How many forum members does it take

[kg4rpe]

Saw this on another forum which I am a member of and thought it would fit in here.

Tim - KG4RPE

How many forum members does it takes to change a light bulb?

1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs

1 to move it to the Lighting section

2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section

7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs

5 to flame the spell checkers

3 to correct spelling/grammar flames

6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" .. another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid

2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"

15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct

19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum

11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum

36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty

7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs

4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's

3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group

13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"

5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy

4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"

13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs"

1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again.

[kg4rpe]

One that might be added would be.

4 to argue over whose fault it is that the original light bulb blew. Democrats or Republicans.

[n2nh]

3 to post that they has a light "bulb" in their toilet

5 to say they studied CW with a light bulb

15 to say that using a light bulb for CW is history

1 to post a picture of a light bulb http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
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[ac4ut]

At least four to argue who invented the light bulb and in what country.
Twelve to argue over how much the Pentagon pays for light bulbs.
Thirty to debate how FEMA failed to have enough bulbs to handle disaster relief.

[KF0RT]

10 to avoid buying a lightbulb at the wrong store

8 to question the light bulb's religion

[n8yx]

Half a dozen or so to argue whether the new bulb is no-code or pro-code...

[n0jaa]

Instead of changing the light bulb, they'd rather sit in the dark and complain about it!

And how about "black lights?"

[ai4ep]

MY possum friends think it is great of you folks to put up these " security lights " in your back yards, and these "motion detector lights " around your homes and outbuildings so they can see better on those moonless nights when they are near your homes. The raccoons and armadillo s think it is rather nice of you human to do that for them too.

They rather appreciate it a lot.

[W3MIV]

None of my light bulbs have clothes!

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[n2nh]

1 Who will bitterly argue the light bulb doesn't need to be changed, but needs to change it's attitude and get back to work.

3 Who will quote a blog to bolster the above and swear it's the gospel truth from an irrefutable source.

12 Who will post links to counter those 3.

4 Who will complain, but not on the Festivus Grouch thread.

1 Who will post another light bulb pic.


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[KI4BNC]

One to ask the questions:
And how does this make the lightbulb feel?
was the lightbulb ready to change?
does the lightbulb feel offended by change?
did the change violate any of the lightbulbs rights or civil liberties?
is there even a lightbulb,or do we just imagine that there might in fact be a lightbulb that needs to be changed?
what did the lightbulb(if there is a lightbulb)
do that was so bad that it required it to be "changed"?
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[gw4rcm]

15 million would say it was a Lucas Bulb, after we saved their Asses in WW2 an all.
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RCM

[W2ILP]

....And w2ilp to insist that any failure of the light bulbs is not an act of God.

w2ilp (Incindary Lamp Platinum)..That's what the fillerment.

[GM3ZMA]

After several pages debating various aspects of the topic, the original poster will re-appear and explain that what he really wanted was to name/address of someone who repairs amateur radio equipment who could repair the broken dial light in his IKenComSu DX500SUX.
He has only be on the radio for two years and doesn't know how it works.

Jim GM3ZMA

[W2ILP]

and has nobody here suggested replacing the lamp with an LED which can last a life time?

w2ilp (Illuminating LED Promoter)...less watts per lumen.

[k6pme]

But is the LED pro-code or no-code? Until that is thoroughly debated and hashed out the LED can not replace the lightbulb.

[WA5KRP]

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One poster who doesn't quite get it and winds up hi-jacking the thread by mentioning Pink Floyd's upcoming American tour.


WA5KRP
Texas

[KI4BNC]

Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ Dec. 27 2005,20:10)]http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a33eaab865.jpg


One poster who doesn't quite get it and winds up hi-jacking the thread by mentioning Pink Floyd's upcoming American tour.


WA5KRP
Texas
when?
where?
how do I find out more?
are you SERIOUS???

[N0KLT]

Light bulbs? We don't need no stinkin light bulbs! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[N8CPA]

1 to ask if the light bulb's threads are CW or CCW before he'll change it.

[ai4ep]

...I can just round up some of my possum friends...they can build a pyramid like CHEERLEADERS do and change the bulb for you. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[W3MIV]

Can you get them to wear those itty-bitty shorts?

[K8ERV]

If you use a dimmer or a fluorescent you don't need to change the bulbs, or lamps, or whatever

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

[KE5FRF]

1 poster to add a URL about the World's longest burning lightbulb like this url here. (http://www.snopes.com/science/lightbulb.asp) and complain about the conspiracy by light bulb manufacturers to sell us sub-par light bulbs with finite lifespans when they could certainly design bulbs such as this one that will last nearly forever.

[n2nh]

Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Dec. 28 2005,15:29)]1 poster to add a URL about the World's longest burning lightbulb like this url here. (http://www.snopes.com/science/lightbulb.asp) ...
Here's the webcam for the 'Centennial Light' (http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm)

[W3MIV]

I strongly suspect that if you consider the amount of power being consumed by this "centennial" bulb in light (sorry) of the number of lumens produced, you may wish to continue to buy and replace the bulbs now sold.

Being a cheapskate, I have been derating bulbs for years, but there is a real limit as to how much power you can waste developing less light versus the cost of a new bulb.

[ai4ep]

....hmmm

If they build a cheaply made lightbulb, they will save money in production...the consumer will be buying MORE bulbs ( at any price ) to keep that same area lit up.

more profits for the light bulb manufacturer.

so why should the light bulb manufacturer attempt to make a longer lasting bulb ?

[n2nh]

The do, but you'll pay much more than you'll save unless you're in an area with extremely high cost per kilowatt hour. Here it's over 20 cents/KWH and the flourescent bulbs needed to light up a room comfortably is about $25 to $35 per bulb. You can use smaller ones with less wattage, but that partially defeats the amount of money you save since it will cost more to light. I went from $65 a month in electric bills to $20. Then the electric co. changed my electric meter and my costs went from $20 a month back up to $40 when they did. Eventually, I will go where it's cheaper to live - since 9/11 there is no such thing as normal here and costs have skyrocketed. I hope they perfect LED lighting. I am Definitely Interested in it.

[KE5FRF]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Dec. 28 2005,16:16)]....hmmm #

If they build a cheaply made lightbulb, they will save money in production...the consumer will be buying MORE bulbs ( at any price ) to keep that same area lit up.

more profits for the light bulb #manufacturer.

so why should the light bulb manufacturer attempt to make a longer lasting bulb ?
Exactly the point...

And why should Ford build a car that requires minimal repairs? Or Icom a radio that never fails? Or Dell a computer whose hard drive never goes kaput? Or Maytag a washing machine that truly requires no service?

Simple, they would design themselves into bankruptcy. The sad truth is, we have all learned to accept mediocrity from industry. The concept of Quality Control ought to be renamed Quality Within Limits Control.

Am I complaining? Not really, just thought it would be an interesting post. Is a perfect light bulb possible? No, age will eventually deteriorate anything. Is there a calculated lifespan designed into our products? Of course there is, and certainly bulbs could be designed to last longer, but they would have to charge us more to make it up in profits. The only benefit to TRULY designing products for superior quality would be less trash in the landfills, with a tradeoff for high prices, lower wages, and more unemployment.

Still, it is an interesting concept to consider. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[al2i]

When I worked for Alascom, which was sort of the Bell long distance for Alaska, I noticed that all of the light bulbs were manufactured by Western Electric, for Western Electric. I never had one burn out, ever. Those suckers were awesome.

In that case, NO forum members would be required to change a lightbulb.

[K8ERV]

Tungsten lamps, like all things are a compromise. Most run near the melting/burnout point as this is the most efficient, most light/buck. Using a 130v lamp or a dimmer can greatly increase the life of the lamp, but you do get less light/buck. I love lamp dimmers, have at least 10 of them in use. Or just get your wife to turn the crank a bit slower!!!

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (K8ERV @ Dec. 29 2005,11:18)]Tungsten lamps, like all things are a compromise. Most run near the melting/burnout point as this is the most efficient, most light/buck. Using a 130v lamp or a dimmer can greatly increase the life of the lamp, but you do get less light/buck. I love lamp dimmers, have at least 10 of them in use. Or just get your wife to turn the crank a bit slower!!!

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
Please cease being rational. Entertaining a conspiracy of planned obsolescence is more fun, and addresses the basic need to be mad about something. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[W2ILP]

There are reasons why light bulbs last longer in Alaska.
1) They are not turned on and off there as often as elsewhere because nights and days are longer. Most failures of lamps occur during the turn on surge when filament resistance is low.
2) They are in a cool environment and can thus disipate heat better than lamps in hotter climates. Thermal build up can damage lamps.

w2ilp (Icy Lamps Pervade)

[al2i]

This winter just went away. It started out like winter, but then turned into something else that is much warmer -- almost impossibly warmer -- and stayed that way. Wierd.

[KI4BNC]

Quote[/b] (kg4rpe @ Dec. 27 2005,06:49)]Saw this on another forum which I am a member of and thought it would fit in here.

Tim - KG4RPE

How many forum members does it takes to change a light bulb?

1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed

14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently

7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs

1 to move it to the Lighting section

2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section

7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs

5 to flame the spell checkers

3 to correct spelling/grammar flames

6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" .. another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid

2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"

15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct

19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum

11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum

36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty

7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs

4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's

3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group

13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"

5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy

4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"

13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs"

1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again.
And a partridge in a pear tree.

[wb7dmx]

I don't remember seeing anything to qualify any member to change the device, don't you have to take a test for that first ?
if so, could you please post the complete test and the answers too, so I can study up on how to do it, as I have already forgotten.

[W2ILP]

Not a partridge in a pear tree.
Could it be a possum in a pine tree...Nah... That was covered in another QRZ thread.

w2ilp (Incandescently Lit Possums)

[KI4BNC]

maybe a possum in a pear tree?
or a pair of possums in a tree?...
nnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.