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K6BBC
02-18-2006, 05:59 PM
It has been longed theorized that VP Chaney will not serve out his term as he is not a viable candidate for President. The two Republicans gaining any momentum are both moderates and NOT LIKED by the conservative (and controlling) wing of the party – Rudy and McCain. If Cheney steps down in the next few months, which is likely, who will GWB give his nod too as next President?
I would strongly suggest George Allen, who I will hold my tongue on for the moment.
Any guesses? Is my theory full of holes (in deference to Mr. Whittington.
K6BBC
I will watch Sen. Allen suspiciously from now on.
From what I can tell, I have heard nothing to suggest that Dick Cheney will not serve out his term.
Eric
BBC, are you inferring that an unfortunate hunting accident has anything whatsoever to do with Chaney's ability to do his job as VP ? ? ?
That thought process seems to be widely held by those who would like to find ANYTHING on which to hang the current administration, but is so un-fair that it should be unconsionable to even think or express it !
73, Jim
K6BBC
02-18-2006, 06:52 PM
Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Feb. 18 2006,11:35)]BBC, are you inferring that an unfortunate hunting accident has anything whatsoever to do with Chaney's ability to do his job as VP ? ? ? #
That thought process seems to be widely held by those who would like to find ANYTHING on which to hang the current administration, but is so un-fair that it should be unconsionable to even think or express it !
73, Jim
LOL!
I think the fact DC did not tells his boss about the shooting speaks volumes on how Cheney feels about GWB’s importance. #If DC worked for me, he’d be fired. #The shooting would have nothing to do with it.
Oh, and sorry for expressing my thoughts. #I forgot we are under the rule of The American Taliban Party.
K6bbc
WA5KRP
02-18-2006, 07:18 PM
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Feb. 18 2006,12:52)]Oh, and sorry for expressing my thoughts. #I forgot we are under the rule of The American Taliban Party.
UGH!
Tony,
What on earth makes you think Cheney would resign his office? Are you buying into the fury created by the press when they weren't spoonfed their homework?
The only major fallout from this event is that the public got to see the White House Press Corps act like a pack of disgusting spoiled brats, and hunters will have a reinvigorated respect for gun safety in the field.
Cheney stays. I have no sense of who his successor will be.
Good thread, BBC. It'll be interesting (revealing) to see the replies.
WA5KRP
Texas
KW4MW
02-18-2006, 07:32 PM
This rumor started during the first term when Chaney had his heart attack. #Speculation then was GWB would be looking for a new Veep for his second term. # Didn't happen. #
It will have to be some very unusual circumstances for Bush to fire Chaney and find a new V.P. #A lot more than a shooting accident which has been endlessly overhyped. #
Maybe GWB rues the day that he choose Cheney as his running mate but in terms of party unity, it is in his best interest to keep Cheney on. #The political fallout from GWB canning Dick Cheney would do some serious damage to the upcoming '06 and '08 elections. #Is that what some of you are wishing for? ##
Nope, unless DC comes down with some serious health issues, I don't see him being replaced by someone with a prettier face. #
Sorry boys, it ain't gonna happen.
K6BBC
02-18-2006, 07:49 PM
Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ Feb. 18 2006,12:18)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Feb. 18 2006,12:52)]Oh, and sorry for expressing my thoughts. #I forgot we are under the rule of The American Taliban Party.
UGH!
Tony,
What on earth makes you think Cheney would resign his office? #Are you buying into the fury created by the press when they weren't spoonfed their homework? #
The only major fallout from this event is that the public got to see the White House Press Corps act like a pack of disgusting spoiled brats, and hunters will have a reinvigorated respect for gun safety in the field.
Cheney stays. #I have no sense of who his successor will be.
Good thread, BBC. #It'll be interesting (revealing) to see the replies.
WA5KRP
Texas
Personally, I would like to see Cheney stay and take full accountability for the mess he created in Iraq.
That said, I believe falling on one ones sword for the party is definitely in the vernacular of these guys.
As for the press – what press? They are worse than useless. I think the system broke somewhere between Watergate and Monicagate.
In any event, it’s interesting to muse, as there is not much to watch on TV these days.
bbc
W2ILP
02-18-2006, 08:02 PM
I am sorry to say that getting Chaney to give up the vice presidency may be wishful thinking...but it may have to be done if we want to impeach GWB. When they were working on getting Nixon impeached for Watergate...it was an easy matter to get Spiro Agnew to resign. His political record when he was governor of Maryland did him in. Chaney seems to be a lot more cunning than Agnew and it may be harder to incriminate him for anything... besides being a little hasty on the trigger....when hunting for quail...or terrorists. We shall see.
w2ilp (Incomplete Late Predictions)
Yo OM BBC....
Hilarious post! "Who will be the next VP?" is like asking "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
Still looking for ANY talk about Cheney stepping down. I've seen none, except from your own wishful thinking.
Sorry to disappoint.
By the way, did you know you could contribute to Shrillary's campaign by an automatic payroll deduction? Try it! Give 'til it hurts.
Buh bye.
w5klb
02-18-2006, 08:04 PM
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Feb. 18 2006,12:49)]Personally, I would like to see Cheney stay and take full accountability for the mess he #created in Iraq.
That said, I believe falling on one ones sword for the party is definitely in the vernacular of these guys.
As for the press – what press? #They are worse than useless. #I think the system broke somewhere between Watergate and Monicagate.
In any event, it’s interesting to muse, as there is not much to watch on TV these days.
bbc
Tony,
"Ear" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Could someone explain to me how President Bush can fire and elected Vice President. I must be slow.
K6BBC
02-18-2006, 09:03 PM
Quote[/b] (W5JO @ Feb. 18 2006,13:56)]Could someone explain to me how President Bush can fire and elected Vice President. #I must be slow.
Don’t be naive. Goldwater fired Nixon.
K6BBC
02-18-2006, 09:05 PM
Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Feb. 18 2006,13:03)]By the way, did you know you could contribute to Shrillary's campaign by an automatic payroll deduction? Try it! Give 'til it hurts.
Buh bye.
K6BBC on Hillary Clinton.
Puke.
K6BBC (probably voting for Rudy)
W2ILP
02-18-2006, 10:06 PM
I predict that Dean will be the next Democratic presidential candidate. Hillary may only be his vice.
bbc
Hmmm... If Goldwater fired Nixon.. it must have been when Goldwater was president of the QCWA. I didn't know that Nixon was an old ham.
w2ilp (Inhibit Lumpy Puke)
K7JEM
02-18-2006, 11:13 PM
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Feb. 18 2006,11:52)]Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Feb. 18 2006,11:35)]BBC, are you inferring that an unfortunate hunting accident has anything whatsoever to do with Chaney's ability to do his job as VP ? ? ?
That thought process seems to be widely held by those who would like to find ANYTHING on which to hang the current administration, but is so un-fair that it should be unconsionable to even think or express it !
73, Jim
LOL!
I think the fact DC did not tells his boss about the shooting speaks volumes on how Cheney feels about GWB’s importance. If DC worked for me, he’d be fired. The shooting would have nothing to do with it.
Oh, and sorry for expressing my thoughts. I forgot we are under the rule of The American Taliban Party.
K6bbc
I think the president knew about this, certainly the White House did.
"Between 8 and 9 p.m., Ms. Armstrong recalled, Karl Rove, the president's deputy chief of staff, called her "to check on Harry," who she said was "an old friend of Karl's." She said there was no discussion of what President Bush had been told of the shooting and whether he knew that Mr. Cheney had fired the shots."
The typical protocol would not even involve the VP calling the president; someone with the VP's office would contact the White House, which apparently did happen if Karl Rove is calling Texas within a couple of hours.
As far as Cheney being replaced, since he is an elected official, he can't be fired, only asked to resign. He will make that choice, but I don't think it will ever get that far, unless for health resons.
Joe
kc7jty
02-18-2006, 11:17 PM
The Easter Bunny stands as good a chance as any with the American idiotocrasty that vote. C'mon W...eah, eah, eah, give us brainless wonders some guidance here.
Well, I would put my projection in as Kinda Sleazy Rice for a VP nod. Regardless of Cheny's actions or inactions, he is the man who is a heartbeat away from a fatal heart attack.
Do you realize that Cheney had more heart attacks by the time Dubya first swore in than Dubya's over seas travels? Cheney had like 5 heart attacks in 2001, and Bush had 4 trips overseas by that time.
No doubt, the person at fault for the 9-11 disaster will get the nomination for VP.
N9XR
Whoever wins the election can't win with the people. One look at this board will provide all the evidence you need. At least until we get many of the voters off the public dole.
Quote[/b] ]Whoever wins the election can't win with the people.
Sad, but probably true. I am looking for peace and prosperity and leadership that will get us those objectives. It should not be that difficult.
But some people are more challenged at these challenges than others.
N9XR
K0RGR
02-19-2006, 05:21 AM
I don't see Mr. Cheney leaving office unless half of Congress gets thrown out in the next election, as they should be, and the new Congress impeaches him for something. "High crimes and misdemeanors" is pretty vague, and I don't think it includes failing to have the proper bird stamp on your hunting license.
No, Mr. Cheney is probably more likely to die in office of natural causes.
K7JEM
02-19-2006, 05:38 AM
Quote[/b] (KE7DLG @ Feb. 18 2006,18:58)]I don't see Cheney stepping down. I see too much arrogance to stand up and admit any fault. He said the shooting was nobody elses fault but stopped short of saying it was his fault. His side stepping statements reminded me a lot of the statements Clinton was so fond of using.
BBC, no I am not trying to take it back to it being ok because Clinton did such and such, only saying that I find it hypocritical that the side that complained so much about Clinton is showing the same tact they complained so loud about.
All I can say is Cheney was in Cheyenne the other day and for the first time in this month long stretch that I have been away from home I was happy not to be home in Cheyenne. I don't own any body armor. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I think Cheney took full responsibility for his actions. I don't think anyone is saying or implying anything other than that. Which one of Clinton's remarks was even similiar to Cheney's statement. I don't see the connection, the sidestepping that you are referring to.
Everyone has there own idea about what people should say in a particular situation. Perhaps the words he used didn't suit your taste, but I see no sidestepping of what happened, or any "weaseling" of what happened, he gave a pretty good rendition.
Joe
K6BBC
02-19-2006, 08:43 AM
Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Feb. 18 2006,22:38)]Quote[/b] (KE7DLG @ Feb. 18 2006,18:58)]I don't see Cheney stepping down. I see too much arrogance to stand up and admit any fault. He said the shooting was nobody elses fault but stopped short of saying it was his fault. His side stepping statements reminded me a lot of the statements Clinton was so fond of using.
BBC, no I am not trying to take it back to it being ok because Clinton did such and such, only saying that I find it hypocritical that the side that complained so much about Clinton is showing the same tact they complained so loud about.
All I can say is Cheney was in Cheyenne the other day and for the first time in this month long stretch that I have been away from home I was happy not to be home in Cheyenne. I don't own any body armor. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I think Cheney took full responsibility for his actions. I don't think anyone is saying or implying anything other than that. Which one of Clinton's remarks was even similiar to Cheney's statement. I don't see the connection, the sidestepping that you are referring to.
Everyone has there own idea about what people should say in a particular situation. Perhaps the words he used didn't suit your taste, but I see no sidestepping of what happened, or any "weaseling" of what happened, he gave a pretty good rendition.
Joe
The point is, he should step down for ten other reason. We all know he did not mean to shot the old fat cat, right?
KA7RRA
02-19-2006, 09:08 AM
Quote[/b] (W2ILP @ Feb. 18 2006,15:06)]I predict that Dean will be the next Democratic presidential candidate. Hillary may only be his vice.
Dean and Hillary working together??? That would be one dog and cat fight give me a break
AB1FV
02-19-2006, 12:26 PM
You don't hear that much from Cheney unless...
1. He has had another heart attack.
2. He is in the hospital.
3. He shoots someone.
Other than those 3 listed above, you really don't hear from him. So, IMO, "We have no Vice-President!"
Okay... for the 5,395th time... And I'm typing this r-e-a-l s-l-o-w for those of you who aren't catching on....
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!
What possible connection is there between a hunting accident and the need to resign ANY job? Git a grip, children.
As for Howie Dean running from President again, please do bring THAT on. It will be interesting to see if the same Internet geeks, college children, "alternate lifestylers," soccer moms, stay at home dads, and aging ex-hippies line up again to support him. Last time, all their iddy biddy widdle feewings got hurt after he let them down by laying a big steamy one on the podium on National TeeVee. Most of them are STILL pouting! HAW!!
Out.
Quote[/b] ] I predict that Dean will be the next Democratic presidential candidate. Hillary may only be his vice.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!
I don't care who you are, that's funny.
I've seen mothers with small children actually back away from the TV when that poster boy for birth control comes on.
Iowa may not be as flashy or "important" as other parts of the country but we do have one thing to be proud of. Pushing Howard Dean over the edge. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Feb. 17 2006,14:03)]Yo OM BBC....
Hilarious post! "Who will be the next VP?" is like asking "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
Still looking for ANY talk about Cheney stepping down. I've seen none, except from your own wishful thinking.
Sorry to disappoint.
By the way, did you know you could contribute to Shrillary's campaign by an automatic payroll deduction? Try it! Give 'til it hurts.
Buh bye.
That's not fair Steve. Hillary would be a great VP.
I plan to donate all the money I have been able to save through the healthcare reform she was working on when Bill was in office.
Hm, wonder if I sent her an invoice if her campain would send me a check.
Seriously -- all this Hillary Hype. Can anyone name anything she has done since she has been in office (besides the photograph she used to scare the rats out of the basement) that has helped anyone or made this country better?
Frankly, she is nothing more than another high paid finger pointer.
The Democrats (and we) can do better.................
KW4MW
02-19-2006, 06:19 PM
Look on the bright side people. #
Everybody bird hunter in Texas knows that they had better get that damn stamp right now! #
"I didn't realize I needed one #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" just ain't gonna cut it with the Wildlife Officers.
They're probably calling it the Cheney stamp by now. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
KA7RRA
02-19-2006, 06:56 PM
Quote[/b] (w0pee @ Feb. 19 2006,08:03)]I plan to donate all the money I have been able to save through the healthcare reform she was working on when Bill was in office.
You would be better off taking that money and going to Dayton
KB9YCO
02-19-2006, 07:25 PM
I really hope (though I wouldn't be surprised) that the Democratic party isn't stupid enough to nominate Hillary Clinton for anything. Whether some people like her or not is irrelevant, in many people's minds her name alone is enough to bring another Democratic defeat based on the past history or her husband. I think some of the things that happened during the Clinton administration were good, but the stigma attached to the Clinton name and some of his not-so-good actions will not serve to help anyone, the same reason that Gore lost beyond that fact that he was viewed as somewhat of a dolt.
Well, on the bright side, there are just over one thousand days left of the Bush administration, and damn, he can't run again, what a shame.
Someone needs to bring Pat Paulsen (http://www.paulsen.com/) back from the dead!! A common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny!
AB1FV
02-20-2006, 01:33 AM
Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Feb. 19 2006,06:14)]Okay... for the 5,395th time... And I'm typing this r-e-a-l #s-l-o-w for those of you who aren't catching on....
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!
What possible connection is there between a hunting accident and the need to resign ANY job? #Git a grip, children.
As for Howie Dean running from President again, please do bring THAT on. It will be interesting to see if the same Internet geeks, college children, "alternate lifestylers," soccer moms, stay at home dads, and aging ex-hippies line up again to support him. Last time, all their iddy biddy widdle feewings got hurt after he let them down by laying a big steamy one on the podium on National TeeVee. Most of them are STILL pouting! #HAW!!
Out.
# 3 from my list was fact, not fiction. Accident or not! [B]
So was this hunting expedition a double date with Pamela Willeford and Katharine Armstrong? What kind of character is it of a guy who leaves his wife far behind and goes out drinking and carousing with a couple of women? Did Dick have Bush on his mind when his finger was on the trigger?
Oh yeah. He's a republican. This behavior is expected. This behavior is too complicated for us not in power to understand. Clinton had fooled around on a quail hunting trip and shot someone. I've heard them all.
w5klb
02-20-2006, 05:05 AM
Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Feb. 19 2006,19:17)]So was this hunting expedition a double date with Pamela Willeford and Katharine Armstrong? #What kind of character is it of a guy who leaves his wife far behind and goes out drinking and carousing with a couple of women? #Did Dick have Bush on his mind when his finger was on the trigger?
Oh yeah. #He's a republican. #This behavior is expected. #This behavior is too complicated for us not in power to understand. #Clinton had fooled around on a quail hunting trip and shot someone. #I've heard them all.
Now it's gone from a "hunting accident" to the VP having an affair with another woman. Whew! What an imagination!
XR,
Are you getting your information from the "mother ship" or something? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Take your pills, and get a dose of reality.
KW4MW
02-20-2006, 05:18 AM
Katharine Armstrong was the landowner and hostess
Pamela Willeford was accompanied by her husband. #
Come on guy, it's the 21st century already. #It is socially acceptable for men and women to mingle in polite company even if their spouses aren't with them. #
Great minds discuss ideas
Average minds discuss events
Small minds discuss people.
Eleanor Roosevelt
Quote[/b] ]Come on guy, it's the 21st century already. It is socially acceptable for men and women to mingle in polite company even if their spouses aren't with them.
You're right. Clinton's affair was in the 20th century.
KW4MW
02-20-2006, 01:42 PM
Quote[/b] ]You're right. Clinton's affair was in the 20th century.
I suppose that meets your discription of polite company too. "Oh pardon me my dear, I seemed to have soiled your pretty dress!" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Quote[/b] ]I suppose that meets your discription of polite company too. "Oh pardon me my dear, I seemed to have soiled your pretty dress!"
You said Quote[/b] ]Come on guy, it's the 21st century already. It is socially acceptable for men and women to mingle in polite company even if their spouses aren't with them.
wa6ccw
02-21-2006, 04:35 AM
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Feb. 19 2006,00:59)]If Cheney steps down in the next few months, which is likely
It isn't "likely" at all. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
k9kxq
02-21-2006, 04:59 AM
Quote[/b] (AB1FV @ Feb. 19 2006,07:26)]You don't hear that much from Cheney unless...
1. He has had another heart attack.
2. He is in the hospital.
3. He shoots someone.
Other than those 3 listed above, you really don't hear from him. So, IMO, "We have no Vice-President!"
Or tells some one to F off... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
kxq
Overheard in Mil-WAH-kee's baseball stadium:
CHAIN CHENEY CHAIN!
GOW BWEWAHS GOW!
CHAIN CHENEY CHAIN!
GOW BWEWAHS GOW!
KD6NIG
02-21-2006, 04:38 PM
Funny, people equating Cheney as being out on a hunting trip to cheat around on his wife-I doubt with his cardiac history that he would be doing much of anything in THAT regard....
As for his resignation-it probably would have happened provided something criminal had come out of the investigation, in which case he probably would have had to serve some kind of jail time. But seeing as the officials who have the jurisdiction over the issue have already cleared him, I guess the press will keep trying to convict him in thier articles. Too bad that you can't be arrested for that kind of conviction though.
If anything, the more he gets attacked, the more he WILL stay in. For him to bail out now would give the press the thought that what they influence actually works. Course, for all the Bush haters, they would love that http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
By the way, all of you pushing for Hillary, you aren't the same ones who were driving around about 8 years ago with the 'impeach Clinton and her husband too' bumper stickers on your car, were you? Funny how a person who had such an opinion just under 10 years ago can now be a viable presidential canidiate.....I don't think so!
kf6rdn
02-22-2006, 04:59 AM
Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ Feb. 20 2006,05:42)]I suppose that meets your discription of polite company too. "Oh pardon me my dear, I seemed to have soiled your pretty dress!"
He didn't know it was loaded!
Heh!hah , http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif