If you want to make a dent in "freebander ops"...

[n8yx]

Just what is a "WackPack"?

Short for "Whacker Pack"?

No matter how many shops get closed, there's always eBay to move this kind of thing:

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Galaxy-95T-w-linear-amp-hot-selling-Galaxy-ssb-Radio_W0QQitemZ5804282098QQcategoryZ4674QQr

dZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">Galaxy "10 Meter Radio" - with WACKPACK!</a>

If enough people complained to eBay about these auctions, would they go away?

[K4KWH]

Well, they're trying.

************************************************



# # # # # # # # # # # # Before the
# # # # # # #Federal Communications Commission
# # # # # # # # # Washington, D.C. 20554


In the Matter of # # # # # # # # # # # #)
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # #) # #File No.: EB-05-AT-023
Ron Jolley # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # )
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # #) # #Citation No.:
C20053248001
Sparta, Tennessee 38583 # # # # # #)


# # # # # # # # # # # # #CITATION

# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #Released: #August 24, 2005

By the District Director, Atlanta Office, South Central
Region, Enforcement Bureau:

# 1. # # This is an Official Citation issued pursuant to
# # Section 503(b)(5) of the Communications Act of 1934, as
# # amended (``Act''),1 to Ron Jolley for violation of
# # 302(b) of the Act, and Sections 2.803(a)(1) and
# # 2.815(b) and &copy; of the Commission's Rules
# # (``Rules'').2

# 2. # # Investigation by the Commission's Atlanta Office
# # of the Enforcement Bureau (``Atlanta Office'') revealed
# # that on August 2, 2005 the following thirty-seven (37)
# # non-certified Citizens Band (``CB'') transceivers were
# # offered for sale in Mr. Jolley's shop, Beavis CB & PC
# # Shop:

# # # # # # # # NAME /MODEL # # # PRICE
# # # # Magnum 350 # # # # # # # #$250.00
# # # # # # # # Magnum S-3 # # # # # # # # #$255.00
# # # # # # # # Magnum S-9 # # # # # # # # #$350.00
# # # # # # # # Texas Star 667V # # # #$------
# # # # # # # # Texas Star 400V # # # #$325.00
# # # # # # # # Texas Star 500V # # # #$------
# # # # # # # # Texas Star 350 # # # # # # #$250.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 95T # # # # # # # # #$489.95
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 93T # # # # # # # # #$459.95
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 33 HML # # # # #$225.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 44V # # # # # # # # #$245.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 55V # # # # # # # # #$255.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 66V # # # # # # # # #$285.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 73V # # # # # # # # #$385.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 77 HML # # # # #$285.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 88 HML # # # # #$355.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 99V # # # # # # # # #$415.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy DX2517 # # # # #$565.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 979 # # # # # # # # #$165.00
# # # # # # # # Galaxy 929 # # # # # # # # #$140.00
# # # # # # # # Gen. Stonewall Jackson # # #$695.00
# # # # # # # # Gen. A.P. Hill # # # # # # #$225.00
# # # # # # # # Gen. Lee # # # # # # # # # # # # $250.00
# # # # # # # # Connex 4400HP # # # # #$285.00
# # # # # # # # Connex HP # # # # # # # # # $245.00
# # # # # # # # Connex # # # # # # # # # # # # # $225.00
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #Northpoint # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #
$215.00
# # # # # # # # Ranger 6900 # # # # # # # # $320.00
# # # # # # # # RCI 6300 # # # # # # # # # #$295.00
# # # # # # # # Ranger 2950 # # # # # # # # $275.00
# # # # # # # # RCI 2970DX # # # # # # # # #$445.00
# # # # # # # # Texas Ranger 127 # # # # # # # # # $140.00
# # # # # # # # Uniden 18XL # # # # # # # # $110.95
# # # # # # # #Mexican 3900HP # # # # #$215.00
# # # # # # # #American 3900HP # # # # $245.00
# # # # # # # #Voyage #VR9000 # # # # #$270.00
# # # # # # # #Palomar Deluxe # # # # # # # # # # # #------
--

According to the Commission's records, these devices have
not received an FCC equipment authorization, which is
required for CB transmitters marketed in the United States............................................ ........................

From: www.fcc.gov # # #Enforcement pages.

[N5LRZ]

Its a highly modified radio.


What is a "WackPack"?
A WackPack is a process exclusive to RadioActive Radios! About 12 years ago, we saw a need for customers who demanded more audio, cleaner signals, and wanted to be bodacious! After years of research we designed a way to make your radio do just that. We redesign the audio/wattage section of your radio (and other stuff too!) to make your radio do max watts, max audio, and swing. But operate at much cooler temps, helping your finals last ALOT longer!! Its like watching tv, and you hear a tv commerical tons louder than the show you were watching. They do that by audio, thats what we do to our radios! You'll love a WackPacked radio! Tuned/Peaked, Peaked/Tweaked, MegaTune or what ever you call the garbage stuff CB shops do are so basic it makes us laugh. If your paying for a tune/peak honestly you're getting ripped off. What they do is hack out your audio limiter, turn a core, or spread a coil. All together making your radio get a little more audio, but its like a fat man running up a hill! Won't last long, or strong! And please never be fooled by modulator kits! What a joke, yes some semi work, but you're paying $30-$60 for a resistor in a box! Will you WackPack my radio that I already own?? Yes, as long as it qualifies to get one done. Most Big Radio Chassis do, but please don't ask us to WackPack your Cobra, Midland, or Uniden, we specialize in Big Radios!

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (K4KWH @ Aug. 30 2005,17:26)]Well, they're trying.
They need to go after Copper. And a few other shops which continue to sell amps, "export" radios and so forth even AFTER being warned about such.

Were the users of this stuff to have kept away from the ham bands, I seriously doubt we'd be discussing this bit.

As it is, they've brought it on themselves...and continue to do so with every incursion.

[w8znx]

Hello

seller also
does superwackjob
must be better
than plain old fashion
wackjob

mac

[K4KWH]

Quote[/b] (N5LRZ @ Aug. 30 2005,18:24)]Its a highly modified radio. #


What is a "WackPack"?
A WackPack is a process exclusive to RadioActive Radios! About 12 years ago, we saw a need for customers who demanded more audio, cleaner signals, and wanted to be bodacious! After years of research we designed a way to make your radio do just that. We redesign the audio/wattage section of your radio (and other stuff too!) to make your radio do max watts, max audio, and swing. But operate at much cooler temps, helping your finals last ALOT longer!! Its like watching tv, and you hear a tv commerical tons louder than the show you were watching. They do that by audio, thats what we do to our radios! You'll love a WackPacked radio! Tuned/Peaked, Peaked/Tweaked, MegaTune or what ever you call the garbage stuff CB shops do are so basic it makes us laugh. If your paying for a tune/peak honestly you're getting ripped off. What they do is hack out your audio limiter, turn a core, or spread a coil. All together making your radio get a little more audio, but its like a fat man running up a hill! Won't last long, or strong! And please never be fooled by modulator kits! What a joke, yes some semi work, but you're paying $30-$60 for a resistor in a box! Will you WackPack my radio that I already own?? Yes, as long as it qualifies to get one done. Most Big Radio Chassis do, but please don't ask us to WackPack your Cobra, Midland, or Uniden, we specialize in Big Radios!
I'm sorry, but I'm not believing I am reading this. "Swing"? What the crap is THAT? Yeah, right! Just what we freakin' need. Just like Saturday night I started to do a little CW on 10 (28.205), and what did I hear? Some chicken bander with his "far in th' war, treetop tall,
keep the sunny side up" crap QRMing me. Where was he actually? Down on chicken band channel 31! All that "Swang thar and all them thar "Bird watts" thar"
(BARF!)

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[KC0KBH]

Looking at their store sickens me. How stupid are people? Of course, it is a "10 meter radio", not a 10 meter radio. And, it allows you to "stomp" on the other stations. How ham is that?

[ve2nsm]

No kidding... another CB thread? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (ve2nsm @ Aug. 31 2005,20:39)]No kidding... another CB thread? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
No - it was a "10M" thread...but someone musta clipped a resistor in the thing and "converted" it to CB. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KC0REY]

I sent them an email. You should see the nasty replies.

Better yet, I'll copy and paste them here:

10-4 good buddy....make sure you call the FBI when someone "steals" the pen
at the bank.
Get a life!
RA


>From: truck107@frontiernet.net ()
>To: info@radioactiveradios.com
>Subject: Information at RadioActiveRadios
>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:15:22 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
> (truck107@frontiernet.net) on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 at 23:11:05
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>comments: Hey! I just sent your URL off to Riley Hollingswoth. He may want
>to see what your selling.
>
>Next time leave a lawful service like Ham Radio out of your crappy
>auctions.


AND:


You wonder why Ham Radio is so unpopular, who would want to talk to idiots
like yourself!
73sssssss


>From: truck107@frontiernet.net ()
>To: info@radioactiveradios.com
>Subject: Information at RadioActiveRadios
>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:15:22 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
> (truck107@frontiernet.net) on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 at 23:11:05
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>comments: Hey! I just sent your URL off to Riley Hollingswoth. He may want
>to see what your selling.
>
>Next time leave a lawful service like Ham Radio out of your crappy
>auctions.
>
>Submit: Submit

[w1gfh]

Quote[/b] (KC0REY @ Sep. 01 2005,09:38)]10-4 good buddy....make sure you call the FBI when someone "steals" the pen at the bank. Get a life!
RA
And there you have it. Stealing frequencies belonging to the ham radio service is as meaningless to these folks as taking a pen at a bank.

[KD6NIG]

Actually its more meaningless....that was just the quickest canned line he had.

I wouldn't even bother emailing them. Spend your emails to the FCC. He can tell the federal agents that when they come walking through the door of his "Super CB" shop. In fact, they will put him in a cell where he can say that to himself all he wants.

There are plenty of Ebay stores that sell this stuff too. I remember one specifically blocks the ID of the person buying to prevent people from "threatening to report them to the FCC". Why would people be threatened to be reported if they were doing nothing wrong, I wonder? I sent a report to Ebay and never heard a word from them, probably because they don't care-if they remove those auctions, they also remove the percentages they get off the sales.

I think someone should definetely start a petition to keep the amplifier restrictions they have now, though. If that ever gets removed, what we think is bad now is only going to get much worse.

[w8znx]

Quote[/b] (KC0REY @ Sep. 01 2005,09:38)]I sent them an email. You should see the nasty replies.

Better yet, I'll copy and paste them here:

10-4 good buddy....make sure you call the FBI when someone "steals" the pen
at the bank.
Get a life!
RA
Hello 0 rey

what the heck did you expect
radioactive to say

oh oh we are sorry
and we are never going to sell
these radios agn

do you stop your car in the city
and chastise crack dealers

just like dope
as long as there are
people willing to buy
for these radios
there will be people selling them

these rigs are just so much junk
even if they were all taken off
the market
most amateur hf xceivers can
be easly converted to freeband/cb use
so stopping the sellers of 10 meter
cb rigs realy won't stop it
they can just buy a IC 706
then wack job or super wack job it

I know of a freebander/cb op
here in the Detroit area

runs Yaseu FT 1000D
to a Henry 4K Ultra Export model
and 6 el yagi at 50 ft

and to make it worse
he has a extra class tic

rather be big fish in small pond

radio active is right
get a life

they don't give a blank what you think

yours truly
Mac

[ve2nsm]

Quote[/b] (KC0REY @ Sep. 01 2005,12:38)]I sent them an email. You should see the nasty replies.

Better yet, I'll copy and paste them here:

10-4 good buddy....make sure you call the FBI when someone "steals" the pen
at the bank.
Get a life!
RA


>From: truck107@frontiernet.net ()
>To: info@radioactiveradios.com
>Subject: Information at RadioActiveRadios
>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:15:22 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
> (truck107@frontiernet.net) on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 at 23:11:05
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>comments: Hey! I just sent your URL off to Riley Hollingswoth. He may want
>to see what your selling.
>
>Next time leave a lawful service like Ham Radio out of your crappy
>auctions.


AND:


You wonder why Ham Radio is so unpopular, who would want to talk to idiots
like yourself!
73sssssss


>From: truck107@frontiernet.net ()
>To: info@radioactiveradios.com
>Subject: Information at RadioActiveRadios
>Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:15:22 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by
> (truck107@frontiernet.net) on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 at 23:11:05
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>comments: Hey! I just sent your URL off to Riley Hollingswoth. He may want
>to see what your selling.
>
>Next time leave a lawful service like Ham Radio out of your crappy
>auctions.
>
>Submit: Submit
Well, I think he was nice to you, it coud have been worse you know http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ve2nsm]

Quote[/b] (w1gfh @ Sep. 01 2005,13:54)]Quote[/b] (KC0REY @ Sep. 01 2005,09:38)]10-4 good buddy....make sure you call the FBI when someone "steals" the pen at the bank. Get a life!
RA
And there you have it. Stealing frequencies belonging to the ham radio service is as meaningless to these folks as taking a pen at a bank.
I don't see were he is condoning the use of HAM frequencies by freebanders, everywhere on his site he says that one should not go over 28 MHz without a HAM licence.

He can not do anything more, like the car dealer can not refuse to sell you a car even if you plan to drive 80MPH on the highway, that's not his problem. Lots of car dealers sells stuff to get more power and more speed, they don't get flamed like that, even if speeding can lead to an accident that can cause loss of life (for the speeder but also the other innocents). I don't think freebanding is. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[n8yx]

If we can't be part of the solution, then let's not be part of the problem.

To wit:

What are the odds of a licensed amateur ending up with the radio offered in <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/GALAXY-EAGLE-5000-BASE-STATION-TRANSCEIVER_W0QQitemZ5806170313QQcategoryZ4674QQrd Z1QQcmdZV
iewItem" target="_blank">THIS auction?</a>

[KD6NIG]

But, you shouldn't be shocked that Fleabay helps CB'rs get thier illegal gear.

Try a search for "led police lights" sometime too. They help people get nice lights for thier cars that they aren't supposed to. Now ALLEGEDLY Ebay only allows them to sell yellow lights, but in my search for a LED flashlight, I noticed plenty of 'retailers' that would let anyone get just about any color combination. Luckily there were more retailers with what I was looking for than that stuff, but my search yielded it-and ebay even has a subcategory for them.

I guess the policy is very loosely enforced on plenty of things on Ebay. You can have your 'modified' CB, and the lights to make your car all flashy too.

I also found someone selling 'Amateur Radio Operator' signs somewhere so you could "GET THE RESPECT YOU DESERVE". I should have copied the URL. I didn't know that putting 2 magnetic signs on your car made people instantly respect you.

[wa9cwx]

Actually,

That "Wacker Stuff" looks kind of interesting....

Could I send in my Elecraft K1 and bug, and get more "swing" and higher watt thingies??

Maybe get an extra "Free Band" #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

What's so bad about THAT?

[ve7fmx]

I wonder why we even care about freebanders?... tune below 10m on that dial you call a tuner..ha.. come down to 27.605... tune down stopping every 10 khz... funny when the band is open freebander make good use of 27.405 to 27.605 (below is chaos on 40 channels above is spanish).... funny wonder how come their operating i0s better then hams?... because of bloody repeaters on 2m... wanna talk to my buddy in kansas.. im in los angeles... i use on of them node things... baa... who uses radio more?... ham radio is as much about radio as technology... some forget the radio part... as least those freebanders keep it real.. now if only the hams...*sigh*

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (wa9cwx @ Sep. 06 2005,11:28)]Actually,

That "Wacker Stuff" looks kind of interesting....

Could I send in my Elecraft K1 and bug, and get more "swing" and higher watt thingies??

Maybe get an extra "Free Band" #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

What's so bad about THAT?
Nope - it only works with the K2 - and even then, performance gains are marginal...due to the fact that
Elecraft omitted "Yayyyy-Yem" and "Eff-M" from their
line of radios. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (ve7fmx @ Sep. 09 2005,22:43)]I wonder why we even care about freebanders?... tune below 10m on that dial you call a tuner..ha.. come down to 27.605... tune down stopping every 10 khz... funny when the band is open freebander make good use of 27.405 to 27.605 (below is chaos on 40 channels above is spanish).... funny wonder how come their operating i0s better then hams?... because of bloody repeaters on 2m... wanna talk to my buddy in kansas.. im in los angeles... i use on of them node things... baa... who uses radio more?... ham radio is as much about radio as technology... some forget the radio part... as least those freebanders keep it real.. now if only the hams...*sigh*
For the most part, no one DOES care about what goes on outside the ham bands...

It's the incursions into 10M (and possibly, 12M) which have many folks up in arms. Rightfully so.

If the owners/users of those "export" radios were to stay OFF the ham bands, chances are they would go unnoticed. Then again, maybe not - some of the NOV/NAL notices I've read over the past several years cite illegal operation between 27.4 and 28.0 MHz. So, yes, Uncle is watching.

As far as freebanders "keeping it real" is concerned: This isn't 1977. The CB boom is long gone - and with it, the days of overcrowded channels. In my area, for example, the height of the "boom" saw every CB channel from 1-40 constantly in use - day and night. Each town - each area of town - had their "own" channel.

Not so these days. There is ONE (count it) channel besides 19 which sees activity. Channels 35-40 (which were traditionally used by those of us with SSB rigs) are absolutely deserted. Lots of room for communications on those 6 channels when using SSB...even if propagation is good and "...skip is rolling...".

There's currently no justification for freebanders to operate where they do. I'm not going to lose any sleep over their activities, however...unless I hear them in the 10M CW subband.

[AB8TM]

oh boy, i'm sure glad to hear all this. #i'm going to sleep well tonight. #i had no idea riley was deputizing, this is good to know. #did you guys get badges too? #how about a car with a light bar? #stun guns to settle down unruly CBers?

[ve7fmx]

funny... ch 17 is I5 traffic... usually so crowded in seattle and portland that it's hard to get a break... I believe Seattle has about 5 active channels around the city... Up here on vancouver island 37lsb and 39lsb are very active by radio canada club members, and most towns i've been in have their own channel... however i agree not all of the continent is like this and maybe the west coast sees more use of 11m... however when the 'skip rolls in' every channel of the regular 40 is jammed with hundreds of people at once... listen to 38lsb... I often hear multiple replies to one CQ DX.... Thus I understand the use of freeband... as to my comment about keeping it real... i meant communication... I have made mutiple posts on my opinions of bbs, using repeaters when simplex could be used, nodes and echolink... I have the opinion that this is not 'true radio'.. ham have always liked challenge... so what i meant this that at least cbers keep communication real (the exception is that idiot who has one linked the internet)

[n8noo]

Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Aug. 30 2005,20:21)]Just what is a "WackPack"?

Short for "Whacker Pack"?

No matter how many shops get closed, there's always eBay to move this kind of thing:

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Galaxy-95T-w-linear-amp-hot-selling-Galaxy-ssb-Radio_W0QQitemZ5804282098QQcategoryZ4674QQr


dZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">Galaxy "10 Meter Radio" - with WACKPACK!</a>

If enough people complained to eBay about these auctions, would they go away?
Am I missing a point here? Anyone who could log on to ebay could also access any offshore merchant selling transcievers. What good would complaining to ebay do? And, ebay is already an international market. On ebay someone in Nigeria can purchase a transceiver from someone in France, etc. Isn't international commerce beyond FCC jurisdiction?

[N4AUD]

I don't care what goes on with CB radio.

I don't care what freebanders do UNTIL they intrude on the ham bands. It is the FCC's job to police these people. If they intrude into our bands, then it does become the business of hams. We should be using 10 meters, and helping the FCC in any way we can to get them off our frequencies.

I can't believe that some hams licenses and the priveleges that go with them mean so little that they don't care about illegal use of our bands. If we act as if we don't care, why should anyone else?

[k7kwh]

Here is who Riley needs to see:



Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: RADIOACTIVERADIOS.COM
Created on: 11-APR-04
Expires on: 11-APR-10
Last Updated on: 31-JAN-05

Administrative, Technical Contact:
Kersnowski, Michael radioactive626@msn.com
PO Box 2708
Arizona City, Az 85223
US
(telephone number edited out)

and he is a ham too: KC2AXD

He SHOULD know better.

K7KWH

[K2WH]

Owning a CB radio should be painful.

K2WH

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (n8noo @ Sep. 10 2005,12:03)]Am I missing a point here? Anyone who could log on to ebay could also access any offshore merchant selling transcievers. What good would complaining to ebay do? And, ebay is already an international market. On ebay someone in Nigeria can purchase a transceiver from someone in France, etc. Isn't international commerce beyond FCC jurisdiction?
The original post was meant tongue-in-cheek...we all know that if eBay quit selling the stuff there would be twenty more outfits pop up to replace it.

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (AB8TM @ Sep. 10 2005,07:31)]oh boy, i'm sure glad to hear all this. i'm going to sleep well tonight. i had no idea riley was deputizing, this is good to know. did you guys get badges too? how about a car with a light bar? stun guns to settle down unruly CBers?
Badges?

We don't need no steenkin' badges!

I had no idea "they" were deputizing either...although there appear to be some who think that way.

The vast majority of us simply don't care about what goes on outside the ham bands. Read my previous comments - this thread was originally meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

But if anyone wants to play or take it too seriously, we can do that as well...

[kf4lne]

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 10 2005,13:19)]Owning a CB radio should be painful.

K2WH
owning a CB radio IS painful becuase all those idiots who own modified "10 meter radios" they call CB radios.

[kd5clk]

cbers have there share of mayham just like we as hams do there are good people out on cb bands. yea it is fun to mod ur cb and make it do more. we as ham do it too u know who u are. we all like to dx and so do cbers i know a few that even do qsl card and collect them as we do. cbers get just as mad as we do when people talk trash on the radio. a radio is a radio no matter what freqs it does. it is the person behind the mic that make the radio a bad one. are guns bad? or is it the person behind it. i did the cb thing and sometime get on those freqs and see how things are going with some of my old friends. some condon me because im a ham operator now.they think im out to take there radios away and turn them into the fcc for using a amp because they are more than the typical 4miles allowed to be talking. because there buddie lives 8 miles away. or there anntena is at 70 feet because the trees are taller than the 50 foot allowed. when i think alot of them are better operator than some we have with license. u know when u respect a person usally they respect u. i know a ham that wont talk on the hambands because he has been treated badly by a few other hams. so he talks on his cb. so think about it before bagering a cber that a good way to keep him out of the hobby. maybe if we made friends with a local cb maybe we can spread the good way of ham radio.if a cber is causeing harm chance are if he were a ham he would do the same. and chance are he is hated by other cbers too http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[w1gfh]

Quote[/b] (n8noo @ Sep. 10 2005,12:03)]Quote[/b] (n8yx @ Aug. 30 2005,20:21)]Just what is a "WackPack"?

Short for "Whacker Pack"?

No matter how many shops get closed, there's always eBay to move this kind of thing:

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Galaxy-95T-w-linear-amp-hot-selling-Galaxy-ssb-Radio_W0QQitemZ5804282098QQcategoryZ4674QQr



dZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">Galaxy "10 Meter Radio" - with WACKPACK!</a>

If enough people complained to eBay about these auctions, would they go away?
Am I missing a point here? Anyone who could log on to ebay could also access any offshore merchant selling transcievers. What good would complaining to ebay do? And, ebay is already an international market. On ebay someone in Nigeria can purchase a transceiver from someone in France, etc. Isn't international commerce beyond FCC jurisdiction?
I'm sure the guy selling "wackpaks" and "10 meter CB radios" is only intending to sell offshore to Nigeria, France, Timbuktu, etc. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Not. If you read the disclaimers on his website he clearly indicates that he thinks obeying FCC rules is for suckers.

And what's more he is a ham. Yes, it's astonishing, but there are a small number of hams engaged in selling illegal CB gear, etc. As an experiment, I have emailed one or two of these types, explained the 10 meter intruder problem, and asked them to discontinue selling 10 meter CB radios. The responses I got were very similar to drug pushers. "I'm not doing anything wrong, I'm just giving people what they want" explained one. "Screw you. I ain't gonna stop. It's a free country" said another. Personal threats followed.

So I don't recommend contacting any of these guys directly. If you feel that the marketing of this junk contributes to the problem of truckers and other unlicensed operators in the 10 meter amateur band (as I do) then contact Darryl Duckworth at the FCC and give him the url and site details.