DX in pile ups and listening

[k4lem]

is such a waste of time. I mean 300 stations spread out over at least ten khz causing obnoxious QRM to others.

I have noted some of these wanna work DA DX can't even hear the DX. They just throw their signal in the pile causing additional QRM. Why can't the DX ask for call areas in US or tell callers where the "h**l" he is listening.

This guy in PJ last night was loud. I would only call for a signal report to inflate my ego 599, when I know he is giving 599 to Euros at 339 actual RST.

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[cu2jt]

You were lucky to get his callsign. I have been listening to DX that don't send their call sign for about 10 minutes and the pile-up grows with the square of time and a lot of stations sending "?" I have to go the the DX spot web site to find out who the h**l it is.

A few weeks ago we had a DX on 14285 saying "5 up" which caused a lot of havoc on the OMISS net frequency on 14290. No use to tell the calling stations that the frequency was occupied since they didn't listen on their xmit frequency.

[W3MIV]

Lot of DX callers work the US by call area list, but those who are calling him/her don't always cooperate and cause a far worse situation than is necessary. Patience is a virtue that is possessed by far too few hams, experience shows.

The calling stations who issue too few callsign calls are probably not conscious of how long they go without giving out their call. I agree that this is bad, but it (again) demands more patience than many of us are willing to invest.

We are often quick to holler about the "gimme-gimme" generation with regard to licensing and code, but often fail to remember how many OFs are guilty of the same syndrome with regard to working a "rare one" on the bands.

edit: 'cause I can't type worth a tinker's dam this morning.

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[k4lem]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Mar. 30 2006,09:04)]Lot of DX callers work the US by call area list, but those who are calling him/her don't always cooperate and cause a far worse situation than is necessary. Patience is a virtue that is possessed by far too few hams, experience shows.

The calling stations who issue too few callsign calls are probably not conscious of how long they go without giving out their call. I agree that this is bad, but it (again) demands more patience than many of us are willing to invest.

We are often quick to holler about the "gimme-gimme" generation with regard to licensing and code, but often fail to remember how many OFs are guilty of the same syndrome with regard to working a "rare one" on the bands.

edit: 'cause I can't type worth a tinker's dam this morning.

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Many call them when they already have prefix or country. They are BORED and want a signal report. I guess if they can break the pile up, it inflates their ego.

But frankly many of the hard core Dxers with 130 foot towers and 3kw (yes) amplifiers have little challenge after shooting fish in the bath tub all day. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KD6NIG]

I don't know much code, but when I monitor HF, I know the letters, a, s, and l, i, d pretty well.

Thats because people will get on there sending words with those letters quite often. They also send the letters u, p quite often too.

Now if they would just send entire sentences, I'd probably have code down in about a week.....

[KB3LIX]

Yesterday, There was a station on Diego Garcia island working a pile-up. A VQ9.
I saw him listed on DX summit on 17 meters, so I tuned there just to see if I could hear him. He was S-7/8 here and at the time I tuned in, He was working North America by call districts. At that exact time, he was calling for W-2. I thought, man I gotta get tuned for 17, because W-3 is next, and I gotta try to work him.
As my luck would have it, after working the W-2's, he asked for W-1's.
He was working BACKWARDS !
I was ready to burst. Probably my ONLY chance to work someone in the Indian Ocean, and I missed him by a few minutes.

Then, he called CQ, Central & South America, no takers.
Then.....He called CQ Europe, and you would have thought a dam had burst, it was nothing but a huge hetrodyne. (And you are not supposed to have hetrodynes using SSB, but they were there)

For about a half of an hour he worked a boatload of European stations, and I kept listening, crying in my beer.

Then # he announced, he was going back to work NA again, and I about fell off the chair, maybe I get another chance. He starts with W-0, and the Europeans keep calling and calling. Finally he gets frustrated, and threatens the europeans. one more QRM and in going QRT.
I couldn't believe it, but they all shut up.
When he got to W-3, I was #4 in line, one US station, two VE3's and Me.
I only got a 5x5 report, but after waiting and listening so long, I would have gladly taken a 1x1.

Sorry for the long-winded-ness, but I'm still 'pumped' from that one.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, this guy KNEW how to work a pile-up. He announced his callsign VERY regularly, and told everyone that he was listening up 2kc each time he announced his callsign.

[kl7aj]

Quote[/b] (k4lem @ Mar. 30 2006,06:07)]is such a waste of time. I mean 300 stations spread out over at least ten khz causing obnoxious QRM to others.

I have noted some of these wanna work DA DX can't even hear the DX. They just throw their signal in the pile causing additional QRM. Why can't the DX ask for call areas in US or tell callers where the "h**l" he is listening.

This guy in PJ last night was loud. I would only call for a signal report to inflate my ego 599, when I know he is giving 599 to Euros at 339 actual RST.

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Just kidding. (Not about the fish...the DX)

eric