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Ever wonder why there have always been exactly TEN Commandments? Was that because it was a nice round number? Do you think we need ONLY ten commandments to live by? I don't, Jack.
Here are TEN MORE Commandments. And I'm sure even THESE won't completely cover it, but it's a step in the right direction.
I, <span style='color:blue'>Pope Hiram Percy I</span> , do thus decree:
I) Thou shalt not tempt.
II) Thou shalt not hassle.
III) Thou shalt not constantly dredge up old grievances.
IV) Thou shalt not stick thy nose in other people's business.
V) Thou shalt not let other people tell thee what to think.
VI) Thou shalt not take out thy rotten mood on innocent third parties.
VII) Thou shalt not take advantage of persons stupider than thyself.
VIII) Thou shalt not ram thy religious beliefs down other people's throats.
IX) Thou shalt not be such a blowhard, ya big load.
X) Thou shalt not take life too seriously.
Amen. And FM.
KD6NIG
10-12-2005, 04:03 PM
You forgot XI: Thou shalt not whine!
(Sorry, saw this on a truck today that came into my facility)
I didn't forget it. I left it open for you to ADD, my son. Keep 'em coming, and I'll keep chiseling the stone tablets....
KA9VQF
10-12-2005, 04:24 PM
I once saw a skit on Monty Pythons Flying Circus where Moses was coming down from the mountain with the four tablets that God had burned the 30 commandments on. As he raised his arms to proclaim the thirty commandments and he dropped two of the tablets. They smashed to smithereens, he then announced the ten commandments.
Haw.... saw that too. Wonder which ones were lost?? My guess is our lives are JUST A LITTLE more fun these days because of the lost 20 commandments.
ac4ut
10-12-2005, 04:55 PM
Quote[/b] (KA9VQF @ Oct. 12 2005,09:24)]I once saw a skit on Monty Pythons Flying Circus where Moses was coming down from the mountain with the four tablets that God had burned the 30 commandments on. As he raised his arms to proclaim the thirty commandments and he dropped two of the tablets. They smashed to smithereens, he then announced the ten commandments.
Dudley moore did that in "Holly Moses".
Pretty funny movie.
"thou shall not give false s meter reports"
KA9VQF
10-12-2005, 05:03 PM
I sometimes wonder if the arc of the covenant was a real thing. The shards of the original 10 commandments are supposedly inside.
I know it is described in the bible and that some tech folks said if you built one out of the specified materials you would have a nice RF resonant chamber similar to a repeater duplexer cavity.
Also like the Indiana Jones movie about it.
"Thou shalt pass a code test". http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I thought it was History of the World Pt I where Moses had 3 tablets and dropped one.
Steve you know there's more than Ten. Must be at least 600. But who can remember them all?
ac4ut
10-12-2005, 05:10 PM
Quote[/b] (ac3p @ Oct. 12 2005,10:07)]"Thou shalt pass a code test". # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I thought it was History of the World Pt I where Moses had 3 tablets and dropped one.
Steve you know there's more than Ten. Must be at least 600. But who can remember them all?
Holly Moses Dudley Moore as Hershel the brother Of Moses. I am 90% sure.
"Thou shalt not covet 11 Meters"
w5klb
10-12-2005, 05:21 PM
Thou shalt not tune up thy communication device on an ongoing QSO.
Thou shalt not say "QSL" to #answer in the affirmative to any phone QSO unless thou needest a notice of reciept of such communication from thy brethern, lest they dub thee a lid.
KA9VQF
10-12-2005, 05:26 PM
Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Oct. 12 2005,10:21)]Thou shalt not tune up thy communication device on an ongoing QSO.
Thou shall not say "QSL" to #answer in the affirmative to any phone QSO unless thou needest a notice of reciept of such communication from thy brethern, lest they dub thee a lid.
I would have sworn that that commandment was “Thou shalt utter ‘QSL’ at the end and at the beginning of every transmission”.
Seems to be what I hear an awful lot.
N3ATS
10-12-2005, 05:30 PM
Thou shalt not deviate 5 KHz in either direction from said center USB frequency.
(Just heard this on 17 on Sunday.)
kb3mpu
10-12-2005, 05:42 PM
Interestingly enough, there is one commandment in the new testament that makes all the others pointless. It's "Love thy neighbour as thyself". If you TRULY did that, you would never have to worry about the other commandments, because you would never violate them.
w5klb
10-12-2005, 05:49 PM
Quote[/b] (KA9VQF @ Oct. 12 2005,10:26)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Oct. 12 2005,10:21)]Thou shalt not tune up thy communication device on an ongoing QSO.
Thou shall not say "QSL" to #answer in the affirmative to any phone QSO unless thou needest a notice of reciept of such communication from thy brethern, lest they dub thee a lid.
I would have sworn that that commandment was “Thou shalt utter ‘QSL’ at the end and at the beginning of every transmission”.
Seems to be what I hear an awful lot.
I won't talk to someone who always says "QSL" UNLESS he or she wants QSL card. I hear it every damn day in this part of the world mostly from Techs. I don't want to appear like I'm picking on our Techs, but this is NOT good Amateur Practice. It seems you could replace "QSL" #with "10-4" and have the same effect.
Whatever happen to "yes" or "I agree"? Do some of you all think saying "QSL" in answer to EVERTHING is a "cool expression" to say over the air? Have any of you who use "QSL" ever looked it up to see what it really means? Do you want to be classified as a lid?
I think Pope Hiram Percy I needs an to issue an edict on this matter and the punishment should be bannishment to the 11 meter ban. To recieve "absolution" from this "radio hell" you should recite the "Amateur's Creed" verbatim 40 times.
Just a suggestion for His Radio Holiness. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
N3ATS
10-12-2005, 05:57 PM
How about Roger Fo', or Roger Dee! I heard what you said when you said it, or Forty-two! Or even the classic, Fo-ten!
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WA5KRP
10-12-2005, 06:10 PM
Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Oct. 12 2005,12:49)]Quote[/b] (KA9VQF @ Oct. 12 2005,10:26)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Oct. 12 2005,10:21)]Thou shalt not tune up thy communication device on an ongoing QSO.
Thou shall not say "QSL" to #answer in the affirmative to any phone QSO unless thou needest a notice of reciept of such communication from thy brethern, lest they dub thee a lid.
I would have sworn that that commandment was “Thou shalt utter ‘QSL’ at the end and at the beginning of every transmission”.
Seems to be what I hear an awful lot.
Whatever happen to "yes" or "I agree"? Do some of you all think saying "QSL" in answer to EVERTHING is a "cool expression" to say over the air? Have any of you who use "QSL" ever looked it up to see what it really means? Do you want to be classified as a lid?
I think Pope Hiram Percy I needs an to issue an edict on this matter and the punishment should be bannishment to the 11 meter ban.
And the choir raised its voice singing to Heaven and Earth, "Hallelujah, Amen!"
Get busy, Popedaddy!
WA5KRP
Texas
w5klb
10-12-2005, 06:26 PM
Quote[/b] (N3ATS @ Oct. 12 2005,10:57)]How about Roger Fo', or Roger Dee! #I heard what you said when you said it, or Forty-two! #Or even the classic, Fo-ten!
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As a former CBer myself, I thought "forty-two" was the same thing as "10-42", reporting a traffic accident. Of course, this was in the day when a license was required for CB. My, my, my, how things have changed.
When getting into a new hobby, you do what you can to "fit in" with a group. As far as Amateur Radio is concerned, this means giving up some poor communication pratices and LEARNING some good ones. It may mean giving up "yer ol' two-way" altogether. This is what I did, and I haven't regetted this for one second.
ai4ep
10-12-2005, 06:34 PM
" thou shalt not ask for a radio check on a 2 meter repeater ".
"thou shalt not tie up a 2 meter repeater when simplex will suffice " ( reference to another thread ).
"thou shalt not attempt to sell, swap or trade off a piece of any type of electronic gear for more than you gave for it ".
"thou shalt have no fear of asking questions".
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W5HTW
10-12-2005, 06:36 PM
Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Oct. 12 2005,10:49)]Seems to be what I hear an awful lot.
I won't talk to someone who always says "QSL" UNLESS he or she wants QSL card. I hear it every damn day in this part of the world mostly from Techs. I don't want to appear like I'm picking on our Techs, but this is NOT good Amateur Practice. It seems you could replace "QSL" with "10-4" and have the same effect.[/QUOTE]
That is precisely where it came from. The late-80s migration of CBers to ham radio brought the "10-4" as every other word. Of course, they were chastised for that, and they switched it to "Roger" and eventually to "QSL."
The conversation before ham radio:
Ay, ten-four, there bubba, you gonna drive that truck to the dance tomorrow, ten four?
10-4, ranger bob, I'm gonna have that truck all ready to rip and roar, ten-four?
Ten-four, Bubba, you got them tires all fixed now ten four?
Ten-four, Ranger Bob, got them all patched and on the road, ten four?
Now just substitute QSL for each ten four above and you have the NEW ham radio.
A few are still stuck with "Roger." For that, substitute "Roger" for each ten-four above and you have the nearly-new ham radio.
Like some others, I won't talk to anyone who uses either of those CB-style crutches on ham radio. Except, of course, for "R" on CW!
Ed
WA5KRP
10-12-2005, 06:41 PM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 12 2005,13:34)]"thou shalt not attempt to sell, swap or trade off a piece of any type of electronic gear for more than you gave for it ".
So that's where you're coming from: free enterprise has no place in amateur radio. If that's how things worked, who would bother to market radio gear?
NUTS!
WA5KRP
Texas
Quote[/b] (ac4ut @ Oct. 12 2005,13:10)]Quote[/b] (ac3p @ Oct. 12 2005,10:07)]"Thou shalt pass a code test". http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I thought it was History of the World Pt I where Moses had 3 tablets and dropped one.
Steve you know there's more than Ten. Must be at least 600. But who can remember them all?
Holly Moses Dudley Moore as Hershel the brother Of Moses. I am 90% sure.
"Thou shalt not covet 11 Meters"
Thou shalt not freeband on 10 either. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
ac4ut
10-12-2005, 07:27 PM
Honor thy father and thy "motherboard".
W5KLB sez:
Quote[/b] ]I won't talk to someone who always says "QSL" UNLESS he or she wants QSL card. I hear it every damn day in this part of the world mostly from Techs. I don't want to appear like I'm picking on our Techs, but this is NOT good Amateur Practice. It seems you could replace "QSL" with "10-4" and have the same effect.
Whatever happen to "yes" or "I agree"? Do some of you all think saying "QSL" in answer to EVERTHING is a "cool expression" to say over the air? Have any of you who use "QSL" ever looked it up to see what it really means? Do you want to be classified as a lid?
As you know, this is a long standing pet peeve of mine too. I first heard it in the late 1970's after taking a few years off for college. I wondered what all this "QSL" crap was. I had never heard it from '70 to '74.... Came back in '79 and it was all over the place!
There's a local here in town who starts EVERY (and I truthfully mean EVERY) transmission on the two meter repeater with "Yeeeeaaahh, QSL."
I was too late to put a stop to THAT gem. Now you know why I stand up and wave my arms whenever some newboid calls ham (or amateur) radio "HAM" (in caps, like an acronym). There's no HAM acronym. End of story.
K8PJS
10-12-2005, 10:28 PM
Ever seen the movie "History of the world part 1" by Mel Brooks (I think)? There were three stone tablets and the third one got dropped so that is why there are 10 commandments. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ai4ep
10-12-2005, 10:50 PM
KRP...the words AMATUER RADIO is not in my post.....it sez " electronic gear ".
THANK YOU for letting me remind you of that point. Your own post let ME know of your intentions.
AI4EP
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K8EEI
10-12-2005, 11:02 PM
I guess I am a capitalist because I bought some ham gear at a yard sale and tripled my money on eBay and the OM's loved it & I thought I was doing a good thing , Martha .
I'm going to "ham hell " http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Number ? : Thou shall not posteth more than 1 post a day on QRZ (unless you haveth no lifeth ) HI HIeth http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
ac4ut
10-12-2005, 11:09 PM
Quote[/b] (K8EEI @ Oct. 12 2005,16:02)]I guess I am a capitalist because I bought some ham gear at a yard sale and tripled my money on eBay and the OM's loved it & I thought I was doing a good thing , Martha .
# #I'm going to "ham hell " http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
#Number ? : Thou shall not posteth more than 1 post a day on QRZ (unless you haveth no lifeth ) HI HIeth http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Suum Quique!
ai4ep
10-12-2005, 11:13 PM
One post per day ?
How about if some one uses the ones that some one else does not use ?
Great idea !!
btw...is it ok to LISTEN to your amateur radio ( 2 meter handheld, hf rig, etc ) while tapping on the keyboard ...or is THAT against the rules too ?
KA4DPO
10-13-2005, 01:41 AM
Yeah, I really hate that QSL stuff to. Ten Fo?
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kc2kde
10-13-2005, 02:28 AM
Mine would be:
Thou shall not say use the word "handle" when referring to "name".
Quote[/b] (kc2kde @ Oct. 11 2005,20:28)]Mine would be:
Thou shall not say use the word "handle" when referring to "name".
"Handle" for name has been around as long as microphones have.
Dave
W2ILP
10-13-2005, 02:49 AM
Unlike the Constitution of the U.S.A., no one can add amendments to the 10 Commandments...unless they are inspired by God....and if there is a God ...God only knows what the heck the amendments might say! It would be a paradox to write amendments to the 10 Commandments, without breaking them by using the name of God to do so in God's name for God's sake.. We would have to delete at least one of the Commandments to prevent such a paradox.
All we can do is add a sequel to the movie "The Ten Commandments", because Cecil B. DeMille is dead. It could add an amendment to give Heston the right to keep and bear arms that didn't exist in the first movie when he was supposed to be Moses.
Remember guys THE TEN COMMANDMENTS WERE WRITTEN IN STONE.
w2ilp (I Like Parchment)
WA5KRP
10-13-2005, 04:25 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 12 2005,17:50)]KRP...the words AMATUER RADIO is not in my post.....it sez " electronic gear ".
http://deephousepage.com/smilies/conf45.gif #Damn sure blew that one, didn't I?
WA5KRP
Texas
WA5KRP
10-13-2005, 04:29 AM
Quote[/b] (AB3BK @ Oct. 12 2005,21:47)]Quote[/b] (kc2kde @ Oct. 11 2005,20:28)]Mine would be:
Thou shall not say use the word "handle" when referring to "name".
"Handle" for name has been around as long as microphones have.
"Handle" was a benevolent term used among amateurs for years. #It really chagrinned me to see it hijacked by CB yahoos in the 70's, forcing amateurs to drop the term so as not to be associated with CB ops.
A perfectly good word got ruined by a pack of monkeys.
WA5KRP
Texas
w7lpn
10-13-2005, 04:48 AM
Quote[/b] (KA9VQF @ Oct. 12 2005,09:24)]I once saw a skit on Monty Pythons Flying Circus where Moses was coming down from the mountain with the four tablets that God had burned the 30 commandments on. As he raised his arms to proclaim the thirty commandments and he dropped two of the tablets. They smashed to smithereens, he then announced the ten commandments.
Mel Brooks did that too.
w7lpn
10-13-2005, 04:50 AM
Quote[/b] (W2ILP @ Oct. 12 2005,19:49)]Unlike the Constitution of the U.S.A., no one can add amendments to the 10 Commandments...unless they are inspired by God....and if there is a God ...God only knows what the heck the amendments might say! # It would be a paradox to write amendments to the 10 Commandments, without breaking them by using the name of God to do so in God's name for God's sake.. #We would have to delete at least one of the Commandments to prevent such a paradox.
All we can do is add a sequel to the movie "The Ten Commandments", because Cecil B. DeMille is dead. #It could add an amendment to give Heston the right to keep and bear arms that didn't exist in the first movie when he was supposed to be Moses.
Remember guys THE TEN COMMANDMENTS WERE WRITTEN IN STONE.
w2ilp #(I Like Parchment)
I think we ought not mess with them until we get them right. Then HE might add some more.
ai4ep
10-13-2005, 05:13 AM
Yep...we are still having trouble keeping the first ten...not to mention the others added later on. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
k9kxq
10-13-2005, 05:22 AM
Moses had only room for 10 on the tablet, now that's the rest of the story... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
kxq
KB3KBR
10-13-2005, 05:34 AM
what about "rogern' that"?
W2LYS
10-13-2005, 05:52 AM
Quote[/b] ]Steve you know there's more than Ten. Must be at least 600. But who can remember them all?
That is correct, there are about 600. In the Tanakh, the Jewish Bible I'm sure it's put out somewhere.
I found out that I have some Jewish ancestry, even a Rabbi in Jamaica and did some research on Judaism... it is an interesting religion.
K8ERV
10-13-2005, 10:15 AM
Only one is really needed "Thou Shalt Not"
TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
G8ADD
10-13-2005, 11:00 AM
The first additional commandment that I ever heard, about 50 years ago, was
#11 Thou shalt not get caught.
73
Brian G8ADD
G8ADD
10-13-2005, 11:02 AM
Quote[/b] (K8ERV @ Oct. 13 2005,03:15)]Only one is really needed "Thou Shalt Not"
TOM K8ERV #Montrose Colo
...."Thou Shalt Not" on the wall....
Undermilk Wood by Dylan Thomas
73 again
Brian G8ADD
kf6rdn
10-13-2005, 12:18 PM
thou shalt not speak over 5 mins on without taking a breath or actually having something significant to say for that amount of time.
KD6NIG
10-13-2005, 02:30 PM
Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 13 2005,05:18)]thou shalt not speak over 5 mins on without taking a breath or actually having something significant to say for that amount of time.
Subpart: If thou own a repeater, thou should set a 3 minute timeout timer.
kf6rdn
10-13-2005, 02:38 PM
Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Oct. 13 2005,07:30)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 13 2005,05:18)]thou shalt not speak over 5 mins on without taking a breath or actually having something significant to say for that amount of time.
Subpart: If thou own a repeater, thou should set a 3 minute timeout timer.
Amen!
Haven't done repeaters in a while, but remember some mobile round tables, in which I'd arrive before having a go, due to some windbags.
kb9lei
10-14-2005, 12:21 AM
From "History of the World, Part 1"--'I give to you these fifteen, boom, TEN commandments!"
If you haven't seen the movie, rent it, fast forward to something resembling DeMille's classic and just appreciate Mel Brook's timing on the line.
Should be required for any of the Greatest Movie lines of all times compliations