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k4lem
03-30-2006, 01:21 PM
Yes, sir he can't hear but 5 to maybe 10 perecnt of stations that call him, yet is 20 db over s9 in much of US on 80 meters. He splatters up and down and I am told runs a Henry 10 KW rig at about 5 to 9 kw output.

One day I heard him working cross band. He was calling on 80 meters and of all things, listening on 20.

You can list this guy as a poor poor operator with far far too much money to spend.

And, aren't cross band QSOs in the US illegal??



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K9STH
03-30-2006, 04:41 PM
LEM:

There is a very simple answer to your question and that answer is NO!

Cross-band QSOs have never been illegal in the United States. Nor are cross-mode (i.e. one station using CW and the other phone) illegal.

Glen, K9STH

ae6yd
03-30-2006, 06:22 PM
The only requirement is that the two stations must be in two-way communication. IIRC, there are a lot of ATV guys who send one part of their conversation (the TV part) on the high UHF bands (440, 900, 1.2) and then another part in FM voice over a 2m or 440 repeater.

However, 5-9kw is something to raise an eyebrow at. I never understood why guys have to run OVER legal power, when the QRP fanatics have already proven you can work the world in a very real way with just 5w. I don't have a good enough antenna for QRP, but I'd be more than happy with 100w. I've been working 15 and 40, including Europe, SA and the east coast, on 20.

WA2ZDY
03-30-2006, 08:22 PM
Quote[/b] (KF6CZG @ Mar. 30 2006,14:22)]I never understood why guys have to run OVER legal power, when the QRP fanatics have already proven you can work the world in a very real way with just 5w.
In the very early days of CW (as King Spark lay upon his deathbed,) with little understanding of feedline/antenna theory, SWR, etc, the average ham was running five to ten watts out, fifty was a big gun, and working the world between the 80 and 200 meter bands.

Somewhere along the line things sure changed. In many countries however the power limits are from 150 to 400 watts out, while in a few there seem to be none at all.

It takes all kinds but the bottom line is still the antenna.

k4lem
03-30-2006, 09:12 PM
Quote[/b] (WA2ZDY @ Mar. 30 2006,15:22)]Quote[/b] (KF6CZG @ Mar. 30 2006,14:22)]I never understood why guys have to run OVER legal power, when the QRP fanatics have already proven you can work the world in a very real way with just 5w.
In the very early days of CW (as King Spark lay upon his deathbed,) with little understanding of feedline/antenna theory, SWR, etc, the average ham was running five to ten watts out, fifty was a big gun, and working the world between the 80 and 200 meter bands.

Somewhere along the line things sure changed. #In many countries however the power limits are from 150 to 400 watts out, while in a few there seem to be none at all. #

It takes all kinds but the bottom line is still the antenna.
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About twenty years ago the FCC showed up at the doors of several amateurs and asked to observe. They concluded in almost no circumstance does more than 300 watts add to readability or communication quality.

The tipping of S meters to 30 db over S 9 is hardly needed for relibale commuications.
Many buy big expensive rigs because they equate $$$ with value.

Henry Radio used to produce a 10 K that was only for export. Used a 5cx5000a and another model used two.

The larger amp could do 9kw or better output. The intent in those days was I believe sale to the military and to compete with the status symbol, Collins Radio.

Who they sold these to outside the US was strictly a business decision. I would think you would stress a 240 volts system with same. In Europe however I believe the standard is 240 and 500 volts. So by tapping the transformer such a rig could make power.
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k4lem
03-30-2006, 09:18 PM
Sorry, I was wrong. Its the Henry Radio 5k that uses 4cx1200A3 (two of them)