Glenn Beck: "Hurricane survivors are scumbags."

[k4kyv]

Nationally syndicated Clear Channel radio host Glenn Beck referred to survivors of Hurricane Katrina who remained in New Orleans as "scumbags." Also, after acknowledging that nobody "in their right mind is going to say this out loud," Beck attacked victims of the disaster in general and the families of victims of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, saying: "I didn't think I could hate victims faster than the 9-11 victims."

Listen to the audio clip at
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509090003

[w5klb]

Troll'n, Troll'n, Troll'n...

[KG4CGC]

Who the heck is Glenn Beck?

[kd5rpo]

I am glad he is not carried on the Clear Channel stations here.

[WA5KRP]

KYV,


The message was obvious within in the context of his monologue:

Quote[/b] ]It's just a small percentage of those who were left in New Orleans, or who decided to stay in New Orleans, and they're getting all the attention. It's exactly like the 9-11 victims' families. There's about 10 of them that are spoiling it for everybody.

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Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Sep. 13 2005,21:46)]Troll'n, Troll'n, Troll'n...
Keep them dawgies trolll'n... Trolllhiiiide!

Sorry.. Couldn't resist, of course I prefer the "Dead Kennedys" version of that song.

[ai4ep]

Does this have any thing to do with truck drivers using 10 meter radios to transmit illegal information with no license ?

[KD6NIG]

"Keep Trollin, Trollin, Trollin"

With the amount of hot air expended on America's commerical airwaves daily, I'm surprised the environmentalists don't blame them for global warming http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Sep. 14 2005,07:06)]Does this have any thing to do with truck drivers using 10 meter radios to transmit illegal information #with no license ?
Nope; not a thing.

[w5klb]

Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ Sep. 13 2005,22:56)]KYV,


The message was obvious within in the context of his monologue:

Quote[/b] ]It's just a small percentage of those who were left in New Orleans, or who decided to stay in New Orleans, and they're getting all the attention. It's exactly like the 9-11 victims' families. There's about 10 of them that are spoiling it for everybody.

Isn't it amazing how half truths work? The liberal propaganda machine works great on that website.

Nothing like spreading a little disinformation. It works great for the uninformed "prols", right KYV?

Troll'n, Troll'n, Troll'n...

[K0RGR]

Now wait just a minute... go read the much longer quotation from his monologue before you go saying he was quoted out of context by the biased liberals. If you say one sentence to cover your tracks and then spout hate for 20 minutes afterwards, you are not excused. He was raving about the people in the Astrodome to get their ATM cards - not about a small number left in New Orleans.

Yesterday, a friend of mine posted something from a neocon blog about how in 1927 there was an even bigger hurricane in Louisiana than Katrina, and that there was absolutely no federal help at all, and the people came out just fine. Moral: people don't need federal assistance in disasters. Well, that sounds pretty good,doesn't it?

Unfortunately, a little research points out the real story. In 1927 there was a terrible flood, not a hurricane, that affected the whole lower Mississippi valley, particularly New Orleans. Hundreds of thousands were homeless. According to historians, large numbers of blacks were forced to repair the failing levees at gunpoint - those who refused were shot. Things have changed a bit since 1927, but how much do you think that history might have been involved in what is happening now?

[KB9YCO]

Glenn Beck is an idiot. All of these staunch party types on radio (Rush 'pill poppin' Limbaugh, Al Franken, you name it), in either direction, offer nothing of value and continue only to divide with their dismissiveness and their unrealistic black and white vision of the world.
We can only hope that something happens to Mr. Beck where he needs some help someday so that he can feel what it's like to be helpless, homeless, and even more broke than you already where. It's easy for him to philosophize about an entire group that really knows nothing about when he's far from the trouble. I've heard his show before, he's a narrow-minded extremist with no F'in clue. Just my not necessarily humble opinion.

[k6pme]

Well said YCO.

[WZ4I]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Sep. 14 2005,07:06)]Does this have any thing to do with truck drivers using 10 meter radios to transmit illegal information with no license ?
No. But I bet it could turn into "how good Echolink works during an emergency" thread.

[n2nh]

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[N8CPA]

I listened to that show. #The quotes are out of context. You really had to listen to whole show. #Oh--I get it! #Because Beck lists to starboard, he's evil incarnate--right!

His comments refered specifically to the scumbag level of any large group of people--from which the survivors and evacuees of Katrina are not exempt. #Scumbags are scumbags regardless of economic status, color, or whether or not they have just survived Kat 4. What prompted the comment was the fights among some people waiting in line for the relief cards. He had commented previously in another show about scumbag looters, and scumbag finger pointer politicians.

Yes, there were scumbags waiting in line for the cards at the Astrodome. #Some scumbags weren't even from Katrina affected areas, but local scumbags just trying to hustle and scam some money. Just as one can encounter such scumbags waiting to get concert tickets, or to pay for groceries, on the freeway, at the golf course or anywhere else you go. #Like any other social current of life, surviving a massive disaster can evoke the angels, or conjure the demons among us. #His comments were about the latter, not ALL Katrina survivors.

Do any of Beck's critics ever mention that he is also sponsoring a fundraiser for hurricane relief for the benefit of the vast majority of the displaced? #Probably not! #And might the people who distort what someone was really saying by out of context citation also be scumbags? #Definitely! # # #
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Now if you want to talk about scumbags--how about Sean Penn! #Mr. macho, preachy actor showed up in NOLA with a leaky flatboat and a posse of 4 or 5 production staff to document, not rescues, but Sean Penn doing the rescues. #If he had really wanted to lend a helping hand, he would not strain scarce resources by bringing additional staff. #He could probably provide even greater assistance by staying home and contributing some of his personal wealth. #But, nope, that would not provide photo ops of Sean Penn performing rescues. Personally, I wish that leak had been discovered a little later. Penn covered in cess would be worthy of documentation.

[W8EFA]

N8CPA - explain this then
Quote[/b] ]saying: "I didn't think I could hate victims faster than the 9-11 victims."


The guy is a jerk with no Empathy for people that are poor, or have had a loss, or are different than him.

He is the Scumbag!

[N8CPA]

It depends on how empathy is defined. He's just selectively empathetic like the rest of us. There are times when the absence of empathy might be a virtue. Too much empathy is certainly a vice.

He appears to perceive the impoversihed in, more or less, the same way I do. i.e. He distinguishes between poverty of circumstance and poverty of consequence. He is full of empathy for those whose poverty derives from circumstance and lauds those who strive to overcome it. As for poverty of consequence--laziness, etc--just desserts!
I'll more than happily lend a hand up when I can, but I will never cede handout after handout. I can't afford too--first a fish, then some tackle. I even have some relatives I treat in that manner. Between my wife and me, I'm barely able to manage our own circumstances. We can't take on anymore.

On a related note, I used to wonder why I always see the same guy at the freeway exit for the past year or so. You'd think that by now, someone would have allowed him to work for food one time, found in him a worthy employee, and hired him permanently. But no, he is there day after day because he makes money holding that sign because there are so many willing to give once. "Will work for food" has become his probably quite lucrative employment. At least he has found his economic niche making people feel better about themselves through misguided charity.
Maybe I could duplicate his success. I'll park my wheelchair near an exit and hold a sign: "Sad life story. Cry with me and make me rich!" Or "I really need a cruise [IC7800, perhaps?]." There's a money maker!

Like Beck, one or two of the 9-11 families exhausted my capacity for compassion when they exploited that circumstance for extra wealth and face time--usually at the urging of some ambulance chaser. I certainly noticed it before Beck said anything about it. For a while, I felt bad because I thought I was the only one who saw it that way. I'm glad he voiced it. I also remember scumbags well removed from the attack who tried to scam for some of the giveaway--just like they're doing with Katrina. May they rot in jail for a time, then live the remainder of their worthless lives in poverty of consequence. The unfortunate part of the cycle is that parents' poverty of consequence is poverty of circumstance for children. Pray they learn to work their way out of that way of life.

Gotta go now. I'm listening to the evil paragon right now. He has a weekly segment wherein he calls convenience stores in the cities of the NFL Game of the Week teams. He then asks whomever answers the phone simple questions. Almost invariably, the team from the city with the highest number of wrong answers loses the football game of the week. He calls the game, "More On Trivia." He calls it that because calling it "Moron Trivia" would be too insensitive--and you say he lacks empathy and compassion.

[W8EFA]

Quote[/b] ]He calls the game, "More On Trivia." He calls it that because calling it "Moron Trivia" would be too insensitive--and you say he lacks empathy and compassion.

Gee exactly the kind of game I would expect from him. Let's go looking for dumb people that we can make fun of and thus make us feel superior since we have issues.

I would define Empathy as trying to "step into another person's shoes". Maybe Mr. Beck wouldn't be so smart if he hadn't gotten a proper education by being lucky enough to be born into the right economic situation.

What would have happened if God decided mr Beck be born black, in poverty, bad parents, no education, etc. Would he be making the call (unlikely), or receiving the call (likely).

Mr. Beck doesn't like the complaint's of some 911 victims but of course he didn't lose a wife, brother etc. so he doesn't know how he would react with such a traumatic experience.

[N8CPA]

Beck has talked about his childhood a number of times--including dealing with the suicide of his drug addicted and alcoholic mother. He has a child with cerebral palsy, whom pediatricians claimed should not be recusitated yet again after a series of neonatal strokes. #So, he's not exactly a stranger to negative circumstances. [Just two examples.] #He has also talked about his admiration for Frederick Douglass and Dr. King, and laments how their messages are not implemented, while Sharpton and Jackson are all too publicized spouting their falsehoods. #

He does not lack compassion. #What he lacks is a perception that creating victims is good for anyone in the gimme and handout cycle. #It fosters dependency and social parasitism. #It stifles the soul, enslaves the spirit, and wastes minds that could be prospering on their own while draining our pockets.

And who does not feel superior to someone else in some context? #Those who claim they don't are self-righteously delusional. #Such an attitude trait is human nature. The most common noun translated among languages is the equivalent of "fool" or "moron." #They are literally everywhere. #Were it not so, the likes of Tina Fey, Al Franken, Allen Colmes, Kathy Sullivan, Genine Garafalo would not have jobs, neither would Michael Moore. Have any of them ever said anything funny that wasn't at someone else's expense? #Shouldn't they be a little less selectively empathetic, as well?

Glenn Beck is a radio comedian, another village idiot in the aethereal town square pointing and laughing, that's all.

[W8EFA]

Well I will be honest, I am judging by what has been posted here, I have not heard him. It is all in the Context - Jay Leno does the same thing to get a joke, but doesn't do it with mean intentions at all and doesn't do it to humiliate.
Somehow I get the feeling if I did listen to Beck it would be political, arrogant, and mean-spirited.

[n2nh]

Funny I never heard of him.

'Till now that is. I suspect his Karma will not be good...
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