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kd7msc
10-12-2005, 11:59 PM
Does she like radio?
is she an amateur radio operator?
what is her call?
ok all joking aside:
just ask her!
"hey ,I was just wondering if I could take you to lunch or something?"
see how easy that was?
try it .
you might be surprised! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
KE7ENC
10-13-2005, 12:05 AM
How about....
"Would you like to go out to lunch with me?"
KA8NCR
10-13-2005, 12:06 AM
You could try the informal method:
"Say, I'm dying of hunger. I'm going over to <insert lunch joint>, wanna go? My treat."
You could try the direct approach:
"Wanna go to lunch?"
You could try the third grade approach:
Send her a note, "Will you go to lunch with me?"
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
(check one)
You could try the Austin Powers approach"
"Hey baby, I like you and I'd really like to buy you a car. But I can't so will lunch do instead?"
You could try the brutally honest method:
"I'm really really nervous, and I'd like to take you out. But I'm afraid that I'd pass out and leave you stranded. How about we take it slow and start with lunch?"
You could try the caveman method:
Throw her over your shoulder and take her to McDonald's (not recommended, cavemen still exist and they're sensitive to stereotyping)
You could try the ham radio method:
Ask her out, in morse code with a code practice oscillator
(not recommended either)
Personally, I opt for just asking "wanna go to lunch?" Shows maturity, which is more than I can say for myself with all this silliness.
KA8NCR
10-13-2005, 12:13 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 12 2005,17:09)]FYI: she does have her ham ticket.
You're doomed.
Okay, how about an NTS formatted radiogram?
ARL SIXTY FIVE McDonalds noon.
P.S. Avoid ARL FIFTY NINE
KA8NCR
10-13-2005, 12:14 AM
Or email her a link to the thread.
KA8NCR
10-13-2005, 12:20 AM
Ask her to go to a ham radio function with you. It's a date without having the ask for a date.
Put that one under the "surreptitious method".
Quote[/b] (ka8ncr @ Oct. 12 2005,17:14)]Or email her a link to the thread.
best reply I have seen in this thread yet...
i vote send her a link to this thread.
(although I am kinda fond of the caveman approach)
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KC0NBW
10-13-2005, 12:21 AM
what's her call ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
KE7ENC
10-13-2005, 12:26 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 12 2005,17:23)]Quote[/b] (ki4bnc @ Oct. 12 2005,17:21)]Quote[/b] (ka8ncr @ Oct. 12 2005,17:14)]Or email her a link to the thread.
best reply I have seen in this thread yet...
i vote send her a link to this thread.
(although I am kinda fond of the caveman approach)
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I beg of you not to do that! I will be humiliated for the rest of my life.
Quote[/b] ]I will be humiliated for the rest of my life. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
You could humilate yourself first and avoid the embarrasment later. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
k4kyv
10-13-2005, 12:35 AM
Here's an idea for a GREAT date. Take her to the local Hooters. Offer her a coke, but order yourself a pitcher or two of beer. For food, order something greasy like hot wings or sloppy joe. Gulp down so much beer that you get sick, then puke all over her. Then when you get ready to leave (or they ask you to leave) tell her you forgot your wallet, and that she'll have to pay.
KC0NBW
10-13-2005, 12:38 AM
Quote[/b] (KE7ENC @ Oct. 12 2005,17:26)]Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 12 2005,17:23)]Quote[/b] (ki4bnc @ Oct. 12 2005,17:21)]Quote[/b] (ka8ncr @ Oct. 12 2005,17:14)]Or email her a link to the thread.
best reply I have seen in this thread yet...
i vote send her a link to this thread.
(although I am kinda fond of the caveman approach)
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
I beg of you not to do that! I will be humiliated for the rest of my life.
Quote[/b] ]I will be humiliated for the rest of my life. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
You could humilate yourself first and avoid the embarrasment later. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
men have been humiliated by women from the beginning of time, nothing new at all ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
just ask her, the worst she can do is say no.
w8cbc
10-13-2005, 12:39 AM
Two methods I have tried, which I do not recommend...
1 - Leer evilly and ask, "Wanna share my diseeeeeease?"
2 - Announce, "I'll give ya fifty thousand watts, Baby! (pause) Seventy-four hundred actually, but I have a tall tower."
The second one got laughter though. (I was on-air in those days, a class B FM, 7400W@1250 ft.)
Honestly, casual works best. "Ya hungry? Les' go get sumthin'."
kd7msc
10-13-2005, 12:40 AM
Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Oct. 12 2005,17:35)]Here's an idea for a GREAT date. Take her to the local Hooters. #Offer her a coke, but order yourself a pitcher or two of beer. #For food, order something greasy like hot wings or sloppy joe. Gulp down so much beer that you get sick, then puke all over her. #Then when you get ready to leave (or they ask you to leave) tell her you forgot your wallet, and that she'll have to pay.
He is only 17. He will have time for that later. I met my wife when I was 16. I wish him luck. It is hard to find a mate that has the same interests.
N0KLT
10-13-2005, 12:53 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 12 2005,19:46)]any other advice that is appropriate?
Run. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
w8cbc
10-13-2005, 01:01 AM
Casual, like I said. Don't let on that it means a lot to you. I used to consider that a load of gumph but now realise that it's best. Let her come to her own conclusions. Also, always leave the woman a clear out. I've found it encourages them if anything to know they can bail at any time.
WB2WIK
10-13-2005, 01:03 AM
Geesh.
There are simple rules for this, if you're a man (or a male teenager, which is a MIP -- Man In Progress).
1. Men are right, women aren't.
2. Ham radio, fast cars, sports or whatever you're into rules.
3. Best line I ever used as a teenager: "Want to have some wild sex? Or, otherwise, how about lunch instead?"
That last one worked about 99% of the time.
Of course, you could use the line from a Harrison Ford movie, "I know this great blowfish place...." I thought that was too corny. Also, potentially fatal.
Remember quitters never win and winners never quit.
Also:
You're only young once, take advantage of it.
Youth is wasted on the young -- everybody over 40 says this.
It's a big sea, with a lot of fish in it.
The object is to be the King of the Sea, while you can.
And, when you're dead 100 years, you just started being dead. Act now.
WB2WIK/6
W5HTW
10-13-2005, 01:04 AM
Try this:
My people have been trying to get in touch with your people, but so far no connection has been successful. Find out, would you, when your people will be available for my people to call, visit, email or PDA them. They, my people, have a serious proposal for your people, and it needs to be discussed. However, since they are having so much difficulty getting in touch, why don't you and I go to McDonald's today at noon, and see if we can coordinate their schedules?
Ed
KE7DZZ
10-13-2005, 01:16 AM
I ain't no Casanova, but I have always done alright with the fairer sex once I adopted one simple approach. Be yourself, be honest, and don't listen to your inner doubts, just do it.
p.s. I am now very happily married with to beautiful children, my technique works.
vk4xjb
10-13-2005, 01:43 AM
Quote[/b] (ka8ncr @ Oct. 13 2005,10:06)]You could try the caveman method:
Throw her over your shoulder and take her to McDonald's (not recommended, cavemen still exist and they're sensitive to stereotyping)
Gets an interesting response if you are in a room full of people at the time. Married her a year or so later.
But then there were no doubts about what she thought of me at the time anyway. Would not have done that is there had been any doubts.
KA4DPO
10-13-2005, 01:44 AM
Just ask her if she would like to have lunch. And don't talk about radio or she will think your a nerd instantly.
Well, look at the bright side. At 17, you can still ask a girl out without having to worry about what your wife might think. (At least I assume that's the case. And if it isn't, you should be giving us advice!)
Seriously, just ask. Chances are she'll be flattered and the worst she can do is say "no." (" 'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all," and all that.)
The real danger, though, is that she might say "yes." As they say, be careful what you ask for -- you might get it. But you're still young and we'll wait until you're older before we get into that can of worms.
Anyway, go for it and good luck!
n7rjd
10-13-2005, 03:44 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 12 2005,12:34)]I am going to try the direct method "do you want to go to lunch with me?"
Best choice you could make. Don't worry about what to say, that will come on it's own. It will be different than anything you could have rehearsed anyway so don't torture yourself.
Whatever you do don't try any of the corny lines you may have heard work. Women like guys with a sense of humor but not guys that will be the butt of every joke between them and their friends for a long time to come.
kb2vxa
10-13-2005, 05:22 AM
Hi guys,
This thread is a hoot!
"It's a big sea, with a lot of fish in it.
The object is to be the King of the Sea, while you can."
Yeah, more like Chicken Of The Sea at 17, now why do you think he asked US? (And got plenty of really bad advice.) Hey, the nerdy aproach isn't really all that shaky, she's a nerdette since she's got her ticket and besides, the chicks know darn well the guys are shaking in their boots. Methinks the opening "line" that'll make it or break it is "How 'bout a sked over some food?" and take it from there, or not.
Take it from an experienced ex lounge lizard, the female of the species is the predator, they HATE to be thought of as prey. Don't chase them, just make yourself available and if you're a Field Of Dreams they'll come. If you're not, she'll make some lame excuse and split. That way you know just where you stand, if rejected don't push, no means NO. (Or she may just want to be friends, one of my closest is a YL and yes, she's a ham.) In any case, just pop the question and you'll get an answer. GIT 'ER DONE!
ka0gkt
10-13-2005, 05:46 AM
Brandon, Brandon, Brandon.
You must be careful. You are at that tender age when Girls cease to have cooties and start becoming Cuties!
Just ask her. "Would you like to go out for lunch? My treat!" works. Then again, I rarely had problems getting dates in High School. I had a '65 Mustang Rag Top and a really good 8-track stereo (and Galaxy V MKII transceiver which usually stayed off during dates) The convertible wasn't all that fast, but it had good pick-up. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I'd give you my best pick-up line, but like the line from Mary Poppins it could change your life...one night I used it on my girl and myw my girl's my wife! (25 years and counting). I do have a 16-year old daughter...but she isn't interested in boys who can't drive a manual transmission and copy at least 13 WPM Morse Code. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
73 DE KAØGKT/7
--Steve
w5klb
10-13-2005, 07:03 AM
Brandon,
Just be yourself and ask her nicely in your own way. The worst that can happen is that she says "no". Treat your invitation like it's no big deal-it's just lunch. It's not like your asking her for a serious commitment.
Relax. You'll do fine no matter what the outcome will be.
You're getting all j-j-jervous and n-n-nerky for nothing
KG4CGC
10-13-2005, 08:23 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 12 2005,20:46)]any other advice that is appropriate?
Be direct, sincere and don't end a sentence with "or something". It shows a lack of confidence or it could be
construed as having another agenda. ie: What do you mean or something? or Or Something like what? That is a conversation you want to avoid. It could also depend on how she says it as well however, beware that she may be testing you and as such it could be a set up. Assuming that everything is on the up and up, stick with the first sentence of this post.
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KG4CGC
10-13-2005, 08:30 AM
Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Oct. 12 2005,21:44)]Just ask her if she would like to have lunch. #And don't talk about radio or she will think your a nerd instantly.
Good point to be followed with, Don't talk about bodily functions. There will be plenty of time for that talk after your old and farty. Right now is not a good time to share farts so leave the room to expell gas, this includes burping.
KG4CGC
10-13-2005, 08:38 AM
I think they are both lovely young ladies
but too young for me.
Send her flowers with a card that says;
<name>, your really cute & I like you a bunch! I'd like to take you out to lunch! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
(actually draw the smiley face too!)
If the relationship should grow to such magnitude, who knows, maybe one day you'll restore an old S-line together or something. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Hey, life is too short and you need to know where you stand in her eyes.
Kevin
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 12 2005,20:23)]Quote[/b] (ki4bnc @ Oct. 12 2005,17:21)]Quote[/b] (ka8ncr @ Oct. 12 2005,17:14)]Or email her a link to the thread.
best reply I have seen in this thread yet...
i vote send her a link to this thread.
(although I am kinda fond of the caveman approach)
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I beg of you not to do that! I will be humiliated for the rest of my life.
Personally I find it's best not to take it all too seriously. If she likes you, she's probably wondering why you haven't ask her out already. If you just step back for a second or so, it may help you not to be nervous (although it is natural to be a little nervous). Most YLs I know like that in a person and it will help you to break the ice by having a natural relaxed conversation.
Good luck OM. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Oct. 13 2005,04:38)]I think they are both lovely young ladies
but too young for me.
http://www.qrz.com/uploads/post-5-92700-hotties_1_.jpg
Me too!!
RoTFLMAO! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Quote[/b] (KE7ENC @ Oct. 12 2005,12:05)]How about....
"Would you like to go out to lunch with me?"
This is about the best suggestion I can think of, being direct is your best plan.
WA9UAA
10-13-2005, 02:01 PM
Hey Brandon,
All she can do is say yes or no. She can't kill you and eat you, that's against the law. GL
73,
Rob WA9UAA
w8cbc
10-13-2005, 02:02 PM
Lines not to try, continued.
3 - in a deep, growly voice - "My people are coming." (pause) "We breed once a year, you see."
4 - A quote from Blake's 7 - "Hello there! Excuse me wandering about your premesis but I'm looking for some help. You see, I'm an escaped prisoner. I was a thief but lately I've become interested in sabotage. In a small way of course, nothing too ambitious - I hate vulgarity, don't you? Anyway. I've come to blow something up. I'm wondering if you could suggest something suitable."
texham
10-13-2005, 02:15 PM
Brandon: there is no easy, pain-free way to do it. There is no way that is guaranteed to not make you nervous or otherwise put you out on a limb with the possibility of rejection.
You'll probably always get nervous; you'll probably always get a little scared for fear of her saying no. That is life.
I can tell you though that one bit of good news is that if you start talking to more girls and asking them out, the more you do it, the easier it gets.
BSR, is "Blake's 7" still around anywhere? My family used to really enjoy that program followed by "Good Neighbors" and "Dr Who" on Sat night.
Good Luck UWS.
73 de Ken H>
KA9VQF
10-13-2005, 02:20 PM
I hate to tell ya all but her just saying no is not the worst that can happen. She may turn you down, to your face, but then go on to tell all her friends that you had the audacity to actually speak to her and ask her out to {fill in the blank with a fast food joint here}.
I made this mistake back in high school. The girl in question wasn’t really all that hot but she thought she was and her ‘friends’ were in their own ‘Private Idaho’ and hung out with most of the football team. I received plenty of death threats if I were to ever even think of talking to her or any of the girls in the group again.
I could see that her popularity came from having a car. While a 68 Plymouth Fury III four door sedan might not seem like a really hot car, it was still none the less a car, which most of us did not have. At the time it was only about three years old. Yes, I was interested in the car but more in her.
Yeah, I was truly just a portly geek at the time and to a large extent still am but I don’t even have a pocket protector anymore. I buy brass rimmed glasses so I can solder them when they break and never have bits of tape holding my frames together anymore.
Now, the real question is are you a ‘hunk’ that she might have any interest in?
If so go for it.
If not, does she have a really large brother who will pound you into the ground? If she hangs at all with the jocks, I would leave her alone or start studying martial arts.
w8cbc
10-13-2005, 02:53 PM
Quote[/b] (K9FV @ Oct. 13 2005,07:20)]BSR, is "Blake's 7" still around anywhere? My family used to really enjoy that program followed by "Good Neighbors" and "Dr Who" on Sat night.
BBC have released DVDs for series 1-3. From what I understand, 4 isn't out yet but is expected soon. They're region-two though, no word on region-one. I have, uh, copies... I'll get the region-one set if/when it's ever released though.
Sci-fi channel supposedly have exclusing airing rights to it on this side now but there's no word on whether they will ever actually air it.
I just "discovered" Blake's 7 last year. So much of what's followed through the years has taken cues and ideas from it.
KI4ITI
10-13-2005, 03:06 PM
Quote[/b] ] Ok I do more than ham radio. I am a mountain biker, trail rider, fisherman, hunter, shooter. I play football and baseball with my friends. I am well known throughout my town for walking. I like hiking, camping, the mountains and the prairie. I like cars, video games and off roading.
Well, it sounds as though you're intelligent enough to find value in ham radio, have diverse interests, are physically fit, and probably have a sharpened general awareness from your time spent in the natural world.
Therefore, you are probably completely incapable of comprehending or appealing to the nonsensical whims of the average 17-year-old girl. Sorry. Good luck though...
73
Josh KI4ITI
Good luck Brandon. Just be casual about it.
WA2ZDY
10-13-2005, 06:00 PM
Yes, many of us have felt as VQF did with the football team and the not-so-really-cute girl who thought she was all that. Even the football team won't kill you though, so don't sweat it.
Just ask her out and see what happens. And don't be too embarrassed if she says no. It happens all the time and trust me, most of the guys on the football team have been turned down too. And any time you feel really reluctant, think of MY high school experience: I went to an all boys school. Ugh.
CGC, you owe my wife a new 15 inch LCD monitor. I was sitting at her puter when I read your post. At least you only owe me a bottle of lemonade . . .
KG4CGC
10-13-2005, 07:41 PM
Quote[/b] (WA2ZDY @ Oct. 13 2005,14:00)]CGC, you owe my wife a new 15 inch LCD monitor. #I was sitting at her puter when I read your post. #At least you only owe me a bottle of lemonade . . .
Snapple ships better than Minute Maid!
#(Snapple and Minute Maid are both registered trademarks)
LOL! I've been few quite a few keyboards before JPS suggested Saran Wrap. (Saran Wrap is a registered trademark)
Quote[/b] (WA9UAA @ Oct. 13 2005,10:01)]Hey Brandon,
All she can do is say yes or no. She can't kill you and eat you, that's against the law. GL
73,
Rob WA9UAA
...and we know that Lorena Bobbit is overseas right now.
ka0gkt
10-13-2005, 09:14 PM
"How would you like to have an eyeball QSO tomorrow at noon"? #(When she says "Yes", suggest something non-threatening like the food court in the Twin Peaks Mall...girls like malls, pretend that you like shopping and she'll love it) #After a few "Lunches, then suggest an evening at the movies and a pizza. #
Don't expect that she'll want to drive out to Union Reservoir for the submarine races until at least the third or fourth date! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Above all, be yourself, but be a gentleman. #If that's not good enough for her, she's not good enough for you. #The sea is a big place, Brandon. #There are many many fish out there and one day you'll be out trolling for a girl and she'll catch YOU!
73 DE KAØGKT/7
--Steve
w8cbc
10-13-2005, 09:49 PM
I asked a woman to dinner. Yes. Mentioned a bunch of places we might go. She picked one close to my place. Considering we're nearby, would ya like to see the boat / ferrets / et c? Yes. Within half an hour of passing through the front door, we were at it hot and heavy.
That's the result I got from letting the woman make the choices and leaving her a clear "out". She told me later that last bit was a major point in my favour. I consider that escape route necessary. Above all, she has to be comfortable with the situation.
She's the "ex" who's intrigued by the hobby and recently surprised the hell outta me by mentioning she'd learned code as a girl. We tuned in something fairly slow one evening and sure enough, she got about half of it. I'm after her to re-learn the rest and get her ticket. If I could do it... and all that gumph.
n7rjd
10-13-2005, 09:59 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Oct. 13 2005,07:43)]Rob WA9UAA
...and we know that Lorena Bobbit is overseas right now.[/QUOTE]
And here I heard Lorna Bobbit died in a car accident. Something about some (short for Richard and I don't mean Rich or Rick) cut her off.
DarthZeth
10-13-2005, 10:04 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 13 2005,02:31)]I went to the mall today (yea I am a loser who hangs out at the mall) and had plently of cute girls (around my age) looking at me. It didn't bother me. I was acting normal. Just got to chicken to go up and start talking with any of them. Any help with that?
They (the cute ones at least) all have boyfriends. It is annoying me.
Ok I do more than ham radio. I am a mountain biker, trail rider, fisherman, hunter, shooter. I play football and baseball with my friends. I am well known throughout my town for walking. I like hiking, camping, the mountains and the prairie. I like cars, video games and off roading. Is that enough to make a girl like me?
My dislikes: shopping. Now why did I go to the mall if I don't like shopping?
Not to hurt your ego, but more important is what SHE is interested in. If you don't care about that, why would she care about you?
At least, for the kind of girl I'd want, she'd have to have some interesting hobbies of her own.
WB2WIK
10-13-2005, 10:20 PM
This whole topic is so far out of range of "Q&A" I don't know why it's still here, but here's one that works well (always did for me, as a teenager):
I'd find a group of YLs and pick the prettiest one, walk up to her and ask if she knew any ugly girls.
She'd always say, "Why?"
And I'd always say, "Because you're way too cute to go out with me."
And she'd say, "That's ridiculous! What makes you think that?" and demand an explanation.
And then, we'd go out.
Be innovative.
WB2WIK/6
kl7aj
10-13-2005, 10:28 PM
Show her your ham license and your pocket protector, and she'll ask YOU out to lunch. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
eric
KI4GKW
10-13-2005, 11:37 PM
From a 15 y/o,
My advice is just be straight with her. I've done that once or twice before and have had quite good results with them. Dad may read this so that's as far as I go. All I can say is ask her out and then honest with her (even if it pisses her off it's better than lieing).
Paul
n0xas
10-14-2005, 04:45 AM
Let me get this straight. You're asking a bunch of Net-addicted hams for advice on getting a girl to go out with you?
Isn't that kind of like asking your parents' tax guy how to pick out clothes?
You poor, poor guy. Good luck.
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ka0gkt
10-14-2005, 05:14 AM
Just ask her. Behold! The lowly turtle doesn't get anywhere until he sticks his neck out.
73 DE KAØGKT/7
kd7msc
10-14-2005, 05:58 AM
Well did you ask yet?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
kc0vrs
10-14-2005, 04:05 PM
Quote[/b] (kd7msc @ Oct. 13 2005,22:58)]Well did you ask yet?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Saturday afternoon
KD6NIG
10-14-2005, 05:02 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 14 2005,09:05)]Quote[/b] (kd7msc @ Oct. 13 2005,22:58)]Well did you ask yet?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Saturday afternoon
The man is a pimp and didn't even know it!
(Just kidding, good job!)
KA9VQF
10-14-2005, 05:14 PM
I think you might mean he is a player, pimps don’t ask they tell and reinforce it with a brick, club, firearm, or some such.
KD6NIG
10-14-2005, 05:27 PM
Quote[/b] (KA9VQF @ Oct. 14 2005,10:14)]I think you might mean he is a player, pimps don’t ask they tell and reinforce it with a brick, club, firearm, or some such.
Well, I guess I'm not as well versed in 'street talk' or talk that teenagers use nowadays. Either way http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I was joking anyway. Course, now that hes asked for advice on here, everyone is going to want to know how it goes.
I hope you were counting on that when you asked for the advice, thread starter http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
ab8ma
10-14-2005, 06:01 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 13 2005,01:34)]I am going to try the direct method "do you want to go to lunch with me?"
Now comes the hard part.
If she says YES, it means Maybe.
If she says MAYBE, it means a strong Yes.
If she says NO, it really means a literal Maybe as opposed to the MAYBE above which means a strong YES.
K5UOS
10-14-2005, 06:39 PM
It is obvious from the posts that certain members of this group are not likely contributors to the problem of over population.
The last girl I dated was 15 years old. We have been married for 33 years. I have no earthly idea what one would say to ask a girl on a date anymore. What worked for me was that I played Bass in a traveling Blues Rock band, had long hair, a nice car....and I certainly didn't tell her I was a ham until much, much later. Times change but stuffing your pockets full of 100 dollar bills is an ice breaker with some women.
K5UOS dk
be:
direct
honest
sincere
yourself.
other than that:sink or swim.
best of luck.
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w8cbc
10-14-2005, 09:50 PM
K5UOS - yes, having a big wallet helps. :smirk:
One I've heard, how to pick up a woman in a drinking establishment: ask her what she's having. Buy her another and walk away.
I tried this once. The woman's husband came over later to thank me.
KA9VQF
10-14-2005, 10:05 PM
I have found that actually picking a woman up in a bar can get you hurt. Besides my back can’t take it anymore.
Some of those critters are darn heavy. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
kb2vxa
10-14-2005, 10:58 PM
"K5UOS - yes, having a big wallet helps. :smirk:"
"Every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man."
ZZ Top (Listen to the song for clues.)
I GOT IT!!! Walk around with a silly smirk and wave at the girls with that nerdy palm forward wave. She'll think you have a big (wallet) or make silly TV commercials. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
KF0RT
10-14-2005, 11:33 PM
Best thread I've ever seen on QRZ. And proof that hams (even the Inet addicted ones) aren't TOTAL geeks.
Just be yourself, Brandon. Nothing wrong with being nervous about it. And when she says yes, talk about HER. That's the best way for you to know if there should be a second date, and it'll put you at ease, too.
Of course, since you started this, we'll be wanting a full report. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
73, Rob
Feminist chicks dig me.
w8cbc
10-15-2005, 12:15 AM
Laughter always helps.
Just so long as it's before you get undressed. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KG4CGC
10-15-2005, 12:39 AM
Easy there Geronamo! QRZ was still a family site last time I checked! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
KA9VQF
10-15-2005, 06:07 PM
I'm not really sure I want to know if you "get lucky" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
KA9VQF
10-15-2005, 06:24 PM
Perhaps the term ’get lucky’ has a different meaning these days. I am kinda old ya’know.
KA9VQF
10-15-2005, 06:40 PM
{dramatic drum roll} and the answer is,….
texham
10-15-2005, 06:41 PM
Yes I am eager to hear how this turns out.
KA9VQF
10-15-2005, 06:44 PM
Man this is almost as exciting as when Gerardo opened Al Capone’s vault!
KA9VQF
10-15-2005, 07:02 PM
This delay will give you time to get the film crew ready, remember we will expect to see the film at eleven.
WA2ZDY
10-15-2005, 08:53 PM
Ooooooooooooooooooo that's bad. #Women are allowed to be late, in fact it's expected. #YOU are not allowed to be late. #There is NOTHING that is a valid enough excuse for being late when a lady is waiting. #If you are late, you're done.
If you're slow, you blow; money talks, BS walks; you snooze, you lose.
Rules to live by.
KI4GKW
10-15-2005, 10:48 PM
Awsome, that's a good sign.
Paul
Quote[/b] ] well the answer I got was...... she wasn't sure if she is doing anything next Saturday, so I'll have to call her mid week just to see.
Don't get your hopes up (or anything else)! Sounds like she is looking for something else to do. If they are real interested they will jump at the chance! They will drop most anything planned with their girlfriends if interested enough. None the less good luck with it! Don't be afraid to ask. Ya don't get what ya don't ask for! If she will go out with you make sure she can pass the hamfest test! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
kd7msc
10-16-2005, 05:26 AM
Sounds like she is playing hard to get. Tell her you like her and want to take her out. If she says she is busy ask her to tell you when a good time is. Shoot for dinner if she is busy for lunch. Good luck
73
KE7ENC
10-16-2005, 06:05 AM
When you call her back ask her this:
Which day is better for you Saturday or Sunday.
Then shut up.
You didn't get her to say yes or no but instead asked her to deciede on which.
If she says anything beyond Saturday or Sunday, you could continue on and pursue her further or move on.
Ask her what is her favorite places to have lunch. Then ask of those selections which place should you take her on (insert day here).
If she balks on this one you can continue further or move on.
Tell her you will be going to (insert eatery here) on (insert day here) and that you could treat or you could go dutch, which do you preffer?
If she balks on this one, move on, there are more fish in the sea.
WA2ZDY
10-16-2005, 09:47 AM
ENC is right. IF she stays wishy washy on the next call, cut your losses and take the hint. Women's "maybes" are usually a pretty clear indicator of non-interest. As said above, if she is interested she'll make it work.
At least you asked, found out you'd live through it, and now the next time will be easier. ENC was so right when he said there are plenty of fish in the sea.
Good luck. I am so glad I'm not 17 again!!
m3eay
10-16-2005, 10:50 AM
well if u get on well there should be no probleming in asking her out be a man about it justed ask her straight out
The good thing about the ones who say no is that you don't have to bother yourself about them anymore!! As it does happen, that they say no not interested, you will not be concerned about it after some failed attempts. It does not matter so much how much you are looking at her, what matters is if she is looking at you! Female choice and male competition is the universal way of things. Try to notice who lights up in the face when you are around them and tries to keep the conversation rolling. Not all women are 4-1000A's some are 6AQ5A's. The latter is much less dangerous to work with! Of course the occassional 807 is a good driver! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
KG4CGC
10-17-2005, 02:18 AM
Don't forget the 6L6's and the these days rare 1L6's! I did date a very nice 6CW4 for a while. A real hardbody with silky smooth and soft skin.
KA5WXU
10-17-2005, 04:27 AM
Great post!
First off - what are you afraid of in truth? Rejection? If so, get over it! Seriously, you're going to be turned down by schools, jobs and women throughout your life. You might as well start practicing your jumps and work through your bad landings. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
My recommendation, I'd find something fun to do that I enjoyed. Could be something as simple as a walk to her class, a few minutes throwing a frisbee between class or something like that. If you're active, then you'll show her your active and that you're fun.
If you invite her to toss a frisbee a bit and she says no thanks, then you could say, "it seems like no one but me is in the mood for it anyway....can I buy you a coke?"
If she says "yes", you're golden. If she says no, just say "have a great day" and be on your way. Don't let it get you down.....just roll with the punches.
What you've done however is to advertise yourself as an active guy who is fun and polite. Whether she likes you or not, that reputation will get around. That is a much better one to have than say a "needy" guy reputation. That is the one you'll have if you invite her to something else after her refusal to have a coke. That is also the one you'll get if you call her - too much or too soon.
In regards to calling, I'd recommend you take a day or two after you meet them and then call. That way you come across calm and non-threatening. It also sparks a questions "Why hasn't he called" It plays a trump card and she might start wondering about her being rejected. Quite a few women - notably - young women will do this. Their minds will go through quite a few scenario's etc. Then in the middle of her scenario or two - you call a day or so later. Bringing a smile to her face - in a perfect world. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Just remember - dating is a blood sport. You're going to get a black eye every now and then but it is how you handle it that makes you who you are. Don't become some needy disgusting blobbering fool - just suck it up and move on. Keep doing the things you enjoy and sooner or later, someone will pop into your life that enjoys the same things you do. However, if you don't do what you enjoy, you'll never find these women.
Personally - I like "Dirt Barbie's". You know - girls that enjoy backpacking, hiking, snowboarding, snowshoeing and climbing. Well I found one and life is very good. You'll find one of what you're looking for if you do it with patience, non-neediness and stay active doing what you enjoy doing.
Just don't call them too often in the beginning, and you'll be fine.
KG4CGC
10-17-2005, 04:32 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 17 2005,00:05)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Oct. 16 2005,19:18)]Don't forget the 6L6's and the these days rare 1L6's! I did date a very nice 6CW4 for a while. A real hardbody with silky smooth and soft skin.
we need 6JS6A's
Oh you twisted little monkey!
KA5WXU
10-17-2005, 04:42 AM
Quote[/b] (KA9VQF @ Oct. 15 2005,12:02)]This delay will give you time to get the film crew ready, remember we will expect to see the film at eleven.
So long as it isn't the "CHEATERS" film crew - we'll be fine. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KA5WXU
10-17-2005, 05:19 AM
Quote[/b] (k7mh @ Oct. 15 2005,22:16)]Quote[/b] ] well the answer I got was...... she wasn't sure if she is doing anything next Saturday, so I'll have to call her mid week just to see.
Don't get your hopes up (or anything else)! Sounds like she is looking for something else to do. If they are real interested they will jump at the chance! They will drop most anything planned with their girlfriends if interested enough. None the less good luck with it! Don't be afraid to ask. Ya don't get what ya don't ask for! If she will go out with you make sure she can pass the hamfest test! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Not a good sign my friend....welcome to the BLOOD SPORT known as DATING. #I'd recommend that you cut bait and wet another hook my friend.
She is waiting for what she believes is a "better" offer whether it be another guy or a girlfriend. #If she has plans with her girlfriends, she could have said, "You know, I think I had tenatively agreed to see a movie with "Suzy Q" but let me check. #If I am mistaken, then absolutely - let's get together." You don't leave someone hanging like she left you and if left hanging you certainly don't hang around like a chimp waiting for a banana. #In sailor speak - SCREW THAT! #Don't play her game....not for one second.
My advice: #Whatever you do, DO NOT CALL HER BACK. #That is playing "her game". #If you want it to become "your game" then don't call and you let her wonder "why?". #Sure you'll come across as a TOOL but you know - you're a guy - it's okay. #We're all "tools" in their eyes at one time or another. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Seriously - don't pursue this and DO NOT CALL her. #You're going to come across looking as needy if you do call. #That reputation will get around and you won't have a date for months. #What you do need to do is to come across active and strong. #My recommendation, "You now have other firm plans on Saturday." #I don't care if you don't. #Do something but DO NOT ANSWER any calls from her or any unknown numbers on your cell/home number.
If she approaches you in school midweek and says, "Hey, next Saturday is looking good". #You say, well you know, I had the opportunity to firm up other plans since it seemed you weren't interested. #So this weekend is now not so good on this end, however, if you'd like to get together the following weekend, I'd be interested in getting together then. #What does your schedule look like? #If she says she'll have to get back with you, then you say sure thing. #I'll call you tomorrow and we can firm things up then.
BALL IN YOUR COURT.
JD
Ok, I'm a 17 year old girl m'self. (Posting on my dad's account. Muwahaha. With permission of course <3)
And I say: Don't listen to the guy above me, because, honestly, if I were that girl and some guy did that to me, I'd be really annoyed and think he was a jerk. Girls just get nervous sometimes when guys ask them, and they don't know what to say.
Though the way I got my borfriend was strange... We never had like a first date thing... Maybe that was Anime Expo... (Yeah we came to the conclusion that we are nerds... XD But PROUD nerds! WHOOOO-BOY!) In fact we never asked eachother "Wanna go out?" It just sorta happened. I think that's probably the best kind, y'know? But it doesn't always happen.
So uh, what you should do... Yeah just call her back in the middle of the week, say hi to her at school from time to time, but not all the time cause she might freak and think you're a creepy stalker. (I had one of those... *Shudders* He STILL stares at me... >>;;) Like, say hi to her if you just walk by her, but not when she's with a million friends.
Yeah I'm completely useless. But best of luck, and I'm sure that she's flattered that you like her. But don't chase after her too much, and DEFINATELY don't blow her off and say you made plans and crud. *Glares at KA5WXU*
And DO answer her calls, cause she'll get upset if you don't and think you're a jerk.
I hope that made any sense at all... GOOD LUCK!
-Amber
(Insert spiffy Radio Ham greetings here)
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KA5WXU
10-17-2005, 12:36 PM
Quote[/b] (K7FE @ Oct. 16 2005,22:54)]Ok, I'm a 17 year old girl m'self. (Posting on my dad's account. Muwahaha. With permission of course <3)
And I say: Don't listen to the guy above me, because, honestly, if I were that girl and some guy did that to me, I'd be really annoyed and think he was a jerk. Girls just get nervous sometimes when guys ask them, and they don't know what to say.
Though the way I got my borfriend was strange... We never had like a first date thing... Maybe that was Anime Expo... (Yeah we came to the conclusion that we are nerds... XD But PROUD nerds! WHOOOO-BOY!) In fact we never asked eachother "Wanna go out?" It just sorta happened. I think that's probably the best kind, y'know? But it doesn't always happen.
So uh, what you should do... Yeah just call her back in the middle of the week, say hi to her at school from time to time, but not all the time cause she might freak and think you're a creepy stalker. (I had one of those... *Shudders* He STILL stares at me... >>;;) Like, say hi to her if you just walk by her, but not when she's with a million friends.
Yeah I'm completely useless. But best of luck, and I'm sure that she's flattered that you like her. But don't chase after her too much, and DEFINATELY don't blow her off and say you made plans and crud. *Glares at KA5WXU*
And DO answer her calls, cause she'll get upset if you don't and think you're a jerk.
I hope that made any sense at all... GOOD LUCK!
-Amber
(Insert spiffy Radio Ham greetings here)
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While I would like to say that I agree with you in many ways, my past experience tells me otherwise.
I agree...it is toolish thing to blow her off but it is another thing(won't mention here) the way she is behaving. If he waits around for her to make up her mind then she's planning her weekend excluding him....you can't argue that. I appreciate the "girls get nervous" part and I respect that.
My only advice to him - DON'T PLAY HER GAMES. Seriously - life is too short to do it. If it doesn't work - it doesn't work. Personally - I'd dump the idea of dating her if I didn't have an answer by Monday night. A guy has to plan his weekend too you know. I hope by Wednesday she has firmed up plans with our resident ham - however, she's going to bail. Just wait and see.
(shrugs off the girls get nervous part and just says she's planning a weekend excluding you)
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Glad to see you on.
JD
WA2ZDY
10-17-2005, 02:35 PM
Either WXU's or Amber's philosophies may be correct, based on the young lady in question. Problem is, you don't know which will work with this particular one. That's why life is a gamble.
KE7ENC
10-17-2005, 03:33 PM
I remember attending a sexual harrassment seminar a few years back. Sexual harrassment was defined as crossing the boundary over which the average rational woman would consider out of bounds.
I asked the presenter, "Is this the way it is written?" she said "this is the way it is interpreted", I said....
"We're screwed, there is no such thing as an average and rational woman".
N0KLT
10-17-2005, 03:39 PM
Quote[/b] (KE7ENC @ Oct. 17 2005,10:33)]I remember attending a sexual harrassment seminar a few years back. Sexual harrassment was defined as crossing the boundary over which the average rational woman would consider out of bounds.
I asked the presenter, "Is this the way it is written?" she said "this is the way it is interpreted", I said....
"We're screwed, there is no such thing as an average and rational woman".
How long were you in the hospital after that little remark? Sounds like 'dead man walking' stuff to me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KE7ENC
10-17-2005, 04:00 PM
I did get a round of chuckles from the other guys in the audience and a "dead man" glare from the presenter. I don't think she was amused.
I validated my comment by saying, "Ask 10 women what the boundary is and your going to get 10 different answers". I realized after saying that that I was digging an even deeper hole. I deceided to be quite through the rest of the day.
I did however still manage to get a certificate of attendance for the seminar. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KE7DFP
10-17-2005, 04:32 PM
Ok, first thing to remember is, it's just a numbers game. #The guy who only succeeds one out ten times in getting a girl to go out, but hits on 50 a week, is going to beat the guy who bats 50%, but only hit's on two a year, everytime. # He's going to beat that guy by 260 to 1, to be exact.. Plus he's going to quickily have the added bonus of reckless nonchalance, or in otherwords, "I don't give a Dang if you #want to go out or not". #Women find this absolutely irresistable. #Or at least, such a high percentage do that you'll never have time to get to the others in this lifetime. This will be your secret Weapon. # More on that later. Secondly, NEVER EVER, let the woman , for any reason, think you are a nice guy. #This is the Kiss of Death.!!! #Don't be considerate, responsible, generous, or if you are any of these things, make every attempt to conceal it. The closest thing to a DATE is you #showing up late, with a six pack of beer on her porch. #Have a couple of beers already gone out of the rings, and make it known to her that she will be cooking dinner for you before you come over. Pound the beers and belch loudly while she cooks. #Complain that she has no wine # on hand for the meal, or if she did set out a bottle complain of it's vintage. #Never let her think she can do enough to please you. # Make sure she has no doubts about what you have on your mind, either, or that you are after only one thing. #This means by just accepting a visit from you she is implying that seduction is a possibility. #Now, if you come up against the real Ice princess, the untouchable goddess everyone has failed at, do not lose heart, she is just made of flesh and blood , too. #What usually works best on this sort is the indirect approach. #She will probally have 2-3 friends quite marginal in the looks department, but make her shine nicely in public. Walk up to their table, COMPLETELY ignoring the princess, and give her dullest friend your undivided, flattering, attention. #Take her out. #This will drive the Ice princess mad, and fire her couriousity to a point where she will start sneaking behind her friends back. She will absolutely HAVE to know what makes you tick, for this experience of being ignored is a new one for her. #She will find it strangely thrilling, and if you radiate an aura of danger, so much the better. #Wait for her to come and throw her unworthy self at your feet, #Once again let her know you are a real jerk and she better know she's about to get into. With a little practice you can bat around 80% success rate using this one. Make this one your specialty. #When you get about 20 years older, my final bit of advice would be to keep guys like yourself away from your daughters. #You'll know who they are, you'll spot them a mile off.
WA2ZDY
10-17-2005, 05:48 PM
You know what the sad thing is about DFP's comments? Too often they're true. In my line of work I saw so many cases where the women DID prefer the rotten ones over the good guys. Go drive past a prison parking lot on visit day. Sure there are lots of dumpy women. But there are at least as many magazine cover model quality women there too. I don't understand it, never did, never will, but thems the facts.
Two of my cousins, one now deceased, spent many years in the state prison system here in NJ. They shared a girlfriend. A gorgeous and fairly intelligent, well spoken and hard working lady. She was with whichever of them was out at the time. And when both cousins - brothers - were in jail at the same time, she could be found in the company of some other scuzzball. This girl could have had ANY man she wanted and that was what she chose.
It's true too often what they say: nice guys finish last. Women like the bad boy image. You don't often see a guy with tattoos and piercings and whatever else without a woman around, or at least at home. Good look at Easyrider magazine. Those bikers look pretty happy to me.
Go figure.
Quote[/b] ] You know what the sad thing is about DFP's comments? #Too often they're true. #In my line of work I saw so many cases where the women DID prefer the rotten ones over the good guys. #Go drive past a prison parking lot on visit day. #Sure there are lots of dumpy women. But there are at least as many magazine cover model quality women there too. #I don't understand it, never did, never will, but thems the facts.
I used to be a jailer in Snohomish County. True story! Pretty weird I thought. Can only figure they like the excitement of a bad boy. Dem wimmins dunt tink korrektly!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Keep in mind that there are ones you want to take home, and then there are ones you want to take home to meet Mom!
ab8ma
10-17-2005, 11:43 PM
Branden - She is yours.
Be cool.
No, be patient.
ab8ma
10-17-2005, 11:48 PM
Help me out here, Did he ever ask? what happened?
kc0vrs
10-17-2005, 11:52 PM
yea I did ask. She wasn't sure if she was going to be busy this Saturday or not, so I was told to give her a call midweek (when she isn't so busy). Well just have to wait and see what happens.
KD7WHQ
10-18-2005, 12:49 AM
So, give her a call midweek.
Simple stuff.
She MAY just be trying to see if you are really interested.
IE: "This one was a panout, we'll try for girl number 4", in her mind. Your calling back puts her at number 1.
And I keep thinking, if I could go back 30 years with what I know now, lol ;)
N0WVA
10-18-2005, 12:53 AM
Quote[/b] (ki4iti @ Oct. 13 2005,08:06)]Quote[/b] ] Ok I do more than ham radio. I am a mountain biker, trail rider, fisherman, hunter, shooter. I play football and baseball with my friends. I am well known throughout my town for walking. I like hiking, camping, the mountains and the prairie. I like cars, video games and off roading.
Well, it sounds as though you're intelligent enough to find value in ham radio, have diverse interests, are physically fit, and probably have a sharpened general awareness from your time spent in the natural world.
Therefore, you are probably completely incapable of comprehending or appealing to the nonsensical whims of the average 17-year-old girl. Sorry. Good luck though...
73
Josh KI4ITI
This dude nailed it.
N0WVA
10-18-2005, 01:02 AM
Brandon, Id call her again as planned, but after that, its not a good sign.
Hope you score the lunch with her.
N0WVA
10-18-2005, 01:11 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 17 2005,18:00)]Quote[/b] (N0WVA @ Oct. 17 2005,17:53)]Quote[/b] (ki4iti @ Oct. 13 2005,08:06)]Quote[/b] ] Ok I do more than ham radio. I am a mountain biker, trail rider, fisherman, hunter, shooter. I play football and baseball with my friends. I am well known throughout my town for walking. I like hiking, camping, the mountains and the prairie. I like cars, video games and off roading.
Well, it sounds as though you're intelligent enough to find value in ham radio, have diverse interests, are physically fit, and probably have a sharpened general awareness from your time spent in the natural world.
Therefore, you are probably completely incapable of comprehending or appealing to the nonsensical whims of the average 17-year-old girl. Sorry. Good luck though...
73
Josh KI4ITI
This dude nailed it.
don't see how he nailed it. I have other interests, but won't talk about that here.
Well, none of us really know you or this girl, but I found it tough to locate my present wife. There is something about stable, down to earth guys that most women dont like.
They want a thrill a minute with the coolest looking thug they can procure. Well, maybe not to this extent, but you get my drift....until they have been around the block a few times then figure out for themselves that a relationship is really not about "style" or "sweet talking", suddenly those rational and quiet guys get attention.
kl7aj
10-18-2005, 01:26 AM
I'd go for TWO pocket protectors.
eric
WA2ZDY
10-18-2005, 03:58 AM
I dated a lady for several years when I was in my early 20s. We were even engaged at one point. But she had a few issues to deal with. First off I was already settled into my career and had been living on my own since age 19. Second I didn't mind living for less rent for a while to save up for a house.
This lady on the other hand said we'd need to move to one of the nicer apartment complexes in town when we married as she wasn't having her friends in my "bachelor dump." (Yes, I lived in the basement of an old house but for what I paid in rent it was a VERY nice basement!) So she was ready to pay four times the rent for . . . show.
She was also into the nightlife, a party girl. i can actually tell you I saw her get sick in a bar, go outside, then when she felt better she went back in and started drinking again. That was too much for even me! But she wasn't ready to live the settled life yet, so why were we engaged? obviously it didn't last. I remember telling her "the day will come when you'll be married to the wild party guy of your dreams. Then one day you'll be home pregnant and he'll still be the party boy . . . "
My mother told me not that long ago that she saw Sandi's mom around town. Sandi is now 41 years old, has two kids and is divorced and living back with Mom and Dad.
What a surprise.
WVA hit that nail pretty square on. The only thing is, like every other "rule of thumb" with women, not all women are that way.
ka0gkt
10-18-2005, 05:04 AM
A few years back, I went to my 30 year High School class reunion. I saw several old flames and their husbands/significant others that weekend. With only one exception, the phrase "There but by the grace of God go I/" came to mind. That one exception was a couple my wife and I have kept in touch with, baby sat each others kids, etc.
73 DE KAØGKT/7
--Steve
Well, what is the status of the date for the weekend? Did you call her mid-week yet? This is better than soap opera.
73 de Ken
KD7WHQ
10-20-2005, 02:49 AM
Soap operas are for people with no life. Haven't you figured that one out?
That said, what's up with the date?
K8ERV
10-20-2005, 09:54 AM
If she turns you down, just give her my phone---
TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
k6pme
10-20-2005, 12:51 PM
If you have been friends for 6 months and you get along great then she's probably just dying for you to ask her out. And probably just as nervous as you. Personally, I would opt for the informal approach as stated earlier.
"I'm hungry and was going to lunch. Would you like to go with me? My treat".
WB8MKV
10-20-2005, 08:48 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 12 2005,16:54)]Ok Guys I feel very weird asking this question, but I need to know the best way to ask a girl out for lunch. She is my age (I am 17 years old). I have known her for about 6 months. We do get along pretty good.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
73,
Brandon
KC0UWS
How ever did you get your license ; your 16 year old sweetie pie take the test for you ?
K9STH
10-20-2005, 09:22 PM
MKV:
You comments are definitely unwarranted and can be construed as a personal attack. I strongly suggest that you edit or delete them immediately. Otherwise stronger action concerning your ability to post on this site may be taken.
Frankly, one of the hardest things for most teenage boys to do is to ask a girl out, especially the first few times. That has NOTHING to do with getting one's amateur radio operator's license.
Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators
K9STH
10-20-2005, 09:39 PM
UWS:
Having been a teenage boy myself, and also being the father of 3 daughters (all now married), there is something that you have to consider.
The fact that she said to call her later in the week may be a sign that she is waiting to see if she gets a better offer. Now, such may not be the case in your individual situation. However, based on my personal experience and by watching my 3 daughters I am inclined to think that way.
However, since she did ask you to call later in the week is a good sign in the fact that she is probably willing to be seen in public with you. This is definitely better than the "I have to wash my hair" excuse, and certainly better than the dreaded "I wouldn't date you if you were the last amoeba on Earth".
Even if she doesn't accept this time, the door is still open. Try again in a week, or two. If she really cannot go out with you this weekend, and if she is definitely interested in you, she might suggest a time that would be more convenient for her. You might even suggest that she pick a time. Don't "press it", but she might come up with something that works out fine.
If you try several times and get the same treatment then you are going to have to realize that she just isn't interested. However, she also doesn't want to hurt your feelings. If that is the case, just consider her a friend but don't push for a date. Things just might change in the future.
Glen, K9STH
WB2RJR
10-20-2005, 10:17 PM
What a great thread! (except for one weird comment)
Brandon,
Listen up, I’m going to give you what will probably be the best advice you ever receive in your life. So, pay attention. The reason you asked this question is because you are self conscious, embarrassed, or perhaps a little shy. The direct approach is best, just ask, but how do you beat how you feel?
DO THIS. Go to a mall, a place with lots of people, somewhere where you aren’t known, and you’ll never see these people again. Go up to people, introduce yourself, offer to shake their hand, say thanks, and move on to the next person you see. Keep doing this until doing it does not bother you in the least, regardless of who you’re meeting. Old people, men, women, sweet young girls, whatever or whoever is next. You should be an expert at this with 50 people, maybe it will take longer. Keep doing it until it has no effect on you. Remember when you start, these people will never see you again so who cares what they think. Now if someone asks what you are doing just tell them, “ I’m a little self conscious about meeting people I don’t know, so decided to come to the mall and meet people until it didn’t bother me.”
Now let me tell you a story and a little extra.
A long time ago, and far, far away, when I was a teenager, I got invited to a party by a fellow I really didn’t know well, but decided to go. When I showed up, there was no one there that I knew except that one guy. Well I felt about the same way you do asking this girl out, uncomfortable. I did not have a particularly good time at this party, but spent some time thinking about that and two days later decided to do something about it. You see, I realized the problem was me, and I needed to be fixed. I went to the West Seneca Mall, just south of Buffalo, NY, and started introducing myself to everyone there. I don’t think I needed to spend 2 hours there until doing this didn’t bother me. Only one older gentleman (maybe in his 30’s) asked me, “What are you doing? I said, “Two days ago I was at this party and didn’t know anyone there, and felt really self conscious about introducing myself, didn’t have a good time and so decided to come here to the Mall and introduce myself to people until it didn’t bother me anymore.”. He said, “God!, that’s really a good idea. Good luck!”
I want you to train yourself to meet/confront anyone and not have it bother you. This is the basic problem with asking girls out, in fact most people have this problem to greater or lesser degree and not just with girls. Imagine you do what I do for a living, make an oil and gas prospect, and then go around meeting people you don’t know trying to get them to give you thousands of dollars for a part interest in it so you can drill it. Think you can do that? Asking girls out is easier. Go to the mall and try it. What you learn will serve you well the rest of your life, at parties, dances, in bars, at job interviews, or in running your own business.
Good Luck!
Marty WB2RJR
KF0RT
10-21-2005, 01:37 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 20 2005,17:49)]Quote[/b] (WB8MKV @ Oct. 20 2005,13:48)]Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 12 2005,16:54)]Ok Guys I feel very weird asking this question, but I need to know the best way to ask a girl out for lunch. She is my age (I am 17 years old). I have known her for about 6 months. We do get along pretty good.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
73,
Brandon
KC0UWS
How ever did you get your license ; your 16 year old sweetie pie take the test for you ?
that really hurts my feelings and I am not lying.
Don't let it bug you, Brandon. Insensitive clods are also a big part of life. Don't take it personally; it'll only drag you down.
I'm still loving this thread. You've received some superb advice here (from hams!!! what is up with that??) -- advice I wish I had when I was your age.
It's all "spot on" from my perspective except for MKV's remark. But, I want to add a little. Be patient. Most guys don't end up with their "first love." In fact, most "first love" situations are heartbreakers for the guys as well as the girls. What you're gaining here is experience that will hopefully lead to a gal you can spend the rest of your years with.
In the advanced course, you'll learn how to pay attention to the girl's parents and her upbringing. This ultimately sets the expectations you will be held to. But, that door swings both ways, too. Ultimately, the girls aren't that different from the boys -- they have the same insecurities and desires.
And the odds are good that you'll meet "the one" when you least expect it. I met my wife (no joke) at a ham radio picnic. She was living with her sis and bro-in-law at the time (both hams), but had no interest in the hobby. It was just something to do that day. We celebrated our 27th anniversary a couple of weeks ago and are now grandparents. Needless to say, she "accepts" my ham eccentricities without question.
At 17, I think you're mostly taking practice exams for the Extra, so to speak. Don't get me wrong, this is GOOD. And I really hope your gal says yes. You will learn a lot either way, however. Just don't let it stop you if it doesn't work out. Half of the battle is just realizing that there are a lot of girls out there and some of the best aren't models.
vy 73, Rob
ve2nsm
10-21-2005, 02:04 AM
After 14 pages, it was about time for a forum redirection! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
ai4ep
10-21-2005, 02:16 AM
I aint read all 14 pages and aint going to...all I know about it is the main title and this page...
She cant turn you down if you dont ask.
You COULD wait for her to ask you out, but most girls wont do that.
Just ask her out and get it over with...but dont take it personally if she says NO...especially the first time.
and if you DO actually fo out ( even as friends ) treat her so good that she will feel guilty if you two ever do break up. Be known as the " great guy that got away " instead of the " scum I wasted last Tuesday with ".
But then some girls like BAD boys, they want to be treated lousy, for you to cheat on her, etc...but I wouldnt recommend it.
Just be yourself.
Oh, and let us know how things turn out.
also remember to go DUTCH on the first date ( each party pays for their own food/drink/meal ).
ve2nsm
10-21-2005, 02:18 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 20 2005,22:16)]also remember to go DUTCH on the first date ( each party pays for their own food/drink/meal ).
Man... you would'nt last long in Latin America! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Or you would be very, very lonely http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
ai4ep
10-21-2005, 02:29 AM
you forgot...I am the cheapskate of the bunch.
The one that tries to help other folks save money on USED equipment.
enuf said.
AI4EP http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
K9STH
10-21-2005, 02:42 AM
EP:
I may be from the "olde school" but I would NEVER suggest going "Dutch".
When I was a sophomore in college I dated a girl who's father was pretty high in the local Atlanta city government. Since I didn't have a car at the time she would often pick me up at the fraternity house in one of her father's Cadillacs. She also had permanent passes to just about every place in the Atlanta area. But I still paid for anything that cost including food, tips, etc. I felt kinda silly at first since going places didn't cost us anything. However, I did get used to it.
Believe it or not, after I was married (long after I broke up with her) the girl actually got her amateur radio operator's license. I lost track of her decades ago.
But, getting back to the original statement: I definitely do NOT recommend going "Dutch" on the first date. Again, it may be "olde fashioned" but I still believe that the guy pays. Of course if it is something like a "turn about" dance where the girl does the inviting, etc., then she is responsible for the actual event. However, the guy still pays for the food, flowers, etc.
Glen, K9STH
KC9ECI
10-21-2005, 02:53 AM
Like Master Yoda says, "Do, or do not. There is no try."
There are two things outside a fat wallet that women can't resist. Confidence and humor.
Hi Brandon,
You can Practise asking me!!
73s de Samantha 2e1dau xx
Edit:
Nice advice everyone, Amateurs sure know how to treat a Girl/Lady http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
KC9ECI
10-21-2005, 10:52 PM
Quote[/b] (2e1dau @ Oct. 21 2005,17:31)]Hi Brandon,
You can Practise asking me!!
73s de Samantha 2e1dau xx
Edit:
Nice advice everyone, Amateurs sure know how to treat a Girl/Lady http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
The plane fare is gonna leave him with hardly enough for a burger at Little Chef.
Quote[/b] (KC9ECI @ Oct. 21 2005,23:52)]Quote[/b] (2e1dau @ Oct. 21 2005,17:31)]Hi Brandon,
You can Practise asking me!!
73s de Samantha 2e1dau xx
Edit:
Nice advice everyone, Amateurs sure know how to treat a Girl/Lady http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
The plane fare is gonna leave him with hardly enough for a burger at Little Chef.
Hello Sir,
lol, whats worth having is worth flying for http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
73s de Samantha 2e1dau
KC9ECI
10-22-2005, 01:06 AM
I might fly to the UK for a kebob in Holbeach, but never for Little Chef. Blah!
ai4ep
10-22-2005, 03:16 AM
2e1dau...a picture ( very recent ) might help !!
w4rot
10-22-2005, 03:47 AM
I really wish these old goobers would back off and let these two enjoy their lunch.
Everybody'sCupid,NC
w4rot
KE7DFP
10-22-2005, 05:20 AM
Dude , you could have scored on ten gals by now. Just ask every girl you see for a date. By the end of the day you will be turned down by twenty, but have five dates, "censored". Plus, you will be getting really good at it, relaxed and comfortable. It will soon mean nothing if she says yes or no. She will pick up on this and you will be irresistable. She will just HAVE to know what makes you tick. I'm just trying to save you a lot of pain and trouble in life, because I went through the same thing, shyly, UNTIL I went through heavens gate. Remember if she calls you a "friend" it's the kiss of death. It may be too late. You might have taken too long trying to be a "nice" guy. That isn't what they want. Be a Jerk. Nice guys finnish last. Women are simple machines with a repeatable, reliable, combination. Think of it as cutting dipoles, when you hit resonances through the formula and tweeking, it goes "SWIING"
W2ILP
10-22-2005, 11:00 PM
My advise is; if you really like the girl; don't ask her out for lunch. Save up your money and ask her out for dinner. Taking her for a fast food lunch may not be what you really want to do, as it is not much more than talking to her at work.
Don't be shy about asking in any case.
w2ilp (Insufficient Lunch Period?)
AB9JV
10-22-2005, 11:10 PM
The post that was made by AB9JV was very inappropriate. Any further post along those lines will result in him being banned from posting on QRZ.com.
Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators
K9STH
10-23-2005, 12:09 AM
ECI:
Yes it was, but I also "edited" the post that you pointed out. Frankly, I missed the comment.
Glen, K9STH
AB9JV
10-23-2005, 12:26 AM
Sorry, Glen
Lenny
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 22 2005,06:05)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 21 2005,20:16)]2e1dau...a picture ( very recent ) might help !!
that will help lol. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Hi Brandon,
you naughty boy!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Now you’ve gone and blown it http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
However, you can picture me in your dreams......
Just don’t have nightmares lol http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
73s de Samantha 2e1dau
w4rot
10-23-2005, 04:00 AM
UWS,
Try this....
"Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date".
Never worked real good in my day, but it does have potential...IMHO...Good Luck,
w4rot
KD7WHQ
10-23-2005, 04:01 AM
Nightmares??
I don't get those, Samantha ;) lol
ab8ma
10-23-2005, 04:58 PM
Don't worry, Brandon. You will do just fine.
Any rejection from the fair sex should never be taken as a reflection on you.
And take a look around. Maybe you yourself are being chased, and don't know it yet.
Good luck, Good hunting, and Good DX!
Bob - Ab8ma
ab8ma
10-23-2005, 05:28 PM
Brandon, KC0UWS - You have a lookup count on QRZ which rivals most rare DX locations. 6662 lookups. What gives?
kc7jty
10-23-2005, 08:04 PM
If you are overjoyed to be in conversation with a gal you think is the apple of your eye it will radiate all over from you. If there is any compatability between you two it will get em almost every time.
kf6rdn
10-23-2005, 08:50 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 23 2005,10:17)]I tried to see if she was going to be available yesterday, but she was very busy. I'll try in a few days
Huh?
You brought up this question on the 12th? and here it is the 23rd? You've not managed to ask her yet?
Am I missing something?
If I am not, you may well be. Ya gotta ask her before someone else does!
Haven't read the whole thread, dunno if you were maybe talking about a 2nd or 3rd date.
Heck, be now you should know if she is going to be your future ex! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
kf6rdn
10-23-2005, 08:55 PM
Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Oct. 23 2005,10:28)]Brandon, KC0UWS - You have a lookup count on QRZ which rivals most rare DX locations. 6662 lookups. #What gives?
Which of course will make everyone curious, and go look at it more! Heh..
Speaking of which, hey Brandon, how do you like your aea isoloop?
I have the mfj ones. Sometimes seems to work well, sometimes it seems be be a tunable dummyload.
ab8ma
10-23-2005, 08:55 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 23 2005,17:17)]I tried to see if she was going to be available yesterday, but she was very busy. I'll try in a few days
Try deep breathing. You might need it. It may well be that she has other interests.
We would like to hear good news from you, but we also would not like to see you hurt.
Like I said before, look around. There are a lot of girls out there. You have your eyes on this one, others may have their eyes on you.
And what is it with your QRZ lookup count?
W2ILP
10-24-2005, 02:28 AM
It is interesting to see that this thread is continuing to get responses and activity. It is admittedly not about ham radio and it is not about politics.
I guess most hams aren't really interested in ham radio anymore...nor are they interested in politics. Maybe that is why they aren't so fanatic about retaining Morse code exams or electing a sane president.
This thread seems to be very slow, when compared to TV soap operas, Jerry Springer, or court room TV shows....yet there is just enough romance involved to keep the QRZ guys posting.
w2ilp (Intriguing Lunch Put-off) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
kd7msc
10-24-2005, 02:42 AM
No date yet? You better send her a link to this thread. Now she has you building her an antenna. Help her buid her own antenna and order a pizza or somthing. Go out with someone else maybe that will wake her up. Keep us posted.
73, Sean
KC9ECI
10-24-2005, 02:55 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 23 2005,21:06)]Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Oct. 23 2005,13:55)]And what is it with your QRZ lookup count?
the 'F5' key # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Must.............bite..............tongue......... ......
kf6rdn
10-24-2005, 04:28 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 23 2005,19:09)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 23 2005,13:55)]how do you like your aea isoloop?
I like it, it does a good job for me.
Is yours in free space, or indoors? I noticed they don't seem to work well when next to something, even non metallic.
kf6rdn
10-24-2005, 04:29 AM
Quote[/b] (KC9ECI @ Oct. 23 2005,19:55)]Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 23 2005,21:06)]Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Oct. 23 2005,13:55)]And what is it with your QRZ lookup count?
the 'F5' key # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Must.............bite..............tongue......... ......
You're own I hope?
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
kf6rdn
10-24-2005, 10:01 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 23 2005,22:22)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 23 2005,21:28)]Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 23 2005,19:09)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 23 2005,13:55)]how do you like your aea isoloop?
I like it, it does a good job for me.
Is yours in free space, or indoors? #I noticed they don't seem to work well when next to something, even non metallic.
I have mine in the attic
I set mine up on a 10ft mast with an umbrella stand in a room with a vaulted ceiling. Seems to work well psk31.
KI4FCP
10-24-2005, 06:15 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 12 2005,16:54)]Ok Guys I feel very weird asking this question, but I need to know the best way to ask a girl out for lunch. She is my age (I am 17 years old). I have known her for about 6 months. We do get along pretty good.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
73,
Brandon
KC0UWS
Forget it run while you can, focus on getting a good education and make a good living and get all your toys first.
kd7msc
10-25-2005, 02:28 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Oct. 24 2005,19:16)]Quote[/b] (KI4FCP @ Oct. 24 2005,11:15)]focus on getting a good education
I quit school already. I am getting my GED. It is not a diploma, but it is enough to get invloved in the military, which I will soon be joining.
Wow things have changed. The Army would not accept a ged but they did pay for me to go back and get my diploma. That was in 1997.
w8cbc
11-05-2005, 07:39 PM
Quote[/b] (kd7msc @ Oct. 23 2005,19:42)]No date yet? You better send her a link to this thread. Now she has you building her an antenna. Help her buid her own antenna and order a pizza or somthing. Go out with someone else maybe that will wake her up. Keep us posted.
73, Sean
Heehee. Someone I was helping out (and chasing after) kept leaving me hanging. I wound up sharing the Irish whisky with another (the ex I've been on about elsewhere) on a Sunday evening. Stumbled in to work the next day somewhat hung-over and somewhat complaining about it.
A mutual friend asked what I'd got up to. I said I'd got into the glug with someone. "Who?" "You don't know her."
So who calls me that very evening? Mentioning amongst other things that she'd spoken with the mutual friend?
Heehee.
What I've discovered is, making it too easy for them makes them value you less - or not at all. What's unfortunate in my case is that I hate gaming. WTF is wrong with simply honest?
Grmmph.
By the way. When the one I'd been helping out got back on her feet, I was duly appreciated all right: dismissed as no longer relevant. It only goes to further confirm the cynical viewpoint.
Quote[/b] (KC0UWS @ Nov. 05 2005,16:07)]Ok Guys she has been busy lately. I even checked with her dad and he confirmed it as well. I am going to chill for awhile and ask in a few weeks or so.
Time to mosey. As I used to say (when I was unspoken for), Girls are like buses. There will always be another one in five minutes. Sometimes you get more attractive when you date someone else. That's when you walk away (if you want - I do).
ai4ep
11-05-2005, 08:47 PM
So...did he get a date or not ? :rock:
A great thread! Everyone is correct in their own way.
OK, I have spent a fortune and nearly half a century doing everything wrong, so this is my top ten list of what I would NOT do.
10) Agonize over her, thinking about her constantly.
9) Make painful, stuttering attempts to talk to her several times a day.
8) Begin to think you cannot live without her, and torture yourself over everything you say to her and anything she says to anybody.
7) Spend all day writing a note to her about your feelings and then finally throw draft #37 in the trash and give up.
6) Attempt to be really cool when you are around her, confirming your dorkiness.
5) Be courteous, be nice, be caring, be interested -- and above all be needy.
4) Give her many valuables; hang around her; obviously stare while pretending to not look.
3) Die a little death everytime another guy hits on her and she seems to flirt back.
2) Consider suicide if she begins giving it up to some guy who could care less about her.
And the number one thing to NOT do when a girl really interests you:
1) Lose your self respect. (Remember, you are an irresistable manimal that can offer many delights to any girl who does appreciate you!)
I hope my losses are your gain. For the record, I did manage to breed a few times. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Best wishes Brandon.
Dave/al2i
n7wqy
11-06-2005, 12:40 AM
Just ask her. The worst thing she can say is no. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ki4mdc
11-06-2005, 01:32 AM
being on the female end of this question you said that you get along pretty good, have you sat with her at school? If so, just ask her or if not call her on the phone for fear of other kids finding out or drop her an email (if you have her email address)
73 Michele
ki4mdc