IRLP4KIDS Net

[K0IIN]

The Internet Radio Linking Project is now playing host to youth in Amateur Radio. #This with the formation last December 8th of the new "IRLP4KIDS Net."

The cyberspace to radio network was the brainchild of Paul,VE3SY. # It 's purpose is to support young hams and to give them a place to meet and interact with one another.


Soon after he came up with the idea, Paul contacted me via #IRLP and asked if I'd do the net since I had already done a few others locally. #Obviously I said "yes" and then conducted the first one. It had 32 check-ins and was just a "give your callsign and say hello" gathering. #A few weeks later, on the advice of John, NA3J, we added a "discussion topic" to the net. #That topic changes each week.

Since then, there other young hams have stepped forward to act as Net Control. #They are Andrew, VA7AJJ (18); Abe, NB7X (14); Stephen, KG4PT0 (13); Greg, KG6KBE (13) along with yours truly Jason, K0IIN (13). #Thankfully, with each meeting, the number of net participants goes up.

Here is what Abe, NB7X, said about doing net control, "When I started the net, I was really nervous. #But I stayed with the script and it went reasonably smooth. #If I do it more and more, I'll get used to it and it will be easy and fun."

We hope to see you in one of our next nets. We are meeting Saturdays at 0100z every week on IRLP Reflector #2. #In North America the net is on Friday nights at 9http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif0pm Eastern Daylight Time.

(Note: #We may change reflector or begin alternating times with the IRLP International net so that Europeans can check-in to the IRLP4KIDS net if there are enough young hams in the Europe. If you are or know a #European young ham please e-mail me at the address below, so we know #about how many young European hams would check-in.)

Does this interest you? #Do you want to take part? #If you do, please take your Internet web browser to IRLP4KIDS Webpage (http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/irlp4kids) to join our e-group for the most up-to-date info.

One last note. #We are still looking for additional net control stations. Abe, #Andrew, Greg, Stephem and I have been doing well, but we still need more young hams to jump on board. If you are a young ham or know one (he/she has to be licensed) and want to become part of this thrilling IRLP project, contact me by e-mail to K0IIN@arrl.net.

73,
Jason K0IIN

[AB0TJ]

That would be great if my local ham club wasn't so tight-fisted with it's money so we could buy one of iRlp's severely overpriced interface boards.

73,
Alex

[K0IIN]

Correction:
9 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif 0 should be 9pm (: followed by 0 is the way to make a http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif )
73,
Jason K0IIN

[KG4PYX]

KUDOS to you guys. Stephen, KG4PTO is a member of the Atlanta Radio Club, whose repeater he uses to connect to IRLP. Stephen has been using it on the club's 440 machine, and has been granted permission to move it to our 2m machine. The thing I love about amateur radio is the fact that we are all equal according to our ticket, regardless of age.

73 and keep up the good work.

Chris, KG4PYX

This is a good way to get young hams involved in the hobby and to grow. #You hams are doing a great job. #You are embracing a new technology, which is what ham radio used to be all about. #Keep up the good work.

73

[W7LGK]

No matter how hard you try to snow job the ham community....IRLP is NOT ham radio. You are simply using the internet period. It is just another way that the lazy people who do not want to do what is right in taking the upgrade tests to play act at ham radio.

73's.........Lonny - W7LGK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[k9amz]

W7LGK: Take a chill pill - ulcers acting up again? It's curmudgeons like you that make ham radio what it is... dying.
88 de Al, K9AMZ.

[va3ay]

I know VE3SY is very active in getting IRLP going along with many others. And many more coming! But, I think VE7LTD got the whole shebang running.
I am looking forward to seeing many more Nodes.
I see 8P6 today.

[va3ay]

I appreciate what all the IRLP people do in getting this Mode working. I cannot run HF here again so far and I find I am lucky enough to keep in contact with many of my friends thanks to IRLP and Terry, VA3LU locally.
regards es 73/
Bill

[KB1GHC]

Hampden County Radio Assn. http://www.hcra.org is starting a node as i type this message, they are in the testing stages, and HCRA sponsors Venture Crew 510 (DX in roman numerals) http://www.qsl.net/crewdx/ so it will be placed to good use

73' Steve, KB1GHC

[KD7OVP]

Hi All!

I have started an e-group and I thought this would be a great place to introduce it to the whole world! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I am 16, and I love every minute of Amateur Radio that I get. I hope this group will turn out to be just like what your doing, but maybe also on the international level. The website address of my group is: Youthfulhams (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/youthfulhams)
(Please note that this group is fully open to all ages) But with special emphases on youth.

Sincerely,
KD7OVP, CLEAR!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W7LGK @ May 06 2002,09:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No matter how hard you try to snow job the ham community....IRLP is NOT ham radio. #You are simply using the internet period. # It is just another way that the lazy people who do not want to do what is right in taking the upgrade tests to play act at ham radio.

73's.........Lonny - W7LGK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Let's see, radio has to do with communications. Ham Radio has always been about experimentation with various modes of cummunication. I see the IRLP as another "mode" of communicating. Or you could say that the Internet is the biggest damn repeater you ever saw.

How nice it is to turn on my HT and listen to stations from around the World. Australia, the UK, the South Pole, and the list grows on.

The IRLP is a way to get new Hams of any age turned on to the Hobby. I am 100% for it.

I guess I am one of those "lazy" people. There is no requirement and never has been for a Ham to constantly have to upgrade. It is a choice limited only by your desires, needs and pocketbook. If I choose to stay a Tech and not upgrade, that makes me no less of a person than any other Ham no matter which level you are at. And my reasons for upgrading or not are my business.

Dave
KG4FGZ

[Kg6kbe]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W7LGK @ May 06 2002,09:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No matter how hard you try to snow job the ham community....IRLP is NOT ham radio. #You are simply using the internet period. # It is just another way that the lazy people who do not want to do what is right in taking the upgrade tests to play act at ham radio.

73's.........Lonny - W7LGK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Now why would you say that? I aggree with K9AMZ- you are just making people try to avoid ham radio altogether when you do that. I sure wouldnt have gotten my ticket at all if I talked to you first, because I would have thought "if people get onto me like this if I do not upgrade to extra whithin a 2 and a half hour period, i just wont bother. Well, nice talking to you and hope to catch you on IRLP node 346 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

73,
Greg
KG6KBE
IRLP fan and busy student who doesn't have the time to upgrade until summer.

P.S. Dont forget your chill pill.

[n7xei]

This is too cool! Finally a way to get the youth excited about HAM radio.

I just got my IRLP node (#761) up and running last Sunday night with the help of a high school kid that has had his ticket less than a year. Not only is he having a blast, but he feels he is contributing something useful and worthwhile to the hobby. #

At the end of the month, we have already scheduled a demonstration to 5th and 6th graders. I can hardly wait!

My only question to stick in the mud Lonnie is: have you elmered a high school kid in the last year? I have! And proud of it. Working on a couple more.

73's everyone else. Drop in soon...
Sheldon, N7XEI

[k9amz]

You're most welcome, N8PCA. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[NB7X]

You guys are crazy! #Here we have a bunch of kids (including myself, I'm quoted in the article http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif) getting started in amateur radio of some kind and you scoff at it. #I would think you would want to set an example for us. #Even though I can operate anywhere pretty much with this darn Extra, I have used IRLP on some occasions. #OK its not my favorite way to operate, but more power to those who like it. #Also, our tower got knocked down in a storm so I can't really even operate anymore. #W7LGK and N8PCA, you should be ashamed. #All the so-called "purists", as you say, always talk about how kids don't understand radio and whatnot. #Now you have some kids that actually do and probably had more motivation than you when you grew up and you say that they are bogus because they aren't Extras and IRLP is fake even though you've probably never even tried it. #I bet if you were in the position of some of these kids you'd want to be DXing no matter how you do it. #Its not always about tradition. #Break the mold. #We are the future. #You cannot defeat us #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Fondly,

Abe Rubenstein NB7X

[Kg6kbe]

Hello all, I would like to thank NB7X for his comment. I am a 13 year old technician, although I will have extra by the end of the summer. My dad has hardly any interest in ham radio, and so does not have an HF rig.
(bummer)
If you want to frown on my IRLP usage so much, then supply me with an HF rig and I would be happy to get on the air that way. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[n0vld]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W7LGK @ May 06 2002,09:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No matter how hard you try to snow job the ham community....IRLP is NOT ham radio. #You are simply using the internet period. # It is just another way that the lazy people who do not want to do what is right in taking the upgrade tests to play act at ham radio.

73's.........Lonny - W7LGK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
So did you feel that way when VHF/UHF was a new technology years ago? Sure IRLP is Ham Radio. It's just a different type. Just because you're closed minded and have a bad attitude, do you have to pull everyone else down to your level? It takes a lot of work to keep the IRLP network going, and a lot of time. A lot of people have been involved and if you think that IRLP isn't technical, or growing the radio art, then you're severely mistaken, and you obviously have no clue about its technical merits.

Jack - WA0ERX
owner IRLP ref2, ref921
admin node 427

[n6yg]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W7LGK @ May 06 2002,09:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No matter how hard you try to snow job the ham community....IRLP is NOT ham radio. #You are simply using the internet period. # It is just another way that the lazy people who do not want to do what is right in taking the upgrade tests to play act at ham radio.

73's.........Lonny - W7LGK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
What a great topic. #I guess I’ll throw my 2¢ worth in.

I played around with IRLP on a fellow hams repeater for about a week. It was interesting for a while. Actually in about a week the novelty wore off and the absolute lack of challenge in operating IRLP. Helped relegated it to one of those things I’ve tried but became bored with.

#I was an active SWL for many years before I received my amateur radio license. #I can still say when I manage to receive a DX Broadcast From a country such as Greece the thrill and the feeling of accomplishment was and still is quite satisfying. Ham radio is not so much about communication as it is about overcoming challenges. Challenges such as learning Morse code and studying to upgrade your license are just the beginning of the many challenges in this fantastic hobby. #These are the challenges that gave Ham radio Operators great pride in there accomplishments and at one time helped bind Ham radio operators together. It’s a shame that today’s society has become so entrenched in instant gratification. #That people are no longer willing to take a challenge head on and conquer it. #It seems like most people today would rather Complain about how unfair and unnecessary a challenge is and push it to the Point where the level of complexity in that challenge Is reduced to a point where one can no longer really call it a challenge. Where is the pride in that ?? # Shezzz my 8 year old learned 5wpm Code in less then 4 week’s

When I sold my home and moved into a small second story apartment. I was once again faced with a challenge. Working HF from a second story apartment with no balcony and antenna restrictions to boot now this was a tough one. I can tell you the thrill of making my first DX contact made my heart race like I was a kid again. And to think I did it on 50 watts with nothing more then a few hundred feet of very thin wire strung out #a window to a pole across the parking lot. I took the challenge head on and conquered it. That is what Ham radio is all about. If all you want to do is communicate then just buy a Cell phone.

Back to IRLP
I can see that IRLP is a fantastic tool. It even has some fantastic commercial applications
For some it might be there only opportunity to make contacts with stations around the world. But let’s put it into perspective. For those of you that think IRLP is a “MODE” #all I can say is you better start reading your study manuals again. Because I can’t figure out how you past your licensing test. Is talking through a local 2m repeater a mode, Is using the autopatch connected to the 2m repeater a mode, how about talking on a wide linked repeater system to another mobile a 100 miles away is that a mode. No none of these are modes the only mode you are using is 2m FM. So stop comparing it to SSB, CW and AM >> If you bothered to study and upgraded you just might have known that..

Then there are those people I hear asking for QSL cards from a #“DX station” on an IRLP link. Shezzzzzzzzzzz Maybe I can get my brother to send me a QSL card from Chicago next time we talk Cell phone to Cell phone. Hey maybe we will have a worked all states on Cell phone... Hmm what band was that again???


I do agree and stand behind the individuals that say IRLP and I-link are ham radio. As I see it Utilizing Software and Hardware to effect a communications link utilizing a transceiver is very much HAM RADIO !!! Just as much as that Linked repeater system using leased lines is.

For personal use I prefer I-link #it appears to fall more within the context of Ham radio then IRLP does. IRLP reminds me of a commercial application that is to tightly control by the developers and too limited for the multitude of Hams to use. With IRLP you are once again relegated to someone else’s control. #You have to ask the repeater owner permission to us there system and even then its still under there CONTROL... #There is that nasty word again CONTROL, #some #OWNERS even charge to use there IRLP node #. I-link on the other hand is very simple and versatile. As an example within 4 hours of downloading the schematics for the I-link control board I had driven to my local Electronics store purchased about $25 in parts soldered it all together and was sitting at the swimming pool with #a Margarita in hand talking to a station in London #through MY ! VX-5 #received on MY ! #FT-847 connected to I-link through A control board I built >>>> #NOW that’s Ham radio.... # #

Guess my 2 cents worth turned into $10 worth # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #

73’s

[n6yg]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (n0vld @ May 12 2002,14:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W7LGK @ May 06 2002,09:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No matter how hard you try to snow job the ham community....IRLP is NOT ham radio. #You are simply using the internet period. # It is just another way that the lazy people who do not want to do what is right in taking the upgrade tests to play act at ham radio.

73's.........Lonny - W7LGK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
So did you feel that way when VHF/UHF was a new technology years ago? #Sure IRLP is Ham Radio. #It's just a different type. #Just because you're closed minded and have a bad attitude, do you have to pull everyone else down to your level? #It takes a lot of work to keep the IRLP network going, and a lot of time. #A lot of people have been involved and if you think that IRLP isn't technical, or growing the radio art, then you're severely mistaken, and you obviously have no clue about its technical merits. #

Jack - WA0ERX
owner IRLP ref2, ref921
admin node 427[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Here is that Control thing again
# #Jack - WA0ERX
>>owner IRLP ref2, ref921
>>admin node 427 # # #
Thank God no one owns and HF amateur Frequency. Even though some have tried

What in the world are you talking about #VHF/UHF ? how in the world does that compare to IRLP as a new technology. #VHF/UHF are bands/ Frequencies. Coincidentally frequencies that IRLP utilizes in the FM mode. #Other modes that you find on VHF/UHF can be SSB,CW,AM,FM hmm I wonder if 1200 baud AFSK is considered a mode <G>
Of course it is ! it’s a Digital mode. So what Mode does that make IRLP ?

People would take IRLP more seriously if people representing it at least used the correct terminology

To top it off IRLP is not even a new technology
It’s a borrowed concept based on freeware

73’s

[w3sy]

That guy Paul has a GREAT callsign!

de W3SY

[wa4dou]

IRLP is just cordless phone with greater range. Its imitation ham radio for imitation hams.