.... . .-.. .-.. ---

[KE7DZZ]

.... . .-.. .-.. --- --..-- / - .... . / ..-. .. .-. ... - / .--. . .-. ... --- -. / - --- / .-. . ... .--. --- -. -.. / - --- / - .... .. ... / .--. --- ... - / .-- .. -. ... / .- / .--. .-. .. --.. . .-.-.-





--... ...-- / -.. . / -.- . --... -.. --.. --..

[N8CPA]

What kind of prize ..--..

[KE7DZZ]

-.-- --- ..- / .-- .. -. / -- -.-- / ..- -. -.. -.-- .. -. --. / .- -.. -- .. .-. .- - .. --- -. --..-- / .- -. -.. / - .... . / ... .- - .. ... ..-. .- -.-. - .. --- -. / --- ..-. / -.- -. --- .-- .. -. --. / - .... .- - / -.-- --- ..- / .--. ..- ... .... . -.. / .- / -. --- -....- -.-. --- -.. . / - . -.-. .... -. .. -.-. .. .- -. / - .... .- - / -- ..- -.-. .... / ..-. ..- .-. - .... . .-. / .- .-.. --- -. --. / .. -. / .... .. ... / --.- ..- . ... - / - --- / .-.. . .- .-. -. / -.-. .-- .-.-.- / - .... .- -. -.- / -.-- --- ..- / ...- . .-. -.-- / -- ..- -.-. .... / .- -. -.. / .... --- .--. . / - --- / .-- --- .-. -.- / -.-- --- ..- / --- -. / -.-. .-- / ... --- -- . -.. .- -.-- / ... --- --- -. .-.-.- / --... ...-- / -.. . / -.- . --... -.. --.. --..

[WA5KRP]

OK. #But I got crossed-eyed trying to read that. #

http://www.petsadrift.com/grfx/crosseyed.jpg



WA5KRP
Texas

[k5xyl]

That prize is the best one I know of! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73, K5XYL

[KF0RT]

Nice fist. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73, Rob

[KC9ECI]

You think Glen or the other mods take the time to decipher that or could I post something really nasty?

[w4rot]

Well I got to the part about winning und....
I stopped...I don't see that well...
I was afraid it was going to be underwear.
Eyestrain,NC
w4rot

ps I will come back later for updates with my spectacles on.

[nz3m]

Morse code was never meant to be in writing. Joe Shmo could decode that as fast as I could.

dadadit dit dah didit dah dididadadidit

Dave

[ve2nsm]

What's that... ASCII art?

[WY0COP]

I am getting older next month....please make the font larger.....or should I turn up my volume!!?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KE7DZZ]

... .... .- .-.. .-.. / .. / ... . -. -.. / ... .-.. --- .-- . .-. ..--.. -.-. .... .- -. --. . / - --- -. . ..--.. / --- ...- . .-.

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 23 2005,22:26)]... .... .- .-.. .-.. / #.. / #... . -. -.. / #... .-.. --- .-- . .-. ..--.. -.-. .... .- -. --. . / #- --- -. . ..--.. / #--- ...- . .-.
The novelty has worn off. If there ever was any.



WA5KRP
Texas

[KE7DZZ]

Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ Oct. 23 2005,20:33)]Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 23 2005,22:26)]... .... .- .-.. .-.. / #.. / #... . -. -.. / #... .-.. --- .-- . .-. ..--.. -.-. .... .- -. --. . / #- --- -. . ..--.. / #--- ...- . .-.
The novelty has worn off. #If there ever was any.



WA5KRP
Texas
I am doing this as a helper app to assist me in learning CW, if you find it tiresome then don't read it.

[N1MLF]

-. --- - .... .. -. --./ .-.. .. -.- ./ .-/ -.-. .--/ - .... .-. . .- -../ - ---/ -.- . . .--./ - .... .../ -. -.-. -/ ..-. --- .-.. -.- .../ .-- --- -. -.. . .-. .. -. --. .-.-.-

-.. . .--- .--

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[w8cbc]

-.-- . .- .... --..-- / -... ..- - / .-- .... . .-. . / .- .-. . / .- .-.. .-.. / - .... . / ..-. .. ... .... ..--..

-.- -.. ---.. -... ... .-. -..-. ...- . ...--

--- .... --..-- / -. . ...- . .-. -- .. -. -.. --..-- / .. / .- -- / .... --- -- . / -. --- .-- / .- -. -.. / -.. --- -. - / .... .- ...- . / - --- / -.. --- / - .... .- - / -..-. / - .... .. -. --. / .- -. -.-- -- --- .-. . .-.-.-

[n0ov]

Well if your going to post something like this, at least you could do is add an audio link. After all, listening to CW is a lot easier than trying to read it -- especially with my eye sight http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KC9EOG]

CW is a series of long and short beeps that one listens to. It is not helpful to try and learn it as a substitute for letters of the alphabet.
-.. is not d, -.-. is not c. --... ...-- http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[W5HTW]

Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 23 2005,20:37)]Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ Oct. 23 2005,20:33)]Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 23 2005,22:26)]... .... .- .-.. .-.. / .. / ... . -. -.. / ... .-.. --- .-- . .-. ..--.. -.-. .... .- -. --. . / - --- -. . ..--.. / --- ...- . .-.
The novelty has worn off. If there ever was any.



WA5KRP
Texas
I am doing this as a helper app to assist me in learning CW, if you find it tiresome then don't read it.
Then you are totally wasting your time. This method will not teach you anything. In fact, if you try to learn Morse the way it sounds on the air, this introduces a serious mind-muddling translation step. Back up and start over, with audio, dits and dahs. All this will teach you is "there is no free lunch." You can do this for a year, daily, and at the end of the year, you won't know what Morse code sounds like.

Ed

[AG3Y]

EOG and HTW Well put! I would add that thinking of Morse in terms of " ... " and " --- " is really going to be anti-productive for you. It will really slow you down when you go from 5 WPM to something faster.

It's cute for the novelty, but not a good learning method!

73, Jim

[WA2ZDY]

SFB Morse's original telegraph used an inker - it was a pen attached to a receiving arm and when the code was sent over the wire, the dots and dashes were reproduced on a strip of paper. The operator's job was then to transcribe the visible dots and dashes on the tape.

It wasn't long before the better operators realised that hearing the sound of the arm moving was much easier and faster. Better indeed.

After 31 years of being a CW op, I'm not even going to try to figure out what all the dots and dashes above translate to. Too much trouble and I never learned the code that way anyway.

[AG3Y]

I can't remember if it was the original, or a mockup, but I have seen the Morse sounder at the Smithsonian. #It was constructed from a window-frame ! #( probably the original, #I can't imagine that such a famous museum as the Smithsonian would have a mockup! )

73, Jim

[n0ov]

Quote[/b] (W5HTW @ Oct. 23 2005,09:36)]Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 23 2005,20:37)]Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ Oct. 23 2005,20:33)]Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 23 2005,22:26)]... .... .- .-.. .-.. / #.. / #... . -. -.. / #... .-.. --- .-- . .-. ..--.. -.-. .... .- -. --. . / #- --- -. . ..--.. / #--- ...- . .-.
The novelty has worn off. #If there ever was any.



WA5KRP
Texas
I am doing this as a helper app to assist me in learning CW, if you find it tiresome then don't read it.
Then you are totally wasting your time. #This method will not teach you anything. In fact, if you try to learn Morse the way it sounds on the air, this introduces a serious mind-muddling translation step. # Back up and start over, with audio, dits and dahs. #All this will teach you is "there is no free lunch." #You can do this for a year, daily, and at the end of the year, you won't know what Morse code sounds like.

Ed
Thank you!

Seriously, he's right. I learned CW this way and had to go back and relearn everything when I wanted to actually use it. And let me tell you, it is a lot tougher the 2nd time around because you have to unlearn all the bad habbits.

You get an A for effort though.............

[ab8ma]

Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 24 2005,03:37)]Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ Oct. 23 2005,20:33)]Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 23 2005,22:26)]... .... .- .-.. .-.. / #.. / #... . -. -.. / #... .-.. --- .-- . .-. ..--.. -.-. .... .- -. --. . / #- --- -. . ..--.. / #--- ...- . .-.
The novelty has worn off. #If there ever was any.



WA5KRP
Texas
I am doing this as a helper app to assist me in learning CW, if you find it tiresome then don't read it.
You are right. We don't have to read it. But you are making a mistake using this as a technique to learn CW. That is something we do have to tell you.

Thanks for the fun, but it is a really bad idea for anybody reading this thread and thinking that they are making progress learning the code.

[kc0vrs]

.. -.. --- -. - --. . - .. -

[kc0vrs]

that is "I dont get it"

[w8znx]

gee
why are these chicken scratchings
always posted by people
who do not know morse code

if you wish to communicate via morse code

may I sugest, using a radio and telegraph key

mac dit dit

[ai4ep]

I just aint got any idea ( and some of the others dont either ) that on earth is going on in this thread...nothing vulgar or illegal...but reading supposedly morse code across a page is a tad bit different than HEARING the code through a speaker.

But then, YOU already knew that, didnt ya ?

hee hee hee :0

AI4EP http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[NY7Q]

CW WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE WRITTEN. IT IS TO BE LISTENED TO, AND DECIPHERED INTO ENGLISH OR WHATEVER LANGUAGE USING.
YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT CW...

[G0GQK]

Its much better on PSK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------- 73 Mel http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[G0GQK]

Perhaps I should have chosen ================================================== =======================================for PSK 73, Mel http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[af2cw]

Now this is cw. (http://www.kg2hg.com/this_is_cw.wav)

[ky5u]

Chicken scratch on a page? ROFLMAO!!! Exactly!

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (kg2hg @ Oct. 25 2005,15:34)]Now this is cw. (http://www.kg2hg.com/this_is_cw.wav)
Ur RST 599K here... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73, Rob

[af2cw]

tnx om ur 599, nice fist hpe cuagn http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (kg2hg @ Oct. 25 2005,16:34)]Now this is cw. (http://www.kg2hg.com/this_is_cw.wav)
That's a brass pounder!



WA5KRP
Texas

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ Oct. 25 2005,15:16)]Quote[/b] (kg2hg @ Oct. 25 2005,16:34)]Now this is cw. (http://www.kg2hg.com/this_is_cw.wav)
That's a brass pounder!



WA5KRP
Texas
If I sent Morse Code with a 25 cent piece while eating chedder, would that make me a "Quarter Pounder with Cheese?"

[ve2nsm]

Quote[/b] (kg2hg @ Oct. 25 2005,17:34)]Now this is cw. (http://www.kg2hg.com/this_is_cw.wav)
Did you check if the thread was busy before tuning? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

=============edit===========

Stupid me, by seeing the ____ I thought you meant CW/continuous wave/carrier. I did not realize it was a link, that's why I answer the way I did.

Now after listening to the file, I hear some bad clicking in the manipulation... you have happy neighbours? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Maybe it's only the .wav recording though.

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Oct. 25 2005,17:07)]Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ Oct. 25 2005,15:16)]Quote[/b] (kg2hg @ Oct. 25 2005,16:34)]Now this is cw. (http://www.kg2hg.com/this_is_cw.wav)
That's a brass pounder!



WA5KRP
Texas
If I sent Morse Code with a 25 cent piece while eating chedder, would that make me a "Quarter Pounder with Cheese?"
Now THAT's funny!

73, Rob

[KE7DZZ]

i use a program that converts text to Morse as a .wav file, it also generates a "morse text" file . I thought it would interesting to start a thread using that "morse text". However, just as in many other threads, this turned into negative criticism. I am just a new ham with some computer skills trying to merge my knowledge in one field into a possible advantage in another.

[w5alt]

Here's an online CW generator I cobbled together using pure PHP. Online CW Generator (http://www.comportco.com/~w5alt/cw/cwindex.php?pg=2)

Generating signals with PHP code only is a pretty good challenge, but as you can hear, it is possible.

73,
Walt, W5ALT

[ve2nsm]

Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 25 2005,20:24)]i use a program that converts text to Morse as a .wav file, it also generates a "morse text" file . I thought it would interesting to start a thread using that "morse text". However, just as in many other threads, this turned into negative criticism. I am just a new ham with some computer skills trying to merge my knowledge in one field into a possible advantage in another.
Don't see it as negative criticism. Believe me it's not, not in that case.
I can tell you that negative criticism towards new ideas is often found on that board, but this time they are right. Try to learn morse code that way is like trying to learn english from somebody with a strong spanish accent. You will learn something, but once you're in the real world you'll realize you have to start all over again. You no watamee mah flenn? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[W5HTW]

Actually the criticizm was very constructive, advising you to not waste your time with a method that is a bit like learning to row a boat by riding a bicycle. With the exception of the Boy Scouts who used to teach flashlight code, Morse is not a visual medium. Making it into one is going West to get South. So take it as constructive, positive, in the light of offering help. Your dinner will digest better!.

There have, over the months, been a lot of postings of these hen scratchings, and not all by those who do not know code. I have yet to attempt to decipher even one of them. Kinda like the Rooty-Tooty Magic Lone Ranger Buck Rogers Rings. Didn't help us learn a darned thing.

So start your code learning with audio. Or restart it, whichever the case may be. You'll learn something, and you'll learn it much faster.

Good luck!

Ed

[k6pme]

Quote[/b] (ve2nsm @ Oct. 25 2005,17:49)]Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 25 2005,20:24)]i use a program that converts text to Morse as a .wav file, it also generates a "morse text" file . I thought it would interesting to start a thread using that "morse text". However, just as in many other threads, this turned into negative criticism. I am just a new ham with some computer skills trying to merge my knowledge in one field into a possible advantage in another.
Don't see it as negative criticism. Believe me it's not, not in that case.
I can tell you that negative criticism towards new ideas is often found on that board, but this time they are right. Try to learn morse code that way is like trying to learn english from somebody with a strong spanish accent. You will learn something, but once you're in the real world you'll realize you have to start all over again. You no watamee mah flenn? #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I have to agree. When I first started to learn code I did the same thing thinking it would be fun and a learning tool.

VERY BIG MISTAKE.

As was posted on page one, code is meant to heard, not read. Forget using this method. Your going to handicap yourself badly. I know, I did it.

[KE7DZZ]

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WAV (or WAVE), short for WAVE form audio format, is a Microsoft and IBM audio file format standard for storing audio on PCs. It is a variant of the RIFF bitstream format method for storing data in "chunks", and thus also close to the IFF and the AIFF format used on Macintosh computers. It takes into account some peculiarities of the Intel CPU such as little-endian byte order. The RIFF format acts as a "wrapper" for various audio compression codecs. It is the main format used on Windows systems for raw audio.

Though a WAV file can hold audio compressed with any codec, by far the most common format is pulse-code modulation audio data. Since PCM uses an uncompressed, lossless storage method which keeps all the samples of an audio track, professional users or audio experts may use the WAV format for maximum audio quality. WAV audio can also be edited and manipulated with relative ease using software.

WAV files can be used as an intermediary storage type for ripping songs from cassette tapes. People using Windows's Sound Recorder can redirect the output from their old Walkman-type cassette players's ear phone jacks to the PC audio input jacks via an audio cable. Although Sound Recorder can only record for 60 seconds, there are easy ways to lengthen the file for long songs or even the entire tape (record something, choose decrease speed from the effects menu, repeat until file is sufficiently long, and then record over it from the beginning). The WAV file is then converted via freeware packages to other, more compact formats.

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The WAV format is limited to files that are less than 2 GiB in size, due to the way its 32-bit file size header is read by most programs. Although this is equivalent to more than 3 hours of CD-quality audio (44.1 kHz, 16-bit stereo), it is sometimes necessary to go over this limit. The W64 format was created for use in Sound Forge. This format can be converted using the LGPL libsndfile library.

Contrary to the popular misconception, audio CDs do not use WAV as their storage format. The commonality is that both audio CDs and WAV files have the audio data encoded in PCM, but WAV is a data file format for computer use; if you rip an audio CD to WAV files and burn them onto a CD-R as a data disc (ISO) and insert it into a player that can handle only audio CDs, the CD will not play.

[ve2nsm]

huh... what's your point?

[WA5KRP]

More horse-snort.



WA5KRP
Texas

[KE7DZZ]

OK, for the slow children at play, the software I am using generates an audio file that i can LISTEN to. The "morse text" is merely a by-product that I thought might be fun to use here, and it was fun initially until some of you old curmudgeons piped in and decided to turn this thread in to another tirade against things you don't understand.

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (KE7DZZ @ Oct. 25 2005,23:07)]OK, for the slow children at play, the software I am using generates an audio file that i can LISTEN to. The "morse text" is merely a by-product that I thought might be fun to use here, and it was fun initially until some of you old curmudgeons piped in and decided to turn this thread in to another tirade against things you don't understand.
MORE horse-snort. http://deephousepage.com/smilies/jo1.gif





WA5KRP
Texas

[K7KBN]

The Boy Scouts are definitely not the ONLY ones who use Morse code in a visual way. Navy Signalmen and now Quartermasters have used it for decades.

As a Navy Radioman, I found that I could comfortably copy flashing light as well as any of the Signalmen on my ship. For me, as I see the flashes, I can "hear" an audio signal in step with them, generated by my onboard computer.

[ai4ep]

oh well, just consider the source.

Nothing new.

hee hee hee

[KC0W]

Quote[/b] (k7kbn @ Oct. 26 2005,20:24)]As a Navy Radioman, I found that I could comfortably copy flashing light as well as any of the Signalmen on my ship. #
I have been trying to purchase a navy "CW signaling lamp" for the past three years or so. I must not be the only one........In the 4-5 times that I have seen them on eBay, the auction goes to ridicules levels for the lamps.

If your neighbors don't think your crazy enough as it is, how about mounting one of these lamps on your back yard deck. Nothing like a little midnight CW practice to light up the neighborhood!!!


Tom kcØw

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (kc0w @ Oct. 26 2005,19:58)]If your neighbors don't think your crazy enough as it is, how about mounting one of these lamps on your back yard deck. Nothing like a little midnight CW practice to light up the neighborhood!!!
I think we're legal for "light." Visions of Tim Allen and some sort of 100KW Binford product.

"Yeah, I can work the Space Shuttle from here."

I wonder how this equates to PEP.

73, Rob

[KC0W]

Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ Oct. 27 2005,02:09)]I think we're legal for "light." #Visions of Tim Allen and some sort of 100KW Binford product.

"Yeah, I can work the Space Shuttle from here."
You just might be onto something here. Here is a way that one could LEGALLY DX without any amateur license needed.


Tom kcØw

[KE7DZZ]

[QUOTE]I want to speak directly to the newer members of the amateur community. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. I frequent some of the forums and I read all the code/no code and old fart/newbie crap. I strongly urge you to do what I do - treat it like the garbage it is. As with any segment of society, there is a percentage of the amateur population that can never say anything positive.[QUOTE] # # #

More horse snort?

[W5HTW]

Yup. Sure is.

[k6pme]

I believe what he said was MORE horse snort. The word "more" was capitalized for emphasis. That is kind of the internet way to drive home a point.

Oops, I see he only emphasized the second post. Apparently that was the one he was the most concerned about.

[W5HTW]

For those who sincerely wish to learn to communicate effectively with a series of periods and hyphens on paper, I would think this would be a great way to go, though a larger font would be neat. Quite a few of us did this very thing back in our childhoods, though eventually new technology in the form of the Buzz Sawyer Secret Decoder Ring arrived in the cereal boxes (or maybe we had to send in a box top or two for them?) and we went to that more efficient method. Just sort of depends on what the goal is. As to the WAV files, I don't have any consisting of hyphens and periods, but I suppose I could shoot a video of some on paper, with me reading them aloud.

OK, it's all in fun. In my original more serious opinion, it teaches nothing about Morse code, except perhaps that such a thing exists. Beyond that, it's just good natured chiding, with a reminder to newcomers, this is NOT the way to even consider learning Morse code.

Buena suerte

(I speek our lingo)

Ed