Al Qaeda vows to Attack Los Angeles

[KE7DFP]

To day's recent Al Qaeda tape threatens that L.A. and #Melbourne Ausrtralia our to be hit next. It was released as 9-11 ceremonies were being observed in New York. #The spokesperson in the tapes is Adam Gadahn. #Raised on a goat farm in Riverside, Ca., and latter moved to Orange County to live with his grandparents. #He was recruited at the Orange #County Islamic #Center and is now helping Americas enemies to destroy us. #Here is his own words on convewrsion to Islam. # http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/newmuslims/yahiye.html

[KB9YCO]

I saw the Yahoo news article on this nitwit, another brainwashed religious zealot. Gotta love that old timey religion eh?
"My god has a bigger d#@* than your god" George Carlin

[W7DJM]

Well, let's just quote a little of "his" musings, and see if he believes and practices what he preaches.


On the one hand, he has apparrently joined the "destroy the infidels" crowd.

On the other hand, right off his own web page, we have such rambilings as:

"In the Name of Allah, most Compassionate, most Merciful"


"My father was raised agnostic or atheist, but he became a believer in One God when he picked up a Bible"

"acquainting me with fundamentalist Christianity. It was an eye-opening experience. Setting aside the blind dogmatism and charismatic wackiness,"

"In the meantime, I had become obsessed with demonic Heavy Metal music"

"Having been around Muslims in my formative years, I knew well that they were not the bloodthirsty, barbaric terrorists that the news media and the televangelists paint them to be"


So, now who's wacky?

[KC9ECI]

Just another mentally unstable idiot, with no discipine, motivation or purpose looking for attention.

[KE7DFP]

Apparently he was Jewish (Pearlman), but his Dad became a Jesus freak and in the 60s Psychedelica Rock scene. Dad changed their name to GADAHN, which means "Gideon."#He grew up on a goat farm where he slit the goats' throats himself. #He was a hard core Enviromentalist and Heavy Metal Devotee. After his Jesus Freak upbringing he himself converted to Islam, and fell under the spell of the local radical Iman at the Orange County Islamic Center. #But isn't that how it always starts? #One minute you're saving the whales while slitting goats throats to "Alice With Nails", and the next minute your in Pakistan, planning on slaughtering your fellow Americans. #There's a good article in "La City Beat" that I couldn't get to link. #But you can find it by linking his name tio that Newspaper in a google.

[w8amd]

Quote[/b] (KE7DFP @ Sep. 11 2005,16:39)]One minute you're saving the whales while slitting goats throats to "Alice With Nails", and the next minute your in Pakistan, planning on slaughtering your fellow Americans.
Ah yes the typical metal head goat farmer to radical Islamic story. Happens so often in today's ever changing world. A heart-warming saga that should stand as inspiration to aspiring zealots world wide. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[KE7DFP]

A Regular Horatio Alger Story! Orange County Boy makes good!

[k6pme]

Doesn't that fit into the realm of making "terrorist threats"?

Somebody get a rope.

[KI6ADA]

Hey, was he preaching in the Crystal Palace? :rock:

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (KG6QQL @ Sep. 11 2005,19:41)]Doesn't that fit into the realm of making "terrorist threats"?
Yes it certainly is and if they let him get away with it, it is because they are afraid of his ties to Radical Islam. They are afraid they(we) will be labeled as racists. If anti-terror laws can be applied to drug dealers/manufacturers they I don't see why they can't use the laws for what they were intended for in the first place. If they don't lock this guy and his cohorts up then I don't believe they will lock anyone up who makes terror threats on US soil.

[ai4ep]

What about all the high school folks who get mad at their teacher /principal and make threats ?

[ai4ep]

It is a living wonder that no one has been driving

by a Friday night high school football game and shot out some of the stadium lights with a rifle / shotgun......or flown low over a stadium in a small airplane and threw out a bucket of $#!+ out the window....or other assorted stunts.

Pranks are one thing, threats are another. But these days, the line in the sand is not seen too easily.

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Sep. 11 2005,21:22)]What about all the high school folks who get mad at their teacher /principal and make #threats ?
That would be a local matter not a threat of terrorism like attacking Los Angeles. I'm sure you could find an ambious prosecuter/D.A. who could try the child as a terrorist.

[KE7DFP]

Adam Gadahn isn't making childish pranks, he's now a member of Al Qaeda and is appearing in their Video Communiques. Yes he can be prosecuted, there is an FBI most wanted poster out on him. They've been looking for him since he fleds the country abpout three years ago..

[k6bbc]

Perhaps we would have caught him by now if we hadn't taken that slight detour into Iraq where there were no terrorist at the time.

[KE7DFP]

You're kidding, right? Besides, he joined Al Qaeda after we went into that hotbed of terrorism.

[KE7DFP]

The feds are diffently willing to prosecute as seen here in the FBI site: # http://www.fbi.gov/terrorinfo/gadahn.htm

[KF3EG]

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 11 2005,21:11)]Perhaps we would have caught him by now if we hadn't taken that slight detour into Iraq where there were no terrorist at the time.
Prozac shipments running slow to the left coast?

[KI6ADA]

Quote[/b] (KF3EG @ Sep. 11 2005,22:24)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 11 2005,21:11)]Perhaps we would have caught him by now if we hadn't taken that slight detour into Iraq where there were no terrorist at the time.
Prozac shipments running slow to the left coast?
heheheheheheheee http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif can i beat your horse http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[ac3p]

Prima Facie evidence of Treason as outlined in the Consitution.

[ai4ep]

If this dude is so bad, why does he hide most of his face ?

George Bush dont
Bin Laden dont
your governor does not
the devil doesnt
god does not

why does this dude hide his face ?

kid must still have acne..that is it !!

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I mean, how can you take seriously some one with acne and black heads all over their face ?

[n7rjd]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Sep. 12 2005,00:43)]If this dude is so bad, why does he hide most of his face ?


Bin Laden dont
No, but he should. Let's face it this dude looks like Jafarr from the Aladdin movie.

[W2ILP]

Please read my post about Adam Gadahn in the QRZ thread titled "Astounding Prophesies". It really belongs in this thread.

w2ilp (Ignore Lunatic Prophesies?)

[WB2WIK]

As a resident of Los Angeles, I'm not worried.

One thing imbicilic "Gadahn" fails to realize is that a "dirty bomb" dropped on L.A. would improve our air quality. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KD6NIG]

Quote[/b] (KF3EG @ Sep. 11 2005,22:24)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 11 2005,21:11)]Perhaps we would have caught him by now if we hadn't taken that slight detour into Iraq where there were no terrorist at the time.
Prozac shipments running slow to the left coast?
You could be right-they are detaining a few from Lodi, Ca also, so it appears to be a California thing at the moment.

[KE7DFP]

It's 2:00 PM Pacific Time. Just heard LA has had a massive power outage. It being a cool day with little power demands, I have to ask, Has it begun? How about it guys. Anyone in LA who can tell us if Al Qaeda has started an attack?

[n0ov]

Nope. Folks in Enron need to up prices so they can pay for the jet fuel to their next vacation spot

[N3ATS]

So where's Bin Laden?

Just missed him again? Aww shucks... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[K9STH]

DFP:

It was reported on the news just a few minutes ago that the California "black out" was started by a power company employee who cut the wrong wire. Then when he tried to correct the situation he literally "got the wires crossed" which started a chain reaction.

I don't have any information as to what was actually done, but getting the phases crossed in a 3-phase system is pretty easy to do and can certainly cause serious problems.

Our middle eastern "friends" were not involved.

Glen, K9STH

[KC9ECI]

Quote[/b] (K9STH @ Sep. 12 2005,15:52)]Our middle eastern "friends" were not involved.

Glen, K9STH
Just what they want you to think Glen.

[KE7DFP]

Quote[/b] (K9STH @ Sep. 12 2005,14:52)]DFP:

It was reported on the news just a few minutes ago that the California "black out" was started by a power company employee who cut the wrong wire. #Then when he tried to correct the situation he literally "got the wires crossed" which started a chain reaction.

I don't have any information as to what was actually done, but getting the phases crossed in a 3-phase system is pretty easy to do and can certainly cause serious problems.

Our middle eastern "friends" were not involved.

Glen, K9STH
How do you know it wasn't a Muslim employee, fresh out of prison and on a goverment rehab grant, who "cut the line"?. The other 4 guys in Lodi just arrested, converted to Wahabism in a California prison. (Another taxpayer program making a DIFFERENCE). One of their schemes was to hit powerplants. Couldn't this have been a serious attempt at sabotage the Power Conglomerates are trying to keep from us?

[k6bbc]

Come on guys. Wouldn't you like to take a tire iron to this guy. What a punk #######.

[KG4CGC]

So now everytime the lights go out are you guys gonna blame an Arab?

[k6bbc]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Sep. 12 2005,19:34)]So now everytime the lights go out are you guys gonna blame an Arab?
No, one out of four times we'll blame Bush.

[N6WK]

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2005,03:50)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Sep. 12 2005,19:34)]So now everytime the lights go out are you guys gonna blame an Arab?
No, one out of four times we'll blame Bush.
Well Actually,
I'll Blame Bush at least three out of four times.
He is probably to blame more then 3 out of 4, but I'll be generous and give up a little for doubt.
I am sure that there are few things that are the fault of our Enemys, But I'll bet there are more that are the blame of our own Government.
Tell me the truth, Do you believe our Government is the MOST honest in the world??
I personally believe it is one of the most DISHONEST in the world!

Gordon

[KG4CGC]

Honestly? No more dishonest than any other dishonest government. No, China is more dishonest.

[k6bbc]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Sep. 12 2005,20:08)]Honestly? No more dishonest than any other dishonest government. No, China is more dishonest.
How about Saudi Arabia?

[KG4CGC]

You saw the President holding hands with him, what do you think?

[KE7DFP]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Sep. 12 2005,19:59)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2005,03:50)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Sep. 12 2005,19:34)]So now everytime the lights go out are you guys gonna blame an Arab?
No, one out of four times we'll blame Bush.
Well Actually,
#I'll Blame Bush at least three out of four times.
He is probably to blame more then 3 out of 4, but I'll be generous and give up a little for doubt.
# #I am sure that there are #few things that are the fault of our Enemys, But I'll bet there are more that are the blame of our own Government.
# Tell me the truth, Do you believe our Government is the MOST honest in the world??
#I personally believe it is one of the most DISHONEST in the world!

Gordon
We're wearing you down Gordon. This time next year you'll be to 50/50 Bush's Fault. We have can wait as long as it takes: how sweet will be the fall. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W2ILP]

I blame the training that the electrician who cut the wire(s) received from the power company. Technical training is often lacking in the U.S. I dunno if they now have problems like this in India or China. I bet if they do have problems it is not due to poorly trained workers.

Enuf sed.

w2ilp (Instruct Lighting Providers)

[KE7DFP]

Come on, think about. #Do you really think some worker just happened to cut a wire that 2 million people needed for electricity? #Some body's trying to lie to us about this. Sounds to me more like Al Qaeda testing our reaction time to an electrical failure. Studying the effect on first responders and traffic grids. #Of course, the real shutdown will be done by hacking into the powerplants controls through Cyberspace, just before the main attack.

[KI6ADA]

Ok, why are we getting videos again? How come every world known terrorist leader has received training from the US Military?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[KE7DFP]

Didn't know Ben Laden had. This guy Adam Gadahn got his training at the local mosque in Santa Ana, California and Pakistan.

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (KE7DFP @ Sep. 12 2005,20:09)]Come on, think about. #Do you really think some worker just happened to cut a wire that 2 million people needed for electricity? #Some body's trying to lie to us about this. Sounds to me more like Al Qaeda testing our reaction time to an electrical failure. Studying the effect on first responders and traffic grids. #Of course, the real shutdown will be done by hacking into the powerplants controls through Cyberspace, just before the main attack.
Oh, COME ON!

Are you going to ascribe everything that goes wrong to Al Qaeda?

This is the same kind of stuff that happened in the '50's with the commie scares.

I think some people just like conspiracies and the rush of being "scared". Go to Magic Mountain and ride a roller coaster if you want to be "scared".

Do you worry about the boogeyman underneath your bed, DFP?

Dave WX7B

[W2LYS]

Quote[/b] ]"Alice With Nails"

I think the bands are messed up.... don't you mean "Alice in Chains" and/or "Nine Inch Nails"?

[KE7DFP]

I'm (was) being sarcastic Dave! #I knew there would be someone out there, who gets a rush jumping on people for every little comment. #I never in my wildest imagination thought it would be you though.! #Which emoticon means sarcasm? #I'll use it next time just to deprive you of your "rush". # # 73s Dave, sorry about the humor (hi Hi Hi) #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif (I'm kidding right now in case it's not coming through the keyboard.

[K9STH]

A number of years ago I had to have a "licensed" electrician install the wiring for a 7.5 hp compressor that was operating from 3-phase rather than the "usual" single-phase.

He completed the wiring and then turned on the main 3-phase power. The compressor started right up. However, he could not turn it off. Finally, the safety valve went and the compressor still kept running. Of course the main breaker had to be disabled. This electrician kept "fooling around" for over an hour but could not get the compressor to turn off.

I took a look at how he had wired the control switches. He had put the main switch, the pressure turn-off switch, and the safety switch all in parallel. It was no wonder that the thing wouldn't turn off. Those switches need to be in series so that when any one opens then the compressor would turn off. I pointed this out to the electrician who insisted that he had wired them correctly. I then drew a rough schematic to show him why the compressor wouldn't turn off the way that he had it wired. He still insisted that it was wired correctly. In fact, he refused to change the wiring.

Then I had to tell him that if he wanted to get paid for the job that he WOULD wire the switches the way that I told him. He said that he wouldn't be responsible when the equipment "blew up" but that he would rewire the controls. After he rewired them he turned on the main power. Since the switch that was the "main" control for the compressor was turned off the compressor did not come on. When this switch was activated the compressor came on and ran until the tank pressure reached the proper value. Then the compressor turned off. We then ran some of the air out of the tank so that the compressor started again and manually activated the safety switch. Again the compressor turned off just like it was supposed to.

The electrician was "dumbfounded". He said that he had been a licensed electrician for over 15 years and that he didn't know that certain equipment had to be wired with the switches in series instead of parallel. I "bit my tongue", wrote a cheque for his work, and made a mental note not to ever call this electrician again.

This particular electrician came heavily recommended by the city building department and supposedly really knew what he was doing. If this person was among the best that was doing work in the city I really hated to see someone who was less qualified.

What I am trying to point out is that event though someone has the "book learning" or the credentials to do a job they just might not have the practical experience that is required to do it properly. When that is the situation then all sorts of things can go wrong. Remember, Murphy never takes a vacation.

Glen, K9STH

[ai4ep]

It is often the person who refuses to learn that puts his co-workers in danger.

[w0aew]

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

[KG4CGC]

Flouride in our water was a commie plot. We all know it. We just don't all realize it yet.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Sep. 12 2005,19:59)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2005,03:50)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Sep. 12 2005,19:34)]So now everytime the lights go out are you guys gonna blame an Arab?
No, one out of four times we'll blame Bush.
Well Actually,
#I'll Blame Bush at least three out of four times.
He is probably to blame more then 3 out of 4, but I'll be generous and give up a little for doubt.
# #I am sure that there are #few things that are the fault of our Enemys, But I'll bet there are more that are the blame of our own Government.
# Tell me the truth, Do you believe our Government is the MOST honest in the world??
#I personally believe it is one of the most DISHONEST in the world!

Gordon
Maybe when he stops kissing Vincent Foxe's a$$ we can blame him less, but until he decides that maybe having a huge welcome matt on our southern border might NOT be a good idea, whatever riffraff comes through there will be on his head.

[K8ERV]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Sep. 13 2005,22:06)]Flouride in our water was a commie plot. We all know it. We just don't all realize it yet.
Right, but it didn't work. I don't have any teeth anymore. And a few other things!!----

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

[K8ERV]

Quote[/b] (KE7DFP @ Sep. 12 2005,21:09)]Come on, think about. #Do you really think some worker just happened to cut a wire that 2 million people needed for electricity? .
Reminds me of the time back in my town in Ohio, some guy miss-connected a high-pressure natural gas line into the normal low-pressure distribution system. Burned down a few houses.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

[K8ERV]

Quote[/b] (WX7B @ Sep. 13 2005,12:37)].

I think some people just like conspiracies and the rush of being "scared". Go to Magic Mountain and ride a roller coaster if you want to be "scared".
Wrong. If you really want to be scared, just visit Montrose Colo and look at me---

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo