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kg4kww
08-19-2005, 04:50 AM
Is Publicly Shaming Someone Going To Far ? Click here to read article (http://www.nbc12.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WWBT%2FMGArticle%2FWBT_BasicArt icle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031784522457)

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al2i
08-19-2005, 05:05 AM
So-called "deadbeat" parents are the ones who have their children taken from them and are then supposed to send thousands of dollars to the person who took the kids.

Every case I have ever personally known is total Bravo Sierra and is just a way for one former spouse to pillage another.

Maybe other people have seen something different. My barber got custody and a child support judgement against his former wife. When he got some back child support payments, he bought a nice gold necklace.

KG4CGC
08-19-2005, 11:11 AM
"Nathanial Young with the Child Support Division says it wasn’t an effort to shame people, although he concedes that may happen."
And the innocent be DAMNED! While I understand the logic behind this, there will be a few who will get their picture printed as a mistake. Could that ruin possible chances at future employment? What about the kids? Will they get beat up in school?

"The full page ad cost 54-hundred dollars; money well spent, the state says, considering the two-point-one billion dollars in delinquent support owed to children statewide."
OK, enough already! 2.1 billion? ! ? Total bravo sierra if you ask me. How far back are they measuring this? 1987? Further?

n2nh
08-19-2005, 12:06 PM
Your tax dollars at work. Time for a change in VA.

KW4MW
08-19-2005, 12:48 PM
AH, the Tidewater VA area, where the locals believe their ancestors came over on the Mayflower and where the Puritans are still in charge.

KD6NIG
08-19-2005, 02:07 PM
I would only find it ok if people can be shamed equally. Either you shame everyone who does a certian thing, or none. The moment you shame one person and not shame someone else, you're going to have problems.

With that, probably shouldn't do it, because you know there will be uneven shaming across the board.

kc7rs
08-19-2005, 02:39 PM
Quote[/b] ]Is Publicly Shaming Someone Going To Far ?

Apparently not...some of these folks just keep posting messages here.

n0jaa
08-19-2005, 04:52 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Aug. 19 2005,00:50)]Is Publicly Shaming Someone Going To Far ? Click here to read article (http://www.nbc12.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WWBT%2FMGArticle%2FWBT_BasicArt icle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031784522457)

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I think it depends on the offense. Certainly someone commiting a misdemeanor might be better punished by being publicly humiliated, such as carrying a sign board describing what they have done, or listing "johns," people who hire a prostitute.

Dead-beat parents? Maybe. But the case has to be taken into consideration. Some "dead-beat" parents really aren't; some of them simply can't afford the high payments the courts impose on them.

A true dead-beat? Yes, they should be publicly listed just as other miscreants are, as such data is publicly available, anyway.

Paul, N0JAA.

kl7aj
08-19-2005, 07:06 PM
Not if they're publicly shameful people!

eric

w5klb
08-20-2005, 01:30 AM
As a parent paying child support EVERY MONTH, these people have NO EXCUSE period. If I knew I was going to fall short on my child support, I CONTACTED the Child Support Office to let them know. They have worked with me, and together, we worked out a payment program until I could get caught up on the arearage.

A lot of them will make the excuse that the reason why they will not pay is because they cannot see their children. That's sad, however, in most states, child support and visitation are TWO separate issues.

Do I feel sorry for them? Hell no!! They help bring these children into the world, they can help support them just like I have to do EVERY MONTH.

K6UEY
08-20-2005, 02:44 AM
There are cases that do not fit the mold,like when the exwife complains she is not getting enough support for the kids ,yet the money is being spent to keep her boy friend in Pot and beer,that tends to have a negative impact on the incentive to make the monthly payments.

Thank GOD my kids are all grown and have kids of their own now,and in spite of their mothers influence they turned out fine.
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KG4CGC
08-20-2005, 02:47 AM
Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 19 2005,22:44)]Thank GOD my kids are all grown and have kids of their own now,and in spite of their mothers influence they turned out fine.
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That's because YOU, are their father.

al2i
08-23-2005, 04:46 PM
Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Aug. 19 2005,18:30)]As a parent paying child support EVERY MONTH, these people have NO EXCUSE period. If I knew I was going to fall short on my child support, I CONTACTED the Child Support Office to let them know. They have worked with me, and together, we worked out a payment program until I could get caught up on the arearage.
That is certainly not like it is in Alaska. No matter what, a parent is under constant assault by the agency; treated like criminals. I have watched it happen several times.

When my friend's youngest went into the Navy he stopped paying extortion to the mother, reasoning that the kid wasn't costing her anything. She eventually got a judgement against him to pay support for the time from when the kid joined until he reached 21. Rather than pay her and the guy who broke up his family $32,000 dollars, he attempted to pay it directly into a trust for his kid. When this wasn't allowed, he became a criminal, and in Alaska he can't even get a driver's license, so he moved to another state.

Dave/al2i

kg4kww
08-24-2005, 02:06 AM
As one who has been there done that, that's to say paid support and thank goodness I no longer have to as my son is grown and in the NAVY, I can truly say I understand how people feel about having to pay support, and then see that it's not being soent on the child. Anotherwords the Ex OL is better dressed than you are and child is wearing the same old stuff. I feel the parent receiving the support should have to make an accounting of all expenses realated to the child on a regular basis to the court. So, the spending of the support can be tracked and the parent do the paying can see that the child is getting the money spent on them.