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KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 01:17 AM
Just an idea, but it might be fun.
w4hwd
03-29-2006, 01:35 AM
OK!
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 01:38 AM
Quote[/b] (w4hwd @ Mar. 28 2006,20:35)]OK!
HiHi...
Well, I may have opened my mouth too quick. I'd like to hear, or read rather, some conversation by some OFs about it, and I'd love to help get it started. But we might need more than two of us to get a net going. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KI4BNC
03-29-2006, 01:44 AM
count me in.
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KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 01:52 AM
Well, I can suggest it all day long, but I don't own the website, so calling a net under the QRZ name wouldn't be appropriate. Maybe one of the mods could run it by Fred, and maybe we could get some OFs involved to help get it started.
My gut feeling...My cute little idea and thread will get a bunch of comments, but may get no further. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
XV2PS
03-29-2006, 01:53 AM
Just give your frequency (on 20M if possible) at the edge of the band (where nobody), and that will be it (alleluia) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
w4hwd
03-29-2006, 02:07 AM
How about a 40M freq during the day, like a MIDCARS-type net?
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 02:15 AM
Sounds like a great idea, most people are equipped for 40.
OK, I'm not experienced enough, so please anyone who has put together a net before, jump in here and help!
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Did I open a can of worms? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
N5YFC
03-29-2006, 02:42 AM
How about a CW net??
Wayne
N5YFC
KB3LIX
03-29-2006, 02:50 AM
I'll join in on a SSB net, but CW is a NO-GO for me. I'm too chicken to try CW.
Cluck-Cluck-Cluck !!!
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 02:53 AM
Quote[/b] (N5YFC @ Mar. 28 2006,21:42)]How about a CW net??
Wayne
N5YFC
Hi Wayne!!
Yep, that would be GREAT...You could be the elmer that gets it started.
BTW, I haven't participated in a CW net yet, but I have been making plenty of contacts. I have QSL cards on order to start sending out.
I would like to try to work your station sometime, but I think we must be too close for HF?
I need to get an all mode all band rig with 2 meters so we can do local CW sometimes, but that is down the line on the list as of right now. I need to get my speed up anyway.
BTW, I have a fellow here that I am buying a bencher straight key from, so I'll have my own equipment soon.
w4hwd
03-29-2006, 02:55 AM
Quote[/b] (N5YFC @ Mar. 28 2006,21:42)]How about a CW net??
Wayne
N5YFC
How about both? A 40M net one day a week and a 40M CW net one day a week? Seems to be in the beginning all you would have to do is start a post with the day and time of the net(s). Go from there based on participation level.
Here's an example:
Saturday, 1500Z, 7260kHz +/- 5kc SSB net
Sunday, 0000Z, 7120kHz +/- 5kc CW net
The high end of the phone band ensures Generals can participate. Having the CW net in the novice subband ensures everyone with HF priviliges can participate.
40M may not be the preferred band for coast-to-coast coverage during the day on SSB, but it is a start and if participation is good, one can always start another on 20M lets say. As for CW, here lately 40M has supported coast-to-coast communications quite well after dark.
ke4pjw
03-29-2006, 02:56 AM
I think it is a fine idea. Would love to put a voice (or fist) with some of the calls I see here on qrz.com
kf6rdn
03-29-2006, 02:56 AM
Does it have to be a "net"? Call it a get together. Lets join the 21st century and call it a Rave. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
How about a noon and midnite get together. There's a net on 2.35, on midnite, maybe we could get just under that - 2.31, trying to think if that's covered by broadcasters. I'm not sure what's open in the noon side.
w4hwd
03-29-2006, 03:00 AM
Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Mar. 28 2006,21:56)]Does it have to be a "net"? #Call it a get together. #Lets join the 21st century and call it a Rave.
I like rave.
KB3LIX
03-29-2006, 03:02 AM
Nothing new,
My XYL says I "Rant and Rave" all the time !
I got the Rave part covered.
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KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 03:04 AM
I think that would be cool, but gosh dang it, I'm too chicken poop to be the one to get it going.
It seems if we did it RIGHT, we would have Fred or somebody sponsor it, and post times or something on the website...Yes, a CW AND a SSB net would be more than appropriate.
I know I am responsible for starting this thread, but I don't know anything about calling a net, though I'd love to learn. Sounds like people think it is a good idea, lets see if one of the OFs would like to help get it going!
KB3LIX
03-29-2006, 03:13 AM
Heath,
It's not like QRZ is SPONSORING the proposed net, it's just a gathering of QRZ contributers. There is no reason that you could not put it together. Just decide when and where, post it and see who responds.
Just because you are newly licensed and not an Old Phart, doesn't mean you can't organize something.
Go for it....
And, don't let SOME of the OF's discourage you. There are always the Gloom & Doom folks trolling around, Ignore them.
They thrive on Gloom & Doom, most of us don't !!!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
kf6rdn
03-29-2006, 03:13 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 28 2006,19:06)]....how about Friday night /Saturday morning at 12 midnight cst #on 3.955 #??
I said "rave" not "rape" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
ai4ep
03-29-2006, 03:27 AM
Ok kids...if it is such a GREAT idea, why aint it already been done ( at least tried ) ?
Nothing will happen...words here is all any one will see --based entirely on actions of the past.
Yes I AM in favor of it, but words here is as far as it will go, and even IF it does occur, it wont last a month.
No convenient time for everyone
No convenient frequency for every one
No convenient day of the week for every one
What about the NCT ( who cant use hf ) ?
Dont they deserve a net too ? { oh, that is right...according to some of you , the N C T are not real amateur radio operators since they have not passed the morse code test }
So carry on...type away. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KD5ZER
03-29-2006, 03:35 AM
Heath, I think the net is a great idea. I'll be glad to help you with it.
73,KD5ZER
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 03:36 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 28 2006,22:27)]Ok kids...if it is such a GREAT idea, why aint it already been done #( at least tried ) ?
Nothing will happen...words here is all any one will see --based entirely on actions of the past.
Yes I AM in favor of it, but words here is as far as it will go, and even IF it does occur, it wont last a month.
No convenient time for everyone
No convenient frequency for every one
No convenient day of the week for every one
What about the NCT ( who cant use hf ) ?
Dont they deserve a net too ? { oh, that is right...according to some of you , the N C T are not real amateur radio operators since they have not passed the morse code test }
So carry on...type away. # # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Well, I WOULD propose an EchoLink net, but could you imagine the responses? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Hey, it was just an idea, or ideer as some might say.
Actually, I think it is doable as a ONCE A WEEK net. Heck, give me a few weeks to get it all figured out, and I JUST MIGHT try to organize it.
I guess, though, I was hoping somebody would jump in and say I'll be the NCS!!!! I tend to stutter a bit, so I wouldn't be the best verbally.
I don't stutter on CW, but I do tawlk reeeeaaaallly SSLLOOOOWWWW, hihi!
Anyway, I am taking it that this has been proposed before and flopped?
As to making it official, I guess all I am saying is if QRZ actually sponsored it and posted it on the website, it would CERTAINLY gain quick momentum and establish itself.
Anyway, the idea just popped into my head while I was checking in to the 3905 Century net, and I was posting on QRZ at the same time, and it just dawned on me that some of the people here ought to fire up the rigs and actually TALK on the air, hihi.
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 03:41 AM
Quote[/b] (KD5ZER @ Mar. 28 2006,22:35)]Heath, I think the net is a great idea. #I'll be glad to help you with it.
73,KD5ZER
OK guys, since I opened up this CAN 'O WORMS I'll take a few days to think about how to go about it LOGICALLY and start something up. I am NOT proficient enough for a CW net, and I ain't got a good enough station to be an NCS at all, really. Not with this half-butt dipole.But, I will at least sleep on this and come back with some ideas, and doggone it, I'll do my part of someone with a good radio voice wants to jump in too.
It just seems logical that the #1 (I take it) ham radio forum should have a net to give us all an opportunity to say hello on the air.
On the other hand, I would hope that all the BICKERING would stay on the forum, http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
w4hwd
03-29-2006, 03:43 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 28 2006,22:27)]Ok kids...if it is such a GREAT idea, why aint it already been done #( at least tried ) ?
Nothing will happen...words here is all any one will see --based entirely on actions of the past.
Yes I AM in favor of it, but words here is as far as it will go, and even IF it does occur, it wont last a month.
No convenient time for everyone
No convenient frequency for every one
No convenient day of the week for every one
What about the NCT ( who cant use hf ) ?
Dont they deserve a net too ? { oh, that is right...according to some of you , the N C T are not real amateur radio operators since they have not passed the morse code test }
So carry on...type away. # # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
This is an idiotic post...judging from past posts, sorry to say, I have come to expect this type of thing from you.
There is not a net in existence that is convenient for everyone. Period. If you can't get on, maybe you can someday. Oh well. The purpose of this is some on the air time; this is NOT an attempt to please everyone.
If we follow your logic that HF nets are exclusionary because one has a NCT license, I have an even better idea...DISPENSE WITH ALL HF NETS! After all, they're discriminating.
Only you can fault the guy for trying. Why are you the great equalizer, the self-appointed representative for NCT's anyway? According to your callsign format, you're an "extra". I guess it's your high post count which leads one to believe you're going to reply to a post whether you have anything useful to add or not.
If you don't want to play, don't - it's that easy. If others want to, they'll be on frequency. It don't get no simpler than that.
KB3LIX
03-29-2006, 03:54 AM
Quote[/b] (w4hwd @ Mar. 28 2006,22:43)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 28 2006,22:27)]Ok kids...if it is such a GREAT idea, why aint it already been done #( at least tried ) ?
Nothing will happen...words here is all any one will see --based entirely on actions of the past.
Yes I AM in favor of it, but words here is as far as it will go, and even IF it does occur, it wont last a month.
No convenient time for everyone
No convenient frequency for every one
No convenient day of the week for every one
What about the NCT ( who cant use hf ) ?
Dont they deserve a net too ? { oh, that is right...according to some of you , the N C T are not real amateur radio operators since they have not passed the morse code test }
So carry on...type away. # # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
This is an idiotic post...judging from past posts, sorry to say, I have come to expect this type of thing from you.
There is not a net in existence that is convenient for everyone. Period. If you can't get on, maybe you can someday. Oh well. The purpose of this is some on the air time; this is NOT an attempt to please everyone.
If we follow your logic that HF nets are exclusionary because one has a NCT license, I have an even better idea...DISPENSE WITH ALL HF NETS! After all, they're discriminating.
Only you can fault the guy for trying. Why are you the great equalizer, the self-appointed representative for NCT's anyway? According to your callsign format, you're an "extra". I guess it's your high post count which leads one to believe you're going to reply to a post whether you have anything useful to add or not.
If you don't want to play, don't - it's that easy. If others want to, they'll be on frequency. It don't get no simpler than that.
Harry,
I couldn't have said it better if given 1000 years.
THANK-YOU !
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 04:02 AM
Well, it's past my bedtime, but I'll bet by the time I read this thread tommorrow, there will be a zillion or so posts on it. The truth is I am VERY surprised that there hasn't been a net already established. SURELY I wasn't the first person to think about it or propose it. I just can't believe it.
Yeah, I don't think it has to be OFFICIAL, so what I might do is just simply PLAN to call an informal unofficial net on a certain frequency, say on Friday afternoon, just to see how much participation occurs. I can download the SOP net procedures from somewhere on the web, and roughly go by that format. I imagine the "nature" of the net would be for contacts, perhaps calls could be made in some kind of sequential order, or something.
A good idea might be to start an "net thread" on the day of the net, and have pre-checkins via the website, and each sequential poster's callsign could be called in order of their post. This would allow some kind of "order" or method to the madness. The net control station could ask that all checkins please post their callsign on the net checkin thread, and then he could read the callsigns out in order of the posts, asking for RF checkins or relays.
ANYWAY, of course the opportunity would be opened up for anyone else to check in, and so anyone could checkinto the net at that time.
At any rate, maybe someone could suggest a frequency that is usually clear, say around 6 or 7 PM EST, and we could go from there.
I am GAME if anyone else has further logistical input. OK, off to bed.
w8cbc
03-29-2006, 04:46 AM
I'm all for it. How about:
Saturday 2000-2300 GMT 14340 kc USB
Sunday 2000-2300 GMT 10140 kc CW
Have a primary and alternate net control at least 1000 km apart for each to fill in the skip zones, and taking a cue from the 7272 crowd, change net controls every hour to keep from wearing them out.
FRF - I played net control for the 1895 gang one evening in October, having never before organised anything involving more than two people. It's not too hard with a good group. Just have scrap paper and a reliable writing implement handy.
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 28 2006,23:02)]Well, it's past my bedtime, but I'll bet by the time I read this thread tommorrow, there will be a zillion or so posts on it. The truth is I am VERY surprised that there hasn't been a net already established. SURELY I wasn't the first person to think about it or propose it. I just can't believe it.
...
I am GAME if anyone else has further logistical input. OK, off to bed.
Great idea. I don't know how many will trade keyboards for key (or mike), but I'd like to see it come about. Might even get my sky-burning antenna to work. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I think a better idea would be to have a place here on QRZ.COM somewhat like a DX spotters board that everybody could post when they are on the air, what frequency, what time, what mode, etc. There would be no replies to the posting, just a quick word and perhaps, a response, but nothing drawn out.
Simply, "I'm calling CQ on 14.240 SSB at 1500Z right now" etc.
If there was a separate forum for that kind of post, a person could check it out immediately.
We will never get a large group together at the same time. There are just too many conflicting schedules. That is one reason the forum is so popular with so many of us. It tends to telescope time as one can read all the posts that have been written out during the last several hours, in just a few minutes, and then type out their own response. That is why it seems that there are a lot of guys exchanging ideas almost immediately, but in reality the timespan is quite lengthly.
How 'bout it Fred. You game to put a sort of "spotter's forum" on the board ?
73, Jim
I think that a net is a great idea. I would def. join in. I have always wanted to hear some of you guys on the air, but I never do, this may be a good chance. I spend a lot of time reading these forums, so I feel like I know all you people, but I never post, I would rather get on the air I supose :-)
-Joe
KB3LIX
03-29-2006, 05:10 AM
Hey EP,
What happened to the post telling W4HWD and me (LIX) how stupid we are ?
And how you were using our own words against us ?
It was on here right before KD8BSR's reply above, now like a ghost, it dissappeared.
I knew I should have quoted it when I had the chance.
You are just too quick with the "Delete" key.
edited for spelling
VE7NOT
03-29-2006, 06:06 AM
make 3.... one on 20 one on 40m and the other on 80 or even 60 prehaps... different times according to obvious propogation and something thats fits all. Maybe the 40m one can be cw
n5tjd
03-29-2006, 06:20 AM
If everyone that regularly posted on QRZ got on the air at the same time... well, my theory is the world would explode.... but what do I know? Seriously, if my schedule allows, I'd love to participate. Either way, I think it would be neat.
Let's see, first there was ham radio. Then there was the Internet where we could talk about ham radio. And now someone wants to have a net on the radio where we talk about things on the Internet which was about ham radio in the first place!
And you know after this net gets going, people will post things here that they heard on the net which is about things they saw on the Internet which was about ham radio.
Or am I the only one who sees it that way??
Scott NĜIU
N1MLF
03-29-2006, 11:04 AM
Scott 'bout summed it up HIHI
I'll check in if & when I can. 40 & above works for me.
Seems odd.. theres RV nets, sewing circle nets, coffee in the mornin nets, masons nets, etc but one of the largest ham forums doesn't...
My hunch is that anyone showing more than a 2 post daily average doesn't spend much time on the air.:p
..JW..
KI4NGN
03-29-2006, 12:21 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: you'll enjoy much less animosity, more meaningful discourse, if you just turn on your EP filter in all threads. Whenever I see "ai4ep" on an entry, I just skip to the next entry. If everyone would do that, he would soon go away. You do nothing but encourage him when you reply, no matter what you say.
Mike
WA2ZDY
03-29-2006, 01:35 PM
There's two problems with an EP filter.
1) If you had an EP filter, you'd think there was no qrz.com. Few posts would appear (except mine of course, but even I'm not up to 10,000.)
2) While his delivery was rough about the issues with a net, he's kinda close. I think there haven't been complaints since his post because he brought it up. But we seriously do have a few malcontents amonst us here, and EP isn't the only one.
That said, Heath, there is nothing to figure out. You pick a frequency, time of day and day of the week, or pick from amongst those suggested, and post a notice here saying "I will be on xx.xxx MHz at xx:xxZ on xxxday. Be there or not, you're choice."
At the appointed hour, get on the frequency, or as close as QRM allows, and say "hello QRZ net, anyone on? This is KE5FRF." Either you'll get answers or you won't. Either way you'll be on the air and doing your part.
I think your idea is great and yes, it's surprising it hasn't been done before that I know of. In fact I've only worked one other guy from here - AF2CW - and that was pre-arranged.
So you, or anyone else, just do it. I'd do it but I'm like you Heath, I don't have a rockcrushing signal here. But if it's a time I can get on I will, even if you do it on phone. (Now THAT'S a major step for me!)
Good luck and by the way, when the NCT class action discrimination lawsuit comes in, I'll contribute to the defence fund. One niece is already a lawyer and one is in school. (Hmmm . . . do I really want to admit that?!)
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 02:12 PM
Well, I am going to give it the "old college try". I'll take the "reigns" at least once, and we'll get people on the air and see how much participation occurs, and go from there.
We'll plan on holding this net on Friday evening, at least THIS experimental go'round. I will post the frequency at an appropriate time on Friday, after I determine a clear one that doesn't already have a routine net or a lot of QRM.
We'll have the net at 7EST, 6CST......(Midnight UTC)
Got that folks? If you want to check in to the "Unofficial QRZ.com Forum Net"...be prepared to tune up a frequency in the 40 meter phone segment this Friday. I will do my very best to call the net. I have only been control operator for a net once before, and it was a spur of the moment thing during Hurricane RITA to help out passing H&W traffic when nobody else was available. So I am needless to say GREEN at it.
OK, if we are going to have a net, it needs to have a name.
How about the ...
"Just Use No Keyboards Net?" (J.U.N.K. Net)
or...."Carpel Tunnel Syndrome Net" (CTS NET) ...."The net that gives your fingers a break" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Just some thoughts. Please add yours
af2cw
03-29-2006, 02:36 PM
You realize Heath you're pushing your luck getting me on phone again right? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif If I make it in from work in time I'll try to check in.
KB3LIX
03-29-2006, 03:27 PM
Friday nights are OK for me, the XYL works friday nights, so me and the beagle are usually bored to death. Iffin its needed, I can act as a relay station, I'm 25 miles south of Pittsburgh and can hear New England, New York and 'Joisey' fairly well. Of course, my Peanut-Whistle signal may not be heard by anyone else, but I'm certainly willing to try.
Friday March 31, 2006 0000z 40 meter phone,
marked on my calendar.
W5HTW
03-29-2006, 03:46 PM
Quote[/b] (ke4pjw @ Mar. 28 2006,19:56)]I think it is a fine idea. Would love to put a voice (or fist) with some of the calls I see here on qrz.com
Some folks would like to, judging by their postings, put a fist TO some of the folks here on QRZ!
Practically, I'm not sure it would work, but only because there really aren't that many people on QRZ at any one time. That may mean getting them together for a fixed time would be difficult. You post at 8 am, I post at 3 pm, another at 9 pm. Getting us all at 8 PM may be a problem.
Then I also wonder, what's the point? So much of the stuff discussed here on QRZ can't go on the airwaves, as it is mostly animosity, and the same thing (code/no-code) over and over.
Now, with that cold water, perhaps a bit of warm. If such a group could remember they were on the air and not on QRZ, so they restrict their derision for others, I, too, think it might be enjoyable. I would have no reservations about talking on the air with just about anyone here, as long as the conversation remained civil. And if it didn't, I know where the switch is.
Oh, another problem with an HF net is far too many of the posters on QRZ do not have access to HF. They get left out. They do, of course, have the option of upgrading and joining in, but I doubt that would be sufficient motivation.
On the plus side, at least we'd be using "real ham radio" to discuss ham radio!
And I like the idea of a 40 meter CW group in the Novice band (before the FCC decides to go ahead and eliminate the Novice bands) as it would be a way of letting those who are working on improving their code get at it. As well, of course, as letting those who have not yet passed a code test, listen in and learn. I'm not much on voice operation anyway, except for an occasional HF net, but would probably get into a CW net. And the speed would be controlled by the slowest person on the net, as everyone would adjust to that speed. I have no problem with that, providing the slowest person isn't 40 wpm.
Keep exploring. In the meantime set a night, time and frequency, and I'll try to join an informal group, if the sked is right and the prop is good enough.
Ed
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 04:05 PM
Quote[/b] (af2cw @ Mar. 29 2006,09:36)]You realize Heath you're pushing your luck getting me on phone again right? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #If I make it in from work in time I'll try to check in.
HIHI RICH!!
Well, I am not comfortable with putting together a CW net. There are nuances to that that would be best left up to way more seasoned ops than I. I think I can handle a fairly relaxed informal phone net, so I will make the first go at it. If it is a success, maybe the CW guys in the S.P.A.R. group could put together a joint effort SPAR-QRZ net, just to try it out and have a go with it. I would certainly check in, and most likely be the one who sets the pace. ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Anyhow, I chose phone for this planned event because it is the most inclusive, because most everyone knows how to talk http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif , but some folks have never really used CW and it would allow any and evrybody to join in.
Is it compromising my principles if I enjoy CW AND phone, BTW? hihi
Actually, CW is more fun for me, because I have a tendency to get tripped up over my own tongue when I'm nervous, and CW takes that problem away for me.
Anyhow, there it is, we'll do it...And if ANYONE, ANYONE AT ALL wants to save me the embarassment of being the NCS, please feel free!!!
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 28 2006,22:27)]What about the NCT ( who cant use hf ) ?
They can use HF if they simply apply themselves a little. If someone like me (who absolutely HATES CW) can muddle through it, so can they.
Quote[/b] ]Dont they deserve a net too ?
That's what Echolink is for. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
kl7aj
03-29-2006, 04:10 PM
This is a CAPITAL idea, ol' sport!
Eric
kl7aj
03-29-2006, 04:15 PM
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 28 2006,18:17)]Just an idea, but it might be fun.
You do realize, of course, this might force everyone off of QRZ.com and require them to get On The Air. Perish the thought! This could be a devastating blow to Echolink, to have hordes of hams suddenly start communicating with actual R.F.! You could upset the balance of the universe.
Just so you know.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
eric
kl7aj
03-29-2006, 04:17 PM
Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Mar. 28 2006,19:56)]Does it have to be a "net"? #Call it a get together. #Lets join the 21st century and call it a Rave. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #
How about a noon and midnite get together. There's a net on 2.35, on midnite, maybe we could get just under that - 2.31, trying to think if that's covered by broadcasters. #I'm not sure what's open in the noon side.
Or even better, a "Rant" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
KI4NGN
03-29-2006, 04:43 PM
Quote[/b] (WA2ZDY @ Mar. 29 2006,06:35)]There's two problems with an EP filter.
1) If you had an EP filter, you'd think there was no qrz.com. #Few posts would appear (except mine of course, but even I'm not up to 10,000.)
2) While his delivery was rough about the issues with a net, he's kinda close. # I think there haven't been complaints since his post because he brought it #up. #But we seriously do have a few malcontents amonst us here, and EP isn't the only one.
But he is the only one with 10K+ posts...which means his malcontent responses are widespread, consuming reading bandwidth. I don't doubt that once in a while he may have something legitimate to say, rough or not, but most of the time he does not, and as far as I am concerned that cancels out any time I will spend reading his posts. I'm sure he does not care. But as I said, if everyone ignored him, then he'd either go away or grow up.
Mike
w8cbc
03-29-2006, 04:57 PM
Will you damn kids quit fighting? There's people trying to sleep in here. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Bah. I gotta work 'til 0200 GMT so I'll miss Friday evening.
Who's for 20 metres at 2000 GMT Saturday, 14340U give or take?
WA5VQM
03-29-2006, 04:57 PM
I'd give it a shot even though nets are so 20th Century. I like "rave".
I'm not that crazy about nets but would probably swing by every once in awhile to say "hi".
I love CW but would prefer phone for friendly get-togethers with a group.
73, Mark
WA9SVD
03-29-2006, 05:02 PM
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 28 2006,19:15)]Sounds like a great idea, most people are equipped for 40.
OK, I'm not experienced enough, so please anyone who has put together a net before, jump in here and help!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Did I open a can of worms? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Worms don't come in cans; they live in dirt.
But do we REALLY need another net to clutter the HF bands???
Besides, it would quickly degenerate into an OF/NF, Know code/no code, Echolink is God's Gift/Echolink is the Devil's handiwork, Hobby vs. Service, ARRL is God's gift/ARRL is the Devil incarnate" type of arguments. It's bad enough those arguments often get out of hand here on the Internet, (and at least let people vent their frustrations, etc on line, rather than on the air) but to incite violence by taking that on the air would be ill-advised. IMHO, of course, YMMV.
BTW, I'm not sure about the "assumption" that most people are "equipped for 40."
Somebody post the definite freqs. and times and I will try to be there.
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 05:14 PM
Quote[/b] (n3jja @ Mar. 29 2006,11:08)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 28 2006,22:27)]What about the NCT ( who cant use hf ) ?
They can use HF if they simply apply themselves a little. If someone like me (who absolutely HATES CW) can muddle through it, so can they.
Quote[/b] ]Dont they deserve a net too ?
That's what Echolink is for. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Well, an HF ssb net is going to happen, even if I am the only check-in.
I will reiterate how it will work.
Friday morning, I am going to start another fresh thread titled something like "QRZ.com forum member 40 meter net....A go for this evening"...something to that effect.
OK, my topic starter post is going to give an outline of instructions of how the net will proceed. I will roughly follow the standard SOP for an NCS. I have an outline already.
IF you plan on checking into the net, PLEASE post your name, callsign, and QTH. I will use the sequential order of QRZ posts as a "pre-checkin" list, sort of like how club nets go by callsign prefixes and such.
AGAIN, this will be a fresh thread on Friday morning.
I will not post the exact frequency for the net that morning. I will wait until around 23:00 UTC to post the "start" frequency, and if we have to, we can QSY. I want to be certain that we don't QRM another net or suffer QRM ourselves, as certain as possible anyway.
I will conduct checkins with the list, but before I will ask for any priority or emergency traffic.
After I have run through the list, I will ask for further checkins who did not post, or who aren't neccessarily active QRZ forum members. I will make a complete list of those stations to post in the thread after the net.
The "purpose" of this net as I see it is to allow QRZ members to contact each other, say hello, perhaps exchange QSL cards. After all checkins are complete, I will go back and ask each checkin from the top of the list if there is a station they would like to contact, and give them the opportunity for a short hello and exchange of QSL information. This way if there are any "friends" on the forum who have never spoken, they get the opportunity, and cards can be exchanged.
Obviously, this net is not for paperchasing, at least not at this point, hihi. It is going to be informal, but I will ask that the standard RST report be given, and relevant callsign,name and QTH information be provided.
My signal propogates OK across the country, but I will probably be weak in some areas. I hope evryone can copy me. If not, I will ask next time, (if there is a next time) that a bigger station take the reigns.
Anyway, this is just an experiment for fun, it doesn't have to be a big deal, just a get together.
I want EVERYONE to realize that this is an amateur radio net, not an internet....so appropriate conduct is expected. If you don't like ME, or anyone else on the net, turn the VFO, flip the switch, go away. It does nobody any good to try to mess it up for everyone. Undoubtedly there WILL be a rotten apple that will try to spoil it, but we'll do our best to move on.
So, mark your calendars. It should be fun.
73 and CU Friday.
Oh yeah, any and all suggestions are welcome. And if ANYONE has a good outline for a net script, please feel free to email me!
One more thing...for Technicians without phone privelages: I apologize, but the very nature of VHF/UHF makes having a DX type net very difficult, even when there is a BIG 2 meter band opening, 2 meter FM is only good for contacts less than 500 or so miles usually, and ssb is only a little better. 6 meters is good for a DX net when the band opens up, but that isn't going to happen on Friday, I'm sure. Besides, I don't have 6 meter OR VHF/UHF sideband capabilities, just 440/144 on FM.
I encourage somebody to put together a similar net in that portion of the bands, even if it IS an EchoLink net, just to try it out. One problem with EchoLink is that a large CONFERENCE server is required for nets with a significant number (4,5 or more) of ops. The bandwidth occupied my multiple parties can be quite large, so even if everyone was on a cable modem, packet losses are sure to be a problem. At any rate, if a QRZ echolink net got started, linking a whole bunch of repeaters and radios across the country, it would be cool, but I don't have the use of a conference server at my disposal.
Anyway, nothing more to add, thanks.
ai4ep
03-29-2006, 05:20 PM
what ever the frequency, let us be SURE to have a lot of ECHOLINKs hooked up to that frequency...so those who are N C T will not be left out. Remember now, no discrimination...FCC rules.
got to play fair, now kids.
been a reading all these old threads and posts about how " ECHOLINK " is so great, fine and dandy & LEGAL. So make use of the technology that you have.
Go for it. Quit tapping on the keyboard and let us hear some noise on the radio.
What ?
You mean we have to wait for a Saturday to have this communication on a radio ?
Why not today / tonight ?
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 05:22 PM
Quote[/b] (wa9svd @ Mar. 29 2006,12:02)]Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 28 2006,19:15)]Sounds like a great idea, most people are equipped for 40.
OK, I'm not experienced enough, so please anyone who has put together a net before, jump in here and help!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Did I open a can of worms? #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Worms don't come in cans; they live in dirt. #
But do we REALLY need another net to clutter the HF bands??? #
# #Besides, it would quickly degenerate into an OF/NF, Know code/no code, Echolink is God's Gift/Echolink is the Devil's handiwork, Hobby vs. Service, ARRL is God's gift/ARRL is the Devil incarnate" type of arguments. # It's bad enough those arguments often get out of hand here on the Internet, (and at least let people vent their frustrations, etc on line, rather than on the air) but to incite violence by taking that on the air would be ill-advised. #IMHO, of course, YMMV.
# #BTW, I'm not sure about the "assumption" that most people are "equipped for 40."
well, its only an experiment, I think everyone will remain civil. Aren't we ALL licensed amateurs?
Naysayers everywhere!!!!
Anyway, 40 is a good band for that time in the evening. 20 is too, but its got to be one or the other, so I'll go with 40, at least for THIS installment/experiment.
I don't have 30 meters, and I can BARELY tune my dipole up with a tuner for 80 and get a weak signal out, but not good enough for a NET.
I have the ability for 15 and 10 meters, and yes, 15 is an good band for daytime contacts, but I work during the day, so at least if I am going to NCS, it needs to be on 40 meters. So, there it is. Frequency to be announced on net day, close to net time, so that we don't step on any toes.
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 05:27 PM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 29 2006,12:20)]what ever the frequency, let us be SURE to have a lot of ECHOLINKs hooked up to that frequency...so those who are N C T will not be left out. #Remember now, no discrimination...FCC rules.
got to play fair, now kids.
#been a reading all these old threads and posts about how " ECHOLINK " is so great, fine and dandy #& LEGAL. #So make use of the technology that you have.
#Go for it. #Quit tapping on the keyboard and let us hear some noise on the radio.
What ?
You mean we have to wait for a Saturday #to have this communication on a radio ?
Why not today / tonight ?
No, Friday, not Saturday.
God, I think if you want EP, I'll call the thing off if you want to be grumpy about it. geeesh. Let some fresh blood have a little fun!
I have been on many an echolink net, but I WILL NOT hook HF up to echolink. There is NO POINT, and it would be ILLEGAL to allow techs to transmit on HF, so that won't happen.
However, I DID say that I think an EchoLink net for QRZ forum members is a GOOD idea, and I for one would help with it if I had conference server space at my disposal. Maybe the MissLynk guys who post here might host a QRZ net on EchoLInk. I would DEFINATELY check in.
PE1RDW
03-29-2006, 05:32 PM
How about tying in the dx interest group teamspeak server more info (http://www.delta-india-golf.com)
there swls outside the propangadation range of the net can listen and hams with any valid licence can check in.
KB3LIX
03-29-2006, 05:35 PM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 29 2006,12:20)]what ever the frequency, let us be SURE to have a lot of ECHOLINKs hooked up to that frequency...so those who are N C T will not be left out. #Remember now, no discrimination...FCC rules.
got to play fair, now kids.
#been a reading all these old threads and posts about how " ECHOLINK " is so great, fine and dandy #& LEGAL. #So make use of the technology that you have.
#Go for it. #Quit tapping on the keyboard and let us hear some noise on the radio.
What ?
You mean we have to wait for a Saturday #to have this communication on a radio ?
Why not today / tonight ?
Troll Alert !
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KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 05:41 PM
Quote[/b] (PE1RDW @ Mar. 29 2006,12:32)]How about tying in the dx interest group teamspeak server more info (http://www.delta-india-golf.com)
there swls outside the propangadation range of the net can listen and hams with any valid licence can check in.
Quote[/b] ]Vell, P I 1 R D V , I joost hefe-a tu tell yuoo I cun't understund a vurd ooff zee URL yuoo pusted! Thunks fur zee inpoot, boot zee oonly fureeegn lungooege-a I cun berely understund is French. Bork Bork Bork!
Swedish Chef translator furnished courtesy of this swedish chef translator URL, bork! bork! (http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/jbc/bork/bork.cgi)
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif In case you don't know, there was a famous Jim Hansen's Muppets character named the Swedish Chef, a funny skit, and some guy developed a "translator" program and it is all over the internet. Please don't be offended, it is all in good humor, but the language on the website you furnished is "ALL GREEK" to me.
PE1RDW
03-29-2006, 06:36 PM
The link to the english info is a bit hidden but there is a link to english info on there http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
say hi to the chef if you see him, I love when he cooks birds http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
KA7RRA
03-29-2006, 06:45 PM
Count me in has long it is on Saturday or Sunday or in the morning during the week I work swing
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 09:25 PM
This might be a little difficult, but I am considering trying a little test run, just a get together in the next little while to see if any QRZ people will meet up on 40 meters.
I am going to find a clear frequency and post it to see if some of you guys can catch my signal.
I'll post it shortly
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 09:30 PM
OK, I am right now on 7.263 ...It is clear at the moment, so if anyone at all wants to jump onboard and see what QRZ posters show up, I'll be right there.
af2cw
03-29-2006, 09:44 PM
Nothing heard here but an AM broadcast station. Whew, no mic use today http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 29 2006,16:30)]OK, I am right now on 7.263 ...It is clear at the moment, so if anyone at all wants to jump onboard and see what QRZ posters show up, I'll be right there.
Hope you're around for another 45-50 minutes. I'm still at work.
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 10:07 PM
Quote[/b] (af2cw @ Mar. 29 2006,16:44)]Nothing heard here but an AM broadcast station. Whew, no mic use today http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
hihi!!
Very funny, Rich. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I hope your key finger doesn't cramp up using the PTT!
I am still there, calling "CQCQ qrz.com FORUM MEMBERS" every so often
af2cw
03-29-2006, 10:23 PM
Gee tnx Heath!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #I don't use my key hand with the mic, I wouldn't want to damage it holding that PTT button. #Seriously though, nothing here but AM broadcast.
ae6yd
03-29-2006, 10:32 PM
To clarify- Will the net be at 0:00 Zulu, 3/31/06 (which translates to 16:00 pacific time, 19:00 eastern time on Thursday the 30th) or at 0:00 Zulu, 4/1/06 (1600 PST/1900 EST on Friday)?
My power supply went QRT when I tried to send CW, but if I can get it fixed by then I'll be there. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 10:42 PM
Quote[/b] (KF6CZG @ Mar. 29 2006,17:32)]To clarify- Will the net be at 0:00 Zulu, 3/31/06 (which translates to 16:00 pacific time, 19:00 eastern time on Thursday the 30th) or at 0:00 Zulu, 4/1/06 (1600 PST/1900 EST on Friday)?
My power supply went QRT when I tried to send CW, but if I can get it fixed by then I'll be there. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
HA!
OK smartypants.. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
For all US and North American stations, the net will be as follows....
7pm (1900EST)FRIDAY
which translates to 6pm (1800CST) or 5pm(1700mountain) or 4pm (1600PST)
I've been on the frequency for about 30 minutes, and several NON-QRZ hams joined in, and KB3LIX, Bill, was the only forum member I heard. Of course, Rich AF2CW tried but couldn't hear me, so I'll cut him some slack. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I'm beginning to wonder how many people here actually own radios . http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 10:45 PM
BTW, I am not on the radio right now, I'm taking a break, my PTT finger cramped up and I need to let it rest... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ab8ma
03-29-2006, 10:58 PM
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 29 2006,22:45)]BTW, I am not on the radio right now, I'm taking a break, my PTT finger cramped up and I need to let it rest... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
What frequency aren't you on? I will listen for your call. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I just heard some people on that frequency, but it was pretty light, after I check into this CW net I usualy check into, I will see if I can join you guys.
Joe
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 11:10 PM
OK, I just finished a QSO with KE4PJW, another QRZ.com "frequenter"
Frequency is 7.263 LSB
getting a drink, I'll be back momentarily.
Edited for mistake on KE4PJW's callsign.
ae6yd
03-29-2006, 11:11 PM
Really wasn't trying to be "smart", was just confused. I'll do my best to make it, but no promises. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
ke4pjw
03-29-2006, 11:11 PM
Hey Heath, good talking to you on 7.263
--Terry
af2cw
03-29-2006, 11:16 PM
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 29 2006,17:45)]BTW, I am not on the radio right now, I'm taking a break, my PTT finger cramped up and I need to let it rest... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Try using VOX. It'll save wear and tear on your thumbs http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 11:16 PM
Quote[/b] (ke4pjw @ Mar. 29 2006,18:11)]Hey Heath, good talking to you on 7.263
--Terry
Hi Terry. Yes, Great talking to you.
CZG, I was just kidding. I know you weren't being smart. I joke like that sometimes.
Yes, Terry, you have a fine sounding station and a very CLEAR radio voice. My hint of Hillbilly in my accent sometimes trips me up, but I manage.
OK, I have my coke, and my throat is fresh
CQCQcqcq........
Stop, wait a minute, the AM just started POUNDING through, I'm going to QSY.
Where are you going to QSY to? The broadcasts are pretty heavy here also.
ab8ma
03-29-2006, 11:27 PM
Seem to have problems now on 7.263. Where you guys at?
ai4ep
03-29-2006, 11:40 PM
What ? !!
You mean that the N C T folks will not be able to participitate in this net ?
Why , if I were one of them, I would be terribly upset..
They spent all that time and hard work and even spent some of their hard - earned money to become licensed amateur radio operators, and now some one is going to try to tell ALL of them that they can not participitate in a simple net, with others who post messages here on this site ?
With modern technology like it is, surely there IS a way to make it happen.
Surely some of you can make it happen, if you WANT it to happen bad enough.
The N C T just want to have fun with their radios, too.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
ke4pjw
03-29-2006, 11:47 PM
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 29 2006,10:16)]Quote[/b] (ke4pjw @ Mar. 29 2006,18:11)]Hey Heath, good talking to you on 7.263
--Terry
Hi Terry. Yes, Great talking to you.
CZG, I was just kidding. I know you weren't being smart. I joke like that sometimes.
Yes, Terry, you have a fine sounding station and a very CLEAR radio voice. My hint of Hillbilly in my accent sometimes trips me up, but I manage.
OK, I have my coke, and my throat is fresh
CQCQcqcq........
Stop, wait a minute, the AM just started POUNDING through, I'm going to QSY.
I appreciate it, though I still think I speak like a hick. What's really funny is I do get a few compliments on my audio. My mic is a $20 computer headset made by Compaq, that I wired up for my IC-725 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
http://groovin.net/ke4pjw/headset.jpg
ab8ma
03-29-2006, 11:48 PM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 29 2006,23:40)]What ? !!
You mean that the N C T folks #will not be able to participitate in this net ?
Why , if I were one of them, I would be terribly upset..
They spent all that time and hard work #and even spent some of their hard - earned money to become licensed amateur radio operators, and now some one is going to try to tell ALL of them that they can not participitate in a simple net, with others who post messages here on this site ?
With modern technology like it is, surely there IS a way to make it happen.
Surely some of you can make it happen, if you WANT it to happen bad enough.
#The N C T just want to have fun with their radios, too. # #
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Maybe it is that new 3 grand computer, all bells and whuffles. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 29 2006,18:40)]What ? !!
You mean that the N C T folks will not be able to participitate in this net ?
Why , if I were one of them, I would be terribly upset..
They spent all that time and hard work and even spent some of their hard - earned money to become licensed amateur radio operators, and now some one is going to try to tell ALL of them that they can not participitate in a simple net, with others who post messages here on this site ?
With modern technology like it is, surely there IS a way to make it happen.
Surely some of you can make it happen, if you WANT it to happen bad enough.
The N C T just want to have fun with their radios, too.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Hey, Bob,
Either join in, or have a steaming cup of Shut The Hell Up. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
What a jackass...........
KE5FRF
03-29-2006, 11:53 PM
Sorry, i had to answer the doorbell and help the neighbor (the one who complains about my antenna) move a piece of furnature. (((POLITICS)))
I just asked if 7.275.5 was clear, and it is, so if anyone wants to come around there, that's where I'll be.
ai4ep
03-29-2006, 11:58 PM
Surely there should be a way the N C T can be able to join in on this idea.
Dont you think they would like to say " hello " to other folks whose messages they see here on the internet ?
Who knows, some of them might even want to say "Hello " to YOU.
ab8ma
03-30-2006, 12:01 AM
7.275.56
Well, I heard a couple of ya chatting with some interesting comments, but sadly, I can only hear a few of you in Maine. AB8MA, I just heard your pretty decent signal.
Joe
ab8ma
03-30-2006, 12:37 AM
Congratulations Keith.
Nice qso on 7.275.56
ab8ma
03-30-2006, 12:43 AM
Keith, you did good. Thank you.
ab8ma
03-30-2006, 12:49 AM
Well. I would call that a success!
That was really cool.
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 12:52 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 29 2006,18:58)]Surely there should be a way the N C T #can be able to join in on this idea.
Dont you think they would like to say " hello " to other folks #whose messages they see here on the internet ?
Who knows, some of them might even want to say "Hello " to #YOU.
EP, you know good and darn well that it is not plausable to have a net on a uhf/vhf frequency with the band conditions and solar cycle as it is, not unless we want to have a localized or regional net, and that would "exclude" people as well. hey, besides not all extra,advanced, and general ops even own VHF/UHF equipment, so it just would be an "ex-clusive" net anyway you slice it. Even EchoLink might exclude people who have trouble with routers or firewall issues who can't download it!
Anyway, the IMPROMPTU net was a success 2nite. I counted 8 checkins including myself.
KB3LIX
KE4PJW
AB8MA
K4SGT...(not a QRZ frequenter, but a good friend of mine who JUST happened to stumple on)
N3JJA
W0LPQ
W1SK
and myself, KE5FRF
Thanks to everyone who participated. The first installment of this little experiment was a SUCCESS, despite blatant QRM
thanks
ai4ep
03-30-2006, 12:53 AM
I might join in around 7;10 ~ 7;15 pm cst...if that is ok with you folks.
Hook up your tape recorders, call up all the neighbors and tell Mr. Bush I will not be available for consultation on running this great country between 7 & 8 pm cst tonight...that he is on his own. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
AI4EP (Robert)
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 12:56 AM
Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Mar. 29 2006,19:49)]Well. I would call that a success!
That was really cool.
Thanks Bob, hopefully it might catch on, and maybe somebody will "take the reigns" and start a CW net as well!
Heck, N5PVL could try calling a packet net, and so on and so forth...Charles, are you listening?
Lets get off our tushes more often and fire up those old rigs! Just inspect them for cobwebs and make sure there aren't any cockroaches residing in them first! hihi http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 12:59 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 29 2006,19:53)]I might join in around 7;10 #~ #7;15 pm cst...if that is ok with you folks.
Hook up your tape recorders, call up all the neighbors and tell Mr. Bush I will not be available for consultation on running this great country #between 7 & 8 pm cst tonight...that he is on his own. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
AI4EP #(Robert)
EP, Robert..I still have the rig tuned to that frequency, but the AM stations started rolling in real bad, and all. I will be there in and out if you want to try calling me. The net is over now, though, so there may not be anyone else to say hi.
N1MLF
03-30-2006, 01:00 AM
7236 is fairly quiet here 'cept for my damn furnace... Will call / listen for a bit.
..JW..
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 01:15 AM
AI4EP, Robert, does have a rig!! #He has been QSOing on 7.275.5 for the past 5 minutes.
Just had to throw that in, Bobby, I'm sure folks will be glad to know that you aren't just a QRZ ham, hihi http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
All in good fun!
ke4pjw
03-30-2006, 01:17 AM
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 29 2006,12:15)]AI4EP, Robert, does have a rig!! He has been QSOing on 7.275.5 for the past 5 minutes.
I hear you, but I can't hear him. Oh well. He must be running a G5RV. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif **KIDDING** The band has gone "long" here.
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 01:22 AM
Quote[/b] (N1MLF @ Mar. 29 2006,20:00)]7236 is fairly quiet here 'cept for my damn furnace... Will call / listen for a bit.
..JW..
I'm sorry I didn't hear your call!
Like PJW said, the band has gone long, and there is the usual AM garbage, so I would have had trouble anyway.
N1MLF
03-30-2006, 01:23 AM
I just qsy'd to 7.275.5 but was buried in foreign b'cast.
7236 still fairly clear..
JW
N1MLF
03-30-2006, 01:28 AM
Sometimes ya just gotta say "OH WELL!!"
Trying's half the fun.
I'm around about every night & sometimes during the day so 40, 20, 17, 15 is available here & I'm willing to try anyone, anytime I'm home.
..well there goes the ding -a-ling on 7236..
Another time folks.. thanx for trying.
JW
ab8ma
03-30-2006, 01:31 AM
I don't want to sound selfwish here folks, but I had fun.
It was a pleasure to talk with ke5frf, kr4sgi,, and n3jja.
Sorry I could not make it with W1SK. I will make that a priority.
73 de Bob
ai4ep
03-30-2006, 01:38 AM
Yep, all I have is a G5RV...40 feet at highest / 6 - 7 feet at lowest. Null at NE & SW directions ( should be anyway )....and NO it aint going no higher !! hi hi
FRF is a lot nicer on the air than here on the internet. ( hee hee hee ).
I expected to hear more call signs , or some qrm, but just heard the noise from the AM station.
Best part is...when / if you folks decide to change frequencies, it is as simple as making a post here at qrz...
--- on another topic...this might inspire a couple of N C T to get their code requirement out of the way and join us on HF.
---and --- will this be a daily net , or bi weekly or weekly ?
( no I dont think it is quite ready to go 24 hours at 7235.56...mebbe tomorrow !! )
Any how, good to talk to FRF, talk to the rest of you good folks later.
AI4EP ( Bobby)
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 01:55 AM
Quote[/b] ]FRF is a lot nicer on the air than here on the internet. ( hee hee hee ).
Hey wait a minute!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Indeed, i have had a FEW run-ins with some people here. Heck, even N3JJA and I mixed words a few times, but we tried to be CIVIL about it.
What THAT is a reflection of is my OPINIONATED personality. I DO NOT care to hold back how I feel about things, and I never will. BUT, I always make the best attempt to be diplomatic and respect the opinions of others, even when they are the polar opposite of my own.
Internet forums provide a very good vehicle for expressing oneself, but guess what, I am just as opinionated and outspoken in the real world too, but I try to be diplomatic and civil there too.
The only place I refuse to get deep into opinions is on the radio, and thankfully THAT tradition of ham radio is for the most part still intact.
Nice QSO, Bobby, thanks.
Thanks guys, that was a lot of fun. I hope that next time the propagation to the northeast is a little bit better. I could barely hear FRF and PJW, I will def. tune in next time.
Thanks to N3JJA for relaying my check in.
AB8MA, I heard you calling me, when I called you back, you must not have heard me. I had you at just above my noise level around S7.
73 and untill next time!
Joe
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 02:35 AM
Just to tie a final ribbon on the "internet" side of our net, I want to encourage more people to join in the next go'round. I was pleased that six(6) people who saw mention of our little experiment decided to join in, but vastly dissapointed that more didn't show up.
If you had shown up, you would have been witness to the fact that the illustrious AI4EP ACTUALLY DOES OWN radio equipment, and he did in fact make it on frequency as a "late check in", bringing our total to 9.
Apologies to N1MLF who obviously made the attempt to jump in, I think you were a tad too late, and didn't realize that we had QSYed until the net was over.
SOOOO...I think I am going to try it again on Friday, and the invitation still stands for 7pmEST/4pmPST, frequency to be determined close to the net starting. I will be starting a thread sometime on Friday, and as I outlined before, this NET will be conducted with a little more formal structure to it. I would ask that all participants make a quick post on the new thread that I start on Friday letting me know your intention to check in. this way, I can run down the list in a semi-structured way. I will at a point also ask for other check-ins, QRZ.com or otherwise, and add their name and call to the list. I will then proceed in much the same way as today to turn it over to a roundtable type of format.
So, there it is. Being that this is a somewhat informal net, and we are "associating" it with QRZ.com, I PERSONALLY would love it if Fred and some of the moderators dropped in too, and made their comments on it. Or even a commentary via this or another thread would suffice. I don't think anyone cares about us holding the net, nor do I think there is a problem with associating it with QRZ.com forums, but it would be nice to possibly help it GROW if some kind of stamp of approval was placed on it.
Heck, if it grows big enough, it might even be nice to have a QRZ.com link added to help promote it.
ALL IN THE SPIRIT OF GOOD FELLOWSHIP AS HAMS.
ai4ep
03-30-2006, 03:23 AM
...frf...it did strike me as VERY unusual that no one else came on the frequency while you & I were talking....the fact that none of the others had a single word to say....to YOU or I.
so many, then so few just a few short minutes later.
ai4ep
03-30-2006, 03:36 AM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif I guess all those hateful words I have read on the internet had real thoughts & emotion behind them.
...nothing else to say...
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Quote[/b] (ke4pjw @ Mar. 29 2006,20:17)]Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 29 2006,12:15)]AI4EP, Robert, does have a rig!! He has been QSOing on 7.275.5 for the past 5 minutes.
I hear you, but I can't hear him. Oh well. He must be running a G5RV. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif **KIDDING** The band has gone "long" here.
I heard them both.... barely......
BC QRM was hammering me pretty hard.
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 03:44 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 29 2006,22:36)]http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif # I guess all those hateful words I have read on the internet had real #thoughts & emotion behind them.
...nothing else to say... # # #
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Well, EP, I can't speak for anyone else, but I for one hate nobody, and I've enjoyed your participation on qrz.com
No, i'm not sucking up! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KI4CIA
03-30-2006, 04:17 AM
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 29 2006,20:44)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 29 2006,22:36)]http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif I guess all those hateful words I have read on the internet had real thoughts & emotion behind them.
...nothing else to say...
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Well, EP, I can't speak for anyone else, but I for one hate nobody, and I've enjoyed your participation on qrz.com
No, i'm not sucking up! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Bobby, I think they were still in shock that you REALLY DO have a radio http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
kf6rdn
03-30-2006, 04:32 AM
Quote[/b] (KA7RRA @ Mar. 29 2006,10:45)]Count me in has long it is on Saturday or Sunday #or in the morning during the week I work swing
You & me both.
kf6rdn
03-30-2006, 04:36 AM
Quote[/b] (n3jja @ Mar. 29 2006,15:50)]Either join in, or have a steaming cup of Shut The Hell Up.
They have that at Starbucks yet? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
kf6rdn
03-30-2006, 04:44 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 29 2006,19:36)]http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif # I guess all those hateful words I have read on the internet had real #thoughts & emotion behind them.
...nothing else to say... # # #
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Seriously.. I would like to talk to you on the air. I gather alot of your stuff here is tongue in cheek even if others dont see it.
However I missed this thread until now. And I work swing, so I won't be able to checkin...
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 04:49 AM
RDN, this is just in the ground stages...perhaps if things work out, somebody else could be NCS for an early daytime net. I am a dayshift guy, so I can't.
KB3LIX
03-30-2006, 05:58 AM
Heath, and everyone else that joined him tonight, sorry I couldn't join you, I just got home from the VE session and having dinner afterwards at about 2330.
Long night. As I explained to Heath on 40 today, the VE group was scheduled to administer a test to a visually impared fellow tonight, and I didn't want to miss that session. We read the questions to him as he is totally without sight. Very nice guy, and I was pleased he did so well. He passed with flying colors and will be a new General once he appears on the FCC ULS.
Hope to see everyone on Friday night.
kf6rdn
03-30-2006, 06:23 AM
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 29 2006,20:49)]RDN, this is just in the ground stages...perhaps if things work out, somebody else could be NCS for an early daytime net. I am a dayshift guy, so I can't.
That would work.. Although I realize most folks work day/off evening/sleep nights. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
And actually if it's late enough, I might be able to pop out to the car for a few a try to checkin.
kd5rjz
03-30-2006, 07:42 AM
I'll see if I can't make the net on Friday.
PE1RDW
03-30-2006, 08:31 AM
What was the utc time again? I'll see if I can get my zigzaged dipole tuned up on 40 meters and work the net in split (I'm still not alowed above 7.1)
N1MLF
03-30-2006, 10:05 AM
Perhaps, as this settles into a bit more organization, we can find a daytime freq on 20 or 17 that's workable as well as an evening slot on 40.
Personally *I* would like to see it as a daily event to keep the interest going. Case in point.. theres an ARIES net in eastern Maine that happens only once a month... most folks completely forget about it & i've seen weekly nets have that happen as well. However, if it's on a daily basis working a couple different freqs then it has a better chance for folks to find an opportunity to check in. Sure, most of us work & have family obligations so we can't make ALL the callups but I feel a daily sched would be easier to keep going... so what if there's only a half dozen.. perhaps the next time there'll be a different half dozen.
In fairness to Fred, admin & mods of QRZ, their stamp of approval sould be requested & perhaps the net times posted on the front page.
Though I didn't fair well on our initial trial run it was fun & I'm looking forward to the next chance.. So theres my .02!!
73..JW..
ab8ma
03-30-2006, 02:23 PM
Quote[/b] (W1SK @ Mar. 30 2006,02:26)]AB8MA, I heard you calling me, when I called you back, you must not have heard me. I had you at just above my noise level around S7.
73 and untill next time!
Joe
We will certainly have to try again. But Norway is a bit of a stretch for me on 40 hi hi.
Bangor? A bit easier perhaps. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
W0LPQ
03-30-2006, 02:49 PM
Bob you sounded pretty good here south of Indy. JJA was not bad either just over S9.
Will listen on Friday.
Bill, W0LPQ
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 03:37 PM
PE1RDW,
The UTC time will be 00:00 (midnight at Greenwhich)....so, in your neck of the woods it will be very late over in Europe. It will also be Saturday morning, and not Friday evening, just so we are clear.
I hope my station was performing well enough to be an effective Net Control. My apologies for not having a "big gun" station.
The idea of doing it daily is GREAT, but I absolutely COULD NOT be net control on a daily basis. That would probably be a job better suited for a retired ham who has the ability to draw up his own schedule. Sometimes I have to work overtime, ya know.
Anyway, thanks again, you all sounded great, and I was pleasantly surprised at just how many of you I was able to hear very well.
W3MIV
03-30-2006, 03:46 PM
It would be helpful were you to put the frequency and time you plan to operate in your signature the way Pierre (XV2PS) does. I would like to see about checking in if I can, but am not interested in going back and searching through all of the posts to find out where each time.
If anyone starts a CW net, I'll try and check in. I can't run it because I'm QRP only.
kl7aj
03-30-2006, 04:20 PM
be sure to swing them thar 40 meter beams up norf. (Too bad it's not on 80 meters....3763 would be an easier frequency for me to rememberize, cuz it's my address. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Eric
kl7aj
03-30-2006, 04:22 PM
And yes, there ARE 3763 people in Alaska. (Although I'm one of the last ones. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif )
eric
Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ Mar. 30 2006,11:20)]be sure to swing them thar 40 meter beams up norf.
Who the hell has a 40m beam? Certainly not me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
kl7aj
03-30-2006, 05:21 PM
Quote[/b] (n3jja @ Mar. 30 2006,09:39)]Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ Mar. 30 2006,11:20)]be sure to swing them thar 40 meter beams up norf.
Who the hell has a 40m beam? Certainly not me. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Well, I have a V-beam...but it's not exactly "swingable" HI.
eric
Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ Mar. 30 2006,12:21)]Quote[/b] (n3jja @ Mar. 30 2006,09:39)]Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ Mar. 30 2006,11:20)]be sure to swing them thar 40 meter beams up norf.
Who the hell has a 40m beam? Certainly not me. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Well, I have a V-beam...but it's not exactly "swingable" #HI.
Any antenna I have that's "swingable", is above 30Mhz. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
All HF antennas here are either wire loops or verticals.
Pretty hard to "swing" a 365 foot horizontal loop, or the 40 foot square vertical loop. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
ab8ma
03-30-2006, 05:51 PM
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 30 2006,15:37)]The idea of doing it daily is GREAT, but I absolutely COULD NOT be net control on a daily basis.
Sorry. You have been duely elected. Or is that dually. Maybe daily.
KB3LIX
03-30-2006, 05:55 PM
Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Mar. 30 2006,12:51)]Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 30 2006,15:37)]The idea of doing it daily is GREAT, but I absolutely COULD NOT be net control on a daily basis.
Sorry. You have been duely elected. Or is that dually. Maybe daily.
Is that the same as ' TAG, You're IT' ??
Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Mar. 30 2006,12:51)]Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 30 2006,15:37)]The idea of doing it daily is GREAT, but I absolutely COULD NOT be net control on a daily basis.
Sorry. You have been duely elected. Or is that dually. Maybe daily.
I believe that's "duly volunteered against your will". #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
ae6yd
03-30-2006, 06:08 PM
FRF, I would volunteer for net control, but even if I get my rig running it'll be even less of a big gun than yours. Perhaps when I get my power supply I'll take some of your duties.
KB3LIX
03-30-2006, 06:19 PM
Hey,
I have heard of "Big Guns"
I have heard of "Little Pistols"
But what comes after those categories. Like 3-4 levels on down ?
That's where I fit into the scheme of things.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
KI4CIA
03-30-2006, 06:26 PM
Pip-squeaks?
FRF - I'll help too. I don't have a big gun station either, but if none of the big guns want to volunteer then they'll have to settle for us! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif BTW - I run 100 watts, not QRP but no amp either.
As for a CW net ... slow speed or medium speed? Sorry, not up to high speed yet. Finding a frequency might be a little tough ... unless you go with 14.125 but that keeps out the novices and tech-plus.
I plan to check in Friday night too ...
ae6yd
03-30-2006, 06:32 PM
Slow-speed CW net, please! 5-7 WPM or so, for us hopeless newbies! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ab8ma
03-30-2006, 06:42 PM
Quote[/b] (KF6CZG @ Mar. 30 2006,18:32)]Slow-speed CW net, please! 5-7 WPM or so, for us hopeless newbies! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
At least you are a newbie. I'm just hopeless. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Mar. 30 2006,07:23)]Quote[/b] (W1SK @ Mar. 30 2006,02:26)]AB8MA, I heard you calling me, when I called you back, you must not have heard me. I had you at just above my noise level around S7.
73 and untill next time!
Joe
We will certainly have to try again. But Norway is a bit of a stretch for me on 40 hi hi.
Bangor? A bit easier perhaps. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Actually... I am at school in Orono, which is just about 5 miles north of Bangor http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
73,
Joe
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 06:57 PM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Mar. 30 2006,10:46)]It would be helpful were you to put the frequency and time you plan to operate in your signature the way Pierre (XV2PS) does. I would like to see about checking in if I can, but am not interested in going back and searching through all of the posts to find out where each time.
OK, well, Until things get a little more "OFFICIAL", we'll say that the time of the net will be 00:00 zulu, at least if I am going to run the darn thing, hihi.
OK, for all interested parties, we will be having ANOTHER test run at 00:00 zulu TODAY. I know that is confusing, because 00:00 zulu is TOMMORROW over in Greenwhich, so I'll lay it out a little more "clearly-like"
7est
6cst
5mst
4pst
In other words, in about 5 hours from the time of this post.
So, WE are going to START OUT on the following frequency 7.275.5 ....The same frequency where we winded up last night. I only hope the frequency is clear.
So, there you have it. This Net is again, going to be informal, just another practice run, and hopefully we can "rustle up" some more folks and get them to pull their radios out of the closet and fire'em up.
A little hint for all the OF keyboard commandos who might want to join...If you look in the paper today, there might be a few garage sales going on. With any luck, some SK's estate might be out there. SOOO.. you might luck up and find an HF rig cheap. Go down to Home depot and buy some 14 gauge wire, about 65-70 feet of it to give you some trimming room, and fashion one of those EASY-for-SHNEEZY Dipoles you are always bemoaning posters about not knowing how to build. You can still pick up coax at Radio Shack, so you ought to be able to get on the air, with a good garage sale find, for about 100 bucks. PLEASE join us today and we'll have a Good'ole time! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 07:42 PM
I take it that everyone is scanning the newspapers looking for garage sales? hihihihihihihi http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 08:11 PM
HAAHH!!
Well, the moderators finally approved the photo I put on my bio page (Got tired of the little joke picture I had on there before)
So, just for your convenience, here is what the guy who talked to yoooz guyz last night looks like (I'm the nerdy looking on on the right)
http://www.qrz.com/hampix/f/r/ke5frf.1143688635.jpg
The "little man" in the middle is my boy, his name is Phoenix, and my Dad Bill is on the left.
Phoenix was 4 in that picture. He's 5 1/2 now, grows like a weed and is too "big for his breeches" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Anyway, enough family pride. Hope some of you show up this evening.
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 09:19 PM
OK, I just "drew up" an outline for the net control procedures, roughly based on my past experience as a net check-in, and on an outline provided by KB3LIX. The changes I made more appropriately reflect the purpose of this net.
Anyway, I made it a JPG file, but it is somewhat big, so I'll just provide THIS LINK. (http://i2.tinypic.com/smucs7.jpg)
Please critique it, make modifications if you wish. If you do choose to modify it, please do it in actions as well as words, hihi! In other words, post an edited version. My fingers are tired of typing. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I'm a little dissapointed that nobody thus far has mentioned an intention to participate today. Are we losing steam already?
73, FRF
KB3LIX
03-30-2006, 09:21 PM
Hey Nerdy......I mean Heath
That little guy looks like he just might be a handful, Good lookin Kid.
Sorry I can't join you again tonight, there is a club board meeting at 1930, and I have to pick one of the other guys up and take him to the meetin' as well.
So far, nothing in the way for Friday night though. If the meeting would be cancelled for some reason, I'll be at the appointed freq and time, but I doubt its going to be cancelled. We have a lot to discuss because we have a technician license training class coming up in April, and our instructor just had coronary stents put in the other day, and most likely will not be able to teach the class.
C U all tomorrow night.
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 30 2006,16:19)]I'm a little dissapointed that nobody thus far has mentioned an intention to participate today. Are we losing steam already?
Thursday night is "Out to Dinner" night. Won't be back until 9 pm.
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 30 2006,14:19)]OK, I just "drew up" an outline for the net control procedures, roughly based on my past experience as a net check-in, and on an outline provided by KB3LIX. The changes I made more appropriately reflect the purpose of this net.
Anyway, I made it a JPG file, but it is somewhat big, so I'll just provide THIS LINK. (http://i2.tinypic.com/smucs7.jpg)
Please critique it, make modifications if you wish. If you do choose to modify it, please do it in actions as well as words, hihi! In other words, post an edited version. My fingers are tired of typing. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I'm a little dissapointed that nobody thus far has mentioned an intention to participate today. Are we losing steam already?
73, FRF
I am going to be listening http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 09:29 PM
R-R-R
No big deal, any and all welcome, family matters come first!!!
So does food, personal hygene, and housework!
Then , we play radio.
Just wanting more old farts to jump in and say hello.
KB3LIX
03-30-2006, 09:35 PM
A thought just hit me,
one of the guys at the meeting has an HF mobile. IF, his screwdriver antenna is setup to tune 40 meters, I just might try checking in before the meeting.
I say IF his screwdriver is setup for 40 meters, because the last several times I saw him, he still had the 160 meter additional resonator screwed on from when we worked a special event station back in early February.
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 09:47 PM
Quote[/b] (KB3LIX @ Mar. 30 2006,16:35)]A thought just hit me,
one of the guys at the meeting has an HF mobile. IF, his screwdriver antenna is setup to tune 40 meters, I just might try checking in before the meeting.
I say IF his screwdriver is setup for 40 meters, because the last several times I saw him, he still had the 160 meter additional resonator screwed on from when we worked a special event station back in early February.
Well, if you do, get all the folks there to grab the mic!
OK, common others!!! This IS a worthwhile little thing we are doing, no less worthwhile than ANY OTHER net on the air, especially if you like ragchewing.
(ANY AND ALL STATION, PLEASE CHECK IN)
W3MIV
03-30-2006, 09:48 PM
Thank you for posting a time and frequency where I could find it easily (I'm old and slow).
I will try to check in to your net this evening, but the frequency does not look good from my QTH due to the presence of foreign BC. I just checked it out of curiosity and it is wall-to-wall Spanish (S9+10 - 20) as of 2147.
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KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 09:55 PM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Mar. 30 2006,16:48)]Thank you for posting a time and frequency where I could find it easily (I'm old and slow).
I will try to check in to your net this evening, but the frequency does not look good from my QTH due to the presence of foreign BC. I just checked it out of curiosity and it is wall-to-wall Spanish (S9+10 - 20) as of 2147.
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OK, well, this is just a starting point, and if there is a lot of QRM at the time the net starts, we will QSY.
I was LEARY about posting a set frequency, out of fear that the frequency might be in use or near some QRM, but I guess we have to start somewhere.
I just tuned there myself, and indeed it is a little noisy, but hopefully it will clear up a bit as the evening draws near. I hear some AM music, sounds like rock style, from my QTH.
W0LPQ
03-30-2006, 10:04 PM
Earlier you mentioned Friday. Tonite is XYL out to dinner. Not sure when we will be home, but will give a listen on 40M.
Bill, W0LPQ
Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 30 2006,20:42)]I take it that everyone is scanning the newspapers looking for garage sales? hihihihihihihi http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Nahh,
I already have the Rig, A 7 Element Force 12 Beam , A 7 band Vertical and 150 feet of Long Wire..Oh, yea, and An Amp.
When I die, Someone will have a Field day cause I know the XYL will just give the stuff away to the first guy that comes and takes it all down for her! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
CYA later today..
Gordon
N6WK
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 10:08 PM
Quote[/b] (W0LPQ @ Mar. 30 2006,17:04)]Earlier you mentioned Friday. #Tonite is XYL out to dinner. #Not sure when we will be home, but will give a listen on 40M.
Bill, W0LPQ
Yes, we are doing it Friday too, but 2nite is another practice run, just another opportunity to get more people involved.
Any and all welcome both evenings.
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 10:09 PM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Mar. 30 2006,17:05)]Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Mar. 30 2006,20:42)]I take it that everyone is scanning the newspapers looking for garage sales? #hihihihihihihi http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Nahh,
# #I already have the Rig, #A 7 Element Force 12 Beam , A 7 band Vertical and 150 feet of Long Wire..Oh, yea, and An Amp.
When I die, Someone will have a Field day cause I know the XYL will just give the stuff away to the first guy that comes and takes it all down for her! # # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
CYA later today..
Gorodn
N6WK
GREAT GORDON!!!
Please do check in...in fact, I'll expect you to be the "big gun with the big ears" that helps relay checkins.
CU 2nite.
ai4ep
03-30-2006, 10:34 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif I see no reason to even listen...no one has apologized for their remarks in print....not even one.
I guess it is easy to "smart off " on the internet, but it takes a real man to apologize.
So that is why things are as they are.
Simple & to the point.
AI4EP http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 10:38 PM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 30 2006,17:34)]http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif # I see no reason to even listen...no one has apologized for their remarks in print....not even one.
I guess #it is easy to "smart off " on the internet, but it takes a real man to apologize.
So that is why things are as they are.
Simple & to the point.
AI4EP # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Did I say something to offend?
I was just joking around about you "really" having a radio. I didn't mean anything by it at all.'
Get a thicker skin, Bobby, really. Some of these guys may say something, and it may indeed be a little bit of a jab at you, but you shouldn't take it personal. PLEASE, we all want everyone to check in and participate. You have a fine sounding station, and I could use the help pulling out weak signals and perhaps relaying my signal when the need comes!
wb7dmx
03-30-2006, 11:28 PM
ok, what was the time and freq yous came up with ?
KE5FRF
03-30-2006, 11:37 PM
OK, net begins in about 20 minutes.
Frequency 7.275.5
May the Gods of RF bless us with good propogation!
W3MIV
03-30-2006, 11:56 PM
I am here.
KI4CIA
03-30-2006, 11:57 PM
Amen!
I'M AT 7275.5 BUT ...Wait, someone is there in the Noise..... No Copy Here!
Sorry !
Gordon
KE5FRF
03-31-2006, 12:08 AM
OK, the net is going on, I have had 2 checkins folks!
lets get it going!!!!
We are on 7.275.5, a little QRN/noise, but lets get it going!
KF0RT
03-31-2006, 12:19 AM
I can hear some very faint voices under a steady S6 noise level here. 40 meters seems a little "short" this time of day.
73, Rob
KE5FRF
03-31-2006, 12:31 AM
hey rob...
stick around, scott n5krc is in texas, he might be able to relay.
KD6NIG
03-31-2006, 12:34 AM
Monitoring right now, can't transmit (Tech!). #Hearing stuff in the distance in Stockton, CA. #I can hear N6WK pretty well though, no S meter reading but clear.....
We've got a thunderstorm going on here right now though, so we have some pretty good atmospheric noise goin also at the moment.
N4AUD
03-31-2006, 12:34 AM
OK, I didn't log in here first. I was worried the net would be over before I could check in. Can barely hear KF0RT.
I hear Scott N5KRC fairly well. We should try this Net on 20 Meters !!
Gordon
N6WK
I'm listening in - I've got noise running S5-S7. I have less than 50% copy on KE5FRF, KI4CIA is a little bettter, K1ALK is S9. I also hear N5KRC (I think). There are a couple of others in there, but they are way down in the noise.
-Ron, N2JSO in NJ
Edit - managed to check in with a relay via K1ALK. Thanks, Audie!
N4AUD
03-31-2006, 12:46 AM
That was fun! Short, but fun. Noise was horrible.
KF0RT
03-31-2006, 12:50 AM
Quote[/b] (K1ALK @ Mar. 30 2006,17:34)]OK, I didn't log in here first. I was worried the net would be over before I could check in. Can barely hear KF0RT.
Listening, but haven't transmitted -- everything is too weak out here. Might be fun to try this after dark or on 20...
Might be fun to have a real antenna for 40, too. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Edit: I have a PIPELINE to Southern Ca on 20 most days.
73, Rob
N4AUD
03-31-2006, 12:52 AM
Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ Mar. 29 2006,18:50)]Quote[/b] (K1ALK @ Mar. 30 2006,17:34)]OK, I didn't log in here first. I was worried the net would be over before I could check in. Can barely hear KF0RT.
Listening, but haven't transmitted -- everything is too weak out here. Might be fun to try this after dark or on 20...
Might be fun to have a real antenna for 40, too. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
73, Rob
Well, I heard somebody (he says sheepishly) but couldn't tell who it was.
KI4CIA
03-31-2006, 12:58 AM
Good job Heath!! Lots of fun!
N5KRC
03-31-2006, 01:03 AM
Excellent job Heath, especially for your first net! Noise got bad towards the end, with a carrier starting to creep up, but it came out rather well I think! You were a solid S5-S7 or so most of the time, Melinda was a little lower but still copyable, and everyone else seemed to be just above the noise floor. N6WK rose up from nowhere to an S9 here for a second or two, and then faded back out fairly quickly but at least heard enough to confirm another check-in.
Any way, great job, can't wait to do it again! Won't be able to make the Friday nights though...
Scott, N5KRC
KE5FRF
03-31-2006, 01:05 AM
OK, the net was as much of a success 2nite as yesterday, and we had some attempts, but band conditions didn't help, unfortunately. VERY noisy to say the least.
OK, here is the list of forum member checkins....
W3MIV
K14CIA
N5KRC
K1ALK
N6WK
N2JSO
W0LPQ
KE4PJW
and...KD8BXZ...happened by and checked in non-forum.
I counted 10 including myself, but doggone it, let me go back and run down the list to make sure. I'll edit if I remember another.
THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE PARTICIPATION!
ab8ma
03-31-2006, 01:08 AM
Sorry I missed you guys.
Sorry I didn't get the radio turned on before the net ended, but I did hear several stations here in Hagerstown.
I would have a suggestion, though. It would be much better if you zero beat the foreign broadcast carrier. The frequency you chose tonight had about a 600 or so hz beat tone that made it a bit difficult to hear everybody, although Bill LPQ came in like gangbusters here. I also heard a YL operator and MIV was in there too.
I don't know what the sky is supposed to be like tomorrow night. I may be at a "star party" being held at Antietam Battlefield, but if it is cloudy, I certainly will try to check in. I had no idea if it was going to work on 40 meters or not.
There is also some QRN, but signals were by and large above the noise level. My only concern and suggestion would be to zero beat the foreign broadcast carrier in the future.
Great job, Heath! Hope it becomes a regular event.
73, Jim
BTW, I am still on 7275.0 if anyone wants to give me a call.
W3MIV
03-31-2006, 01:12 AM
Permit me to add my kudos, Heath.
I had noise levels here approaching S9 and some horrid Asian music in the mix, but you came through it well until the very end.
Never heard Gordon, though I thought I got a variation in the noise that may have been a voice. I did copy Scott weakly on one occasion then lost him the next. Melinda strong; Terry strong; Bill strong and Audie strong. Never heard a whisper from JSO, which is weird given that he is probably about the same distance northeast of me as Audie is southwest.
I agree with Gordon that we should try a 20m or perhaps 17m?
Fun. thanks.
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KE5FRF
03-31-2006, 01:12 AM
OK, thanks for the complements folks!
Someone needs to record my station for me sometime, and play it back so I can hear myself, hihi.
Well, certainly noise floor conditions did not help, but I think it was great to get some folks in to say hello to each other.
It is REAL easy to forget that the little avatars and callsigns we see every time we post here are actually PEOPLE, and more so, ham RADIO OPERATORS, and most have the same interests as we do, and want to promote the hobby and see it prosper. If nothing else, this net gives us that REALITY to recognize, and an oportunity for fellowship.
73 to all who joined, and I hope this thing grows, and more folks come aboard.
KE5FRF
03-31-2006, 01:17 AM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Mar. 30 2006,20:12)]Permit me to add my kudos, Heath.
I had noise levels here approaching S9 and some horrid Asian music in the mix, but you came through it well until the very end.
Never heard Gordon, though I thought I got a variation in the noise that may have been a voice. I did copy Scott weakly on one occasion then lost him the next. Melinda strong; Terry strong; Bill strong and Audie strong. Never heard a whisper from JSO, which is weird given that he is probably about the same distance northeast of me as Audie is southwest.
I agree with Gordon that we should try a 20m or perhaps 17m?
Fun. thanks.
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OK, well, I for one haven't got 17 meters on the rig, but 20 meters is doable to be sure!
So, What I MIGHT do, is just for tommorrow, go ahead and hold the net again on 40 meters, but next week we will look at 20 meters as a possibility. I have kind of already "advertised" 40 meters for tommorrow, so I think it is appropriate to go through with it there, but we will DEFINATELY experiment with 20 meters next week. I think that is more than doable.
OK, well, time to call my son and tuck him into bed. CU guys later. 73
W3MIV
03-31-2006, 01:24 AM
I will check in on 7275.5 again, though I also like Jim's suggestion to zero-beat the AM rubbish. May make it easier to copy weak ones.
KE5FRF
03-31-2006, 01:30 AM
OK, being the GREENIE that I am, I know (kinda) what zero-beating is, that it involves tuning to the center frequency of a station, etc....but maybe someone can give me a procedure or a link for how to do it, because I have never excercised that method.
Well, Heath, first of all, note your frequency, 7275.5 LSB . Most any broadcaster will not put a carrier on a frequency that is point anything above Zero ! I am pretty sure that the broadcaster that was bothering the frequency tonight was right on 7275.0, and indeed, when I lowered my VFO to that frequency, the carrier beat note disappeared. That is really all the closer you need to get for the purposes of getting the whistle out of the speaker.
I have an older Icom here, and although I can eliminate very high or very low pitched carriers with the Band Pass Tuning, I cannot knotch out anything in the middle of the bandpass, which is where I was having the problem tonight.
Now as far as moving up in frequency, 20 meters just about peters out at around local sunset, and I can hardly hear a thing here on the East Coast after 8 O'clock at night. Next week we will be switching to Daylight Saving Time, so the situation might be better for an hour, but it is pretty unlikely that anybody stateside is going to be able to hear anybody else, short of coast-to-coast contacts because the band is ether very long or dead.
Yours is a work in progress. 40 should be good for us, or possibly 75, but I would not suggest going up in frequency. And remember that the foreign broadcasters stick to even frequencies, for the most part.
Hope this helps! 73, Jim
KI4CIA
03-31-2006, 01:50 AM
You may not have foreign broadcasts on 75 meters like you have on 40, but you'll sure stir up a hornest nest http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I think I'll go scan the CW portions of 40 now ... John's already at work so there's nobody to fuss if I stay up late tonight.
AI4EP ... we missed ya tonight!
KE5FRF
03-31-2006, 01:56 AM
OK, so what you are saying here is, that the AM broadcaster was broadcasting at a center frequency of 7.275.0......so we should have tuned dead on to that frequency to "zero-beat" it?
OK, I understand that this relates to the fact that their signal is AM, and we are actually transmitting on a sideband of the AM signal, with our AM carrier supressed. So, our filter not only supresses our transmitted carier, ot also filters recieved AM carriers on that particular frequency.
Man, I may not be getting this, but I'm trying to reason it out. So, what we are saying here is at the CENTER frequency of an AM broadcast, our sideband filters will not pick up any noise because the carrier is supressed, right?
correct me if I'm missing anything.
ai4ep
03-31-2006, 01:59 AM
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No...no listening (eating ribs for supper ) to a net tonight...just now grabbed a fresh COLD glass of iced tea.
So, now we go back through the last page or two to see if I got an APOLOGY from any one, but I seriously doubt it. Go back through all 18 of the other pages and see for yourself WHO SAID WHAT, and your questions will be answered .
Others, who dont normally make a post here ( arent registered ) are reading this too...after all, this IS the internet....any one on this planet with a computer can