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If a ham (not me) is convicted of any felony, does he/she stand to be revoked?
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Mar. 14 2006,11:01)]If a ham (not me) is convicted of any felony, does he/she stand to be revoked?
Yes. It's been happening.
ab8ma
03-14-2006, 08:40 PM
I don't remember anywhere on any applications where the future ham is asked if (s)he were ever convicted of a felony.
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K9STH
03-14-2006, 09:35 PM
If some sort of two-way radio was involved (i.e. FRS, MURS, etc.) then the person is definitely forbidden from getting an amateur radio operator's license. Other felonies it depends.
Glen, K9STH
w5klb
03-15-2006, 12:31 AM
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Mar. 14 2006,12:01)]If a ham (not me) is convicted of any felony, does he/she stand to be revoked?
The short answer is a clear "Yes".
Read here. (http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2005/10/04/101/?nc=1)
W5HTW
03-15-2006, 12:59 AM
Once upon a time the application for a ham license included the question, "Have you ever been convicted of a felony?" I think that disappeared during the "rights" crusades.
As someone else said, if the felony involved radio, yeah, your ticket to ride is canceled if they find out about.
Ed
ab8ma
03-15-2006, 01:10 AM
I do know that a felon can get government security clearance, but cannot sit on a jury. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
KA4DPO
03-15-2006, 01:11 AM
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Mar. 14 2006,12:01)]If a ham (not me) is convicted of any felony, does he/she stand to be revoked?
OK, What did you do?
If I recall correctly, Michael "junk bond" Milken lost his amateur ticket after being convicted of numerous SEC violations & going to prison.......Anyone remember this?
Tom kcØw
KC9ECI
03-15-2006, 02:26 AM
And Kevin Mitnick, N6NHG, kept his.
k4lem
03-15-2006, 02:30 AM
Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Mar. 14 2006,20:10)]I do know that a felon can get government security clearance, but cannot sit on a jury. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
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What government are we talking of here? When I worked for the INS it took them SIX months to investigate and finally give me some level, certainly not top level, clearance.
Did that guy, http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif, who was convicted of hacking into .gov computers have a ham license. And I seem to recall the FCC decided to suspend the license. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
KC9ECI
03-15-2006, 02:33 AM
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Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Mar. 14 2006,19:11)]Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Mar. 14 2006,12:01)]If a ham (not me) is convicted of any felony, does he/she stand to be revoked?
OK, What did you do?
As W. said after it was disclosed he got nailed for D.U.I." I've done some things I'm not especially proud of, " (or words to that effect) same for yours truly, but I am NOT a felon.
KA9VQF
03-15-2006, 02:58 PM
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Mar. 15 2006,07:37)]Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Mar. 14 2006,19:11)]Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Mar. 14 2006,12:01)]If a ham (not me) is convicted of any felony, does he/she stand to be revoked?
OK, What did you do?
As W. said after it was disclosed he got nailed for D.U.I." I've done some things I'm not especially proud of, " (or words to that effect) same for yours truly, but I am NOT a felon.
Well,... at least not a convicted felon.
{insert rim shot here}
PE1RDW
03-15-2006, 03:11 PM
I didn't do it, you can't prove anything, I destroyed the evidence.. erm I mean uhm, ..., what time is it? that late? I have to be going.
N4CND
03-19-2006, 11:52 PM
in the state of ga a convicted felon can vote as well as sit on a jury. in the state of fl a convicted felon can't vote nor can he sit on a jury. it depends on what state you live in. the laws in each state varies. also any more in some states if you key your transmitter down and cause interferance wheather or not the interfearance is at the fault of the receiver the transmitting station still can be charged ass a felony. So goober your always causeing interferance on the ham bands he is a felon under fl law. in the state of ca if your driving log book (traffic citation 18 wheeler law) is not up to date its considered a felony, in the sate of nc if your over weight (trucks gross weight) its considered a felony. so anymore you spit on the side walk its a felony. its just another way for the governmnets of different states sway voters weeding out voters as you say. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
N4CND
03-20-2006, 12:00 AM
a convicted felon should be allowed to get on the air. radio just might help the guy go strait. everybody is always ready to hang the next guy; tolerance is what we need to remeber. everyone is not perfic. and some felonies shouldn't be felonies. a felony is murder grand larcency those are felonies messing up the neighbors tv selling a bag of pot log b ook violations shouldn't be felonies http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
ai4ep
03-20-2006, 12:45 AM
...what does it matter about thei indivudual case...the word FELON should be example enough
it works for D U I
it works for death
it works for most every thing else...
why the stupid exceptions... ?
W0UZR
03-20-2006, 07:38 AM
Just imagine. If you transmitt on a ham frequency, or any other frequency other than CB without a license,,,,,,,,,
You Are A Felon !!!!
OOooo,,,, You are a Bad Man !!!!
And you know what? If you are caught, Then you are a CONVICTED felon.
And therefore,, you can't ,,,
Hold elected office of any type
Become a lawyer
Become a doctor
In some states,, Vote
" " " Be on Jury duity
Buy or possess any type of fire arms
And not to say that it will be almost impossible for you to get any kind of good job.
All because you keyed a microphone and transmitted,,,
Without A License....
This must be wrong. I know that if a radio is involved it can happen but for other crimes?
I know a guy that did hard time for child molestation or some sort of sex crimes against children anyway. I think he did like 10 or more years. I used to work with him many years ago. He is not a friend by all means!
He holds a ticket general class today. I just looked him up by name. He did get another license in 1993 I see however. I know he was a general class when he went to jail a number of years before that.
Is there some confusion here or did he just slip by the system?
m0cip
03-20-2006, 07:58 PM
In the UK he would only get his ham licence revoked if he had actuall committed an offence un the "Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949" the law that governs all radio and radio communications.
From October when the UK goes onto Licences for life, he could get a prison sentance, but as long as he renews his licence information every 5 years their is no reason why he would have it revoked.
It is only revoked when the offence is in contrary of the said Act.
N4CND
03-21-2006, 02:11 AM
yes crimes against children should be felonies. but what constitutes a crime against a child. i never even gave this one a thought.
ham radio might help the guy with his problem if he is a peto and paid his debt. being a peto is definatly a felony if one acts on it.
is striking a child for misbehaving consitute a felony?
some kids need a good oldfashion taken behind the wood shed ass wiping is that a felony?
that is whats wrong now some children need spanked http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
w9ass
03-21-2006, 03:12 AM
These proceedings are excessive.
So what if the guy likes to burglarize houses? He will have to live with the moral and legal stigma and consequences of that. If his crimes involved amateur radio, then maybe go yank his ticket. If not, leave him be.
There is a huge trend out there where people think that felons need to be punished more for their crimes. They've already got a nice black mark on their record, most likely are unable to vote, and now they face having their licenses put through the shredder. This is bogus hibbety gibbety, nonsense, fodder for fools, and utter tomfoolery...
And people wonder why felons have such a high recidivism rate when it comes to crime. I would say that the general attitude "I'm already screwed, what difference does it make?" prevails here.
KC9DGM
N4CND
03-21-2006, 03:25 AM
Quote[/b] (KC9DGM @ Mar. 20 2006,20:12)]These proceedings are excessive.
There is a huge trend out there where people think that felons need to be punished more for their crimes. They've already got a nice black mark on their record, most likely are unable to vote, and now they face having their licenses put through the shredder. This is bogus hibbety gibbety, nonsense, fodder for fools, and utter tomfoolery...
And people wonder why felons have such a high recidivism rate when it comes to crime. I would say that the general attitude "I'm already screwed, what difference does it make?" prevails here.
KC9DGM
i could not agree with you more if a guy has paid his debt why is it that he must continue to pay that debt maybe ham radio turned his life around maybe that hazmat endorsement turned his life around. if a felon has turned their life around into a good positive life why should people make the guy pay. if a felon can't have the good life as a result of hard work then don't get to upset when he commits a even more violent crime cause as you say what is the use in tring to live right if i can't enjoy life. as i have said in the past some felonies shouldn't even be felonies. the government is weeding us out if you spit on the side walk its a felony inb communist amerika
what ever happened to reabilatation?
oh we have to rough on these convicted felons for safty it looks like it to me that if they are allowed to have good jobs that pay well they would be less likly to commit a crime again
n9zxk
03-21-2006, 06:38 AM
I wonder if they used to be on cb
Quote[/b] (N4CND @ Mar. 19 2006,21:25)]oh we have to rough on these convicted felons for safty it looks like it to me that if they are allowed to have good jobs that pay well they would be less likly to commit a crime again
I think that they go back to what they know best, to what is easier for them and to what is 'Quick Money'....... rehabilitation is great, until they realize that 'real' work requires effort and that the pay to rebuild diesel engines or make cabinets doesn't equal to that which a doctor or lawyer makes (in most cases).
Quote[/b] (n9zxk @ Mar. 20 2006,00:38)]I wonder if they used to be on cb
No doubt in my mind........