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VE7NOT
10-20-2005, 06:54 AM
11m freebanders... some of us dread the words other couldn't care less others...well they smile
However i have travelled abit and here is what i've seen
First of all usa... cbers 95% are in the band 1-40... the rest operatate alot like ham radio operaters using qsl cars sstv and using callsigns they gave themsleves.... there is a 1% or miniority we shoudl worry about. keydowners... int the late 90s i remember these guys as 'all the rage' (anyone remember Rio Dio in southern Cali with 3000w of output fron his suv?_ these are BAD ops and something to wory about I agree.
Most truckers on 10m dont know its not legal
I've been to washington state truck stops along I5 and seen what they sell http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif most truckers would go oh this is a cool radio is had extra channel, my buddy has them too ill be able to talk to him. (the channels near greater seattle are often packed on all 40 channels so this is a benifit as they see it)
Last we come to hams. Yes hams who use Cb.. In canada were regs are lighter hams run hf rigs on the higher cb ssb channels with little problem or complaint.
In the usa hams cause havoc and use there ham callsigns like dummies it seems just asking to get caught under the Fccs iron fist (they might not care about regular freebanders but hams on free band down there they do)
However the worst is for last-- mexico
I spend time in baja (what a time honeymoon) Cabos San Lucas taxis all use channel 3 with 100 watt amps??? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Also In the mist of all this all i had was a small 4 watt set-up but since the askip was rolling as I was not yet a ham then and also since my friends were listenign for me I have just ebnough time so call out.. i got a responce... 4 watts am 11m with a 4 foot antenna from baja mexico to bc canada beat that ha http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ..... it was itterupted by a mexican. From the spainsh I know his family in texas copied him quite well overtop of my qso http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif .. futhermore this is unregulated down there.. I tried a cellphone 800mhz and picked up san jose del cabo intl airport tower tell me to get off http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
sigh im glad in not a mexican ham cause judging by that the hams are probably all on am braadcast
Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ Oct. 19 2005,23:54)]However the worst is for last-- mexico
I spend time in baja (what a time honeymoon) #Cabos San Lucas taxis all use channel 3 with 100 watt amps??? #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
When in the area, did you monitor anything on CB channel 5?
During certain Es propagation events, I hear an enormous din on channel 5 - much like channel 19 is/was at the peak of the "fad" here in the U.S. The occasional "voice above the noise" is almost always a Spanish speaker.
Any ideas who/what is using that channel? Mexican truckers?
PLEASE:
More postings about CB radio!!!
These is just not enough talk about CB related crap on QRZ.
Tom kcØw
kf6rdn
10-20-2005, 04:03 PM
10-4 on that, good buddy.
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KD6NIG
10-20-2005, 04:06 PM
Quote[/b] (kc0w @ Oct. 20 2005,08:41)]PLEASE:
More postings about CB radio!!!
These is just not enough talk about CB related crap on QRZ.
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # Tom kcØw
Almost enough that the authors of this site should start a CB one too http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I have talked to truck drivers that come into my facility and they say that the stuff from mexico is so bad you start hearing it already in Southern California. I have never listened down there to be honest, but if the din is loud in Los Angeles, I could just imagine the RF floating around down south of the border.
And if they are running 100W in taxis, I wonder how many taxi drivers are getting RF related medical issues later in life?
Quote[/b] (kc0w @ Oct. 20 2005,08:41)]PLEASE:
More postings about CB radio!!!
Your wish is my command. Lemme see what I can dredge up... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
ai4ep
10-20-2005, 05:54 PM
...some one call me ?
hee hee hee
AI4EP http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
ve2nsm
10-20-2005, 06:48 PM
Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Oct. 20 2005,11:33)]Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ Oct. 19 2005,23:54)]However the worst is for last-- mexico
I spend time in baja (what a time honeymoon) Cabos San Lucas taxis all use channel 3 with 100 watt amps??? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
When in the area, did you monitor anything on CB channel 5?
During certain Es propagation events, I hear an enormous din on channel 5 - much like channel 19 is/was at the peak of the "fad" here in the U.S. The occasional "voice above the noise" is almost always a Spanish speaker.
Any ideas who/what is using that channel? Mexican truckers?
If you ever go to Cancún, whatch the yellow taxis with the 102" whip http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Now tune the band, you will hear the dispatcher, usually a woman, anywhere between 27800 and 28100. I hear them here everyday.
10-4
doyagotacopyonme?
canyouhearmenow?
canyouhearmenow?
canyouhearmenow?
ireallythinkyoushouldcrankthatthereduckpluckawideo pen
canyouhearmenow?
howboutnow?
10-4goodbuddygotyawalltowallandtreetoptall
yourelisteningtotheupallnightwithlabratshowonwratw ithsponsoringaffiliateswshtthatlittlebro
wnspotonyourradiddio
brought to you in cooperation with preparation h...with the coolin gell.
use it and you will be gellin like a felon.
have a nice day and thank you for listening to KAOS-where rock and roll come out chaos. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
(taken from KAOS by Roger Waters-just dodgeing the copyright police)
KG6YTZ
10-20-2005, 10:24 PM
Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Oct. 20 2005,09:06)]Quote[/b] (kc0w @ Oct. 20 2005,08:41)]These is just not enough talk about CB related crap on QRZ.
Almost enough that the authors of this site should start a CB one too http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
QRM.com? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
ve2nsm
10-20-2005, 10:34 PM
Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Oct. 20 2005,12:06)]And if they are running 100W in taxis, I wonder how many taxi drivers are getting RF related medical issues later in life?
Running 100W in taxis is nothing new. A lot of low band taxi companies are still operating and the mobile rigs range from 60W to 180W.
I often hear 29800KHz FM from NYC down here.
K8ERV
10-21-2005, 10:26 AM
Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Oct. 20 2005,09:32)]Your wish is my command. Lemme see what I can dredge up... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
How about me?
TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
K8ERV
10-21-2005, 10:27 AM
EP: Sorry about that, you beat me to it.
TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
ai4ep
10-21-2005, 12:26 PM
I just have a hard time believing the FCC is serious about eliminating---
amplifiers for cb use
&
these galaxy/ranger/ etc radios that are BUILT for 10/11/12 meter useage
if the fcc was half way serious about enforcing the rules. they would have busted the DISTRIBUTERS of this equipment...not just gone after " tom & jerry s cb shop " for a dozen or two radios & amps.
When the FCC starts busting the distributers, then will folks think they are half way serious about it.
Until then, nah not really.
KD6NIG
10-21-2005, 02:30 PM
Quote[/b] (KG6YTZ @ Oct. 20 2005,15:24)]Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Oct. 20 2005,09:06)]Quote[/b] (kc0w @ Oct. 20 2005,08:41)]These is just not enough talk about CB related crap on QRZ.
Almost enough that the authors of this site should start a CB one too http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
QRM.com? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
tainfour.com comes to mind, but there are MANY that could be used. Maybe QRO.com? (I can't remember which Q-code means increase power offhand)
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 21 2005,05:26)]if the fcc was half way serious about enforcing the rules. they would have busted the DISTRIBUTERS of this equipment...not just gone after " tom & jerry s cb shop " for a dozen or two radios & amps.
Like Copper Electronics?
Get them and you'll solve 75% of the problem. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
KD6NIG
10-21-2005, 03:17 PM
Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Oct. 21 2005,07:49)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 21 2005,05:26)]if the fcc was half way serious about enforcing the rules. they would have busted the DISTRIBUTERS of this equipment...not just gone after " tom & jerry s cb shop " for a dozen or two radios & amps.
Like Copper Electronics?
Get them and you'll solve 75% of the problem. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
No kidding, I saw one of those catalogs once. You want to talk about blatent stuff-I never saw so many 10-meter rigs in my life that used channel numbers.
They always seemed to give the antennas names with sexual connotations also. "Super Penetrator" just doesn't sound like a name for a beam antenna, but that was one of the ones I remember. There are a few operators around here that use those also-one guy has a tower in a residental neighboorhood near where I live, and when 'cranked down' the antenna spans his entire backyard. He also has power lines on the fenceline, so if he turns that thing in the wrong direction....ZAP!
ai4ep
10-21-2005, 04:34 PM
I wonder where the folks got the idea of the MOONRAKER set of beams...
first set up in the air was while the MOON was full, and the new shiny metal glittered in the moonlight
was originally built back in the mid 1960 s when the craze between the USA & USSR was " who would be the first to go to the moon " ?
I guess we will never know.
One reason lots of amateurs dont like for folks here to talk about CB radios at all...guilty conscience. It reminds them of their past ( or they still are CB ops but dont want all of us to know it...like the rest of us will think LESS of them.)
Heck radio communication is radio communication, whether it be business band, amateur, cb, frs , gmrs, cell phones ( oops they ues radio frequencies, too ).
AI4EP ( extra popular)
w8znx
10-21-2005, 05:16 PM
why
the fixation some people here on qrz have with cb radio
I don't care what they buy,
I don't care what power they run,
I don't care where they live,
heck I don't even care if they get on
ten meters down in the cw band
there isn't any ham activity there any way
might just as well have some body using
the freq's
mac dit dit
ps never was cb op,
went from kid swl to kid novice
well over 40 years ago
knew even then that cb was not real radio
VE7NOT
10-21-2005, 05:20 PM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 21 2005,05:26)]I just have a hard time believing the FCC is serious about eliminating---
amplifiers for cb use
&
these galaxy/ranger/ etc radios that are BUILT for 10/11/12 meter useage
if the fcc was half way serious about enforcing the rules. they would have busted the DISTRIBUTERS of this equipment...not just gone after " tom & jerry s cb shop " for a dozen or two radios & amps.
When the FCC starts busting the distributers, then will folks think they are half way serious about it.
Until then, nah not really.
That is why they use the term export. These radios are not made for use in the usa once moddified for 11m
However it seems alot of their customers are americans.
In canada since there is no enforcement at all and as i have mentioned in previous posts ablut hafl the base stations here have extras. And most of those are hams using freeband as a 10 meter extention. (industry canada doesn't care)
Also up here whistler skli resort just north of vancouver uses 27.700 on fm... they didn't buy these radios from commercial sources... those were copper alll modes. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
ve2nsm
10-21-2005, 06:32 PM
Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ Oct. 21 2005,13:20)]Also up here whistler skli resort just north of vancouver uses 27.700 on fm...
Hey! That's the international SSTV calling frequency!!! Let's complain to the authorities ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
kb2vxa
10-23-2005, 04:42 PM
Hi guys,
Better late than never I suppose.
"I wonder where the folks got the idea of the MOONRAKER set of beams..."
Avanti wasn't thinking about the space race, the 007 movie wasn't made yet and not many heard about the Ian Flemming novel. The term refers to an English four masted sailing ship known for it's immense sails.
Oh, I wonder why nobody considered the Black Beauty mobile antenna racist? (;->) Maybe because the only one I saw was on a garbage truck, rather fitting.
One last thing, someone from Canada mentioned US hams on freeband using their callsigns. (stupid) One thing I DID hear nearly every day at the peak of the solar cycle was UK CBers using their callsigns that are remarkably similar to UK Amateur calls. The giveaway was they use FM, and I heard them in the 10M satellite sub-band. This similarity is the probable cause for their sneaking onto the worldwide packet BBS system from time to time, confused callsign filters and that infernal Internet access called "telnet".
n7rjd
10-23-2005, 09:26 PM
Stop rolling and go to sleep so we don't have to suffer yet another thread having nothing to do with the intended format of this board.
VE7NOT
10-23-2005, 11:52 PM
Quote[/b] (KE7DLG @ Oct. 23 2005,14:26)]Stop rolling and go to sleep so we don't have to suffer yet another thread having nothing to do with the intended format of this board.
some of us were not born hams. We worked up from cb. Since my topic is about radio frequecies in general 11m which can at time bleed into 10 and the reason for it in various countries I see no reason this is off topic?
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w4ass
10-23-2005, 11:58 PM
Quote[/b] (kc0w @ Oct. 20 2005,11:41)]PLEASE:
More postings about CB radio!!!
These is just not enough talk about CB related crap on QRZ.
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # Tom kcØw
oh boo whoo waaaaaaaaaa
n7rjd
10-24-2005, 01:37 AM
Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ Oct. 23 2005,10:52)]Quote[/b] (KE7DLG @ Oct. 23 2005,14:26)]Stop rolling and go to sleep so we don't have to suffer yet another thread having nothing to do with the intended format of this board.
some of us were not born hams. We worked up from cb. Since my topic is about radio frequecies in general 11m which can at time bleed into 10 and the reason for it in various countries I see no reason this is off topic?
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We also worked our way up from kindergarten through high school and some even college. Nobody wants to go back to kindergarten after all that work so why should everything always work it's way back to CB with some people?
And I see very little of your original "question" that involves anything other than CB. The only time you mention operators other than CB is to talk about "hams" who operate on CB frequencies. I fail to see how this is a general frequency question as opposed to another CB post.
My original reply was more meant as a play on your words but your defense of your "question" just doesn't pass the smell test. Your posting was an editorial on CB and ultimately posed no question other than if anyone remembers someone running 3000 watts in So. Calif. and if taxis in Cabos San Lucas all use channel 3 with 100 watt amps. I fail to see either of these as being a question that would be worthy of such a long post nor do I see them as being a general frequency question and not a continuing saga of CB posts by those who just can't seem to separate CB from amateur radio.
VE7NOT
10-24-2005, 01:50 AM
point taken. However remmeber while we were int he cb world we made friends and don't just act like bullies when we get our ham ticket (not saying you do http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ... I just know a few locally that have). I still keep in cantact with friends ect. on 11m and also use it for family communication.
Actually im more intetrested what the san jose del cabo tower was doing on 800mhz (on my dad's cell phone) then the taxis on channel 3.
I actually am also curious to know how come 10m seems dead i scan 26- 30 twice a day) and 11m open?..
This is not a Cb vs ham comment but just a note that 10 has been open the last few days.. might be time to get on... if I hear anyone i'll answer. Anyone up for a qso? email.
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n7rjd
10-24-2005, 02:08 AM
Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ Oct. 23 2005,12:50)]point taken. However remmeber while we were int he cb world we made friends and don't just act like bullies when we get our ham ticket (not saying you do http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ... I just know a few locally that have). I still keep in cantact with friends ect. on 11m and also use it for family communication.
Actually im more intetrested what the san jose del cabo tower was doing on 800mhz (on my dad's cell phone) then the taxis on channel 3.
I actually am also curious to know how come 10m seems dead i scan 26- 30 twice a day) and 11m open?..
This is not a Cb vs ham comment but just a note that 10 has been open the last few days.. might be time to get on... if I hear anyone i'll answer. Anyone up for a qso? email.
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I have friends that I have met at many different times in my life, some involved in various aspects of radios and some not. I maintain contact with many and have lost contact with many. My point was not that CB and it's users should be outcasts, only that there are forums dedicated to CB and foums dedicated to amateur radio. You are free to post on both but it would seem more sensible to post CB threads to a CB forum and amateur radio topics to this or other amateur radio forum.
Besides, I would think you could reel in much more colorful answers on a CB forum. Technical knowledge is, in large part, a rumor with that crowd with the wrong story told and retold until it takes foot and becomes lore.
As for whoever being on 800 mhz in Mexico, not a big surprise. My understanding, right or wrong, is that there is little to no regulation down there and chances are somebody tapped into a tower to support either stolen or cloned cell phones. The only surprise I find with that is that there are still 800 mhz phones around. Seems most companies have gone higher in the spectrum and have abandoned 800. When I say my understanding of most companies using higher freqs that could just be that most around here now do and we are usually the last to see the newer stuff. We are the broken link in Nextel's almost coast to coast network (or at least were at one time)
Can't tell you much about recent activity on 10 or 11...I'm in the process of trying to sweet talk a squirel into dragging a piece of wire up to the top of a tree for me so I can get HF up and running soon. I even tried tying an acorn to the end of the wire but so far no luck.
w8cbc
10-24-2005, 06:52 AM
Tie the wire to its tail and chase it with a broom. Up it goes, zzzzip! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Living in northern Ontario involved continual warfare with the little furry monsters. There are lots of obnoxious things you can do to them. Unfortunately, they're good at plotting and implementing revenge. If squirrels could design and build thermonuclear devices, VE3 would be a radioactive wasteland. (No Pickering Hydro comments, please)
kf6rdn
10-24-2005, 11:59 AM
I dunno, I kinda like 'sy's charlie chickenbander posts.
One does not have to click on threads one does not have interest in.
KI4FCP
10-24-2005, 05:05 PM
Quote[/b] (KE7DLG @ Oct. 23 2005,19:08)]Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ Oct. 23 2005,12:50)]point taken. #However remmeber while we were int he cb world we made friends and don't just act like bullies when we get our ham ticket (not saying you do #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ... I just know a few locally that have). #I still keep in cantact with friends ect. on 11m and also use it for family communication. #
Actually im more intetrested what the san jose del cabo tower was doing on 800mhz (on my dad's cell phone) then the taxis on channel 3.
I actually am also curious to know how come 10m seems dead i scan 26- 30 twice a day) and 11m open?..
This is not a Cb vs ham comment but just a note that 10 has been open the last few days.. might be time to get on... if I hear anyone i'll answer. #Anyone up for a qso? #email. #
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I have friends that I have met at many different times in my life, some involved in various aspects of radios and some not. I maintain contact with many and have lost contact with many. My point was not that CB and it's users should be outcasts, only that there are forums dedicated to CB and foums dedicated to amateur radio. You are free to post on both but it would seem more sensible to post CB threads to a CB forum and amateur radio topics to this or other amateur radio forum.
Besides, I would think you could reel in much more colorful answers on a CB forum. Technical knowledge is, in large part, a rumor with that crowd with the wrong story told and retold until it takes foot and becomes lore.
As for whoever being on 800 mhz in Mexico, not a big surprise. My understanding, right or wrong, is that there is little to no regulation down there and chances are somebody tapped into a tower to support either stolen or cloned cell phones. The only surprise I find with that is that there are still 800 mhz phones around. Seems most companies have gone higher in the spectrum and have abandoned 800. When I say my understanding of most companies using higher freqs that could just be that most around here now do and we are usually the last to see the newer stuff. We are the broken link in Nextel's almost coast to coast network (or at least were at one time)
Can't tell you much about recent activity on 10 or 11...I'm in the process of trying to sweet talk a squirel into dragging a piece of wire up to the top of a tree for me so I can get HF up and running soon. I even tried tying an acorn to the end of the wire but so far no luck.
Nextel uses 850mhz in all there sites today (was in one and saw the tramsmitters)
VE7NOT
10-24-2005, 05:44 PM
The time i was in baja was in the late 90s. I still heere alot of 800 mz activity on my scanner... mostly cellphones
w7lpn
10-27-2005, 02:11 AM
If ya wanna know more go to Quack shack CB forum. They all use their home-made #'s and openly talk about 500-1000 watts CB amps. Some of the Ham/radio techs offer to sell you uncertified stuff right on line.
n7rjd
10-27-2005, 02:55 AM
Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 23 2005,22:59)]One does not have to click on threads one does not have interest in.
And miss an oppurtunity to stir the pot? Surely you jest! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
And to answer your next question, I have no idea who Shirly is.
kb2vxa
10-28-2005, 07:14 PM
Hi guys,
CB or no CB you really SHOULD check out that Quack Shack, LO freakin' L!
KD6NIG
10-28-2005, 07:25 PM
Quote[/b] (kb2vxa @ Oct. 28 2005,12:14)]Hi guys,
CB or no CB you really SHOULD check out that Quack Shack, LO freakin' L!
Not on a work internet connection. I don't even want to think what kind of stuff could potentially be there.
Course, for the lazy, a link may help too http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
kf6rdn
10-30-2005, 05:45 AM
Quote[/b] (KE7DLG @ Oct. 26 2005,19:55)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 23 2005,22:59)]One does not have to click on threads one does not have interest in.
And miss an oppurtunity to stir the pot? Surely you jest! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
And to answer your next question, I have no idea who Shirly is.
Me either, but stop calling me Shirly! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
So where is this quack shack site?
VE7NOT
10-30-2005, 05:48 AM
Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 29 2005,22:45)]Quote[/b] (KE7DLG @ Oct. 26 2005,19:55)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 23 2005,22:59)]One does not have to click on threads one does not have interest in.
And miss an oppurtunity to stir the pot? Surely you jest! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
And to answer your next question, I have no idea who Shirly is.
Me either, but stop calling me Shirly! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
So where is this quack shack site?
Famous line from Airplane:
"Surley you can't be serious!"
"I am serious. And don't call me Shirley."
vk4xjb
10-30-2005, 06:49 AM
Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ Oct. 24 2005,11:50)]I actually am also curious to know how come 10m seems dead i scan 26- 30 twice a day) and 11m open?..
Simple.
The cbers are listening to band all the time so they catch the openings. Amateurs don't bother checking 10m because they just know it will be dead because of where we are in the solar cycle.
Always fun having an argument with another amateur about a contact I just had because they can not imagine that 10 would have opened up. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 24 2005,07:59)]I dunno, I kinda like 'sy's charlie chickenbander posts.
One does not have to click on threads one does not have interest in.
Let's have a poll and find out. Yeah. Let's do it again. Let's do it again. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif