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k6bbc
12-07-2005, 04:57 AM
Okay, I’m in pretty good physical for a 49 year old man. I work out at a gym, earned a black belt in karate three years ago, and generally feel healthy (knock wood).

Two weeks ago the wife and I took on the project of re-landscaping the front of our house. Two year ago we did our backyard turning dead grass and dirt into a tropical paradise. Now it was the front’s turn. The grass was so old and dead, it required a jackhammer to remove it. Ultimately, we removed at least 4 tons of dirt and dead plants.

What I discovered is I’m a 49-year-old man with a 49-year-old back that needed trenches dug for the new sprinkler system.

Across the street reside a 15 year old, 6’2 varsity football and wrestling joke. I though, “why not ask him to work for me for a day to save my ever faltering back.” I called his Mom, who said he WAS interested in earning money. I told her I would pay 10 dollars per hour – not bad for a 15 year old I would say. The next day, his dad informed me he was in a wrestling tournament on Saturday and would be too tired to work on Sunday. I’ve watched wrestling. They roll around for a few minutes, then it’s over. It ain’t basketball or running a Marathon. I was speechless.

When I was a young lad, if a neighbor asked me to work and was going to pay between 60 and 80 dollars for the time and effort they would not have needed to ask twice. And, if the neighbor were hurt, I would felt guilt about taking the money. I am sure most of you feel the same. So on Sunday, as I’m just about crying in pain as I dig, the young lad rides past on his scooter.

So I ask, WHAT HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE KIDS?! Are they just used to their parents buying everything for them. I can tell you if one of my four kids were offered a job at 10 PER HOUR, I would kick their ass if they said they were too tired to work.

My wife has been telling me for day to just “let it go,” but I’m just so irked I had to vent.

K6BBC

WA5KRP
12-07-2005, 06:39 AM
Tony,


That's pitiful. #My kids glommed onto any job they could get. #The only thing weird about it was they preferred getting their wages from somebody beside me! #My two boys in college tell me working for dad was like working for Simon Legree. #I translate that to mean I was a little too demanding. #The boys assure me that's not it at all. #They say it's very simple: #I'm just a rotten sonuvabitch! #

They're coming along beautifully. #


WA5KRP http://deephousepage.com/smilies/rofl.gif
Texas

kf6rdn
12-07-2005, 07:05 AM
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Dec. 06 2005,21:57)]So I ask, WHAT HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE KIDS?! Are they just used to their parents buying everything for them.
That's it right there, why do all that work to earn money when you can just ask Dad for that new ipod.

al2i
12-07-2005, 07:57 AM
There is no mystery whatsoever. Our Western Judeo-Christian philosophical roots with the attendant value and emphasis placed on hard-work, fidelity, and charity have been under continuous assault by the vain, blood-sucking, money-crazed and sex-addicted leeches of Hollywood, who, in their abiding lust, have been the handmaidens of a growing Evil that is rapidly undoing thousands of years of progress and culture...

Well, either that, or the kids are just lazy.

WA5KRP
12-07-2005, 08:04 AM
Quote[/b] (al2i @ Dec. 07 2005,01:57)]There is no mystery whatsoever. #Our Western Judeo-Christian philosophical roots with the attendent value and emphasis placed on hard-work, fidelity, and charity have been under continuous assault by the vain, blood-sucking, money-crazed and sex-addicted leeches of Hollywood, who, in their abiding lust, have been the handmaidens of a growing Evil that is rapidly undoing thousands of years of progress and culture...
Let me know if you want to run for Congress. I'll throw money at you. K6BBC will join me.



WA5KRP
Texas

VE7NOT
12-07-2005, 08:04 AM
Quote[/b] (al2i @ Dec. 07 2005,00:57)]There is no mystery whatsoever. Our Western Judeo-Christian philosophical roots with the attendent value and emphasis placed on hard-work, fidelity, and charity have been under continuous assault by the vain, blood-sucking, money-crazed and sex-addicted leeches of Hollywood, who, in their abiding lust, have been the handmaidens of a growing Evil that is rapidly undoing thousands of years of progress and culture...

Well, either that, or the kids are just lazy.
we used to call those kids 'homos' in the 80's.. i still do.. now thay are called normal

wimps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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al2n
12-07-2005, 09:23 AM
Quote[/b] (al2i @ Dec. 07 2005,00:57)]There is no mystery whatsoever. #Our Western Judeo-Christian philosophical roots with the attendant value and emphasis placed on hard-work, fidelity, and charity have been under continuous assault by the vain, blood-sucking, money-crazed and sex-addicted leeches of Hollywood, who, in their abiding lust, have been the handmaidens of a growing Evil that is rapidly undoing thousands of years of progress and culture...

Well, either that, or the kids are just lazy.
I would have to agree.

Our culture has changed from family based with respect to your parents to one ruled by MTV, Madonna, and of course the ever polite talents of Eminem and 50 cent.

If you do not know who those people are, ask your kids.

Odds are pretty good that your kids know who they are and that should worry the living daylights out of you.

Heros these days are gansters and perverts. The more vile and obscene you are, the more albums you will sell.

KC9ECI
12-07-2005, 09:48 AM
If I lived across the street from you, my 39 year old back would be digging trenches for $10 an hour. I can always use an easy source of cash. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

N8CPA
12-07-2005, 10:25 AM
Too much Ritalin and coddlin', and no paddlin' makes Jack a tired boy. At his age, I would have jumped on that as good, dirty fun and might even have done it for free!

KI4LZK
12-07-2005, 12:22 PM
Well BBC let me tell you, I don't know what is wrong with him. Most people would jump at that opportunity. Maybe this points out a lack of work ethic, which might be a good thing for your wallet, that you did not hire him. I believe that a lot of it is padding by parents. There are quite a few parents that think they are doing the kids a favor by not making them work for stuff. I disagree just because of the way I was raised. My parents have always encouraged me to work for anything I want. They have bought me stuff, but I have had to earn it. Who knows, maybe his dad doesn't like you. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif No, that couldn't be it!

Some people regardless of age are asinine! This is one of the reasons that we have so many people, which have no sort of disability, yet they remain on welfare and social security. It is an indicator of the type of society we live in. This is obvious in what ever you look, Ham Radio, school, and work. I am not sure how we can change the way this is going, but something must be done in order to stop this moral/values decay.

- Josh

ac4ut
12-07-2005, 12:51 PM
What's wrong with kids? The parents!!!!

KF0RT
12-07-2005, 01:46 PM
Quote[/b] (ac4ut @ Dec. 07 2005,05:51)]What's wrong with kids? The parents!!!!
And what's wrong with the parents? THEIR parents!

(I've traced this one all the way back to Adam and Eve).

73, Rob

k7unz
12-07-2005, 02:16 PM
Hey, I'm an old retired guy of 62 and for $10.00 and hour I'd still be right over there with you!! #

Oh, maybe not this Sunday 'cos I'm in the middle of re-sealing my house roof.....by myself (hi).

Jim/k7unz

k6bbc
12-07-2005, 02:55 PM
Quote[/b] (al2i @ Dec. 07 2005,00:57)]There is no mystery whatsoever. #Our Western Judeo-Christian philosophical roots with the attendant value and emphasis placed on hard-work, fidelity, and charity have been under continuous assault by the vain, blood-sucking, money-crazed and sex-addicted leeches of Hollywood, who, in their abiding lust, have been the handmaidens of a growing Evil that is rapidly undoing thousands of years of progress and culture...

Well, either that, or the kids are just lazy.
Ouch...

k6bbc
12-07-2005, 03:26 PM
Quote[/b] (k7unz @ Dec. 07 2005,07:16)]Hey, I'm an old retired guy of 62 and for $10.00 and hour I'd still be right over there with you!! #

Oh, maybe not this Sunday 'cos I'm in the middle of re-sealing my house roof.....by myself (hi).

Jim/k7unz
I feel the same way.

I love working on my house and that fits well with me being a cheapskate. I'd rather kill my back than pay someone so for me to offer 10 an hours I must have really been in pain.

Bottom line, I just did it anyway. Perhaps the trenches are not as deep as I wanted, but the sprinklers work great and the new lawn is beautiful. Perhaps later today I will post a picture.

K6bbc

k6bbc
12-07-2005, 03:32 PM
Quote[/b] (ki4lzk @ Dec. 07 2005,05:22)]Who knows, maybe his dad doesn't like you. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif No, that couldn't be it!
No, that’s not it. I have a great relationship with his dad. In fact, he later came over and was admiring just how hard my kids worked. By the shaking of his head, I read between the lines that he was baffled by his kids behavior.

If it were me, I would have kicked that kids ass over here – but that’s me. My kids think I’m a tyrant.

But let me just say this little truism I have observed:

As an adult, I have NEVER heard another adult complaining their parents were to strict – I have heard adults complain their parents were not strict enough.

K6bbc

KI4LZK
12-07-2005, 03:34 PM
My dad would have been all over me http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif)

KD6NIG
12-07-2005, 03:40 PM
Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ Dec. 07 2005,06:46)]Quote[/b] (ac4ut @ Dec. 07 2005,05:51)]What's wrong with kids? The parents!!!!
And what's wrong with the parents? #THEIR parents! #

(I've traced this one all the way back to Adam and Eve).

73, Rob
No, I disagree, this lazy kids syndrome is from the recent set of parents only.

It was already starting when I was growing up (I'm now 31) and now its even worse.

I wouldn't blame the prior parents though, at least in my case. I was expected to do things around the house and thats just the way it was. I was usually given a list of stuff by my dad, and the simple fact was the list was done by friday, lest I want to deal with him on the fact it wasn't completed. No arguments, no discussion, it was done.

It seems like nowadays kids have all this technology purchased by thier parents. When I was a senior in high school and I started Ham radio, I wanted an HTX-202. I got it by saving money from the job my father demanded I get at age 16 when he got me a used car. No job, no car, period. And, with the job, I was still expected to do things around the house. Some things like the every Saturday lawn mowing were passed to my younger brother due to the fact I was at work all day, but other tasks remained. Again, these were implied, and not doing so usually meant removal of privledges.

But I'm not shocked to hear about what I'm hearing today. We supposedly don't want to give children a F in school because telling them they are failing is demoralizing. I had a few friends who got F's, and I garnered a D or 2 in my day also-but it wasn't because they were demoralized. They were simply not doing the job because they didn't want to. One of my D's was in Spanish, and I tried my best, and I proved this to my father. The other D, I was slacking, and I lost privledges till I got off my butt and got it taken care of. Period, the end.

Part of this though is this phenomon that parents can no longer spank thier kids in many eyes. I don't advocate beating kids, but sometimes a good swat to the behind does construe the message of NO much better than having someone sit in a corner. I think I got spanked twice in my life, and because of the fear of that, or the fear of losing privledges that I liked having, I didn't misbehave. Also, my parents DID provide me many things I asked for, but the big ticket items were earned, either directly, or by doing 'extra work' for the old man.

I would think that even having your kids do basic chores would instill into them some kind of work ethic. As it stands now, most of the really young people my security firm hires want to be at the sites where they don't have to do anything but sit. The reality is, those are the lowest paying sites, and if they don't have any work ethic, they aren't going to move up in the world of...security even. They could make twice as much or more money, but to do so would involve a bit of work and movement out of the car they are sitting in for 8 hours a day "working"-playing a videogame, probably.

So, parents using the TV as entertainment and as a babysitter has now evolved into cell phones, portable dvd players, i-pods, computers and the like. Chores would cut into this time, and the parents, having to survive (especially in California) and being able to afford the kids, have to both work. They come home, are tired, don't want to deal with the kids, so this entertainment/babysitting continues. Unfortunatly without supervision the kids basically do what they want (sure within boundries, but not major ones) and then we expect them to head out into the world and WORK. Nope, doesn't happen. Epsecially when they are on a job, make a mistake, are told they failed, and totally freak out because they never experienced failure before. And all of the marketing for said gadgets helps-its easier for the parent to give another $200 to the babysitter so the kid will keep quiet than to tell them to perhaps preform a little work to obtain said product.

Its a scary road we're headed down, and the transition from 'childhood' to 'reality' is a much bigger step because of it. These kids go from having everything mostly, to having nothing and (gasp!) having to EARN money to pay for stuff....what the heck is this!


I thank my parents for making me understand early that the gifts or toys I got were NOT free, and that, at times, I had to sweat a bit to get things I wanted. Lord knows I'm sweating today to maintain my life, and my dad sweat an awful lot to make sure my first 18+ years were comfortable for me. However, the comfort also came with the lesson that I needed to do my part to help out, and those lessons help me today as I work a 50+ hour week and "earn my keep" so to speak.

ae4fa
12-07-2005, 06:09 PM
Tony, I hope you used a mattock rather than a shovel for the trenches, but it doesn't sound like it. A good, heavy mattock does most of the work for you (roots excepted) - then you just need a narrow garden shovel for clean-up.

Good job, fella. Glad you got it done.

And, the comments (post-job) from the dad across the street are most telling. What he doesn't realize is he got exactly what he bargained for.

k6bbc
12-07-2005, 06:21 PM
Quote[/b] (ae4fa @ Dec. 07 2005,11:09)]Tony, I hope you used a mattock rather than a shovel for the trenches, but it doesn't sound like it. #A good, heavy mattock does most of the work for you (roots excepted) - then you just need a narrow garden shovel for clean-up.

Good job, fella. #Glad you got it done.

And, the comments (post-job) from the dad across the street are most telling. #What he doesn't realize is he got exactly what he bargained for.
I used a heavy-duty roto tiller (twice) and yes it did help. Still, the pain was so bad I was screaming (not quite) on every shovel.

In terms of the dad - you reap what you sow. Exactly right.

K6BBC

K8ERV
12-07-2005, 06:31 PM
Quote[/b] (ac4ut @ Dec. 07 2005,05:51)]What's wrong with kids? The parents!!!!
Right on. I am one. Someone stole my whip----


TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

WA5VQM
12-07-2005, 06:40 PM
Quote[/b] (k7unz @ Dec. 07 2005,07:16)]Hey, I'm an old retired guy of 62 and for $10.00 and hour I'd still be right over there with you!!

Oh, maybe not this Sunday 'cos I'm in the middle of re-sealing my house roof.....by myself (hi).

Jim/k7unz
I'm 50, have a bad back, and I'll do it for $9/hr.

Price war! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Would like to see a picture....

73,

Mark - WA5VQM

ab8ma
12-07-2005, 06:44 PM
Quote[/b] (WA5VQM @ Dec. 07 2005,18:40)]Quote[/b] (k7unz @ Dec. 07 2005,07:16)]Hey, I'm an old retired guy of 62 and for $10.00 and hour I'd still be right over there with you!! #

Oh, maybe not this Sunday 'cos I'm in the middle of re-sealing my house roof.....by myself (hi).

Jim/k7unz
I'm 50, have a bad back, and I'll do it for $9/hr.

Price war! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Would like to see a picture....

73,

Mark - WA5VQM
Ok. I am 55. I will do it for $6.00 per hour.


360 Hour Minimum. Weekends between 12:00 and 14:00. You SUPPLY THE BEER.

ac4ut
12-07-2005, 07:04 PM
Quote[/b] (K8ERV @ Dec. 07 2005,11:31)]Quote[/b] (ac4ut @ Dec. 07 2005,05:51)]What's wrong with kids? The parents!!!!
Right on. I am one. Someone stole my whip----


TOM K8ERV #Montrose Colo
So use a club!

After careful consideration I will also add that the thing wrong with a lot of individuals in general these days is accountability,or lack of it.

WA5VQM
12-07-2005, 07:46 PM
Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Dec. 07 2005,11:44)]Quote[/b] (WA5VQM @ Dec. 07 2005,18:40)]Quote[/b] (k7unz @ Dec. 07 2005,07:16)]Hey, I'm an old retired guy of 62 and for $10.00 and hour I'd still be right over there with you!!

Oh, maybe not this Sunday 'cos I'm in the middle of re-sealing my house roof.....by myself (hi).

Jim/k7unz
I'm 50, have a bad back, and I'll do it for $9/hr.

Price war! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Would like to see a picture....

73,

Mark - WA5VQM
Ok. I am 55. I will do it for $6.00 per hour.


360 Hour Minimum. Weekends between 12:00 and 14:00. You SUPPLY THE BEER.
$5.75

Domestic beer.

12:00 to 14:15

One In-N-Out Double-double.

Mark - WA5VQM

KA9VQF
12-07-2005, 08:31 PM
Thirty or so years ago I was in wrestling in high school. I wrestled unlimited heavy weight. There were few other schools that had anyone in my weight class so I didn’t have to actually wrestle much to win my matches by default. Upon occasion I did actually have to face an opponent. That is the main reason I have a bum back these days. {or so the doc tells me}

This being said I also did work at a Texaco gas station. I changed tires and oil and other things that were done at full service gas stations at the time.

I was never to pooped to wrestle.

{ever change a 16.5 truck tire on a split rim? (hint) This can be real work.}

Naturally living in northwest Wisconsin I never got the chance to do gardening type work during the school year. {to much snow for gardening} I did in the summer months but rarely the type of work you had to offer.

I vote for this kid just being lazy.

An awful lot of the kids around here are pretty lazy too. I have a lot and a half of land here. The house takes up a great deal of the yard space. On an average day I can have it mowed in less than a half hours time. A few summers ago I was having a real bad spell of bad back and was forced to hire one of the neighbor kids to mow for me for a few weeks.

He charged me $20.00 each time and refused to do the weed whacking, even though I had a nice little gas powered string trimmer available.

He would show up usually in the late afternoon start the mower make a few passes then stop ride his bike to the local Casey’s to get a bottle of pop, ride back drink the pop in the shade then make a few more passes and then go for another soda.

It would take him just over an hour of actual work to get this postage stamp size yard done. After the third of fourth time of doing this he said he would have to have more money because it took so much of his time. I told him I would do it myself and then I told him what I thought of his work ethic.

He didn’t appreciate my constructive criticism. His dad called me to discuss it further. I now have two more people who are eagerly awaiting my obituary.

k7unz
12-07-2005, 08:44 PM
With all you other guys undercutting me, I guess I have only one option.....

I'll pay BBC $5/hr, and bring my own beer, just for the chance to WATCH you guys work!!

For VQF, concerning "speedy's" dad calling, it's plain to see why the kid is the way he is. #Wonder if daddy clown is gonna call everyplace the looser gets fired from during his lifetime.......

Jim/k7unz

KC0KBH
12-07-2005, 09:33 PM
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Dec. 06 2005,15:57)]Okay, I’m in pretty good physical for a 49 year old man. I work out at a gym, earned a black belt in karate three years ago, and generally feel healthy (knock wood).

Two weeks ago the wife and I took on the project of re-landscaping the front of our house. Two year ago we did our backyard turning dead grass and dirt into a tropical paradise. Now it was the front’s turn. The grass was so old and dead, it required a jackhammer to remove it. Ultimately, we removed at least 4 tons of dirt and dead plants.

What I discovered is I’m a 49-year-old man with a 49-year-old back that needed trenches dug for the new sprinkler system.

Across the street reside a 15 year old, 6’2 varsity football and wrestling joke. I though, “why not ask him to work for me for a day to save my ever faltering back.” I called his Mom, who said he WAS interested in earning money. I told her I would pay 10 dollars per hour – not bad for a 15 year old I would say. The next day, his dad informed me he was in a wrestling tournament on Saturday and would be too tired to work on Sunday. I’ve watched wrestling. They roll around for a few minutes, then it’s over. It ain’t basketball or running a Marathon. I was speechless.

When I was a young lad, if a neighbor asked me to work and was going to pay between 60 and 80 dollars for the time and effort they would not have needed to ask twice. And, if the neighbor were hurt, I would felt guilt about taking the money. I am sure most of you feel the same. So on Sunday, as I’m just about crying in pain as I dig, the young lad rides past on his scooter.

So I ask, WHAT HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE KIDS?! Are they just used to their parents buying everything for them. I can tell you if one of my four kids were offered a job at 10 PER HOUR, I would kick their ass if they said they were too tired to work.

My wife has been telling me for day to just “let it go,” but I’m just so irked I had to vent.

K6BBC
Trenches dug?!?!?! My dad and I put in sprinklers, and we use a Case Mini Sneaker. Also works nice around the house for pulling in wires. What are you using for heads?

w5ljm
12-07-2005, 10:49 PM
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Dec. 06 2005,15:57)]"his dad informed me he was in a wrestling tournament on Saturday and would be too tired to work on Sunday. "#
Sounds to me like the kid had no say so in it. Don't take it out on him. He may have done it, BUT I believe the lads daddy is doing the talking for him.
The kid will probably never learn to speak for himself.

k6bbc
12-08-2005, 12:10 AM
Quote[/b] (w5ljm @ Dec. 07 2005,15:49)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Dec. 06 2005,15:57)]"his dad informed me he was in a wrestling tournament on Saturday and would be too tired to work on Sunday. "#
Sounds to me like the kid had no say so in it. Don't take it out on him. He may have done it, BUT I believe the lads daddy is doing the talking for him.
The kid will probably never learn to speak for himself.
I don't think so. The dad seemed miffed at his son, although not able to do anythng about it.

al2i
12-08-2005, 03:03 AM
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Dec. 07 2005,17:10)]Quote[/b] (w5ljm @ Dec. 07 2005,15:49)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Dec. 06 2005,15:57)]"his dad informed me he was in a wrestling tournament on Saturday and would be too tired to work on Sunday. "
Sounds to me like the kid had no say so in it. Don't take it out on him. He may have done it, BUT I believe the lads daddy is doing the talking for him.
The kid will probably never learn to speak for himself.
I don't think so. The dad seemed miffed at his son, although not able to do anythng about it.
I've had 30 or so different teens and low twenty-somethings work for me the past few years, and I can say with some authority that most parents are definitely dissappointed in their kids' work ethic. I've hired pretty good kids -- they generally will not steal or cause major problems, but only half of them will assume responsibility and only one in ten will give you a true blue honest day's work.

My general solution is to pay the poorest performers less. That makes everybody happy if done right.

KF0RT
12-08-2005, 03:15 AM
Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Dec. 07 2005,08:40)]Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ Dec. 07 2005,06:46)]Quote[/b] (ac4ut @ Dec. 07 2005,05:51)]What's wrong with kids? The parents!!!!
And what's wrong with the parents? THEIR parents!

(I've traced this one all the way back to Adam and Eve).

73, Rob
No, I disagree, this lazy kids syndrome is from the recent set of parents only.
I don't disagree with most of what you've written, Josh, but I tend to take more of a historical perspective, and that's where parental lineage comes in.

The Baby Boomers were the first generation of Americans who "had it easy." This is my generation and our parents were the product of the Great Depression and WWII. Their parents had WWI and the real industrialization of this nation.

My grandfather served in WWI and my dad in WWII. They both came from very strict upbringings where everything you had was hard earned. It's just the way things were, and if you go back further in time, things get even harder.

My father's generation made a very strong effort to make sure his kids had things better and easier. Why? Probably because they thought things were TOO hard for them while growing up. Plus, technology made everything easier. When my grandfather was a kid, cars were on the drawing board, but if you went to town, it required a horse or a very long walk.

"Children nowadays are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food and tyrannise their teachers. "

Socrates wrote that almost 2,500 years ago. Recent set of parents? I don't think so. This has been going on since the beginning of recorded time. Oh, sure, there may be peaks and valleys if one were to graph it out over time, but your perception is no different than what people were saying millenia ago. What you lack is the historical perspective.

As parents, we all want our kids to be the best and brightest. We want bragging rights, dammit. We want them to be better than we were. My <son/daughter> helps the elderly every weekend and is an astronaut during the week!

Pretty high standard if you ask me, and very few are up to it, but most kids become good citizens anyway. Yeah, maybe digging in the dirt for a few bucks isn't a high priority for many kids today. Values do shift over time, and that has always been the case. I'm glad my "icebox" doesn't require delivered ice.

I'm sure I gave my parents a case of the "lazy kid" blues way back when. At the risk of sounding like a flaming liberal, it's always been a case of "different strokes for different folks."

If you think today's kids are inherently lazy, you might want to dig a bit deeper.

73, Rob

al2i
12-08-2005, 03:27 AM
Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ Dec. 07 2005,20:15)]I'm sure I gave my parents a case of the "lazy kid" blues way back when. At the risk of sounding like a flaming liberal, it's always been a case of "different strokes for different folks."
It shocked me to learn that my parents think of me as a really hard worker. If they only knew.... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

KC0KBH
12-08-2005, 03:43 AM
Really though,
I don't like the stereotype of my "generation", if that is what you want to call it. I am not like most other people my age. I hate new music, I love working and getting money, I hate watching MTV; most of what I watch is on the History channel. I can't even stand any music made in at least the last 15 years, more like 20. I think when kids at school are going for the whole gangster/rapper look, it sure looks like they are making a complete idiot out of themselves. I only have a few friends at school, and they are not freaks like most of my grade. Once a kid was making fun of me, and a teacher said, "Shutup. There is a very good chance you will be working for Devan someday." Sure shut that kid up. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

n0jaa
12-08-2005, 04:54 AM
What's wrong with kids today? One word...

PARENTS.

w4rot
12-08-2005, 05:21 AM
What's wrong with kids?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Nothing.
They're kids.
They ain't on the same frequency...tune toward 'em if possiible.
w4rot

kf6rdn
12-08-2005, 05:30 AM
Quote[/b] (w4rot @ Dec. 07 2005,22:21)]What's wrong with kids?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Nothing.
They're kids.
They ain't on the same frequency...tune toward 'em if possiible.
w4rot
That works for me.

Even then, sometimes they have their NARROW filters on! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

al2i
12-08-2005, 10:10 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0KBH @ Dec. 07 2005,20:43)]Once a kid was making fun of me, and a teacher said, "Shutup. There is a very good chance you will be working for Devan someday." Sure shut that kid up. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Cool. No teacher ever said that about me.


Edit: Working for Devan I mean. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

KA7RRA
12-08-2005, 07:29 PM
Quote[/b] (k7unz @ Dec. 07 2005,13:44)]I'll pay BBC $5/hr, and bring my own beer, just for the chance to WATCH you guys work!!
Cheap enertainment at its best

nx6d
12-08-2005, 07:36 PM
noisy, crazy,
sloppy, lazy,
loafers,

and while were on the subject.
KIDS!

You can talk and talk till your face turns blue...

Kids!

But they still just do what they want to do!

Why can't they be like we were,
Perfect in every way? (or What's wrong with Sammy Kaye?)

Sorry, this just slipped out...

Dave WX7B

N8CPA
12-08-2005, 08:21 PM
I can't remember if it was Aristotle or Socrates, wrote a dialog about how spoiled Helenic teenagers were. Not much has changed in 2500+ years.

KC0KBH
12-08-2005, 09:34 PM
Quote[/b] (al2i @ Dec. 07 2005,21:10)]Quote[/b] (KC0KBH @ Dec. 07 2005,20:43)]Once a kid was making fun of me, and a teacher said, "Shutup. There is a very good chance you will be working for Devan someday." Sure shut that kid up. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Cool. No teacher ever said that about me.


Edit: Working for Devan I mean. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I know. It was pretty cool.

I love all the excuses for homework not done. The most common is: "I was up until 3 finishing it". And I hear that in algebra. I am not very good at algerbra. I think I got a B in that class. And if I finished the assignment during class in 5-10 min, that really says their story is a load of crap. Sports are also a common excuse. It is really pathetic when someone doesn't even start their assignment and the teacher has given 20 to 30 min to work on it, and it is still blank the day it is due. Or easy projects due a week or 2 from the date they are assigned, and people somehow still don't do it. And then the teacher gives an extra day and they STILL don't do it. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif