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wa6itf
05-08-2002, 06:43 PM
I’m going to start this commentary with one word: Help!
Why “Help?” Well its now mid-May. The nominating period for the 2002 Amateur Radio Newsline™ “Young Ham of the Year Award” had been open since February 1st. We have announced it at the end of every Amateur Radio Newsline newscast for almost three months. It has been reported on in every Amateur Radio publication as well. Sadly, the response has been sparse.
Normally by now we have received at least a dozen or more nominations. As this is written, all we have are the usual letters asking that we enter a youngster in a contest that some think the award to be. To paraphrase one: “Our 5 year old just got her ham license so send a free radio.”
But that is about it! And for the record; the “Young Ham of the Year Award” is not a contest. Rather its a way to honor the accomplishments of youth in ham radio. It has been that -- and only that -- since it was first presented in 1986.
What does the winner of the “Young Ham of the Year Award” receive? Lets start with a plaque courtesy of Amateur Radio Newsline and sponsored by Dave Bell Associates Inc., a leading producer of high quality television programming and motion pictures. (Dave Bell is W6AQ.)
Then there is a trip to the Huntsville Hamfest and a “gift” of Yaesu brand ham radio gear courtesy of Vertex-Standard U.S.A.. Vertex-Standard (formerly Yaesu USA Corp.) was the founding corporate underwriter of the “Young Ham of the Year Award” and has been a part of the program since its inception.
The young person chosen also gets to spend a week at Spacecamp-Huntsville thanks to the fine folks at CQ Magazine. In fact, it was CQ who came to us with the idea of adding the Spacecamp week. CQ has underwritten it’s cost ever since.
Lastly, additional gifts come from the Rosewood Company. Rosewood is a retailer that offers study guides, antenna books, callbooks, repeater directories, modification manuals, magazines, etc.
The nominating period for this years award closes on May 30th. Just about 2 weeks from now. As it stands, there could be no “Young Ham of the Year Award” presented in 2002 unless we begin to receive more valid nominations. And that is where you come in.
Do you know of a young ham -- age 18 or younger? One who has accomplished something really special using Amateur Radio? Well, what are you waiting for? Now is the time to nominate that person.
Does your radio club have a youngster who has been an outstanding member. Maybe one who does far more for the club that most of the grown-up hams? Again, what are you waiting for? This very moment is the time nominate that boy or girl.
How about that quiet young ham who is always willing to volunteer in public service events? You know; the one who does everything from organizing the communications to keeping the club repeater operating. Ill say it once again: What are you waiting for? Nominate that person.
I think you get the idea.
OK. How do you file a nomination? Simple. You go to http://www.arnewsline.org, scroll down to Young Ham of the Year Award. Click on the rules. Read them. Next, click on the nominating form. Download it. Fill it out and mail it in or e-mail it to us. Its that easy.
Or if you prefer the traditional approach, you can request a nomination by mail to “The Young Ham of the Year Award,” Amateur Radio Newsline, Inc.™, Editorial Office, 28197 Robin Avenue, Santa Clarita Ca. 91350. Thats the same address to file nominations on paper.
We at the Amateur Radio Newsline™ believe that the future of our hobby, our service and our nation is in the hands of the young. It will be the next generation of young hams who will be the technologists, public service leaders and political leaders of this new millennium. The Young Ham of the Year Award is one way to guarantee that there will be this “next generation” of ham radio leaders. By nominating a youngster for this award, you take one step to help insure the future of the Amateur Radio hobby/service that we all so love. Please, help make that happen.
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Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF
N1GTU
05-13-2002, 10:32 PM
I received my ham ticket at age 18... that was 1989.
Even then i dont remember meeting any hams younger than me.
I find that now as i am pushing a ripe age of 32 and getting a few greys http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif I am still usually the youngest.
Now we all know that younger hams exist, but every hamfest i go to, every time i get on the air, i have yet too see or hear them.
Is the Internet the new cool hangout for teens?
probably.
Maybe we need to promote amature radio more, have presentations at schools.
Do high schools still have ham radio clubs?
Good luck on the search and may you find a worthy young whippersnapper http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Blaine
N1GTU
VE6BUD
05-14-2002, 03:26 PM
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I received my ham ticket at age 18... that was 1989.
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I received my ham ticket at the ripe young age of 16. That was back in 1990, a few months after the D.O.C (Now the I.S.C) granted no-code privs to >50 Mhz and allowed 5 WPM CW on 160 & 80 Metres.
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Even then i dont remember meeting any hams younger than me.
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Unfortunately, I felt quite out of place in the Calgary Radio community due to my age at the time. I didn't really feel like I had a lot to contribute. As well, due to my lack of education I really felt like I was out of my league.
There were a few hams who were younger than me but unfortunately, it was by quite a wide margin. (One ham if I remember right was 12 yrs old and got his license around the same time I did.) We never really got together all that much.
I found that if I did make any friends, it was over HF or Packet, since VHF Phone made me feel too alienated.
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I find that now as i am pushing a ripe age of 32 and getting a few greys I am still usually the youngest.
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I am 28 now and have gone through plenty of post-secondary education and the like and now feel like I have a lot to contribute to a conversation. I don't feel nearly as alienated but there are few hams here in Calgary who are around my age. Most seem to be in their 40's, 50's, 60's or even 70's.
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Now we all know that younger hams exist, but every hamfest i go to, every time i get on the air, i have yet too see or hear them.
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I suspect that younger hams are a minority in this hobby, depending on where you go and what you do. I'll most likely expand on that below.
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Is the Internet the new cool hangout for teens?
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You see, this is the biggest problem. My YL is 24 yrs old and I once said, "Hey Christine! I just had a conversation with a ham in Sacremento, CA! That's a contact that's nearly 2800 kilometres away!"
You know what she said? # "So?"
The rationale is, Why should one have to go out, study their butt off, get a license, get their CW qualification, purchase nearly $1500 worth of HF gear, worry about purchasing a antenna tuner/power meter, putting up a decent antenna (A mobile, Dipole, Random Wire, etc, etc) and then call CQ for half an hour before getting a contact, worrying about QSB, QRM, QRN, etc, the whole time, when one can simply load up ICQ, put it on "Random Chat" and bingo.. Instant contact.
My answer to her was, "The challenge."
More to the point, with things like SMS messaging, cell phones, On-the-fly ICQ, etc, even FRS... it makes CB or Ham Radio look really antiquated in comparison.
She just doesn't understand. The internet has profoundly changed the way communications is done and talking DX is no longer a viewable archivement by the general public. If you think about it, from the 1920's up to the early 1990's, CB & Ham Radio was kind of like a crude "Internet". (Especially when you think of Packet Radio, woohoo!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif QRP'ers are viewed as self-sadisitc by QRO'ers because of the fact that contacts are that much difficult to make. (At least from what I can see.)
I guess my YL views me in the same light as a QRP'er, doing things the hard way... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I hate to say it, but the internet has resulted in my generation ("Generation X") losing interest in HAM Radio because the rewards (IE. DX) are too easy to come by.
I can only hope that things such as PSK31, APRS, High-Speed (9600 Baud) Packet over TCP/IP, IRLP and 2M radios with built-in TNC's can save this hobby. I'm crossing my fingers!
The key trick is coolness factor. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I have yet to be able to hook my PDA up to a 2m HT with a built-in TNC and do TCP/IP over packet but when I finally end up doing it, I'm sure that some of my friends will be amazed. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
(OK, I could use a cell modem too, but Cell modems take all the fun out of it!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
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Maybe we need to promote amature radio more,
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Perhaps. Again, the big deal here is coolness factor. When we can show people what ham radio can do that nothing else can, that's an awesome start.
More to the point, Contesting is viewed as a hardcore sport for some hams and as much as I hate to say it (I'm a die hard ragchewer) I think that it's one of the very few "Armchair Sports" that are out there and that it certainly does have merit. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
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Do high schools still have ham radio clubs?
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My College had a Ham Radio club while I was taking my courses. The station at the Ham Radio club was so superior to my own equipment that I ended up selling off all of my personal equipment except for one HT and used the club station whenever I could between classes. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif (My HT really was nothing to brag about. It was an ancient Rock-Bound thing that used 10 AA cells (ARGH!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif and was limited to just a few local repeater frequencies. It had a pathetic power output of 200 mW and was only worked decently with a 5/8-wave collapsable antenna!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Blaine, I totally share your views on the whole radio thing. It saddens me in some ways to see my generation blabbing on their cell phones in personal ways when using a radio could be so much cheaper.
(Then again, sometimes I wonder if that would be a good thing. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif )
Oh well... Thanks for putting out your opinions. I hope I don't cause a flame war! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
na7us
05-14-2002, 04:49 PM
Thanks for the reminder to us all.
KG4PZZ
05-14-2002, 09:31 PM
Your memories are my reality right now. At 14 (fifteen in less than a week), I'm one-half of the "young" hams in my local radio club. The other member - 13, I believe - and I rarely get to talk. However, many of the older members are very welcoming and will "dumb down" their conversations for me to join in and add something. As far as getting younger people interested in HAM radio, all I can say is "good luck". The internet seems to rule all. When I told my friends that I heard OK2BJJ (Czech Republic) the other evening, they couldn't understand. Radio, across continents? Couldn't be real. Some passed me off as lying, that a contact like that was impossible. Others seemed apathetic ("So? I talked to South Africa on ICQ the other night."). One out of all 20 or so of them seemed genuinely interested. So in a totally non-scientific study, I found that only 5% of all teenagers would even CARE about HAM radio. So now it's our duty to reach out and get that 5%.
Maybe a good way to recruit would be to find a local school-age operator and do an after-school display to some of his friends (with the young ham present, of course). Major things they would get a kick out of? Well, try packet, SSTV, or DX SSB. Throw a computer into ANYTHING and kids these days will eat it up. Just don't get to heavy into the CW -- they won't follow and can't "read" it, so save that for once you help them get their licenses.
Or if you have a larger teen ham population, how about trying to organize a school station? These are few and far between these days in high schools. And when one person stays after school to operate, he'll drag friends with him.
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Even then i dont remember meeting any hams younger than me.
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Unfortunately, I felt quite out of place in the Calgary Radio community due to my age at the time. I didn't really feel like I had a lot to contribute. As well, due to my lack of education I really felt like I was out of my league.
There were a few hams who were younger than me but unfortunately, it was by quite a wide margin. (One ham if I remember right was 12 yrs old and got his license around the same time I did.) We never really got together all that much.
I found that if I did make any friends, it was over HF or Packet, since VHF Phone made me feel too alienated.
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I find that now as i am pushing a ripe age of 32 and getting a few greys I am still usually the youngest.
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Now we all know that younger hams exist, but every hamfest i go to, every time i get on the air, i have yet too see or hear them.
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I suspect that younger hams are a minority in this hobby, depending on where you go and what you do. I'll most likely expand on that below.
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Is the Internet the new cool hangout for teens?
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You see, this is the biggest problem. My YL is 24 yrs old and I once said, "Hey Christine! I just had a conversation with a ham in Sacremento, CA! That's a contact that's nearly 2800 kilometres away!"
You know what she said? # "So?"
The rationale is, Why should one have to go out, study their butt off, get a license, get their CW qualification, purchase nearly $1500 worth of HF gear, worry about purchasing a antenna tuner/power meter, putting up a decent antenna (A mobile, Dipole, Random Wire, etc, etc) and then call CQ for half an hour before getting a contact, worrying about QSB, QRM, QRN, etc, the whole time, when one can simply load up ICQ, put it on "Random Chat" and bingo.. Instant contact.
My answer to her was, "The challenge."
More to the point, with things like SMS messaging, cell phones, On-the-fly ICQ, etc, even FRS... it makes CB or Ham Radio look really antiquated in comparison.
She just doesn't understand. The internet has profoundly changed the way communications is done and talking DX is no longer a viewable archivement by the general public. If you think about it, from the 1920's up to the early 1990's, CB & Ham Radio was kind of like a crude "Internet". (Especially when you think of Packet Radio, woohoo!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif QRP'ers are viewed as self-sadisitc by QRO'ers because of the fact that contacts are that much difficult to make. (At least from what I can see.)
I guess my YL views me in the same light as a QRP'er, doing things the hard way... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I hate to say it, but the internet has resulted in my generation ("Generation X") losing interest in HAM Radio because the rewards (IE. DX) are too easy to come by.
I can only hope that things such as PSK31, APRS, High-Speed (9600 Baud) Packet over TCP/IP, IRLP and 2M radios with built-in TNC's can save this hobby. I'm crossing my fingers!
The key trick is coolness factor. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I have yet to be able to hook my PDA up to a 2m HT with a built-in TNC and do TCP/IP over packet but when I finally end up doing it, I'm sure that some of my friends will be amazed. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
(OK, I could use a cell modem too, but Cell modems take all the fun out of it!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
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Maybe we need to promote amature radio more,
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Perhaps. Again, the big deal here is coolness factor. When we can show people what ham radio can do that nothing else can, that's an awesome start.
More to the point, Contesting is viewed as a hardcore sport for some hams and as much as I hate to say it (I'm a die hard ragchewer) I think that it's one of the very few "Armchair Sports" that are out there and that it certainly does have merit. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
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Do high schools still have ham radio clubs?
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My College had a Ham Radio club while I was taking my courses. The station at the Ham Radio club was so superior to my own equipment that I ended up selling off all of my personal equipment except for one HT and used the club station whenever I could between classes. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif (My HT really was nothing to brag about. It was an ancient Rock-Bound thing that used 10 AA cells (ARGH!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif and was limited to just a few local repeater frequencies. It had a pathetic power output of 200 mW and was only worked decently with a 5/8-wave collapsable antenna!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Blaine, I totally share your views on the whole radio thing. It saddens me in some ways to see my generation blabbing on their cell phones in personal ways when using a radio could be so much cheaper.
(Then again, sometimes I wonder if that would be a good thing. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif )
Oh well... Thanks for putting out your opinions. I hope I don't cause a flame war! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
To continue this interesting discussion...
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I received my ham ticket at age 18... that was 1989.
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I'll join the club here, I got my ticket at 13 which was in 1985. #I'm now 30. #So, another "gen-x-er".
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am 28 now and have gone through plenty of post-secondary education and the like and now feel like I have a lot to contribute to a conversation. I don't feel nearly as alienated but there are few hams here in Calgary who are around my age. Most seem to be in their 40's, 50's, 60's or even 70's.
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Ditto for me. #In fact things have been so discouraging sometimes that I don't even bother attending meetings, swapmeets, etc. for any ham events. #It's not that I dislike the older folks -- I don't, most are very decent individuals and make up the majority of the hobby -- but as you all know, we don't share much in common outside of strictly the hobby, and often there is a level of discomfort as a result. #Once you get beyond 20 years of your age group, this is bound to happen I think. #
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The thing is, to some degree this has always been the case. #They were laying transatlantic cables back in the late 1800s for telegraph, right when "wireless" came about. #The argument easily could have been "why bother with wireless when this other method is so much more dependable?" #The argument for using the telephone has always been there. #It was there when I got licensed in '85 ("why not just call them up?"). #I think people forget one of the core reasons of becoming a ham, and that is experimentation with wireless technology. #I don't think most people become hams strictly to yak with others around the world. #I know I didn't! #I found propagation to be very challenging and interesting, and I enjoyed building my own equipment and seeing how many people I could reach. #The actual conversation is not the point, it's the ability to reach the person. #It's like saying, why do people hike Everest? #One could take a helicopter to the top! #Why do people go fishing? #I could go to the local supermarket and buy as many fish as I want!! #You get the idea.
I think there are several underlying problems here. #One problem is that this hobby is unknown to people our age. #Outside of the movie "frequency", what other avenue gets our hobby out to the masses of gen-xers out there? #And I also feel that our generation (the 20s-30s gen-Xers) are not very interested in learning challenging technical stuff. #In years past, people were jazzed about the space program and science was all the rage. #That's not the case anymore. #Nowadays you're a "nerd" if you like technical stuff, and as a partial result of this, most of the folks in engineering are from other countries. #I see the trends in engineering paralleling what I see with the hobby. #About the only exception is IT and computers, which people are just looking to grab some quick&easy certification to make big $$ fast. #Often, this in-depth technical knowledge to excel at radio circuits and antennas requires a lot more time and learning curve than the other. #People in our group just aren't interested and turned on enough to put in the effort. #It isn't perceived as "cool" to do so.
Why does our group only want quick fix, sound byte type thrills for their hobbies and/or careers? #I don't know, but I suspect the MTV'ing of society played some sort of role. #Too many of us were raised as observers, and not participants. #Older generations got off their rears and did more physical activities. #Just look at the chronic obesity in our generation!
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The key trick is coolness factor. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I have yet to be able to hook my PDA up to a 2m HT with a built-in TNC and do TCP/IP over packet but when I finally end up doing it, I'm sure that some of my friends will be amazed. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
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The thing is, WHO is going to make it so that you CAN hook up your PDA to the 2m HT? #YOU will! #We're all sitting around, OBSERVING things going on, waiting for someone else to come up with the new gadget. #WE are the ones who have to put in the effort to make those things happen. #And right now, as a group, our generation doesn't have a lot of momentum behind it to make those things happen, in my opinion.
I don't hold the internet responsible for the demise of our generation's interest in ham radio. #In fact, to me the internet makes the hobby a lot more accessable to people who wouldn't ordinarily know anything about it. #You can point someone to some websites and they can learn all about the cutting-edge stuff going on in our hobby -- meteor scatter, high speed data, weak signal, lowfer records, satellite, homebrewing, etc etc. #People are more apt to do a scan through a bunch of websites than dig through a stack of dense ham magazines, I think.
There's a lot of potential projects out there. #I'd *LOVE* to work on a high speed data link, or experiment with new digital modes for weak signal meteor scatter, with other "young" hams. #But for me (and I suspect others out there), if you can't invite people to your radio shack and break out the soldering irons and collaborate, lots of this stuff loses its luster. #Or, go out and share a beer with your buddies after finishing a project. #It's like when people work on cars together. #It's a lot more fun to have help.
One thing that would help I believe is more collaboration & cooperation via clubs & websites. #Other young GenX/GenY's who feel isolated in the hobby could have a forum to meet in. #I'm hoping to build a website for this purpose, but I lack the HTML skills to make it real fancy anytime soon! #If anyone is interested, let me know (see my email in the QRZ lookup). #
73s and hang in there! #WF7I
wa6itf
05-15-2002, 12:05 AM
ALERT: For some reason the URL in the original posting will not connect. Lets try again:
Amateur Radio Newsline (http://www.arnewsline.org)
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Bill P.
KG6LES
05-15-2002, 01:09 AM
I'm 16. Just got my license in the mail yesterday. I know one other person my age who is a ham. That's sad. I was always interested in ham radio, since me and my friend communicated using radio shack CB's that put out probably like 200-300mW. It would have been so much easier and less expensive to use the phone. But that wasn't as fun. There was just something in doing something in a unique way. When my dad's friend, KB7VI, came over and taught me the CW alphabet, numbers and prosigns, I was hooked. I don't know why, and will probably never know, what draws me in about ham radio. Frankly: it's hard.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The rationale is, Why should one have to go out, study their butt off, get a license, get their CW qualification, purchase nearly $1500 worth of HF gear, worry about purchasing a antenna tuner/power meter, putting up a decent antenna (A mobile, Dipole, Random Wire, etc, etc) and then call CQ for half an hour before getting a contact, worrying about QSB, QRM, QRN, etc, the whole time, when one can simply load up ICQ, put it on "Random Chat" and bingo.. Instant contact.
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The challenge appeals to me. I build my own anntennae. Why? Because it involves thinking. Why bother? Because it's fun. Period. So much of American society requires no thinking at all. Ham Radio does. I think that is what separates Hams from the rest of the populus. I also think that a big part of the problem of young hams is, besides the internet, our educational system. Again, no thinking required, except for math (and look at how kids loathe math). Memorize dates, feed them back on a test, and forget them. You get an A in the class. People who learn this way live life this way, and thus, a challenging hobby like Ham radio does not appeal to them because of the work that it entails. There. I've spilled my guts on this issue. I'm done. Back to my rig. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KG6LES (Proud to do things the hard/ham way!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
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My points exactly (and well put).
All I would add is, it's also perceived as "un-cool" in the American society to work on anything technical. Other societies actually admire engineers and scientists. Not this one. Which I think is a sad commentary on where we're at in the 21st century!
I really believe that many people who might otherwise be interested in ham radio are scared away by the perception of it being "geeky" and "un-cool".
Just my 2 cents...hopefully, I'm wrong!
73s, Bert
kj7yx
05-16-2002, 07:07 AM
It seems to me that everyone thinks that the internet is killing ham radio. #I have to disagree. #
When TV came into being, did ham radio disappear? #When the telephone became an easy-to-use device, #did ham radio disappear?
Ham radio will always be around. #It evolves, it adapts, it improvises. #It isn't the same as it was 50 years ago, and it won't be the same in another 50 years. #technology changes, and
WEare the vanguards of that change.
Yes, it's easier to talk to someone on the ICQ than over the airwaves, but #ham radio is all about accomplishment..."I did it myself". #This is the core of what I think is "cool" #about ham radio, and I've been doing it for over 25 years. This is why people sew, fish, restore cars, and make their own furniture.
New hams are out there. #They are the life of this hobby. #They have the energy, and the fresh perspective of the hobby. #Our EC of our county was once one of those young hams. #It is OUR DUTY as older hams to be mentors(otherwise known as ELMERS) to cultivate that fresh energy and to pass on our knowledge and joy to the next generation.
I know this is a bit long, but I felt that I had to get this said. There has been too much pessimism lately about our hobby. #Hope to hear some of you on the air soon!
73,
Scott Lasater
KJ7YX
AEC, Spokane Co., WA, ARES
g7god
05-19-2002, 10:53 AM
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Yes, the above point is valid, but in my opinion, it's also irrelevant to the discussion. The question it should be asking is not did ham radio disappear, but instead did ham radio adapt and the answer has to be a resounding YES.
Having said that, we need to also ask the next question: When the Internet came along, did ham radio adapt? and so far, as far as I can tell, the answer has to be a resounding NO. Why? In general, because the hobby has become far too political and far too little actual hobby. As proof of this, one only has to read through the Are Today's Hams Ready To Handle Emergencies? (http://www.qrz.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&f=3&t=11522) topic here on QRZ to realise just how political the hobby has become.
As to the question of "did ham radio disappear", the answer is clearly NO but what matters more is whether that is going to remain the case. As I see it, there is one VERY important criteria required to ensure that it does: The hobby MUST continue to INNOVATE.
There is one aspect of the hobby that stands out as something that is not currently available outside the hobby, and that is the Automatic Position Reporting System (http://www.qsl.net/va3jtr/) that is being developed by the ham radio community. However, like most other aspects of the hobby, it will not be long before this becomes a commercial reality, and the question then has to be this: What will the next innovation be?
Frankly, I don't know, and this worries me.
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That is the ideal, but is it the truth. Unfortunately, all the signs are that this is NOT the case: New hams are in general NOT out there, as the hobby is generally seen as being too fuddy-duddy and tied up with the past. THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE if the hobby is to survive.
One of the major factors in the hobby being seen this way is the way our national leaders feel they have to express an opinion on anything and everything that comes up, related to the hobby or not, and whether or not they have any qualification to speak on that subject
Riley Williams.
KC8OVT
05-28-2002, 02:58 AM
I'm not sure, but I think I'm the youngest one in our area, at least that I ever see.
Not that this is a universal policy, but quite often I feel outside the circle b/c of my age. It's almost as if I'm considered to be less intelligent or qualified or whatever else than the rest of the group. I may be younger, but I passed the exam. One would think that would give me some credit. More times than not, I don't feel like that's the case.
I'm young and female . . . the ultimate minority . . .
Mandi
Kg6kbe
06-08-2002, 06:11 AM
Hi all,
I am a 13 year old seventh grader, and I have started a "club" at my school. #This club is no more than a name (Manhattan Beach Youth Amateur Radio Service) and a few licensed amateurs (Me, KG6KBF, KE6QJK [an applied tech. teacher at the school], and a HAM who has not recieved his call letters yet.) #All of these people are 13, with the exception of the teacher.I have lets see...
6 people waiting for the use of my TWO study books (both are lent out)!
Unfortunatly, I have not been able to find anybody willing to donate to this, which we badly need, besides a few people (who think they are donating to just me, but I am looking to be able to have an OPEN station for people to use.), including KA4IDJ and N6RBR, who is one of my elmers (donates time and effort to provide constant advice); along with a few more selected few who donate their time, effort or material goods to the cause. #If you can provide help in any way possible, please contact me at [EMAIL=KG6KBE@arrl.net]
Now, on the YHOTY standpoint, I will be happy to nominate someone. I will nominate K0IIN. I will do it now. Why wait???
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I hope to talk to you all sometime and 73,
de Greg
KG6KBE
(soon W6DXN)