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WA5KRP
03-15-2006, 09:56 PM
The the Cybercast News Service, (http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200603\POL 20060315b.html) a link provided by Drudge, has Pelosi disclosing certain key items from the Democrats "Unified" Agenda. #Among the items:

Quote[/b] ]America lags behind other countries that have universal broadband deployment, Pelosi said; but the Democrats' agenda "guarantees" that every American will have affordable access to broadband within five years.

"We also believe that the nationwide deployment of high speed, always-on broadband and Internet and mobile communications will fuel the development of millions of new jobs in the United States," Pelosi said.



I never thought we'd see another cluster boink with the magnitude of Social Security and Medicare, but there it is folks. #HTF are they going to deploy this monster? #Who will be the providers of what type broadband services? #Who pays what? #Will BPL be the darling nouveau #of the Democrats? ? ? Does this plan include free computers for the masses?

ARRRRRRGH! #I want my mommy! #



WA5KRP #http://smilies.vidahost.com/contrib/ruinkai/peepwallA.gif
Texas

k0ro
03-15-2006, 10:03 PM
AS IF that would create new jobs.

How about breaking the teacher's unions so that there can be school choice and accountability in education! In Europe...which looks down on us as being backward and not progressive...the bucks follow the students.

Your kids aren't getting a good education here? Take them out and send them someplace else. The number one goal of the teacher's unions is to prevent school choice, by claiming it will harm lower-performing, poorer schools; goal two is to keep incompetents from ever being fired!

Of course, guess who gives big time to Nancy's coffers? So we'll throw a few hundred million at this and have a bunch of kids who can now spend more time gaming and god-knows-what-else online, from wherever they live, when they should be studying.

Sounds like job creation to me.

Wait...maybe they'll have to hire more teachers to teach "use of the high speed internet."

73..

K0RGR
03-16-2006, 12:00 AM
I'm encouraged that she didn't say BPL in that quote, but she has said it before. Yes, BOTH parties are pushing it. It's only a matter of time before Uncle Sam coughs up the $$BILLIONS$$ to put a BPL repeater on every power pole in the country. Our only hope is they'll run it above 30 Mhz. like some of the systems do.

nx6d
03-16-2006, 12:11 AM
Quote[/b] (KC2G @ Mar. 15 2006,14:03)]AS IF that would create new jobs.

How about breaking the teacher's unions so that there can be school choice and accountability in education! #In Europe...which looks down on us as being backward and not progressive...the bucks follow the students.

Your kids aren't getting a good education here? #Take them out and send them someplace else. #The number one goal of the teacher's unions is to prevent school choice, by claiming it will harm lower-performing, poorer schools; goal two is to keep incompetents from ever being fired!

Of course, guess who gives big time to Nancy's coffers? #So we'll throw a few hundred million at this and have a bunch of kids who can now spend more time gaming and god-knows-what-else online, from wherever they live, when they should be studying.

Sounds like job creation to me.

Wait...maybe they'll have to hire more teachers to teach "use of the high speed internet."

73..
School choice?

So kids can be "home schooled?" Right.

Or "schooled" by right wing religious nuts? I hope that doesn't happen.

Your cliched comments show you have absolutely no clue about how the the public school system works. Also, do you you have personal knowledge about Pelosi's background and funding while living in Missouri? You don't have a clue.

Dave WX7B
Tulelake, CA

n2nh
03-16-2006, 12:35 AM
Maybe this will have nothing to do with BPL. Many homes that are not in urban areas can be served with new Wi-Fi technology now that they're claiming wide area coverage. I doubt if this is going to make any jobs though. Stop outsourcing and allowing illegal immigrants to work real cheap and there will be plenty of jobs.

n8yx
03-16-2006, 02:22 AM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Mar. 15 2006,17:35)]I doubt if this is going to make any jobs though. Stop outsourcing and allowing illegal immigrants to work real cheap and there will be plenty of jobs.
Of course it won't. We all know that...but...

I've said this many times before: Follow the money. From whom is Ms. Pelosi receiving campaign contributions...wouldn't happen to be from companies developing this technology, would it?

k0ro
03-16-2006, 03:52 AM
Kids can be home-schooled now, without vouchers. #It just means that once again money is confiscated and sent to purposes that some people don't support. #Some people are as adamant against our government education system as others are against the war in Iraq, and believe the government education system does far more to undermine our nation than the war in Iraq ever will.

As for Pelosi's funding, I'll concede that I don't know her funding base...yet...but you've caught me so I'll keep scouring. #She has received a 100% voting-record approval from the NEA each year she has held federal office.

I'm sure you are aware that while she was awarded the UFW's Cesar Chavez award, she and her husband employ non-union labor at their vineyard (relevant due to praise from the union representing hotel service employees). #I'm sure you also know that the hotel in which she and her husband have a substantial interest also uses non-union labor.

The NEA is a tremenous financial supporter of the Democratic party and related PACs and individual candidates. #Some of this is from the organization; some is from the individuals who comprise it.

Home-schooling is fine, and needs no voucher program. #I would support a voucher program that excludes religious-based schools. #I don't think that anywhere in my post I suggested that religious-based schools receive the credits. #I would prefer it if they do, be they Jewish, Muslim, Bahai, Hindu, Buddhist, Catholic, whatever. #But if it took excluding them to create genuine choice for students and their parents, I would support it.

Clichéd comments? #Come on, you're the king of such technique. #Right wing religious nuts comes to mind.

When I hear from people who espouse many of the views that you have, and I hope you feel the same about me, I honestly wish we could divide this country...before we have a majority of voters who pay no income tax and can indefinitely empower the party that is willing to redistribute the most income from the productive. #I'd gladly take my chances in a society that believes individuals most often make the best choices for themselves, where the state is limited to its most basic functions, and where the only guarantee anyone will ever get is opportunity, not outcome. And we'd also have another DXCC entity!

This is not at all a religious issue, lest one wish to make it so. #On most tests I come out a libertarian...not looking to legislate my moral views on anyone. #The Republican party is not "my" party...I think it is less dangerous at this time than the alternative. #

There are those of us who still hope to live in a meritocracy one day. #Tenure? #To protect an academic who holds unpopular, even noxious views? #Certainly. #I really don't care if Warc Churchill likens the victims of the WTC terrorist acts to Nazis (well, little Eichmanns). #But protection for those who no longer care, or perhaps never cared? #Who may or may not have "made it" in a world where they were only as good as their last evaluation, sales production, employee turnover, customer satisfaction index, etc? #Protection for those who are incompetent? No way...get rid of them. Our children deserve better.

I believe that most teachers are good people who truly care; I believe the "system" encourages mediocrity, uniform outcomes, socialist values (yes, let's talk "Rainbow Fish") and, if ever the decline and fall of the U.S. is studied and written (I wonder...in what language will it likely be written?), will be found to have been (perhaps unwittingly) a significant contributor to this fall.

Haven't got a clue? I've seen our local district...not a large one, perhaps 3200 active employees...waste hundreds of thousands of dollars in one small area of its budget, but refusing even to consider cost-containment measures. In this case, it was the District's refusal to consider using a PPO for its work comp treatment...a PPO that would reduce costs, but not choice. The supervisor over this area was able not only to refuse to evaluate such possibilities, but when this was brought to his superiors, was thoroughly supported. This is but one example of the "private kingdoms" that such systems engender. Yes, it was only a few hundred thousand dollars...but the fact that there was no accountability to minimize costs was telling. Until I see our District take reasonable measures on various fronts, I can't support a tax increase. So yes, I have a clue. That probably comes as a surprise to you, and it may also come as a surprise that I wear shoes and have indoor plumbing! Maybe the larger problems are in administration, not the ranks. If so, then there is all the more reason to support school choice, as the teachers will certainly bring enormous pressure to bear on the administration to shape up.

If/when our country does split (and I'd rather that than become a slave to the redistributors), I'll be sure to recommend to the IARU that a P5 call sign be assigned to the part where I don't live.

73,
Art

kf6rdn
03-16-2006, 05:20 AM
Here in California we had a proposition to cut down on tenure.

The teachers union threw so much money at it, the sheeple were convinced their kids would be idiots in minutes after it passed.

Give me choice. If "right wing religious whacks" start in, at least I can change schools. Same as if liberal nutcases forget they are there to TEACH, not politisize.

For now, my kid is stuck in a school that's beginning to have "lockdowns", and this is one of the better regions of SoCal.

AC0H
03-16-2006, 01:24 PM
No one, from either political party, has adequately explained how broadband in every home will produce this massive economic expansion.

It's cool, it's sexy, it's trendy and ultimately useless. Everybody remember the last time we got all hyped up on internet technology? Silicon Valley looked like a smoking hole in the ground after that mess (.com "bubble").

You could do more for the nations economy by spending that money on the often overlooked traditional infrastructure in this country.

It's just rank pandering for votes. The un-informed will go "oooh" and "ahhhh" and vote for the party that promises this crap while the neighborhood bridge falls in the river.

n8yx
03-16-2006, 02:17 PM
Quote[/b] (AC0H @ Mar. 16 2006,06:24)]It's just rank pandering for votes. The un-informed will go "oooh" and "ahhhh" and vote for the party that promises this crap while the neighborhood bridge falls in the river.
Absolutely.

As long as the bulk of her constituency consists of people who are dazzled by bright, shiny things, she ain't going anywhere but back into office.