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kg4kww
12-28-2005, 06:27 PM
I Think This Says It All:

Why Cw Is On The Way Out (http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=7;t=110307)

W0LPQ
12-28-2005, 06:35 PM
BS. Only by those who are too lazy to put forth the effort.

Bill, W0LPQ

AC0H
12-28-2005, 06:36 PM
Horsefeathers.......Road Apples........Balderdash!
Could it be the results are skewed because the CW ops are all busy DOING CW ON THE AIR rather than incessantly purusing the internet for ridiculous polls that nobody knew about in the first place?

KE5FRF
12-28-2005, 06:45 PM
As an Echolink user, I must admit this is a good oportunity for a troll.

Big wheels keep on turnin', Proud Mary keep on burnin'..
trollin', trollin', trollin' down the river!!

al2i
12-28-2005, 07:01 PM
Since I'm on the slope, I'll be on the bottom of 20 with a really cheap $8 key, and monitoring IRLP node 3027 at the same time.

w8znx
12-28-2005, 07:43 PM
Greg
you sound like a closed loop
saying the same thing, over and over and over
and over agn
this posting that posting
the other posting

still does not change anything

know deep in your heart
as long as you can't copy code
you will remain a 2nd class op

mac

AK7V
12-28-2005, 07:45 PM
Quote[/b] (AC0H @ Dec. 28 2005,11:36)]Horsefeathers.......Road Apples........Balderdash!
Could it be the results are skewed because the CW ops are all busy DOING CW ON THE AIR rather than incessantly purusing the internet for ridiculous polls that nobody knew about in the first place?
Bingo!

I'll be on the air for SKN.

KI4BNC
12-28-2005, 07:56 PM
TROLLIN,TROLLIN,TROLLIN
KEEP THEM THREADS A ROLLIN
TROLLIN,TROLLIN,TROLLIN...
TROLLHYYYYYYYYYYYDE!!!

k0ews
12-28-2005, 08:29 PM
CW on the way out? Not likely. SKN is one of my favorite events of the year, and when I can squeeze in the time, I'll be calling CQ SKN. Of course, if I have to much to consume at the party I'm attending, I'll probably wait for the morning or afternoon of January 1 to get on the air. At any rate, it's a fun event, and one I look forward to doing. I didn't even know about the survey to be honest.
To the original poster, have you actually tried CW? Get on lower portion of 40 meters some evening, and I think you will be surprised what you hear.

W0LPQ
12-28-2005, 08:44 PM
EWS: He can't get on HF. NO license.

Bill, W0LPQ

WB2WIK
12-28-2005, 08:57 PM
Hardly on the way out.

I monitor and record the HF bands quite a lot, so even when I'm not home to operate I have a good feel for band conditions and activity, when I play it back later.

40m day and night has more CW activity than any phone or digital mode -- and the ratio is heavily skewed to CW after dark when the broadcast stations take over most of the phone band.

20m is split about 50/50 any time it's open.

15m ditto.

75m phone has more activity than 80m CW, I don't know why but it just seems to be the case.

30m of course is all CW and digital.

60m is American hams' first opportunity ever to play on a band which is "phone only," with no CW allowed. Interesting to note the band never became popular, and still isn't. I hear maybe 20-30 stations a day using the five allocated frequencies, and mostly they're the same ones. A shame, considering propagation is actually very good after dark and a lot of what I hear is 3000 miles or farther away. This would make a great CW band, but alas, it hasn't happened. Maybe one day.

But it certainly is interesting to note that the only HF band where only "phone" (USB) is allowed has terrible activity, compared with the other bands. I'd have expected to hear it busy day and night, but it's not.

The "most used" amateur allocations in the U.S. (can't speak for the world) are 40m CW and 2m FM phone, per every scientific survey ever made.

WB2WIK/6

N8CPA
12-28-2005, 10:19 PM
I have to agree. CW is certainly on the way out--on just about any band when CDX are at their worst. That's why it's the default mode for weak signal work, EME, meteor scatter, etc.

But I know you posted this because it looks like your echolink party on the same night as SKN will prove a Cingular failure. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

kg4kww
12-29-2005, 01:23 AM
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KI4BNC
12-29-2005, 01:26 AM
Quote[/b] (KI4BNC @ Dec. 28 2005,12:56)]TROLLIN,TROLLIN,TROLLIN
KEEP THEM THREADS A ROLLIN
TROLLIN,TROLLIN,TROLLIN...
TROLLHYYYYYYYYYYYDE!!!
HEAD 'EM UP,
MOVE 'EM OUT,
BEAT THE HORSE
SLAP YER DOG
MILK 'EM HARD
TROLLLLLLHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYDE!!!

w4rot
12-29-2005, 01:52 AM
Ain't we all
"On the way out"
Do your homework.
...dit dit
w4rot

w6ez
12-29-2005, 02:31 AM
Quote[/b] (W0LPQ @ Dec. 28 2005,11:35)]BS. Only by those who are too lazy to put forth the effort.

Bill, W0LPQ
Yup, yup, yup and...yup

W8CEI
12-29-2005, 02:35 AM
CW, Will never be out. The ones that like it will use it and keep it going. The ones that dont won't. pure & Simple. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif 73

KG4CGC
12-29-2005, 02:41 AM
Slow news day Gregg?

k7unz
12-29-2005, 02:45 AM
Is there really a reason this needed to be posted on two of the forums??

Jim/k7unz

WZ4I
12-29-2005, 02:51 AM
Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 28 2005,15:19)]I have to agree. CW is certainly on the way out--on just about any band when CDX are at their worst. That's why it's the default mode for weak signal work, EME, meteor scatter, etc.

But I know you posted this because it looks like your echolink party on the same night as SKN will prove a Cingular failure. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kg4kww
12-29-2005, 02:51 AM
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WZ4I
12-29-2005, 02:54 AM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Dec. 28 2005,11:27)]I Think This Says It All:

Why Cw Is On The Way Out (http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=7;t=110307)
Do u ever have any original thoughts?

All I ever see u post are links, and smiley faces???

kg4kww
12-29-2005, 02:57 AM
The reason for the links is because the QRZ Cops will not allow us to post news articles as they are copy writed. So, we have to post the link instead.

Later, I have gas.

WZ4I
12-29-2005, 03:07 AM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Dec. 28 2005,19:57)]The reason for the links is because the QRZ Cops will not allow us to post news articles as they are copy writed. So, we have to post the link instead.

Later, I have gas.
That's NOT what I asked you....

Nothing wrong with posting links! I asked, "Do u ever have any original thoughts?"


TNX (that's shorthand for "thanks" when using CW. I figured you would need an explanation, since you don't know code http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ), but I really don't care about your "gas" problem. Try Gas-X.

n8yx
12-29-2005, 03:46 AM
Quote[/b] (AK7V @ Dec. 28 2005,12:45)]Quote[/b] (AC0H @ Dec. 28 2005,11:36)]Horsefeathers.......Road Apples........Balderdash!
Could it be the results are skewed because the CW ops are all busy DOING CW ON THE AIR rather than incessantly purusing the internet for ridiculous polls that nobody knew about in the first place?
Bingo!

I'll be on the air for SKN.
As will I... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

WA5KRP
12-29-2005, 03:54 AM
Quote[/b] (kb4qlz @ Dec. 28 2005,21:07)]Nothing wrong with posting links! I asked, "Do u ever have any original thoughts?"
Don't hold your breath waiting for an intelligent answer, Blue Boy.



WA5KRP
Texas

wb7dmx
12-29-2005, 06:00 AM
CW will never die, only poor uneducated ham operators will die.
one thing that should never be forgotten, is the basic things in life that are required for survival.
how to grow your own food supply.
how to ride a horse
how to ride a bike
how to send and receive morse code
how to make a shelter if and when needed
how to hunt
how to fish
how to build a camp fire

these are some of the basic things in life we should never forget least we parish;

heck even a simple boy scout knows these things.

n2nh
12-29-2005, 06:06 AM
Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Dec. 28 2005,21:41)]Slow news day Gregg?
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

He's just desparate to drum up support for the Keyboard Beach Party - which is dying a slow and loud death. Here, have a doughnut http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/donut.gifhttp://smiley.onegreatguy.net/coffee.gif

KC9AFN
12-29-2005, 11:03 AM
He could listen. Just might learn something.


I'll also be on SKN this year (first time). And I didn't know about the survey either.

Been shy about doing SKN before since I send slower than I can copy, but from my QSOs lately every one is patient so I'llo give it a try. Problem isn't the code, I just have to stop and think about what I want to say. Sigh......just getting old I guess! .... .. .... .. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

KC9AFN
12-29-2005, 11:12 AM
Quote[/b] ]EWS: #He can't get on HF. NO license.



See above post! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

kg4kww
12-29-2005, 10:06 PM
all you all can do is attack me which is sad, rather than embrace the fact that you are a bunch of Elitists who are scared of change and what it will bring. If the Elitists were allowed to have their way we would still be living in caves.

But, the one thing you all will not admit to is that CW could be, being used by the bad guys, hence the post about HF messages and terrorists on the ham radio board of QRZ.COM.

So, you are right the CW mode will not go away but, the requirement for upgrading will. So, stick that in your key and send it.

al2i
12-29-2005, 10:18 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Dec. 29 2005,15:06)]all you all can do is attack me which is sad, rather than embrace the fact that you are a bunch of Elitists who are scared of change and what it will bring. If the Elitists were allowed to have their way we would still be living in caves.

But, the one thing you all will not admit to is that CW could be, being used by the bad guys, hence the post about HF messages and terrorists on the ham radio board of QRZ.COM.

So, you are right the CW mode will not go away but, the requirement for upgrading will. So, stick that in your key and send it.
I wouldn't even have a license if it wasn't for CW. You can't use CW can you? Wow. That is an enormous bummer for you. No wonder you are so hostile about it.

Best wishes OM.

KC0W
12-29-2005, 10:25 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Dec. 29 2005,22:06)]all you all can do is attack me which is sad, rather than embrace the fact that you are a bunch of Elitists who are scared of change and what it will bring.
If being an "Elitist" means that I spent the time to LEARN CW, I guess that I'm an elitist.

Being an elitist has it's rewards with amateur radio. I (we) do not have to wait to read the postings on QRZ that say, "get on 6 meters right now, the band is open." The band is always open to somewhere on HF.

I also like the fact that us elitists are helping to keep CW alive to this day & into the future.

Me an elitist? Yep.


Tom kcØw

wa6ube
12-29-2005, 10:41 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

<While reading the tea leaves in her 16-ounce tea cup, Trish replies...>

After Morse Code is no longer a requirement for any class of amateur radio license, I predict that there will be a resurgence of interest in Morse, to the point that special certificates will be issued at hamfests, and ARRL conventions, for those who can copy Morse at various speeds <and> be able to copy and write all Morse characters including all of the odd-ball punctuation marks and symbols..

<Reading the tea leaves a bit more closely, Trish adds...>

There will even be special certificates at each speed for those who can pass a sending and receiving test that includes any of the odd-ball and seldom used Morse characters.

Trish - WA6UBE

N8CPA
12-29-2005, 11:12 PM
I can't remember who, in these pages, said those who waited for Element 1 to drop before upgrading, will have upgraded by hitting it from the "ladies tee." I predict that any NCTs now licensed who are yet waiting and whining will be known as LTGs and LTEs. From NCT to LT General--an accomplishment well worth boasting about!

KC9AFN
12-30-2005, 12:26 AM
I just received this month's CQ magazine and checked the results from last months poll. The poll was about CW usage. The results of this poll are somewhat different from the information given at the beginning of this thread. The one that struck me as most informative was the one where only 15% of the respondants said they never used code. Seems to me that says it all more than a survey about one operating event. Does that mean that 85% of the readers of this magazine are wrong about the future of code? IMHO I don't think so. CW will not go away. There will always be those who use it because they enjoy it. I'm finding that code is more fun for me right now. That may change over time, and I still probably work about 70% phone and 30% CW but that is my choice. I may one day decide to work only CW, but again that is my choice. Those who refuse to learn or even try to learn code are depriving themselves of an interesting part of our hobby/service.

W0LPQ
12-30-2005, 01:28 AM
KWW: If stating a fact is "picking on you" ... so be it. As has been stated many times by many people, if you would get off your duff, learn the code, meet the requirements for a higher class license ... I would bet that many more people would have a lot more respect for you ... as it is, you badmouth those who desire to improve themselves by meeting the requirements to gain access to HF.

It is sad that you claim we are the elitists ... well if we chose to meet the requirments for HF ... then I guess we are. We are not "scared" of change ... far from it. What "scares" us, is people that will not even put forth the effort to learn ... then complain about not being able to get on HF.

Your choice and apparently you have made it. Complain and call us elitists ... as Tom, KC0W says ... Yep.

Bill, W0LPQ

KB5WX
12-30-2005, 01:32 AM
Quote[/b] (W0LPQ @ Dec. 29 2005,18:28)]KWW: If stating a fact is "picking on you" ... so be it. #As has been stated many times by many people, if you would get off your duff, learn the code, meet the requirements for a higher class license ... I would bet that many more people would have a lot more respect for you ... as it is, you badmouth those who desire to improve themselves by meeting the requirements to gain access to HF.

It is sad that you claim we are the elitists ... well if we chose to meet the requirments for HF ... then I guess we are. #We are not "scared" of change ... far from it. #What "scares" us, is people that will not even put forth the effort to learn ... then complain about not being able to get on HF.

Your choice and apparently you have made it. #Complain and call us elitists ... as Tom, KC0W says ... Yep.

Bill, W0LPQ
Persactly !!!

ab8ma
12-30-2005, 02:12 AM
Quote[/b] (kc0w @ Dec. 29 2005,22:25)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Dec. 29 2005,22:06)]all you all can do is attack me which is sad, rather than embrace the fact that you are a bunch of Elitists who are scared of change and what it will bring.
If being an "Elitist" means that I spent the time to LEARN CW, I guess that I'm an elitist.

Being an elitist has it's rewards with amateur radio. I (we) do not have to wait to read the postings on QRZ that say, "get on 6 meters right now, the band is open." The band is always open to somewhere on HF. #

I also like the fact that us elitists are helping to keep CW alive to this day & into the future.

#Me an elitist? Yep.


# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # Tom kcØw
Yup Tom. Heard you on CW I think it was yesterday. Nice fist. A bit too fast for me to copy all, but a pleasure to hear..

kg4kww
12-30-2005, 02:47 AM
God Bless America and freedom of speach.

Once again the thread has been kept alive
by lively responses.

Ok, NCT's don't be scared you can speak up,
these guys won't bite.

KC0W
12-30-2005, 04:12 AM
Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Dec. 30 2005,02:12)]Yup Tom. Heard you on CW I think it was yesterday. Nice fist. A bit too fast for me to copy all, but a pleasure to hear..
By all means, give me a call!!!

I will slow down to any speed that you are comfortable with........Never a problem.

The 90' tower & monster (28 sq. ft.) Optibeam HF antenna will go up in the spring. I hope to work quite a few QRZ regulars then.


Tom kcØw

KI4LZK
12-30-2005, 04:50 AM
Kww: We agree on most things but on this my friend I have to say we are at odds. #Considering what all goes on during New Years Eve I believe this is a slightly skewed poll, not to mention it is vastly unknown. #With that said I don't have a life right now as I am in between semesters at school. #I am not sure if I will be operating as KI4LZK or W0QQQ but I should find out tomorrow.

Let me just say, my fist is bad so when you hear it beware. #I have a bad habit of changing speeds. #The K-State ARC /W0QQQ\ (http://www.ksu.edu/ksuarc) pretty nice compared to what I have. #It isn't the greatest setup, but is a lot better then mine here at home.

Good luck to you all, I will keep an ear out for you http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Josh KI4LZK

KC0NBW
01-02-2006, 01:07 AM
not really surprising, but i have not heard any comments from the people that were assuring us that element 1 testing would be a thing of the past long before the end of 2005 !

where are they now? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

KB5WX
01-02-2006, 02:24 AM
If Morse Code is on the way out , how come there were so many signals on for SKN ? 40 and 80 were pretty packed . Not so bad as a contest but a lot busier than usual . I sure had fun with my J-38 straight key and 40 watts . Had some great qso's , most of which were at least 30 minutes in duration . Don't let yourself be left out or left behind . Learn the code and have a blast with the rest of us OF types .

kg4kww
01-02-2006, 02:39 AM
Quote[/b] ]AI4FP--If Morse Code is on the way out , how come there were so many signals on for SKN ? 40 and 80 were pretty packed .

The info below speaks for it's self about CW Interest.
Oh how I Laugh At Thee!!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif



Latest Survey Results From The ARRL


Will you participate in Straight Key Night this New Year's Eve?
Yes # # 25.8 % (514)
No # # 70.2 % (1401) #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Will they be on Echolink instead?
What is Straight Key Night? # # 4.0 % (80)
Total votes: 1995

n0ov
01-02-2006, 03:50 AM
Common, CW is not that tough. After all, I learned it.

If you spend 1/2 as much time trying to learn code as you did posting things like this you would be able to send, receive and be on HF

FCC will rule on this soon enough.

Until then, you have a choice. Learn the code and get on HF, or wine about the code and watch others have fun on HF

WA2ZDY
01-02-2006, 01:29 PM
KWW, nobody worth worrying about attacks you for being a no code tech. #What folks don't respect is your incessant postings about how bad code is, how worthless, how nobody should use it, and that those who do are subnormal elitists.

There's something for everyone. #I've said it time and again - while you wait for FCC to change the rules, the rest of us are already having fun on HF. #Who's missing out?

WØPEE is correct - if you spent half the time learning it as you do whining and being negative, you'd already be on HF and having a blast. #But you already knew that.

You must like being miserable - it gives you something to talk about. #My mother is like that, so I have a lifetime of experience with it. #She's miserable if she's happy. #Yet if she IS miserable, she gets to inflict that upon others and that makes her supremely happy. #She's too old for me to worry about it now but sometimes I wonder what causes it. # You remind me of her - a lot. # It's sad. #

I'm no elitist my friend, but I know a lazy crybaby when I hear one and I really do feel badly for you.

Edit note: I don't know what your reference to terrorists and CW have to do with each other, but let's suppose they ARE using CW to communicate (which I doubt - I've seen photos of Osama with an Icom 2AT.) It would be a good thing some hams still know the code - the government gave up on CW years ago. Who would be the ones to intercept the terrorists' transmissions? Right, the only CW ops left - us. Good thing A) it's not likely and B) if it were, that more hams aren't like you.

ad4mg
01-02-2006, 02:25 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 01 2006,22:39)]Quote[/b] ]AI4FP--If Morse Code is on the way out , how come there were so many signals on for SKN ? 40 and 80 were pretty packed .

The info below speaks for it's self about CW Interest.
Oh how I Laugh At Thee!!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif



Latest Survey Results From The ARRL


Will you participate in Straight Key Night this New Year's Eve?
Yes # # 25.8 % (514)
No # # 70.2 % (1401) #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Will they be on Echolink instead?
What is Straight Key Night? # # 4.0 % (80)
Total votes: 1995

Greg,

1. Posting in all bold does not help make your point.

2. You feel it's OK to quote facts to somehow discourage cw.

3. You feel it's not OK for anyone else to discourage echolink.

4. You have repeatedly posted the results of another lame arrl poll (who cares?).

5. arrl membership represents less than 20% of US amateurs.

6. If you want to give cw a try, I'll help in any way I can. #We are geographically very close.

7. If you do not want to learn cw, then please drop the hostilities

8. Not all of us who do cw are "elitists".

9. Do something to help unite you new hams with us old timers (I do ... VA-RACES has many, many technicians, and I help them anytime I'm asked with anything I can).

10. And finally, take a chill session. #There are many other concerns more worthy of your time these days.

Amateur Radio, except in times of declared emergencies, should be fun!

73,
Luke

WA2DYA
01-02-2006, 05:00 PM
CW has been on its way out ever since Sam tapped out "What hath God wrought" way back in the mid 1800s. But, it seems to have gotten lost on its trip to the exit.

--- CHAS

ai4ep
01-02-2006, 05:10 PM
long live c w ,,,including the simple 5 word-per-minute test.

So simple a 45 year old white man from Alabama can do it...pretty simple, aint it ?

k0ews
01-02-2006, 05:25 PM
Quote[/b] ]Latest Survey Results From The ARRL


Will you participate in Straight Key Night this New Year's Eve?
Yes 25.8 % (514)
No 70.2 % (1401) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Will they be on Echolink instead?
What is Straight Key Night? 4.0 % (80)
Total votes: 1995


Your data suggests that 27 percent of the responses would participate. Given the fact that the event was held on New Year's Eve/New Year's Day, what data can you present that suggests that they are not participating for reasons of not prefering CW?

Could it be that the hams responding were simply doing other things on the Holiday...i.e. attending parties, doing things with family, watching football, etc.?

What evidence does the poll have that they are abandoning CW for another mode, just because they chose not to participate in SKN? Where does it say that they prefer Echolink? Where does it say that they prefer phone? What about PSK31, RTTY, SSTV?

How is it that CW is on it's way out? 27 percent of the responses indicated that they would participate. What evidence do you present that it's less than the year before?

You said that the evidence spoke for itself. What can you add to indicate that this is proof that CW is on it's way out?

n0ov
01-02-2006, 06:14 PM
Quote[/b] (WA2ZDY @ Jan. 01 2006,07:29)]KWW, nobody worth worrying about attacks you for being a no code tech. What folks don't respect is your incessant postings about how bad code is, how worthless, how nobody should use it, and that those who do are subnormal elitists.
Thank you. In fact, anyone seriously using the term No Code Tech or thinks CW or a higher class license makes them any more special needs to see a shrink.

Fact is CW is another mode, just like voice, just like PSK31 or APRS that is lots of fun for those who select to use it.

Like any mode available in Amateur Radio, would recommend NOT to knock it until you've tried it and made some contacts.

Then if you decide NOT to use it, that is your call.

W0LPQ
01-02-2006, 07:09 PM
Well said Chris (ZDY)..! These ridiculous posts are a real pain. Seldom read ANY of them ... why would anyone want to.

PEE: Good additional comments. He has not tried it, but will continue to knock it ..!

Bill, W0LPQ

kg4kww
01-02-2006, 10:33 PM
W0LPQ first off you have no idea if I have tried code, so therefore you are making an assumption. And a wrong assumption at that.

Pee, you always let loose with a smoth flow of interesting comments. Your comment about know one being better tan any other is right on.

Now dudes for Christmas a ham buddy of mine gave me a Bencher Paddle. I think the jokes on you W0LPQ!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

W0LPQ
01-02-2006, 11:52 PM
KWW: Just going by your OWN statements here on QRZ. If you have a Bencher, go for it.! If you do know Morse Code, why not say so...! Didn't know there WAS a joke.

Bill, W0LPQ

n2nh
01-03-2006, 12:26 AM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Dec. 28 2005,13:27)]I Think This Says It All:
Yep I agree, it does...

51 votes to keep morse testing
19 votes to get rid of it.

Is CW Important (http://www.internationalvoting.com/int3/ask.cgi?pid=29-164) enough to Ham Radio to continue using it on the exam?

AK7V
01-03-2006, 06:17 PM
I had fun on SKN.

Chatted with some new 5WPM Extras who have better fists than I do. Made me happy. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

wa9cwx
01-03-2006, 09:09 PM
Why, oh WHY am I ALWAYS the last to know...?

I have not seen any posts on here that bring up the points I made..I DIDN"T know there where TWO of the same thread!
Rather than try to rewite it all, Just read them on the OTHER thread....("Talk and Opinion", "ARRL Web Survey...")
Oh well...
KWW, this is just ridiculous.

n8yx
01-03-2006, 09:48 PM
Quote[/b] (wa9cwx @ Jan. 03 2006,14:09)]KWW, this is just ridiculous.
No...THIS is ridiculous:

http://www.vibroplex.com/triple_key.jpg

But it'll be my next Dayton purchase.

It co$ts more than any five of my mics put together, and I typically don't buy junk there either.

So much for CW dying...not @ this QTH. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

k0ews
01-03-2006, 11:13 PM
Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Jan. 03 2006,15:48)]Quote[/b] (wa9cwx @ Jan. 03 2006,14:09)]KWW, this is just ridiculous.
No...THIS is ridiculous:

http://www.vibroplex.com/triple_key.jpg

But it'll be my next Dayton purchase.

It co$ts more than any five of my mics put together, and I typically don't buy junk there either.

So much for CW dying...not @ this QTH. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
I WANT ONE! I WANT ONE! I WANT ONE!
...if only wishing made it so.... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

WZ4I
01-03-2006, 11:16 PM
Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Jan. 03 2006,14:48)]Quote[/b] (wa9cwx @ Jan. 03 2006,14:09)]KWW, this is just ridiculous.
No...THIS is ridiculous:

http://www.vibroplex.com/triple_key.jpg

But it'll be my next Dayton purchase.

It co$ts more than any five of my mics put together, and I typically don't buy junk there either.

So much for CW dying...not @ this QTH. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Dayton!

Can't wait. Already have the hotel booked! Counting down the days.......

n2nh
01-04-2006, 01:31 AM
FOR CODE 52
ANTI CODE 22

Hardly The End Of CW with numbers like that? When I git my skyhook up and turn on the rididio, I'll be glad to do SKN. Doesn't pay to try with my cloud burner and a neighbor constantly messing my SWR up by moving his furniture every day.

This is the key that makes me drool, but at over $1K, it's a bit pricey...
http://www.mtech.whsites.net/ghd/gd907.jpg

K3XR
01-04-2006, 01:37 AM
Yep, guess cw is on the way out. #Thanks Roland, DL7BA, Kurt SM6CTC, Wany LZ1WJ, for the 17 mtr. CW contacts this afternoon. To all the others that were calling, sorry, I had to QRT.

N5RLR
01-04-2006, 01:56 AM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Jan. 03 2006)]<span style='color:blue'>This is the key that makes me drool, but at over $1K, it's a bit pricey... [click] (http://www.mtech.whsites.net/ghd/gd907.jpg)</span>
My word! #Does that key come with it's own live-in service technician? #Or at least a service manual? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

K3STX
01-04-2006, 02:09 AM
KWW,

I can not imagine how you can get any kind of thrill out of posting the nonsense you post. It is really, really wierd. AND I KNOW WIERD!!

It is one thing to fan the fire, it is quite another to set the fire in the first place! How you get any enjoyment out of irritating a bunch of guys (re: Ham radio operators) by trashing our common mode of communication is beyond me.

Oh, I forgot. You don't have a license to operate on the HF bands! Maybe that Bencher can be a nice Christmas gift for some nice OF, since you have made it crystal clear in the past that you have no intention of ever operating CW.

Sorry; go on pissing on our parade.

paul

n8yx
01-04-2006, 02:17 AM
Quote[/b] (kb4qlz @ Jan. 03 2006,16:16)]Dayton!

Can't wait. Already have the hotel booked! Counting down the days.......
Before you get on the road, PM me and I'll make sure you have my cell #. Look me up when down there and the first round's on me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

n8yx
01-04-2006, 02:20 AM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Jan. 03 2006,18:31)]This is the key that makes me drool, but at over $1K, it's a bit pricey...
I just might change my mind after seeing THAT.

Naaahhh....the Vibro Triple has a straight key; that's what got the whole thing started in the first place: My key disintegrated years ago, and I've yet to get a better replacement. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

WZ4I
01-04-2006, 01:25 PM
Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Jan. 03 2006,19:17)]Quote[/b] (kb4qlz @ Jan. 03 2006,16:16)]Dayton!

Can't wait. Already have the hotel booked! Counting down the days.......
Before you get on the road, PM me and I'll make sure you have my cell #. Look me up when down there and the first round's on me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Sounds like a winner to me.

If all goes as planned, we should be at the arena around 8AM Friday morning.

We'll be staying south of Dayton, in Monroe.

wv6z
01-04-2006, 01:48 PM
It's nice to see that you guys took it upon yourselves to make a useful thread out of yet another one of KWW's trolls or 'postings' of what our browser shows us automatically when we get ready to connect to the internet....... Do you guys suppose he really thinks he is the only person with access to this information? Doesn't he have a carcass to embalm or play with or something?

n8yx
01-05-2006, 03:19 AM
Quote[/b] (ku4my @ Jan. 04 2006,06:48)]Doesn't he have a carcass to embalm or play with or something?
You owe me a new monitor...the coffee spray is never gonna come off this one! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

QLZ:

Was nice yakking with you &amp; the crew. Pity that there was so much splatter from down the band...one would never experience that sort of thing when in the CW subbands, right?

Speaking of...80M was absolutely packed this evening with A1 and F1 signals. Even heard an HB9/DL2 on 3502 and my 80M antenna in no way favors Europe.

Those who say CW is dying...are just plain wrong, if tonight was any indication of the mode's popularity.

wv6z
01-05-2006, 08:26 AM
Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Jan. 03 2006,21:19)]Quote[/b] (ku4my @ Jan. 04 2006,06:48)]Doesn't he have a carcass to embalm or play with or something?
You owe me a new monitor...the coffee spray is never gonna come off this one! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

QLZ:

Was nice yakking with you &amp; the crew. Pity that there was so much splatter from down the band...one would never experience that sort of thing when in the CW subbands, right?

Speaking of...80M was absolutely packed this evening with A1 and F1 signals. Even heard an HB9/DL2 on 3502 and my 80M antenna in no way favors Europe.

Those who say CW is dying...are just plain wrong, if tonight was any indication of the mode's popularity.
Sorry about that John......... and where are you and Mark hanging out at on HF?

n8yx
01-05-2006, 10:14 AM
Quote[/b] (ku4my @ Jan. 05 2006,01:26)]Sorry about that John......... and where are you and Mark hanging out at on HF?
3895.0.

Come on down and say &quot;hi&quot;...

wv6z
01-05-2006, 10:43 AM
Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Jan. 04 2006,04:14)]Quote[/b] (ku4my @ Jan. 05 2006,01:26)]Sorry about that John......... and where are you and Mark hanging out at on HF?
3895.0.

Come on down and say &quot;hi&quot;...
I'll look you guys up Friday and through the weekend. KI4BNC and a few others of us are often on 3.910.

WZ4I
01-05-2006, 10:47 AM
Quote[/b] (ku4my @ Jan. 05 2006,03:43)]Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Jan. 04 2006,04:14)]Quote[/b] (ku4my @ Jan. 05 2006,01:26)]Sorry about that John......... and where are you and Mark hanging out at on HF?
3895.0.

Come on down and say &quot;hi&quot;...
I'll look you guys up Friday and through the weekend. KI4BNC and a few others of us are often on 3.910.
All are welcome to join the crew.

wa9cwx
01-05-2006, 08:17 PM
YX,

I see you are interested in the Vibro triple.

I bought the double gold from Vibroplex last year (or 2004 maybe...?). I own several of the Vibro brand keys/paddles. They are a VERY nice company to deal with, HOWEVER, my double (bug and single lever) really has some issues.

Please check carefully before you buy.
That is a LOT of money for something you may not like.

The tolerances on mine are obviously sloppy, parts not fitting right, and the gold finish is VERY thin (chrome MAY be better??), the whole thing does not seem to be of the quality of my several other, even fairly recent, Vibrokeys.
Hope you do better than I did, and HOPE the fine Vibro company gets back to making a quality product.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

N8CPA
01-05-2006, 08:45 PM
Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Jan. 03 2006,17:48)]Quote[/b] (wa9cwx @ Jan. 03 2006,14:09)]KWW, this is just ridiculous.
No...THIS is ridiculous:

http://www.vibroplex.com/triple_key.jpg

But it'll be my next Dayton purchase.

It co$ts more than any five of my mics put together, and I typically don't buy junk there either.

So much for CW dying...not @ this QTH. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
No. What's ridiculous is that I can't afford it--WAHHHHHH! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

W2ILP
01-06-2006, 12:39 AM
Men may come and Men may go but nothing can go on forever without a few good live Men and women.
None of us can live forever, so what we think now can't be expected to last forever. Polls are not perrmanently perpetual.
Eventually there may be no CW.
Eventually there may be no Ham Radio.
Eventually there may be no U.S.A.

I know it is hard for some folks to come to the probability of those sorts of reasonably logical consequences. I can't say I blame anyone who hasn't yet come to such conclusions.

O.K. if you must believe in something ...You can believe that all of us will go to heaven and work each other using CW and getting 599 reports. That's nice guys. Don't fight.

dahdahdidididt Ditdiditdahdah,

w2ilp (Infinitatly Living 'Phone?)...nah...just dead repeaters.

KC0NBW
01-12-2006, 02:47 AM
Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Jan. 04 2006,20:19)]Quote[/b] (ku4my @ Jan. 04 2006,06:48)]Doesn't he have a carcass to embalm or play with or something?
You owe me a new monitor...the coffee spray is never gonna come off this one! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

QLZ:

Was nice yakking with you &amp; the crew. Pity that there was so much splatter from down the band...one would never experience that sort of thing when in the CW subbands, right?

Speaking of...80M was absolutely packed this evening with A1 and F1 signals. Even heard an HB9/DL2 on 3502 and my 80M antenna in no way favors Europe.

Those who say CW is dying...are just plain wrong, if tonight was any indication of the mode's popularity.
not to mention trying to clean a mouthfull of stir fried shrimp and vegetables in garlic sauce off the screen and keyboard ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

i may have to replace this keyboard since the cat is constantly up here sniffing the keyboard ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif