SICK AND TIRED OF CB LINGO ON RADIO

[ne3r]

(I don't know where it went, but the original post was complaining about CB lingo on 2 meters. *edit*)

You know, I've never heard anything like that anywhere on ham radio. I'm not in some secluded part of the country; I used to live near Baltimore, now I live in what some would call the greater Washington metro area. There are a lot of repeaters, and a lot of hams.

Since I got my license in 1993, I've occasionally heard someone key up without knowing it and we are listening to the local FM broadcast, one instance of the S*** word, sort of an excited utterance, and one case that sounded like someone trying to jam a repeater.

I don't see the big difference between 10-4 and QSL, just that hams don't use 10 codes in general, but we do use Q signals. Although, some say the Q's should only be used in CW.

I wouldn't be the one to try and correct someone on the air, it is just asking for a fight. But if I observed deliberate rules violations, the operator and the FCC would hear from me. As for general CB jargon that I really don’t know (other than 4 wheeler, and some of the 10 codes that the sheriff uses, like 10-4 and 10-20) I probably would just ignore it, or move to simplex http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif.

73
Joe
N3PAQ

[N8CPA]

"If you try to correct them either in person or on air, they just cuss at you."


Amen! In that phrase above, you identified
what happened to Elmering. We got tired of the name calling. And I'm becoming more and more convinced that the virus is terminal. The hambands are developing 'bird flu' from the chicken band, with all the accompanying bird brains and fowl language.

Boing!!!!!!!!!!

[KC9ECI]

It's the end of ham radio I tell ya!

[ne3r]

Hmm, simplex, repeater, it doesn't matter, I guess that is one good thing about being frequency agile http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif, we can just move somewhere else on the band.

If they cuss at you on the air, that is a clear part 97 violation, and there is definitely no place for that, it isn't even acceptable on CB.

I just don't understand why here in the Baltimore Washington area we don't seem to have this problem, but I hear about it all the time on the message boards.

73
Joe
N3PAQ

[w2vw]

Stay away from 2 metres and hang out on H.F.
That should spare you from most of the CB lingo until the 2 meter guys finally find out how to put up a G5RV and start a net on 75. By that time they will be "seasoned" hams and you really won't be able to tell them anything.

[K7KBN]

At least they appear to be using call signs rather than "137 Atlanta" or "Rubber Diaper". But I have to wonder if they are the ones to whom those calls are actually assigned...?

[N1MLF]

We have quite an extensive linked repeater system here in Maine and it does happen but it's very rare & usually followed with an apology. Theres a couple locals on 2M simplex that might have some genes crossed but they stay on a single freq & rarely get on the repeaters.
There was one individual that had an alcahol & mouth problem & he rec'd a certified letter, signed by all area repeater owners, cc: to all parties and the New England Spectrum Management Council (coordinators) denying him access to coordinated freq pairs citing violations, dates, times etc. with a warning the next call would be to the section manager & the FCC.
The BS stopped cold at that point & he hasn't been heard since.
YES there are ways of taking care of these matters but getting in a row on the air is NOT the way to deal with it.

Someone had a signature line to the effect:
"Never argue with an idiot.. they will drag you down to their level & beat you with their experience"
...so true..

73 all..JW

[WA2ZDY]

Quote[/b] (W2APE @ Dec. 17 2005,11:35)]Stay away from 2 metres and hang out on H.F.
I've yet to hear any CB lingo on CW. Solves the problem for me.

ten four and over over rover?

[K3XR]

Part of the dumbing down of the hobby and a direct result of relaxation of requirements to obtain a license. The fact that 10 codes may have some parallel to Q signals is irrvelevant. #Tradition does play a significant role in any culture and Amateur Radio is no exception.

I hesitate to blame those, who give of their time, to instruct new hams about to obtain their license, however, I am curious just how much time is spent in traditions of Amateur Radio as well as the QandA to enable them to pass the exam. #It should be made clear that the slang they used on 11mtrs. has no application on the ham bands. #ARRL and other publications that publish books on obtaining a license should also, clearly, make the same case in those publications.

[KI4ITV]

I live in the Richmond, Virginia area and we don't have this problem at all. #All of the hams are very respectful of the rules and each other. No CB talk, no profanity. But, I do hear this alot from sixland and sevenland calls.#

I did hear what sounded to me to be a ham picking up a call girl one time. #Mike was keyed down for a looong time. #"Hi honey, whats your name?" giggle, giggle
etc., etc. #With Alabama's "Play me some mountain music" ringing in the background.
Finally, after he timed the repeater out, a very fine gentleman keyed up and said, #"If you are in your car, are not alone, and listening to music by Alabama, #THEN PLEASE CHECK YOUR RADIO!"
The mystery transmissions stopped.
I laughed until I cried, and have never looked at some of the local hams the same way again. lol

73,
ki4itv

[K4KWH]

AH shore know whutcha mean thar, shore do thar, mercy me, gre't day 'live and guaran-tole-ye I heered that, ah did! SQEEEEEEEEEEEEK!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ai4ep]

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Look what happens when the rules and regulations are made to be " oh - so - easy " !!

The dumbing down of America continues.

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[kf6rdn]

I have a hard time getting terribly passionate about an occaisional "CB word" thrown in, as long as they aren't doing the smokey and the bandit routine or somesuch. As long as otherwise their operating practices are proper. Some of the "ham words" sound pretty stupid - "destinated", over use of Q codes on phone.

In fact I couldn't help myself, I was on 17 and on passing an accident, I mentioned someone "forgot to keep the shiney side up".

[NF2C]

What is 2 meters?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
HF and CW all the way, good buddy!

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (NF2C @ Dec. 17 2005,10:11)]What is 2 meters?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif? # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
HF and CW all the way, good buddy!
2 meters? That's easy!

So you can montitor your plate current and your alc at the same time!

[ai4ep]

Well...lots of you folks wanted the rules & regulations DUMBED DOWN so you could be an AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR, yet you dont know how to leave the CB LINGO on the CB CHANNELS. You continiously keep accidently / on purpose tell on yourself to any and all folks listening to you on 2 meters ( whether it be by a scanner or another amateur radio ) that you just dont know any better than to drag CB lingo onto AMATEUR frequencies.

With all due respect, you are just being yourself and should be thankful that at least one person in that room is smart enough to read this post TO you.

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Dec. 17 2005,13:19)]Quote[/b] (NF2C @ Dec. 17 2005,10:11)]What is 2 meters?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif? # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
HF and CW all the way, good buddy!
2 meters? That's easy!

So you can montitor your plate current and your alc at the same time!
That's a good one! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ai4ep]

what is a " montitor " ?

[ai4ep]

You HAVE to remember that those folks who use " cb lingo " on the AMATEUR frequencies problably just do not know any better....they are just being theirselves.

Simple & to the point.

AI4EP

[w8cbc]

I gave up on 2 metres. It's not due to CB lingo - I don't think I've ever heard any around here - it's due to the same sad cases who tie up certain repeaters every evening with the "Me. Me me me. MemememeMEMEMEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!" act. Get any conversation going, they find it and, well, I find 15 and 17 metres so much less annoying...

[ai4ep]

bsr...you must mean the folks that use 2 meter repeaters as they drive to work and just HAVE to tell you ( and every one else ) what all THEY did last weekend...how many LOOOOOOOONG hours they put at work...the big shots ( who never help them climb up in the world ) they know....etc...blah blah blah.

Hey what can you expect ? Like I mentioned in an earlier post -- these folks are just being theirselves..

Another great reason to learn cw and talk on HF ---at least it aint a lot of " me me me " stuff.

But then on the positive side, it DOES give all of something to laugh at....( like some of my posts !! ) { I knew you were thinking that !! }

73 to all & MERRY CHRISTMAS

aI4Ep

[w8cbc]

Actually, it's those who've nothing better to do than sit 'round at home and whine into a microphone. Often the complaints are about such-and-such who did such a lousy job of "setting this thing up". I had to refrain a number of times from asking the obvious question.

As things stand now, those sorts cannot make it into HF. If/when they do, well, I guess I'll have to learn to do CW mobile. It's not the code I have a problem with, it's my driving. I'm too distractible.

[VE7NOT]

It's hard to tell the difference between CB SSB and most ham bands here since most of the same operators are on both bands. Most use Q codes on both bands. Most use their HF rigs on the CB bands. . No one cares since channels 30 -40 here no AM cber hangs out on.

On AM CB quite a few use Cb lingo etc and 10-codes. I do on am cb but the moment I step onto ssb cb or any ham band I use q codes or common speech. The older guys on 80m cuss up a storm and 160m is the local band in wash state it seems same guy talking their own lingo every night for years.

Quite often we hear the 10 codes on the 2m repeaters since most hams on that band are also scanner listeners and the police all use 10-codes.

[kg4yus]

Quote[/b] (kd8bsr @ Dec. 17 2005,21:22)]I gave up on 2 metres. #It's not due to CB lingo - I don't think I've ever heard any around here - it's due to the same sad cases who tie up certain repeaters every evening with the "Me. #Me me me. #MemememeMEMEMEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!" act. #Get any conversation going, they find it and, well, I find 15 and 17 metres so much less annoying...
Yep, got the same thing here. Though its in the morning.
Is either one OM whining about how he lost his job this time, and seems to happen every few months, or the OW spewing off about how she has been so busy with Boy Scouts, Church, P.T.A., or something else she just doesnt have time for. Air your Laundry over the PX not RF

KG4YUS

[KB9YCO]

In the metro area between Milwaukee and Chicago I rarely hear CB lingo in 2 meters or anywhere else that technicians are licensed for. Once in awhile it happens but I think much of it has more to do with habit than a concerted effort to CB-ize amateur radio. Most newer licensees that I've heard are willing to hear constructive criticism and willing to learn what is appropriate or not in amateur radio, I'm sure there are exceptions, but people like that will eventually persecute themselves by their conduct anyway. I wouldn't worry too much about CB lingo, the people that won't give it up will be stuck in that niche that concurs with them and more than likely stay there or abandon it altogether.
I personally never understood the need for most radio lingo, never used it in CB, and almost never use it in amateur radio unless completely necessary for the contact in question. Most people that fill their conversations up with pointless verbage of that sort have nothing to say in the first place. Nothing to say and their saying it.

[K4KWH]

I was introduced to radio via my Dad's 1940 Philco set. With it, I listened to Glenn Miller and also the shortwave bands. I got hooked from the beginning. I have never been a 2 Meter person. For me,it is a utility band where we meet for coffee or form up to go to a hamfest. The thing that really did it for me with 2 Meters was the day that I was driving home from work and nobody was on. I listened for at least 15 minutes--not a word. I had a question I thought of and called a friend who had the answer. Before we could exchange our pleasantries, another station broke in, and we let him go. Then two ladies that were on most ALL the time normally came in and #hijacked the QSO so that my question never got answered. Suddenly the machine was alive with meaningless drivel. I got home before I even got to sign OUT--you couldn't get a word in edgewise!:0 #From that day on, my ardor for 2 Meters was quenched. I seldom get on it.

So let me clear out cuz I'm 'destinated'!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

73

[KM5FL]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Dec. 17 2005,21:34)].....................theirselves.................. ........


aI4Ep
Speaking of CB lingo... Could you give us the definition of the word "theirselves"?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif


KM5FL

[ai4ep]

fl...good that you are back.

I heard the word on 75 meters ( he even spelled it )...so.....here it is.

[kb2vxa]

Hi y'all good buddies,

If you think repeaters are all there is to 2M you've got another thing coming! At the bottom of the band I have heard every mode under the sun and one I never heard before, had to call the station on SSB and ask. Yup, he answered and told me but dang if I can remember something I never heard of.

"what is a " montitor " ?"
A masectomy.

[KM5FL]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Dec. 18 2005,15:05)]fl...good that you are back.

I heard the word on 75 meters ( he even spelled it )...so.....here it is.
EP: It's good to be back, altho I've been "back" since Oct 13th.. It takes more than a cat 4 hurricane to knock me out.. I'm still rebuilding my 3 houses..

You heard "theirselves" used AND spelled on 75 meters??Anything that's heard on 75 meters can't be CB related.. Those guys are too sophisticated for stuff like that..

I think I understand.. Goes something like this: They wuz watchin all thu goinons and as t'other two got thar, they hollered they'd destinated theirselves!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

KM5FL

[ai4ep]

yep...we have the " destinated " crew on the local 2 meter repeaters....they just can not help but say it.....also wont give their call when they start a conversation either, but hey, if there IS a violation, it aint MY voice over the airwaves.

That may be why I was given only ONE mouth, TWO ears, and eight fingers.

listen twice as much as I talk, but use all 8 fingers on the computer keyboard.


here comes # 9000 !!! :0

[KM5FL]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Dec. 18 2005,23:51)]here comes # 9000 !!! # # # # :0
Stand back, folks!!!! The man's on a roll!!

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KM5FL

[w8cbc]

VXA makes a good point. If I ever get back to 2 metres, I'll be doing CW, SSB and so on, working Es and tropo and the like. An ambition is EME. I'll need room for the aerials; not possible at the moment.

FM simplex is pretty dead around here, as I've related in other threads.

[k0cmh]

Interesting spectrum of opinions. If we hold strictly to the "Ham" traditions, then we should never use the Q signals on 2 meter voice. I haer a LOT of the socalled EXPERIENCED AND SEASONED Hams doing that all the time on 2 meters. And I participate in the "drive time" chat. But it happens on only one of the nine repeaters my ARC operates in the metro area. So some of us like to "chat" on the drive in and out. There are at least 15 other repeaters functioning in the "close in" metro area and most sit idle 90% of the time.

Most of the chat is about what radio projects we are working on, what one of the new radios on the market is like, asking for help with a radio problem, advice about how to get into a particular mode, etc. Once in awhile it is just about everyday life.

So how is this so different from a 30 minute CW rag chew on 40 meters. Let me see, they seem to go like this: "rig hr is kenwd . . . at 1tt wts . . . into a dipole abt 35 ft . . . bn ham fer 12 12 yers . . . got new ic7000 last week . . . grandkids in town fer xmas . . . grt qso es gud to meet u . . . " Hummmm, sounds a lot like 2 meters?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif??

What gets me is the SSB guys on 80 meters. Where do many of them come from? And talk about cussing - it seems they believe "darn" and "heck" (you know the real words) and a few others are just part of the regular language. My 4 year old grandson often sits in the shack with me, and I have learned to never tune in 80 meters SSB when he is present.

[w5ljm]

CB lingo is so common in our area on 2 meters that our new EOC coordinator is affraid of the outcome during the event of an emergency.

He just knows he's going to hear "10-4, there's flooding on the north string of the Medina River, and good buddy, I think it's headed you way, definitely fer sure. So tie down your load and get ready for the flip side. 10-4, how copy?

Now can you imagine having to pass traffic like that? Scary,huh?

The hams need to imagine that they are face to face with the person on the other end of the transmission and speak to them as if they were face to face. Normal conversation. That's all. QTH, destinated, QSL, QRT and other designators are not even necessary on 2 meters. Just plain language. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ka0gkt]

Waaaaaaaaaay back when almost everything on 2-meters was either AM or CW and folks operated home brew rigs or stuff made by Faust Gonset, the ten code was often used by amateur radio operators...and this was long before 27.185 was the "Truckers' Channel", C.W.McCall got himself a Convoy and anyone ever even thought of "Freeband".

The 10 code originated in public safety communications and was specifically meant for phone operations. #Q signals were designed for morse code transmissions. #There are no Q-signals which begin QU, so, with few exceptions (the couple of english words beginning with a "Q" and not followed by a "U") if you hear anything in Morse Code which starts with "Q" and anything other than "U" following it, it is a Q-signal.

It is not quite so easy with the 10-codes. #For instance, 10-100 in some areas means that they will be taking five for personal reasons (QWC #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) #in the The Association of Public-Safety Communications Officials (APCO) ten code, 10-100 used to mean to have the police respond to the scene. The DEA uses the 10-100 code to call for radio silence; at NASA facilities, it means "Parking Meter".

While Q-signals sare standardized, the 10-code really never was...other than what was used for C.B. #

The same goes for "THE CODES" #Anyone old enough to remember the TV series "Adam-12" will remember the officers being told to respond "Code Three" or with Lights and Sirens. #If Pete Malloy (Martin Millner) and Jim Reed (Kent McCord) had been in Ft. Lee, NJ instead of Los Angeles, CA, they would have expected a "Semi-Emergency" and would have proceeded with caution. #In Norfolk, VA, Code three would have meant, normal priority, no lights or siren.

In my home town, at one time, the officers in the prowl cars would have requested "Rabble" when the time for a meal came. #The term "Rabble" came from what McDonald's costume charecter, the "Hamburgular" and his one word vocabulary "Rabble Rabble". #Usually, the cops would head for Mickey-D's 10-16...err...10-39...ah...Code Three...or was that Code One...the same way they headed for the Do-Nut shop...Lights and Sirens. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73 DE KAØGKT/7

--Steve

[w8cbc]

KA0GKT/7: Quote[/b] ]The same goes for "THE CODES" Anyone old enough to remember the TV series "Adam-12" will remember the officers being told to respond "Code Three" or with Lights and Sirens. If Pete Malloy (Martin Millner) and Jim Reed (Kent McCord) had been in Ft. Lee, NJ instead of Los Angeles, CA, they would have expected a "Semi-Emergency" and would have proceeded with caution. In Norfolk, VA, Code three would have meant, normal priority, no lights or siren.

"Attention all units, this is Sergeant Stedenko. We are changing from a Code 3 - direct pursuit - to a Code 347 - completely lost due to incompetence."

I wonder if any departments use Code 347 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W9JI]

42 cmon driva

[w5ljm]

Everyone seems to be more concerned about what is said than how it is said. #I could care less if someone "whines". He or she has something to share, good news or bad news, I thought that was what "Ragchewing" was all about. Talking about whatever comes to mind.
If they're "bumming" you out, change the subject.

I can tell you this. If everytime I got on the air and everyone constantly talked about technical crap and antennas and I built my own rig or i got a 100,000,000 foot tower, #I'd change the frequency so fast it'd make my head spin.

I'd rather listen to someone talk about their health or the weather than that constant technical, political and digital garb. Most of all, the constant arguing and bickering.

[ae1x]

Look, we need numbers don't we? What difference does it make where they operated before and what lingo they use as long as they abide by Part 97?

We have a group on 146.58 up here that rag chews regularly. It puts activity on the band. I haven't heard much lingo or any bad language, but I can tell you that the discussions remind me of the decent times I had on CB in the early 1970's. BTW: I'm ashamed to tell you that I spent many good years on that band with some very wonderful people, in fact I married one!

Ragchewing is a tradition that has survived in the hobby forever. Why change now or bad mouth ragchewers because of the lingo they use?

You know, you people chased my cousin, a KG4KPE, off because he graduated from that service. We should be congradulating such people for this move not riding them. The good ole' boys from GA were not very inviting to a new comer. My cousin has been a trucker and a day laborer, but he has taught himself all about PCs and radio. It seems to me that we should welcome people like this and tolerate them as they are asimilated into our culture. This just reminds me of the same bigotry that we have used to put down immigrants of all strips.

We should be growing this hobby by welcoming all who want to use our spectrum. We need the occupants. How will we achieve awards, or work precision DX, or any of the other multitude of activities we engage in without people that we can work?

Ken

[w2nsf]

If you don't nip the bad behavior in the bud, then you're doing the hobby a great disservice. OK, they swear at you on the air. Take the time to document the activity (callsigns, examples of violations, dates, times, frequencies) and send it to ARRL or FCC. This hobby has a rich history of self-governance. That means individual hams must take it upon themselves to mentor newbies and correct bad behavior when it occurs. If you and your fellow "good guys" band together and make it a point to jump on these LIDs and write the reports, then you can take your hobby back. Otherwise, it's going down the tubes and you're part of the reason. OK?
73
Jim (stepping back down off my soap box) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[w5ljm]

I've "elmered" a few incoming new hams.

In doing so, I explain(in private,not on the air) the fact that this is not CB anymore, this is Amateur Radio. And although the use of CB lingo is not ruled out by FCC Part 97, it is still frowned upon by Hams. And how some, not all, hams "converted" to ham radio to escape from the CB spectrum and really don't care to hear the noise that CB has transformed into.
So, If for some reason they cannot shake the CB habit and continue to use it's lingo, expect to be chastised publicly on the air by some.

Some of them listened, and some are still a bit confused between the two. #The day will come when I'll have to say "I told you so" to them. A sad day indeed http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif .

[ae1x]

Quote[/b] (w2nsf @ Dec. 20 2005,07:36)]If you don't nip the bad behavior in the bud, then you're doing the hobby a great disservice. OK, they swear at you on the air. Take the time to document the activity (callsigns, examples of violations, dates, times, frequencies) and send it to ARRL or FCC. This hobby has a rich history of self-governance. That means individual hams must take it upon themselves to mentor newbies and correct bad behavior when it occurs. If you and your fellow "good guys" band together and make it a point to jump on these LIDs and write the reports, then you can take your hobby back. Otherwise, it's going down the tubes and you're part of the reason. OK?
73
Jim (stepping back down off my soap box) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Friend,

I couldn't agree with you more about the foul language. There is no room for it on either service. It is illegal on any radio service, not just amateur radio.

What I'm saying is that there are plenty of guys that have made to switch, me included, that have switched with time to use the proper jargon. It takes time to change for anyone that has used a particular method for communicating. Look at our foreign friends that are learning our language and the problems they have expressing themselves because of the different arrangement of our language compared to the one they are coming from. We learn to tolerate them and with time they come around just as with time we would come around in their native language if we were to relocate their native lands.

We need to be more tolerant and welcoming. Let's get on the stick and welcome people to this great hobby rather than alienating them. Alienate bad apples and welcome others.

Ken

[ai4ep]

Is there a universal radio rule violation that band / forbids profane language or does it vary from service to service ( public service, amateue, cb, frs, gmrs, etc ).....even the minor words like s*** and d*** and h*** ?

I know I grow tired of these folks with the " limited vocabulary " on local 2 meter repeaters ( Birmingham , Al. & Huntsville, Al. ) not to mention the "steering wheel holders " on the cb 19 crowd.

Hey it is getting where late night tv folks ( Leno / Letterman, etc have to curse during their monologue these days ( they must think it is " so cute " ).

It is getting to where it is ok to curse a blue streak, but just dont mention god or you will be in trouble.

[ae1x]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Dec. 20 2005,13:48)]Is there a universal radio rule violation that band / forbids profane language or does it vary from service to service ( public service, amateue, cb, frs, gmrs, etc ).....even the minor words like s*** and d*** and h*** ?

I know I grow tired of these folks with the " limited vocabulary " on local 2 meter repeaters ( Birmingham , Al. & Huntsville, Al. ) not to mention the "steering wheel holders " on the cb 19 crowd.

Hey it is getting where late night tv folks ( Leno / Letterman, etc have to curse during their monologue these days ( they must think it is " so cute " ).

It is getting to where it is ok to curse a blue streak, but just dont mention god or you will be in trouble.
There is a general radio regulation that forbids volgar, profane, and obsene language. It is not specific to any service. It is a part of the Acts of 1934 as amended and was covered in the test study material for the third class radiotelephone license before this was eliminated.

You will find similar, if not exact, language in the ITU language which serves as the treaty between nations.

Ken

[W9JI]

I have heard people off the air talk the same way,,,,minus the cursing,,could this just be another dialect of English, sorta like ebonics?

I mean we may not like it but that does not make it wrong?

I have the hardest time talking to someone with a Louisiana Creole dialect so should we MAKE THEM STOP?

I'm just thinking out loud is all http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[ai4ep]

I have always enjoyed having a energy filled debate with some one else who did not have to resort to " 4 letter - words " in a verbal debate, even when over trivial situations / occurrences....just as you do.

I guess some folks just arent real good as " expressing theirselves" verbally unless some 4 letters words are thrown in so they can make their " point " .

I just usually tell them..." if you have to curse, then in my mind, you have already lost with that limited vocabulary " , then walk away .

[k9ekg]

Ten-foh.....

[AG3Y]

Do we want to get into the typical QSO on 75 phone , at least on certain frequencies ? "HELLLLLLLOOOOO RRRRAAAADDDDIIIOOO - - -WAAAAAEEEEEEOOOOOO - - - yup that's 2000 watts. How'my doin down yur way, Bob " Jus great, Sam , yur bout 60 over 9 tonight !

( long pause ) Yur not quite as good as last night, only 30 over 9 Whacha do to your antenna, break it ? OverOver


ETC infinity ad nauseum

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[KD6NIG]

Where are the control operators of these repeaters when this kind of behavior is occuring?

We have had as of late a few 'new' operators coming onto the repeater and getting foul, trying to start fights, etc. But, usually they are lucky to make it to the second transmission before the repeater is suddenly turned off, and on the output the repeater trustee is announcing with 50W from his home QTH that the person who was using said behavior caused it to be shut down. The second time he did it later he was informed verbally by the repeater trustee, and called me and another amateur on the phone to verify we heard him say it. After that, the person was never on again.

Most of the repeaters around here won't tolerate such behavior, and the trustees will flip the switch pretty quick if any of that starts around here.

I would ask "Where are the trustees" of those repeaters you're hearing those antics on, because they are just as liable for allowing the behavior as those who are preforming the behavior, according to the FCC. That very reason is why around here I don't hear much in that way at all, and when I do, the repeater usually goes off the face of the earth for a while to stop said behavior.

They have even, in some instances, gone the registered letter route to stop the behavior. A fellow ham friend of mine was being hassled on a repeater once and the trustee stepped in and stopped it as soon as it started, and then the trustee called my friend and apologised to him for the behavior and hoped that it wouldn't affect him using the repeater in the future.

Then we do have the other end of the scale-another local repeater has been a hour off on its time announcements since the time change, so I'm not sure what would happen if someone went 'off the deep end' on that one. So far, nothing has happened to make that have to occur. I guess if something did happen, a quick ID and bailout on the conversation would be the only recourse.