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KA7RRA
12-07-2005, 02:35 AM
click here (http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/05/12/06/100bus_d1behave001.cfm)

This article appeared in the Everett Herald about a cafe owner posting rules for children on how to behave in his cafe like kids lying on the floor in front of the counter and to use their indoor voice. that sort of thing.
Some parents like it and others are mad at him, saying if you have kids you are not welcome....

When I was growing up my parents took me, and my sister to a restaurant about once a month If I ever had mis-behave like I have seen some of today's kids or was unruly, I would have been spanked on the spot in front of everybody that's what my dad told me would happen When I went into a nice restaurant I was expected to behave like a gentleman.
When I go to a nice restaurant and pay a lot for a meal I except everyone to be civil....
Dave

KC9ECI
12-07-2005, 02:36 AM
Ditto.

N0KLT
12-07-2005, 04:00 AM
That guy would get all my business if I lived close to him. More power to him.

kd5rpo
12-07-2005, 04:10 AM
I agree with the writer and cafe owner.

K9STH
12-07-2005, 04:46 AM
A while back a family with 5 children went into a restaurant for a meal and the children were very well behaved. When the father went to pay the bill there was a 20 percent deduction and, of course, he asked why.

The owner said that was because the children were so well mannered. That happened so rarely that he had to reward the family.

Glen, K9STH

WA5KRP
12-07-2005, 07:12 AM
I never feared taking my kids out into public. They KNEW what was acceptable behavior and they knew what would happen otherwise. Each kid had ONE event where they went out of line and that was all it took. When they were twigs my wife and I enjoyed many compliments about our children. Still do. Yes mam and yessir is de rigueur.

When it comes to kids, they need to learn the ropes before they ever come out of the shoot. If you wait until they are 10 or 12 years old to lay down the rules, your cause is lost. Take a look around.


WA5KRP
Texas

al2n
12-07-2005, 09:11 AM
Back when Godfathers Pizza was still in Alaska, my kids ate free a couple times we went there because they were about the only kids in the place that were not spilling stuff, fighting over the video games or making life hard for the employees.

Feels good when someone notices that your kids know how to behave.

KC9ECI
12-07-2005, 09:54 AM
The only Godfather's pizza I know of now is in Winona, MN. There used to be one in LaCrosse, WI, and the last time I was in that one was 1984. Came home after being gone a few years and it was gone too. Now it's a nifty pizza joint called Pizza Doctors. They used to have an old Ghostbusters style ambulance that they used for deliveries.

ae4fa
12-07-2005, 12:21 PM
When we go to restaurants these days, I alway ask not to be seated anywhere near children. Sad.

N8CPA
12-07-2005, 01:02 PM
Yet further proof that there's too much Ritalin and not enough paddlin'!

[I think I've had 5 occasions to post phrase this week already] :rock:

N0KLT
12-08-2005, 02:08 AM
Quote[/b] (ae4fa @ Dec. 07 2005,07:21)]When we go to restaurants these days, I alway ask not to be seated anywhere near children. Sad.
I got my wife and another family mad at me awhile back when we were in Red Lobster. Granted Red Lobster isn't the fanciest place in town but it is not a joint either. The hostess seated us at a table next to a family group that may have been a couple of families but there were several kids under 8 or less that were screaming and yelling and banging things on the wooden tables. I looked at them and said to the hostess, pardon me but we would rather sit in the non screaming section please. I said this loud enough to be heard over the bedlam at the next table and as a consequence was heard in most of the room. My wife chewed on me after we got seated at the 2nd table and the mother of some of brats at the next table was giving me a look that should have killed me and would have if I had given a royal rats patoot what she or anyone else in her party thought. I will give the hostess credit, she never batted an eye, graciously moved us and kept a reasonably straight face. Though she did seem to want to say something as we sat down and she did make a special effort to come over and ask us if we enjoyed our meal as we were leaving. Although the mother of the noise makers looked insulted and angry, I noticed she made NO effort to control any of the noise at her table. 20 yrs ago when my son was of that age group, he would have no more thought about acting like that in public or at a meal at home then he would have thought about walking down the middle of a busy interstate.

al2n
12-08-2005, 04:52 AM
Kid Stoned Chewable Valium (http://www.funnyclipcentral.com/content/kidstoned.php)

A video clip you guys might enjoy. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

nx6d
12-08-2005, 11:52 AM
Quote[/b] (N0KLT @ Dec. 07 2005,18:08)]Quote[/b] (ae4fa @ Dec. 07 2005,07:21)]When we go to restaurants these days, I alway ask not to be seated anywhere near children. #Sad.
I got my wife and another family mad at me awhile back when we were in Red Lobster. Granted Red Lobster isn't the fanciest place in town but it is not a joint either. The hostess seated us at a table next to a family group that may have been a couple of families but there were several kids under 8 or less that were screaming and yelling and banging things on the wooden tables. I looked at them and said to the hostess, pardon me but we would rather sit in the non screaming section please. I said this loud enough to be heard over the bedlam at the next table and as a consequence was heard in most of the room. My wife chewed on me after we got seated at the 2nd table and the mother of some of brats at the next table was giving me a look that should have killed me and would have if I had given a royal rats patoot what she or anyone else in her party thought. I will give the hostess credit, she never batted an eye, graciously moved us and kept a reasonably straight face. Though she did #seem to want to say something as we sat down and she did make a special effort to come over and ask us if we enjoyed our meal as we were leaving. Although the mother of the noise makers looked insulted and angry, I noticed she made NO effort to control any of the noise at her table. 20 yrs ago when my son was of that age group, he would have no more thought about acting like that in public or at a meal at home then he would have thought about walking down the middle of a busy interstate.
Good story, I have a similiar one. Although I've mellowed somewhat in the past 10 years, I don't like unruly children at all, especially in a restaurant.

We have a good Mexican restaurant nearby with outside seating. My wife and I sat outside as it was a nice day. At a nearby table where a family with two boys aobut 5 and 8. They were loud, but didn't move around too much (at first) so I wasn't too bothered.

Anyway, the kids finished their food. Being the indulged little brats they were, they couldn't possibly sit still for 10 seconds and started running around the patio chasing each other. My wife got that look in her eye, because she knew what was going happen next. I put my hand out to the older kid and said "STOP!". They both went and sat down.

The next interaction was incredible to me. The mother came over and said to me: "Look, if you have a problem with my kids, come to me". I said, "you aren't controlling you kids, they are ruining my lunch with the running around, so I said something". The husband thought about getting physical but they decided to leave instead.

Unbelievable. The parents didn't feel responsible for their kids unless someone complained.

While we're on the subject, some other pet peeves.

1. Little Johnny in the next booth standing on the booth staring at you while you're eating. Cute? NOT!

2. The bozette who feels it necessary to walk the toddler around the restaurant stopping at each table so you can see how "oh so cute" little Betsy is. Sit down, please.

3. Variation on a theme here, but parents who allow the local pizza parlor to be turned into a track meet with the kids running around the restaurant. This seems to be a real problem with Round Table Pizza here on the west coast.

I just...don't...get... this at all. Some people just don't seem to understand that they as parents are in control, not some screaming brat. My theory of parenthood is simple. Step on them hard when they are little and gradually ease off. It's a heckuva lot easier to loosen up than to try to apply pressure to an out of control teenager.

Dave WX7B

k5phw
12-08-2005, 07:01 PM
Ah yes. The exact reason my better half told the company we would not be attending the "Christmas" party.

Uncontrolled snot nosed disease mills. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif



73 and Happy Holidays
Clyde

n3xrg
12-08-2005, 07:37 PM
I was raised by my grandparents in Madison North Carolina. On the way to Greensboro my grandfather was driving a restored 1949 chevrolet. I was playing with the radio. At the top of a hill on rt 220 my grandmother told me to stop playing with the radio. At the bottom of the hill she said Ray(grandfathers name) Pull the car over. She took me out of the car, dropped my pants and i believe beat me to with an inch of my life(or so i thouhght). Till the day she died in 1977, She never had anymore problem with me. She taught me how to grow up and be respectful and everything that parents don't do today. I believe if most kids had my grandmother for a parent there would be more well behaved kids in this world. #N3XRG

W2LYS
12-08-2005, 08:14 PM
Now this is a weird coincidence... I'm reading this thread, and my uncle sends me an email with the picture of the sign mentioned in the article... about unattended kids being given an espresso and a free puppy.

KA4DPO
12-08-2005, 08:24 PM
I guess we were lucky, our kids were almost always good when we went out. When I was a little kid my parents didn't put up with bad behavior in public and my kids were no exception. I really wonder about some of the young parents I see today. Their kids are like little unruly monsters and they seem oblivious to it.

N4AUD
12-08-2005, 08:40 PM
My old man has a saying

"Everybody knows exactly what to do when it's somebody else's kids or somebody else's woman."

w8wlc
12-08-2005, 08:48 PM
Yeah whats with parents these days? Surely they must know letting their kids run wild will lead them to grow disrespectfull and become freeloaders for life.My Kids always knew how far they could go and never crossed the line. Godfathers pizza my wife and I went in there last weekend it wasn't the little ones raising hell it was the teen punks using the F word like it was going to be removed from the english language tomorrow.One lady who was sitting with her 3 small children belittled these punks and they started in on her. I said guess I have to call the police on my cellphone, and finally the punks left.Amazing that management there had not called a long time ago. Oh the pizza well not so great and the service really stunk. This joint will go on my never again list.

N8CPA
12-08-2005, 08:48 PM
Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Dec. 08 2005,16:24)]I really wonder about some of the young parents I see today. #Their kids are like little unruly monsters and they seem oblivious to it.
You just don't understand. #It's halological physics and #hygiene, not to mention cosmetology. Today's parents let their offspring run around like that because it's the environmentally friendly way to maintain the shine on their halos, and to keep the dust off their wings and out of their hair. As they run, the air does the polishing and dusting. #And they are generously allowing you and the other patrons in the restaurant to share the blessing and benefit of the presence of their angels. #

That's why you get the weird angry stares of the parents if you don't show all deference and indulgence to their divine gifts, you evil, evil, creature! # # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

al2i
12-08-2005, 09:16 PM
Quote[/b] (w8wlc @ Dec. 08 2005,13:48)]Godfathers pizza my wife and I went in there last weekend it wasn't the little ones raising hell it was the teen punks using the F word like it was going to be removed from the english language tomorrow.
I have a challenge with unruly adults, some teens, some little kids, but mostly adults, as they are hard to train.

One of my best customers who has been buying the giga-membership for three years, is a Counter-Strike addict, and has his main social life in my shop, has to be "reminded" every 6 months or so that he cannot yell out expletives when little kids kill him -- no matter how good he thinks he is when he dies anyway. He has seen me put a "no-tresspass" on a couple of others with the Wasilla Police, so he apologizes a lot for a couple of weeks after he gets his "talking to".

N0KLT
12-08-2005, 10:39 PM
WX7B

Your list of pet peeves reminded me of mine. While I don't usually have much problem with urchins looking over the booth wall at me since I have a very intimidating glare when I choose to use it (and being ugly as new born sin doesn't hurt either), my pet peeve when seated in a booth is having a child in the next or neighboring booth kicking their heels against the material of the booth, usually wood, setting up a drumming sound that vibrates and echos all over the place. Guess most parents must be deaf or used to it, since you seldom see anyone quiet the child or just plain tell the brat to knock that crap off. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif