View Full Version : KP5 / Desecheo
K3STX
12-16-2005, 01:24 AM
You wanna hear some pile-ups, this might be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, sort of like North Korea. Maybe the US Fish and Wildlife will open it up more after this, but KP5 is super-rare, #8 on most wanted lists. News is it starts tonight or tomorrow, maybe one week operation.
paul
Maybe this is happening, maybe you should pass me some of the egg-nog, this is what I came across on the web:
Dream On! (http://www.dxholiday.com/na/kp5.htm) (QUOTING)
WB2WIK
12-16-2005, 01:39 AM
Quote[/b] (K3STX @ Dec. 15 2005,18:24)]You wanna hear some pile-ups, this might be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, sort of like North Korea. Maybe the US Fish and Wildlife will open it up more after this, but KP5 is super-rare, #8 on most wanted lists. News is it starts tonight or tomorrow, maybe one week operation.
paul
KP5 "who?" What's the call and what frequencies?
I'm game. The tree is lighted and the kids are at the mall, I'm good to go.
This is what the cluster has:
VE8DX-@ 14240.0 KP5XX EME only dx-pedition 0132 16 Dec
Tom kcØw
http://www.dailydx.com/kp5.htm
KC7UP
12-16-2005, 03:00 AM
Glad I got it as KP2A in 1981.
Curt
N3KS/KP5 and K3LP/KP5 should be the calls used. QSL via W3ADC. I hope we hear from them soon.
Well I finally got them in the log. Kinda embarassing to listen though. Good grief what a bunch of lids. Intentional qrm, almost every band cop on the planet! It's a wonder ops would want to put up with all this crap and even run a expedition. Thanks.
KC9EOG
12-16-2005, 06:55 PM
I just don't understand this mentality, I mean who really cares if someone has worked Desecheo Is. Your kids don't. I don't mean to sound bitter about the whole deal, but this place is less than 20 miles from Puerto Rico. I have worked Puerto Rico, apparently, as it has a pin in it on my map, but I don't remember working it. It couldn't have been that memorable. North Korea is a big deal, but Japan isn't? Italy can go calling all day long, but if vatican city comes on it's a pile-up. Seems a little silly to me.
Oh well, 73 and best dx.
wa9cwx
12-16-2005, 07:40 PM
Like a rare coin, one in ten million/million, with hundreds of thousands of collectors looking for it, if you wind up with it, just buy a pack of gum who cares....
yea RIGHT!
DX is DX because...IT IS RARE.
That IS the fun of working DX.
Some because so few HAMS, SOME because so few PEOPLE, let alone hams, some because BECAUSE...like that atoll in the Pacific last year that only surfaces when the waves don't get too high.
Can't remember the call, but the thing was considered a myth for a century or so because it is so easy to miss, like 5 feet high and 50 feet wide or some crazy thing.
OR DX can be a disputed area, several of THOSE.
Or a political oddity, like the Vatican.
Or even more strange, like the ham in western VK land who considers his ranch a seperate country.....(NOT exactly ok with the IARU I suspect, let alone Australia)!
Anyway, it IS fun, and a neat side to our hobby, perhaps even more so years ago, when the world was larger and some areas more remote!
Quote[/b] (KC9EOG @ Dec. 16 2005,18:55)]I just don't understand this mentality, I mean who really cares if someone has worked Desecheo Is.
It's all about how many amateurs have/are operating from any given local.
Puerto Rico is easy because of the hundreds of amateurs living there. Desecheo, on the other hand is "rare" because the US Fish & Wildlife Service has considered it's operation off limits for many years now.
Another example is Andorra (C3). Not too many amateurs living there.....But, they refuse to license ANY DXpeditions. If you are not a citizen of Andorra, you are not going to activate C3 land.
The United Nations station of 4U1UN is located in one of the most populated cities in the world. (NYC) Yet every time they get on the air a pileup is sure to follow.
Amateur radio is a strange hobby indeed!!!
Tom kcØw
Quote[/b] (wa9cwx @ Dec. 16 2005,19:40)]Can't remember the call, but the thing was considered a myth for a century or so because it is so easy to miss, like 5 feet high and 50 feet wide or some crazy thing.
The "country" you are thinking of might have been #Scarsborough Reef. #It was an interesting DX catch for many. I never followed up to see if I ever received official ARRL credit for it when I worked them years ago. I know there was/is a long story involved with it's activation. Take a look closely at the picture.......Like I said, amateur radio is a strange hobby.
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #Tom kcØw
wa9cwx
12-16-2005, 09:01 PM
Yep, I bet that was it. Remember reading about it, but forgot any details,
Thanks.
Frank
KC9ECI
12-16-2005, 10:44 PM
The guy announces that he's 'listening up' or 'listening 5 to 20 up' after each QSO. #Do the frequency cops think that they are going to have better luck communicating that idea than he is? #What a bunch of idiots. #I could care less if I ever work KP5 at this rate.
ab8ma
12-17-2005, 12:39 AM
Leaving in the morning.
ab8ma
12-17-2005, 12:41 AM
U.S. stations ignore instructions and call using LSB on 7.082.5
ve2nsm
12-17-2005, 12:59 AM
I should be able to work him on VHF from here http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ab8ma
12-17-2005, 01:01 AM
When he called for Europe, all bedlam broke loose. Sudden simplex assumption on 7.082.43
Quote[/b] ] Can't remember the call, but the thing was considered a myth for a century or so because it is so easy to miss, like 5 feet high and 50 feet wide or some crazy thing.
Okino Tori-Shima maybe. Check this link for a couple pics on old qsl cards! Not my idea of a good vacation spot!!! Either place is pretty scary!
Okino Tori-Shima (http://hamgallery.com/qsl/deleted/Okino_Torishima/jf1ist.htm)
ab8ma
12-17-2005, 04:05 PM
KP5 1554Z 18150.0 US not stand by lik civil pers
KP5/N3KS 1553Z 18150.0 POOR, POOR!!! IN PUERTO RICO.
K3LR/KP5 1542Z 18150.0 Gone due to QRM
K3LP/KP4 1544Z 18150.0 Europe only # 4 155-165
KP5/K3LP 1541Z 18150.0 DX FROM (KP5) DEAD IN (KP4) P.
ab8ma
12-17-2005, 05:48 PM
K3LP/KP5 1735Z 24945.0 QRT - Leaving the island
W3MIV
12-17-2005, 10:21 PM
So, who filed the lawsuit?
KC9ECI
12-17-2005, 10:27 PM
http://www.fws.gov/southeast/Desecheo/
It was nice of them to risk death for the sake of DX.
w8znx
12-17-2005, 10:57 PM
not much of a wildlife refuge
no nesting sea birds
do to introduced by man
rats, feral cats, goats, and of all things rhesus monkeys
who's bright idea was it
to let rhesus monkeys loose on the island
sounds like a few guys with a ham station
could not do any more harm, even if they tryed
that was not allready done in spades
oh yes
and use it for a USN fireing range
man hate to think what might have been done
to the island if it was not a
" Wildlife Refuge " #
dit dit Mac
K9STH
12-18-2005, 12:53 AM
I was listening on 40 meters last night when one of the operators said that he had to QRX a minute. When he came back he explained that a rat had come through the door of the shelter and was running off with a whole loaf of bread.
Glen, K9STH
KC9ECI
12-18-2005, 03:04 AM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 17 2005,17:21)]So, who filed the lawsuit?
What? WHo? Links man links!
KC9ECI
12-18-2005, 03:13 AM
Nevermind. Google is my friend. http://www.dailydx.com/kp5.htm
W3MIV
12-18-2005, 11:25 AM
The most recent information that I have is that the suit was filed by the International Brotherhood of Rhesus Monkeys, an affiliate of the AFofL/CIO, on behalf of their Local 1217, Descheo Island Lodge.
Seems there was a dispute between the apportioning of favor between the Monkeys and the goats, who are represented by a Teamsters affiliate.
ad4mg
12-18-2005, 12:22 PM
Civil litigation is pending on behalf of the rat denied that loaf of bread. #A class action suit is being brought forth by all of the rats inhabiting the sewers of NYC on behalf of their brothers on that island! #Cindy Sheehan will protest on the lawn of the White House next week, as she claims it's a hostile action on the part of Haliburton to corner the bread market (reportedly worth billions) on Desecheo. A no-bid contract has been awarded to Kellog, Brown and Root, a subsidiary of Haliburton. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
K9STH
12-18-2005, 04:26 PM
Rumor has it that the group that filed the lawsuit was another group of amateur radio operators who wanted to be the first to put the island on the air.
Glen, K9STH
KC9ECI
12-18-2005, 04:29 PM
Quote[/b] (K9STH @ Dec. 18 2005,11:26)]Rumor has it that the group that filed the lawsuit was another group of amateur radio operators who wanted to be the first to put the island on the air.
Glen, K9STH
Now that's the amateur spirit!
KC9ECI
12-18-2005, 06:06 PM
Must be a rare breed of spotted rat.
K9STH
12-18-2005, 08:49 PM
But does that breed of rat make its nests in WalMart signs?
Glen, K9STH
WB2WIK
12-19-2005, 07:02 PM
Discretion's the better part of valor, and I guess the guys were intimidated enough to leave the island. I don't blame them.
It will be interesting to hear the real story as it unfolds.
There was a ham radio DXpedition to one of the islands in the South China Sea (I think -- it's been a long time) where hams got into it with the "local authorities" and ended up being Silent Keys. Now, that wasn't worth it.
I seem to remember hams trying to activate Bikini Atoll many years ago when it was being used for target practice by the Navy. That probably wasn't a good idea, either...
WB2WIK/6
N0KLT
12-19-2005, 07:50 PM
Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Dec. 19 2005,13:02)]I seem to remember hams trying to activate Bikini Atoll many years ago when it was being used for target practice by the Navy. That probably wasn't a good idea, either...
Sounds like a sure way to insure a "hot" signal. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ab8ma
12-20-2005, 04:38 PM
Quote[/b] (N0KLT @ Dec. 19 2005,19:50)]Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Dec. 19 2005,13:02)]I seem to remember hams trying to activate Bikini Atoll many years ago when it was being used for target practice by the Navy. #That probably wasn't a good idea, either...
Sounds like a sure way to insure a "hot" signal. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Lots of QRMilitary.
kl7aj
12-20-2005, 04:45 PM
Quote[/b] (k7mh @ Dec. 17 2005,00:06)]Quote[/b] ] Can't remember the call, but the thing was considered a myth for a century or so because it is so easy to miss, like 5 feet high and 50 feet wide or some crazy thing.
Okino Tori-Shima maybe. Check this link for a couple pics on old qsl cards! Not my idea of a good vacation spot!!! Either place is pretty scary!
Okino Tori-Shima (http://hamgallery.com/qsl/deleted/Okino_Torishima/jf1ist.htm)
If I operate from a sand bar in the middle of the Chena River, do I count as a new country? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
eric
kl7aj
12-20-2005, 04:51 PM
The refuge was established in 1912 to protect a large nesting colony of brown boobies.......
Ah yes....gotta love them well-tanned island women. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
eric
I just came across this post, I didn't realize how rare they were. I worked K3LP/KP5 on 15 meters last Friday morning, I had gotten out of school early due to being exempt from finals. I saw the spots on the cluster, and didn't have anything better to do. Sat for an hour, and logged them. I didn't realize at the time this was the same place that had been off limits. So getting my QSL card off to W3ADC tomorrow with SASE and hoping for the reply card. This card might be wall worthy http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
W3MIV
12-21-2005, 12:47 AM
Quote[/b] (KD5OWO @ Dec. 20 2005,19:32)]This card might be wall worthy http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Very wall worthy, indeed.
And I am happy you kept your gear and could be among the few, the proud who worked them.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
K3STX
12-21-2005, 03:13 AM
Don't forget to put a 39 cent stamp on that SASE!!! I think the rates increase on Jan. 8 and the cards won't even be back from the printer by then!!!
paul
KC9ECI
12-21-2005, 03:40 AM
I tried for a bit Friday while I was home for lunch, but there's just so much a guy can do with QRP and 20 minutes.
Quote[/b] (K3STX @ Dec. 21 2005,03:13)]Don't forget to put a 39 cent stamp on that SASE!!! I think the rates increase on Jan. 8 and the cards won't even be back from the printer by then!!!
paul
Yes, and also included two green-stamps donation. Glad I read about the 39 cent hike, I didn't realize until earlier tonight that they approved the hike.
Quote[/b] ]There was a ham radio DXpedition to one of the islands in the South China Sea (I think -- it's been a long time) where hams got into it with the "local authorities" and ended up being Silent Keys. #Now, that wasn't worth it.
I believe that was the first attempt at activating Spratly Is. after the Vietnam war was over. Both China and Vietnam claimed sovereignty if I'm not mistaken.