats calling CQ, have them say "This frequency is in use." and/or QRM them into submission.
Advertise this net frequency and the time here on QRZ.
When it's time for the net, the frequency guard can partake or go do something else.
Voila, you have your own net frequency.

You could also publish a net guide.

So it would no longer be a "roving net"

[ab8ma]

14.325 Repeater. Pl 342

[W3MIV]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 05 2006,17:33)]Such a high niose level everywhere.
My niose levels used to be high until I started taking NIOSE-Nok. Now, my niose levels are low, and I can dance the evenings away...

And, tonight only, you too can have low niose levels. Only $19.95 for a twenty ounce supply.





But wait....




If you call RIGHT NOW, I will DOUBLE your order. That's right: forty full ounces of NIOSE-Nok for the price of 20. But hurry, this offer only for tonigt....
















Shipping and handling extra.

[ab8ma]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ April 05 2006,22:42)]Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 05 2006,17:33)]Such a high niose level everywhere.
My niose levels used to be high until I started taking NIOSE-Nok. Now, my niose levels are low, and I can dance the evenings away...

And, tonight only, you too can have low niose levels. Only $19.95 for a twenty ounce supply.





But wait....




If you call RIGHT NOW, I will DOUBLE your order. That's right: forty full ounces of NIOSE-Nok for the price of 20. But hurry, this offer only for tonigt....
















Shipping and handling extra.
So...... You are saying that my signal is WIDE??? You saying I am causing natural interference across the ENTIRE 20 meter band because my VOX setting is wrong?


So - You saying I AM SNORING AGAIN?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[af2cw]

wellllll doggie, I'll take two of them thar niose-nok thingies thar fellar. #uh.. so how much is that-a gonna cost me?? the derned calcumalator is on the fritz. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[KE5FRF]

Quote[/b] (AK7V @ April 05 2006,17:33)]This is what you have to do.

Find someone who doesn't work.
Get them to park on a good frequency.
If anyone stats calling CQ, have them say "This frequency is in use." and/or QRM them into submission.
Advertise this net frequency and the time here on QRZ.
When it's time for the net, the frequency guard can partake or go do something else.
Voila, you have your own net frequency.

You could also publish a net guide.

So it would no longer be a "roving net"
Ok, my rig is warming up, gotta finish dinner, then I'll be on the net whenever it starts.

I see everyone is bickering about a schedule. Well, perhaps the "NET FORUM" idea will take off, and we can democratically get something rolling that is more fixed.

Until then, Gordon is doing a great job, and his antenna is more than adequate, and if he needs me to be net control, all he has to do is say so. One thing we can't do is having conflicting nets.

So, has anything been worked out for today?

[kj3n]

Well, things sounded pretty horrible on the drive home. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Will check 14.325 around 00:00 UTC.

[ab8ma]

Sure would be nice to live on the west coast. Then I would not have to wait for all you slackers to get home.

Deep breath. Thanks, I feel much better now.

Spelling Correction. Mush better vs Much better. Whell, I am hungary.

[KB3LIX]

Quote[/b] (n3jja @ April 05 2006,18:10)]Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ April 05 2006,17:01)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 05 2006,17:37)]I like what WIK said at the top of this page about " a net #that is a moving target "..so true, so true.

So what frequency / band / time will todays net BEGIN on ....any one in authority know yet ?

Yep,set foot elsewhere, asked a few questions to folks who will find the answers to the questions #eventually. # Then came back, and it is good to put my feet on Alabama soil again.

#Just in time to watch " lost " on tv 2 nite.
( and NO it aint no re-run ...not THIS week #!! )

So...if any one was " qrm ing " the net, it could not have been me, I was not around my hf rig Sunday, Monday or Tuesday night...so kids go find yourself another scapegoat.

I read b4 I posted, thank you.

AI4EP #( back in Alabama...did any one think they saw me ? )

Say what http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Please take your meds.
You are beginning to babble.....again !
To use the word "again", one would have to assume he ever stopped. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I stand corrected !


Still can't hear anything on 20, sounds like the middle of the night. I can't even hear the Maritime Mobile Net on .300

[KB3LIX]

Quote[/b] (AK7V @ April 05 2006,18:33)]This is what you have to do.

Find someone who doesn't work.
Get them to park on a good frequency.
If anyone stats calling CQ, have them say "This frequency is in use." and/or QRM them into submission.
Advertise this net frequency and the time here on QRZ.
When it's time for the net, the frequency guard can partake or go do something else.
Voila, you have your own net frequency.

You could also publish a net guide.

So it would no longer be a "roving net"
I'll volunteer for that,

but I need Gordon's Force 12 antenna, and Danny's AL-80b with those sensuous (sp) tubes,

Oh,

and can anyone donate a tower to support the antenna.

Oh well,

Guess I'm SoL !!!

[ab8ma]

Is anybody ready. I am barefoot, but that is 200 Watts into a CW40 (Carolina 40) up about 55 feet.

14.324

[ab8ma]

14.324 Guys

[WB2WIK]

Bands are wiped out by solar flare right now...not many signals, lots of QSB, funny band noise. WWV at 10 MHz coming through gangbusters, though, so there's hope for recovery still today. Might not be in time for 0000 UTC, which is only 28 mins from now.

WB2WIK/6 listening from La-La Land...

[ab8ma]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 05 2006,23:31)]14.324 Guys
Still calling. Not giving up.

[kj3n]

Quote[/b] ]Solar flux 99 and estimated mid-latitude A-Index 24. The mid-latitude K-index at 2100 UTC on 05 April was 2 (17 nT).

Don't think it's gonna fly tonight.....

[ab8ma]

All you guys in the wrong time zone. What up ?

14.324

[W3MIV]

I am monitoring 14324 right now (even as I type this).

[WB2WIK]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 05 2006,16:40)]All you guys in the wrong time zone. What up ?

14.324
Are you actually hearing anybody on or near 14.324?

Band still sounds wiped out here. Although there's a QSO on 14.328, sounds like a geezer...hey, he's coming up in strength, band might be starting to come back.

[ab8ma]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ April 05 2006,23:43)]Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 05 2006,16:40)]All you guys in the wrong time zone. What up ?

14.324
Are you actually hearing anybody on or near 14.324?

Band still sounds wiped out here. #Although there's a QSO on 14.328, sounds like a geezer...hey, he's coming up in strength, band might be starting to come back.
Absolutely nothing.

Want to try 40?

[W3MIV]

I heard WIK calling. Weak here in MD. Tried to answer, but not strong enough to make a dent.

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 05 2006,17:40)]All you guys in the wrong time zone. What up ?

14.324
WIK's right. 20 is sounding really dead here in Denver (45 miles S. of WWV). I'm hearing one foreign language station at 14.175, but other than that, nothing.

73, Rob

[W3MIV]

Try good ol' 7275

[WB2WIK]

Figured somebody would hear that.

I gave a "QRZ?" on .324. Didn't hear anybody answer, band still sounds very wiped out.

Running 1 kW to 6 elements at 55 feet, beaming Europe.

WB2WIK/6

[ab8ma]

Where?

[WA4ABM]

14.324 dead here in Central Florida. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[WB2WIK]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ April 05 2006,16:48)]Try good ol' 7275
40 doesn't sound good here yet, either.

Maybe in an hour.

The sun is still very high in the sky, sunset here is in almost three hours. After that, 40 opens well. Maybe today, maybe not. Bands still sound stinko.

[ab8ma]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ April 05 2006,23:48)]Figured somebody would hear that.

I gave a "QRZ?" on .324. #Didn't hear anybody answer, band still sounds very wiped out.

Running 1 kW to 6 elements at 55 feet, beaming Europe.

WB2WIK/6
Well. I told you all you wre in the wrong time zone hi hi

Nothing here on 14.324


Where you all at?

[ab8ma]

Trying cq on 7.275

[WB2WIK]

Geesh.

I'm in Los Angeles, where the sky is blue, the sun is shining, the birds are singing and the band sounds like crap.

Just for giggles I'm going to call a CQ on 14.324, see if anybody hears me.

WB2WIK/6

[kj3n]

Deader than Kelsey's nuts...

Somebody's on 7.275.....

[KB3LIX]

There is something WAY down in the noise on 14.324, but I cannot make anything out.

There is a strong QSO on 7.275 here, don't know who/where they are though.

[KE5FRF]

Noisy here too Steve, WB2WIK.

Well, looks like band propogation the past few days hasn't been favorable.

Hopefully we can do the CW net on 80 meters and have better luck.

Did the rest of youz guyz hear Steve and I WB2WIK/KE5FRF?

[KB3LIX]

That's apparently AB8MA on 7.275 in QSO with someone in the 4th call district.
I can hear the 4 land station fine, but cannot hear AB8MA.

[W3MIV]

I am on 7275

[ab8ma]

7.275 now guys

[WB2WIK]

Well, I could hear you Heath (FRF) on .324 but pretty weak. Normally this time of day Louisiana would pin my S meter. Not now...

As I said on the air, give it 30-60 minutes, the bands could come back. Not unusual for a wipeout to last a few hours, and then recover. It could happen any moment, or it could happen tomorrow.

If we had control over this, maybe it wouldn't be as much fun.

73

Steve WB2WIK/6

[KE5FRF]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ April 05 2006,19:03)]Well, I could hear you Heath (FRF) on .324 but pretty weak. #Normally this time of day Louisiana would pin my S meter. #Not now...

As I said on the air, give it 30-60 minutes, the bands could come back. #Not unusual for a wipeout to last a few hours, and then recover. #It could happen any moment, or it could happen tomorrow.

If we had control over this, maybe it wouldn't be as much fun.

73

Steve WB2WIK/6
You know what, Steve, you hit the nail right on the head.


If fish just jumped into the boat, how many people would like fishing?

[WB2WIK]

Yep.

You know the old saying...

"Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, you have a pain in the ass who calls you at 4:30 AM wanting to borrow your boat."

[kj3n]

heard wa4abm just now...

and now KRP....

Not hearing bob at all...

[WA4ABM]

I'm barely hearing AB4MA, but WA4KRP strong in Winter Haven, FL. I need a relay.

TKS,
Rich http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[KB3LIX]

I hear KRP fine, but my peanut whistle station isn't making it.

Day late, and a dollar short. Happens all the time !

[KE5FRF]

Quote[/b] (n3jja @ April 05 2006,19:07)]heard wa4abm just now...

and now KRP....

Not hearing bob at all...
OK, it seems like we are all on different freqs! HIHI, I'm on 14.324, you guys?

I hope that Fred goes for the idea suggested before that we actually have a forum devoted specifically to nets and on-air meetings, and things might get a little more organized.

[KB3LIX]

Heath,

20 is dead, 40 at least I can hear something.

7.275

[WB2WIK]

.324 is quiet here (well, other than the S7 noise level!).

I'll call another "CQ" on .324 just for grins and see if anybody hears it...

WB2WIK/6 in the land of Fruits and Nuts

[W3MIV]

rougher a cob...

[KE5FRF]

Well, I hear a station kd5owo calling.

[WB2WIK]

You guys all need more power.

About a million Watts might do it, right now.

Band truly stinks.

Tomorrow's guaranteed to be better, although I won't be home at this hour. Could be here this hour on Friday.

I'll listen on 7275 also a bit but it's still broad daylight here and usually no prop to the east coast until about dusk.

WB2WIK/6

[KE5FRF]

Hello Steve, KD5OWO...

You're signal is weak into Louisiana, but your audio is clear, I also hear Bob.

[kj3n]

OWO is readable. Bob's not there AFAIC..

[kj3n]

Heath, you're barely a whisper over my noise.

[ai4ep]

so...if there is / was a net...let us see a list of WHO checked in, the frequency OF the net...etc.

The past 4 pages speak for theirselves...go back and see WHO said WHAT.

hi hi http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W0LPQ]

All I hear is Habla guys on 310.... zilch elsewhre on 20.

Heath you are pretty weak on 40M..

Bill, W0LPQ

[K7JBQ]

Steve's right, the condx suck right now.
So much for my one day off this week.

73,
Bill

[kj5t]

Heath and Bob are both weak here, I heard Albert W3MIV and WA4ABM. Nice to be talking to some of you guys.

[KE5FRF]

well, we tried. band conditions are what they are. half the fun is trying.

[kj3n]

Good news; BC stations are pretty much gone.

Bad news; so is just about everything else.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[kj5t]

I was able to get AB8MA in the log, and I will try again to get the rest of you at a different time.

[KB3LIX]

Everyone just dissappeared into the QRN.

Better luck tomorrow. Can't always have good band conditions.

[KB3LIX]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 05 2006,20:25)]so...if there is / was a net...let us see a list of WHO checked in, the frequency OF the net...etc.

The past 4 pages speak for theirselves...go back and see WHO said WHAT.

hi hi http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Your Point ?

[W3MIV]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ April 05 2006,19:22)]You guys all need more power.
AL-80B is on the on-deck circle. Just have to get past the ides of April. ( http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif )

I heard you call a couple of times, and your signal was low but very readable. Tried to answer, but drowned in the mud.

[ab8ma]

KE5FRF and KD5OWO

Kudos. FB. Thanks for the contacts. 7.275

[KB3LIX]

Heath,

You just faded out to nothing.

However, the broadcast stations are beginning to raise their ugly head. Should mean propagation returning to somewhat normal.

I'll be monitoring 7.275 for a while.

[KE5FRF]

well i didn't mean to commandeer the band, but 2 or three stations coming in strong.

[KE5FRF]

After you guys left, the band "seemed" to pick up, and I had three or four more contacts . I didn't mean to run you guys off....did I run you guys off or did it just happen that way? Everyone simply started calling my station and I answered.

Well, it seems like I do pretty good with 40 meters, at least when I have my antenna situated properly. I'm sorry it didn't work out as a net, though.

[kj3n]

Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ April 05 2006,19:33)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 05 2006,20:25)]so...if there is / was a net...let us see a list of WHO checked in, the frequency OF the net...etc.

The past 4 pages speak for theirselves...go back and see WHO said WHAT.

hi hi http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Your Point ?
Bill,

Haven't you learned not to feed the troll? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[WA4ABM]

On 7.275 I was able to contact and log in:
KD5OWO Steve in Texas
KI4BFN Len in Kentucky
KE5FRF in Louisiana

I heard others but did not make direct contact: N4LEM, WA5KRP, AI4FP, KB4LIX

73,
Rich http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KE5FRF]

Rich, sorry for running off, my little boy comes first.

Thanks for posting the callsigns of everyone on the frequency tonight. I wasn't really running the "net", it just kind of happened that way tonight. The past couple of days, Danny and Gordon have been doing net control, so I wasn't really prepared 2nite. Perhaps tommorrow we'll schedule a planned one.

Band conditions sucked early on, too.

[KB3LIX]

Quote[/b] (n3jja @ April 05 2006,21:34)]Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ April 05 2006,19:33)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 05 2006,20:25)]so...if there is / was a net...let us see a list of WHO checked in, the frequency OF the net...etc.

The past 4 pages speak for theirselves...go back and see WHO said WHAT.

hi hi http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Your Point ?
Bill,

Haven't you learned not to feed the troll? #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
My XYL says I'm a glutton for punishment.

I shall be more careful.

MUCH more careful !

[N6WK]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 05 2006,23:16)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 05 2006,21:37)]I like what WIK said at the top of this page about " a net that is a moving target "..so true, so true.

So what frequency / band / time will todays net BEGIN on ....any one in authority know yet ?
It might be fun to start a list of which frequencies NOT to start a net on.

14.300 - Maritime Mobile Net. Everybody knows this.
14.295 - Owned and monitored but not to be used.
14.313 - Anybody want to get Here? Could be interesting. But Poltergeists inhabit this frequency.
14.275 - Possibly still owned?
Ok, What is a Maritime mobile net? Is that a Boater that is moving??
How many people can it possibly have ??
Geees, There can't be THAT many boaters out there.!!
I ran into these guys the other day. Nobody was there, but they sure came out of the woodwork When I called on that freq.
When I asked HOW long they were going to tie the Freq up, NO ONE answered.
Sorry, But I'm afraid I have NO respect for the so called Maritime Mobile Net
I'll use 295 anytime I want, If there is NOT an Active QSO going on. I can throw more power at it If I need to.

Not sure about 313, I'll check it out.
yes the Guy on 275 definately needs help as he is Hung up with Something against Riley!

[kf4vgx]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ April 04 2006,20:14)]Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 05 2006,23:16)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 05 2006,21:37)]I like what WIK said at the top of this page about " a net #that is a moving target "..so true, so true.

So what frequency / band / time will todays net BEGIN on ....any one in authority know yet ?
It might be fun to start a list of which frequencies NOT to start a net on.

14.300 - Maritime Mobile Net. Everybody knows this.
14.295 - Owned and monitored but not to be used.
14.313 - Anybody want to get Here? Could be interesting. But Poltergeists inhabit this frequency.
14.275 - Possibly still owned?
Ok, #What is a Maritime mobile net? Is that a Boater that is moving??
How many people can it possibly have ??
# Geees, There can't be THAT many boaters out there.!!
I ran into these guys the other day. Nobody was there, but they sure came out of the woodwork When I called on that freq.
When I asked HOW long they were going to tie the Freq up, NO ONE answered.
#Sorry, But I'm afraid I have NO respect for the so called Maritime Mobile Net
I'll use 295 anytime I want, If there is NOT an Active QSO going on. I can throw more power at it If I need to.

Not sure about 313, I'll check it out.
yes the Guy on 275 definately needs help as he is Hung up with Something against Riley!
Must not have been your frequency http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .

Did you ask for permission to use it http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Just ribbin a bit , I know its rough http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[N6WK]

Quote[/b] (kf4vgx @ April 06 2006,03:17)]Quote[/b] (N6WK @ April 04 2006,20:14)]Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ April 05 2006,23:16)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ April 05 2006,21:37)]I like what WIK said at the top of this page about " a net that is a moving target "..so true, so true.

So what frequency / band / time will todays net BEGIN on ....any one in authority know yet ?
It might be fun to start a list of which frequencies NOT to start a net on.

14.300 - Maritime Mobile Net. Everybody knows this.
14.295 - Owned and monitored but not to be used.
14.313 - Anybody want to get Here? Could be interesting. But Poltergeists inhabit this frequency.
14.275 - Possibly still owned?
Ok, What is a Maritime mobile net? Is that a Boater that is moving??
How many people can it possibly have ??
Geees, There can't be THAT many boaters out there.!!
I ran into these guys the other day. Nobody was there, but they sure came out of the woodwork When I called on that freq.
When I asked HOW long they were going to tie the Freq up, NO ONE answered.
Sorry, But I'm afraid I have NO respect for the so called Maritime Mobile Net
I'll use 295 anytime I want, If there is NOT an Active QSO going on. I can throw more power at it If I need to.

Not sure about 313, I'll check it out.
yes the Guy on 275 definately needs help as he is Hung up with Something against Riley!
Must not have been your frequency http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .

Did you ask for permission to use it http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Just ribbin a bit , I know its rough http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
Didn't seem to be anyones frequency, Until I asked if it was in Use! Even then, No one was using it. Just some guy CLAIMING it was !!

Gordon
N6WK

[kf4vgx]

Good ole HF and it charismatics. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif .

Hang in there http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[ai4ep]

Something just aint right here....here is this worldwide web site, with the potential to have hundreds if not thousands of folks who just come to READ the different threads, much less make a post on any thread.

So, with all of these potential thousands of folks who are possibly reading this thread ( on the top half of the first page ), why are not there more folks checking in ?

easy excuse would be ---lousy band conditions

a more believable reason would be ? ( fill in the blank )

Go back to the forum page ( the page that lists all the different forums that get you to the specific threads, which eventually get you to this post ) and see how many folks ( registered ) who are here the past 15 minutes. That list does NOT include folks who aint registered, who are just visitors and do not make one single post on any forum on any thread.

Yet tht total # of " check - ins " is always less than 20 ?

Yea, let us blame " lousy dx conditions " for the reason...let us use the excuse of " high noise level " .

Apparently one of the main reasons folks do not check in is --- they do not know where to tune to. One minute it is one frequency, next minute it is another.. then there is a BAND change, and it starts all over again........there is no consistentcy (*sp).

Too much " fly-by-night " operation.

Get on one frequency and stay there through the good and bad conditions, and folks will ( over time ) come TO you. It works for the other nets...they too go through good & bad conditions throough the hours / days . But they stay in one place. Folks aint gonna chase you all over the band of bands ( obviously ).

Get on one frequency and stay there at least a week. Put posts here that state well in advance ( no less than 6 hours before the start of the net ) the frequency and time the net starts and ends. Then abide by it. If you have 3 check - in...good. If you have 20 check - ins that is better.

Be reliable on what frequency you say you will be on...do not be 2 - 20 kc up or down or on another band.

Do not worry about " qrm ", they too will fade in and out through the noise. The more you mention the " qrm " on-the-air or even HERE, that is free publicity for them. That lets the " qrm " know that they are doing some good, that they got YOUR attention.
No mention of them, they get tired and go elsewhere for some attention.

But I think that most of you already KNEW what I have posted here, you are intelligent folks, and like I said earlier in either this thread or the older one ---I DO like the idea of a "qrz " net. I just aint going to run wide open on my power just to check in...if you hear me on 50 watts, ok, if not ...no big deal.


mo' latr

AI4EP (Robert)

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[kf4vgx]

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Health I like ya http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif .

You can even date my cousin " Edsel"

[ai4ep]

...so ?

no rapid response ?

....oh well...mebbe thair weil bee won tewmorow.

good night kids

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[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ April 05 2006,18:21)]Didn't seem to be anyones frequency, Until I asked if it was in Use! #Even then, No one was using it. Just some guy CLAIMING it was !!

Gordon
N6WK
Oh, that.. That's the GOOMC net!
(Get Off'n 'O My Channel)

14.275 Is that that VE7 whackjob that hates Riley and America in general?
Strange.. nice signal though, I almost accidently came back to him one time.

[kf6rdn]

I skipped over 'ep's post thinking it one of his other... err... messages.. And he does make a good point.. Find a decent frequency, and "hang out" on it as much as possible.

But I guess it IS new, so that may take time..

On the other hand, at least from my car the bands WERE dead... To the point of I will not be surprised to discover I have an antenna problem.

[KE5FRF]

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE

We started out having the Net or Gathering on 40 meters at 00:00 zulu. Unfortunately some people weren't being heard on 40 meters, so someone suggested 20. Well, the next few days Danny and Gordon were successfully able to hear most everyone on 20 meters, etc. Well, yesterday 20 meters was mush, and we all wound up on 40 meters, and it seemed most everyone could hear me.

Anyhow, lets all kind of come to some kind of decision on how to proceed. Perhaps we would be better off doing a WEEKLY net, which was kind of my idea in the first place. If we do it weekly rather than daily, it might keep people from losing interest. Even a b-weekly net might be the answer, perhaps Monday and Friday?

anyway, this of course doesn't stop anyone from holding "informal gatherings" at other points during the week, but if we schedule something weekly or bi-weekly, it might be a little easier to coordinate.

SO, with that being said, since I held the net last Friday, and had some luck with it, I move we schedule another net on 40 meters for tommorrow evening, and I volunteer to be NCS again

All in favor?
All opposed?

[ai4ep]

One more idea for the qrz net....

since apparently there are at least 3 of you that are willing to be NET CONTROL...2 for ssb and one for CW...

Let one of you be on 40 meters ssb
Let one of you be on 80 meters ssb
Let one of you be on 80 meters cw

All at the same time ( what ever time you folks decide ).

You can communicate TO EACH OTHER through qrz ( computer ), complaining about qrn, lack of hearing any one, etc.

Thopse who wish to check in to any / all of the nets will know by reading here what the frequency is. STAY on your frequency ( dont wander off ). If you get 2 check ins, ok if you get 200 check ins .. great. But be reliable.

Some folks will try to check in to all 3. Some can make it to all 3, others cant make the trip to even one. Allow the check ins to have FUN using their radio s to talk to you folks that are the " qrz net control ".

PLUS having 3 nets going on at the same time...any QRM that is out there will have to work harder to aggravate 3 nets at the same time. If you make the QRM folks work harder, they get tired and lose inte