Best music, no genre

[kf6rdn]

So no poll, too limited, and no limits to specific instrument. And as was pointed out correctly albiet very rudely (why can't people here disagree, WITHOUT calling each other "traitors", or "unwashed" etc) not limited to a specific genre.

Yes some classic rock is good. So is classical. I like a little of both. So is folk, even a little country.

But it irks me when I hear someone say that music today completely sucks. Yes, there's alot of talentless stuff that is popular.

There's also some old stuff that didn't "make it" to the "classics" that is very good. Given the talk on the guitar thread, anyone actually listen to Mike Oldfield? (of "Tubular Bells/Exorcist theme" fame). That song itself has some excelent guitar work. That's an oldie, but he's still doing stuff - Song of Distant Earth based on Arthur C Clarks book of the same name.

To a newer band - Flogging Molly. A brilliant mix of punk and traditional Irisk folk. I just discovered them through my daughter.

Blind Gaurdian - They do a "fantasy" type of Heavy metal, blinding a classic metal guitar with some orchestral bits with a nice vocal harmony at times. Check out "Nightfall in Middle Earth".

Amazon is a great tool for exploring music, they have the "people who liked this also liked..." link. So you look up a band you like and see similar. And they also have sound bits of some tracks. I'll check stuff out on Winmx if I like it significantly I'll buy a CD or 2. (I believe in supporting artists)


So, looking for BG CD's on Amazon, I found this group, Nitewish, with an amazing female vocalist, with some Operatic vocal styling (she apparently used to be an Opera singer). Great rendition of Phantom of the Opera.


So if you look beyond your local album rock, industry radio station there is some VERY good stuff out there. You just have to get material from places OTHER then the big labels. And some of these are "furrinors" (Blind Gaurdian is German, Nitewish is Finnish)

And oh yes, the hard one.. You have to have an OPEN MIND!

[G8ADD]

I've got this thing that I can enjoy music of any genre, it doesn't have to be popular and it doesn't even have to be performed with any great degree of skill, it just has to be played as if the musicians feel they MUST play it.

For overwhelming driving urgency, it's hard to beat John Coltrane playing "My Favourite Things".

There is as much really good music about as there has ever been. You just have to find it - or have it find you!

73

Brian G8ADD

[n2nh]

Wow no poll! Okay, where to start...

I agree that there's some very good music today. Two of my personal favourites are:

Staind ("It's Been Awhile")
Puddle of Mudd ("She Hates Me")
Coldplay ("Clocks")
Greenday ("Boulevard of Broken Dreams")

Tangerine Dream. Does a lot of soundtracks and of their own albums. Similar in genre to RDN's Oldfield. Oddly enough, much of todays music is based on the late '60s and '70s. It's definitely in there.
Yes, you're right, you do have to have an open mind. That's how most of that music that we like got listened to in the first place.


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[k6pme]

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Aug. 17 2005,02:09)]Mike Oldfield? (of "Tubular Bells/Exorcist theme" fame). #
That is an outstanding album, one of my all time favorites.

But for me it's easier list the genre of music that I don't like. I'll even listen to Polka and good Bluegrass.

>cRAP, although some of the lighter hip hop is ok.
>Opera, does nothing for me.
>That unintelligible Headbanger stuff passed off as rock gives me a headache.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (KG6QQL @ Aug. 17 2005,06:10)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Aug. 17 2005,02:09)]Mike Oldfield? (of "Tubular Bells/Exorcist theme" fame). #
That is an outstanding album, one of my all time favorites.

But for me it's easier list the genre of music that I don't like. I'll even listen to Polka and good Bluegrass.

>cRAP, although some of the lighter hip hop is ok.
>Opera, does nothing for me.
>That unintelligible Headbanger stuff passed off as rock gives me a headache.
Opera is a wonderfull music... I just can't get into it. But you have to admire the talent.


And alot will disagree with this, but Eminem is actually quite vocally talented. He may grow into a very good musician if he grows up, and stops obsessing about his mother.

Tubular is a good album, if you like that, aughta check out some of his later stuff.

The other thing I forgot to mention that I feel changed music significantly is alot of the punk/newwave of the 80s. B-52s, Sex Pistols, Clash, DEVO etc. And yes, if you listen to alot of the guitar rifs, they were clearly 60 surf music influenced. Rock Lobster being a sort of classic.

[KW4MW]

This OF enjoys some of the New Age music. It's mostly just instrumental and it's great to relax or meditate with.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ Aug. 17 2005,06:31)]This OF enjoys some of the New Age music. #It's mostly just instrumental and it's great to relax or meditate with.
If you like that, you might LIKE some of Mike Oldfields newer stuff.. It seems LITTLE bit new age-ish.

[KA9VQF]

Many PBS stations carry a program called ECHOES, with host John Diliberto.
They play a lot of ‘ambient house’, ‘space’ and other mainly instrumental music. I prefer this to most everything else. I like Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells but like Tubular Bells II even better.

Check out your local PBS affiliate to see if they carry the program. If they don’t you can go to

echoes.org


and hear some of their streaming audio. You can also buy ton’s of disks at the site, they do charge for the music.

[wa4brl]

Quote[/b] ]Yes some classic rock is good. #So is classical.
Or classic oldies, or classic R&B, etc., etc., etc.

The problem with classic anything is it limits choices to the same old stuff. #Such as with classic rock usually means Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin, and classical music usually means Bach or Brahms. #You get the idea.

I like the premise of the thread -- getting OFF the beaten path. #I'll start it off with a somewhat offbeat classical (sorry #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ) music selection, #a Berlios overture: The Roman Carnival.

[KI6ADA]

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 17 2005,04:37)]Tangerine Dream. #Does a lot of soundtracks and of their own albums. #Similar in genre to RDN's Oldfield. #Oddly enough, much of todays music is based on the late '60s and '70s. #It's definitely in there. #
Yes, you're right, you do have to have an open mind. #That's how most of that music that we like got listened to in the first place.


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Thanks for bringing up Tangerine Dream, They were one of the early groups that went straight to CD. Great music, and very original. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[VA7SST]

Q: What do you get when you play new age music backwards?

A: New age music http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KG4CGC]

Here is a man whos work I've admired since high school.
Steve Tibbetts (http://www.hollowear.com/reviews/tibbetts-horse.html)
He is little know to most everyone I've spoken to yet he's still working and making new music. I have on of his first albums, "YR". From the first time I heard it seemed so familiar and entrancing. Like you've heard it before yet it is the first time. The first time I heard this music, when the album was finished I felt like I had just taken a journey around the world. Make fun if you must but not until you've heard some of his music.
Anyone else familiar with Steve Tibbetts?

[kc2kde]

Country is my type. Definately.

[KE5FRF]

I like all kinds of music, as long as it doesn't reference anyones "booty" or demean women by calling them slang words for protitutes.
Another prerequisite for my taste in music is that it actually has to be played on INSTRUMENTS by MUSICIANS, not digitally mixed by DJ's, and 90% of it doesn't have to come through bass speakers.
Anything else is not music, it is noise, and I can go to a construction site to hear that.

[kd5rpo]

I enjoy listening to the very early blues like what came from Robert Johnson, and the earliest roots of Rock&Roll like the 1953 classic Rocket 88.

I like many types of music, but find it most enjoyable when skill in comunicating message and emotion moves the listener. I just don't hear that in much recent music.

[KI6ADA]

I just heard the "Bay City Rollers" yes I really did!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[KW4MW]

kc2kde Posted on Aug. 17 2005,10:03
Quote[/b] ]Country is my type. Definately.
As my ol' Pappy used to say, "There is only two kinds of music, Country and Western",

[N0KLT]

One of my all time favorite songs is Nate King Cole's Nature Boy. His version of Mona Lisa is hard to beat also. The Xmas song known usally as "Chestnuts Roasting" is another song I love, several artists have versions of it that I like.

7 Spanish Angels by Willie Nelson and Ray Charles is a hauntingly beautiful song also. But almost anything by Ray Charles rates as da** good in my book. His "Georgia" is as good as it gets.

CCR didn't do much bad stuff either, and from that era, 3 Dog Night and Blood, Sweat, and Tears were great and some of Loving Spoonful's music was good also.

Every era has had some great music and also some real crap that passed as music. Every genre has some great talents that shown brightly and stood head and shoulders above all others. Too many to name or remember.

[n0jaa]

Quote[/b] (KA9VQF @ Aug. 17 2005,10:16)]Many PBS stations carry a program called ECHOES, with host John Diliberto.
They play a lot of ‘ambient house’, ‘space’ and other mainly instrumental music. I prefer this to most everything else. I like Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells but like Tubular Bells II even better.

Check out your local PBS affiliate to see if they carry the program. If they don’t you can go to

<a href="echoes.org" target="_blank">echoes.org</a>


#and hear some of their streaming audio. You can also buy ton’s of disks at the site, they do charge for the music.
My favorite syndicated music program is "Music from the Hearts of Space."

To that end, one of the genres I enjoy is contemporary space music, and in that vein, my favorite artist/composers are Wendy Carlos, John Serrie and Constance Demby.

Paul, N0JAA.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (n0jaa @ Aug. 17 2005,15:08)]Quote[/b] (KA9VQF @ Aug. 17 2005,10:16)]Many PBS stations carry a program called ECHOES, with host John Diliberto.
They play a lot of ‘ambient house’, ‘space’ and other mainly instrumental music. I prefer this to most everything else. I like Mike Oldfield’s Tubular Bells but like Tubular Bells II even better.

Check out your local PBS affiliate to see if they carry the program. If they don’t you can go to

<a href="echoes.org" target="_blank">echoes.org</a>


#and hear some of their streaming audio. You can also buy ton’s of disks at the site, they do charge for the music.
My favorite syndicated music program is "Music from the Hearts of Space."

To that end, one of the genres I enjoy is contemporary space music, and in that vein, my favorite artist/composers are Wendy Carlos, John Serrie and Constance Demby.

Paul, N0JAA.
Is Wendy Carlos still doing stuff? I haven't heard from err.. her, since.. er.. he did the music from Clockwork Orange.
That was some good stuff.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (N0KLT @ Aug. 17 2005,14:47)]Every era has had some great music and also some real crap that passed as music. Every genre has some great talents that shown brightly and stood head and shoulders above all others. Too many to name or remember.
I am thankfully noting that nobody is mentioning the 70's disco era stuff.. heh! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[ab8ma]

1968: The Peanut Butter Conspiracy. Jefferson Airplane wantabe.

[KI6ADA]

The early 70's Pop scene "OZark Mountain Blue Devils" . http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blues.gif

[kf6rdn]

And ELP was left from the 70s Nobody's mentioned them in any of these music threads, but they were very talented, and I hear put on a hell of a show.
(ELP - Emerson Lake & Palmer)

[KI6ADA]

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Aug. 18 2005,12:50)]And ELP was left from the 70s Nobody's mentioned them in any of these music threads, but they were very talented, and I hear put on a hell of a show.
(ELP - Emerson Lake & Palmer)
Robert Palmer early days

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (KI6ADA @ Aug. 18 2005,14:27)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Aug. 18 2005,12:50)]And ELP was left from the 70s Nobody's mentioned them in any of these music threads, but they were very talented, and I hear put on a hell of a show.
(ELP - Emerson Lake & Palmer)
Robert Palmer early days
No, it was actually Carl Palmer, he was the drummer.

[n0jaa]

Here's a partial listing of what I like. #Of course, my tastes vary with my mood and etc., but generally this is what I like most. #

I can't list it all, as my list would probably be a mile long!

Music

Rock -- Foreigner
Classic Rock -- Steppenwolf
Country -- Johnny Cash
Jazz -- Vince Guaraldi, Louis Armstrong
Classical -- Ludwig Van Beethoven
New Age -- Mannheim Steamroller
Bluegrass -- Earl Scruggs
Folk -- The Kingston Trio
Orchestral Standards -- Percy Faith
Big Band Swing -- Glenn Miller


Instruments

Acoustic Guitar, Dobro, Acoustic Bass, Chapman Stick, Piano, Pipe Organ


I can't list it all, but this will give you a sample of what I like.

Paul, N0JAA.

[KI6ADA]

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Aug. 19 2005,09:01)]Quote[/b] (KI6ADA @ Aug. 18 2005,14:27)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Aug. 18 2005,12:50)]And ELP was left from the 70s Nobody's mentioned them in any of these music threads, but they were very talented, and I hear put on a hell of a show.
(ELP - Emerson Lake & Palmer)
Robert Palmer early days
No, it was actually Carl Palmer, he was #the drummer.
oops ! thank you for the correction, have a great day http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ae2ny]

I'm probably the odd one out here. Not into country too much, rock, rap, none of it really... I'm more into...

Traditional Pharoh Era Egyptian Music
Enigma
Enya
Tangerine Dream
Lorenna McKennitt
Traditional Arabic Belly Dancing Music

That's what you'll hear playing for the most part in my home. Unless of course the XYL gets a hold of the stereo system, then it's oldies and country.


Anthony - W8ANT

[k4kyv]

I recall a show on NPR about 10-12 years ago, Schickle's Mix (sp?) by Peter Schickle (if I spelt his name right). BTW the weekly show is still on the air.

The title was "the Beatles sing the classics". He made the point that many of the tunes for the Beatle songs were stolen from relatively unknown classical music works. He played excerpts from the classical pieces then the Beatle songs, and the resemblance was unmistakable.

This doesn't make me appreciate Beatles music any less. In fact, I think it was clever of them to even find these old unknown pieces, and then bring them to life. But the original composers should have got some credit for their work.

[W0LPQ]

KYV: The program is still on the air. That particular show was rebroadcast about a year ago locally. I listen to him sometimes, there are times, when he I think goes overboard...but that particular program is really neat.

Also, don't forget that Mr. Whitehair of the Boston Pops used to play a lot of Beatles stuff...! But he is now long gone in favour of the new conductor, who still plays a lot of the old Beatles stuff.

JJA: I almost agree with your selections..! Classic Rock, I guess would have to go with ... good grief, choices again..! Yours was ok...

But Classic Rock is hard to pick just one..! There were several who were pretty darn good. BST, ELO, etc...

73

Bill, W0LPQ

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (W8ANT @ Aug. 20 2005,04:23)]I'm probably the odd one out here. #Not into country too much, rock, rap, none of it really... I'm more into...

Traditional Pharoh Era Egyptian Music
Enigma
Enya
Tangerine Dream
Lorenna McKennitt
Traditional Arabic Belly Dancing Music

That's what you'll hear playing for the most part in my home. #Unless of course the XYL gets a hold of the stereo system, then it's oldies and country.


Anthony - W8ANT
I like some of that, I'd forgotten about Lorenna McKennitt. Very interesting woman. She travels around apparently and studies music of other cultures from which she uses as influence in her works.


Belly dancer music... Now if you could get the dancer to go with it.. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif But yeah, I've actually like some of that, as well as some of the arabic stuff from the renaasiance period. There used to be a program called Music of the Spheres on a pbs type radio station (25 or so years ago when pbs was worth a damn) that played alot of that type of stuff.

[AG3Y]

Quote[/b] (W0LPQ @ Aug. 20 2005,21:21)]KYV: #The program is still on the air. #That particular show was rebroadcast about a year ago locally. #I listen to him sometimes, there are times, when he I think goes overboard...but that particular program is really neat.

Also, don't forget that Mr. Whitehair of the Boston Pops used to play a lot of Beatles stuff...! #But he is now long gone in favour of the new conductor, who still plays a lot of the old Beatles stuff.

73

Bill, W0LPQ
Peter Schikley ( sp ? ) also known as "PDQ Bach" is a very skilled and learned athority on music of all genre's. #His program has been a staple of NPR for years. #I still have some of his PDQ records in my collection, although it is by no means complete. #He has probably done more to bring all different kinds of music to one audience than any other person.

Oh BTW, there is another expert on Public radio who has been doing much the same thing for years, as well. #I cannot remember his name, and his delivery is so dry that you would go to sleep soon after his "helllooo" that starts the program interminable minutes after the slow movement of Beethoven's "Appasionata Sonata" ( I believe it is ), which is his theme song! # Yaaawwnnn ! #

What a difference in delivery ! #I'll take "Pete" any day !



p.s. Just remembered the name - Karl Haas !
73, Jim

[n0jaa]

Quote[/b] (KI6ADA @ Aug. 18 2005,13:05)]The early 70's Pop scene "OZark Mountain Blue Devils" . http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blues.gif
I thought that was Ozark Mountain Daredevils?!?!?

[n0jaa]

Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Aug. 22 2005,15:27)]Oh BTW, there is another expert on Public radio who has been doing much the same thing for years, as well. #I cannot remember his name, and his delivery is so dry that you would go to sleep soon after his "helllooo" that starts the program interminable minutes after the slow movement of Beethoven's "Appasionata Sonata" ( I believe it is ), which is his theme song! # Yaaawwnnn ! #

What a difference in delivery ! #I'll take "Pete" any day !



p.s. #Just remembered the name - #Karl Haas !
73, Jim
I do enjoy Karl Haas' programs, even if his delivery is a little "stuffy."

You may think this is a little wierd, but it's the true story of how I became interested in both jazz and classical: "A Boy Named Charlie Brown."

Vince Guaraldi's music interested me greatly, and I first became interested in classical after hearing the second movement of Beethoven's "Appasionata" in that feature.

It's amazing how Schroeder can play all of that music on his toy piano, especially when you consider that the black keys are painted on! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif


Paul, N0JAA.

[AG3Y]

One of the "classic" Charlie Brown TV programs, I think it was "A Charlie Brown Christmas" had Schroeder get upset with Lucy ( who wouldn't ? ? ? ) and he started one-finger banging away at the piano . "Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells" Absolutely hilarious !

BTW, that guy that has raised millions for PBS was on WETA last night again, hawking his "method" for learning to play a form of jazz/popular music without learning the proper fingering , ala classical training. I would really like to know how successful his "students" are by using his method. That would be an interesting thread in itself !

73, Jim

[n2nh]

Quote[/b] (KI6ADA @ Aug. 20 2005,04:18)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Aug. 19 2005,09:01)]Quote[/b] (KI6ADA @ Aug. 18 2005,14:27)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Aug. 18 2005,12:50)]And ELP was left from the 70s Nobody's mentioned them in any of these music threads, but they were very talented, and I hear put on a hell of a show.
(ELP - Emerson Lake & Palmer)
Robert Palmer early days
No, it was actually Carl Palmer, he was the drummer.
oops ! thank you for the correction, have a great day http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Yep, and ELP had at least one member that came over from King Krimson.

Oddly enough, on another track, I've always liked Zither music too...

[W0LPQ]

Jim, AG3Y: Karl Haas died earlier this year. One local PBS outlet continues to play his reruns. The other cancelled it when he died.

73

Bill, W0LPQ

[K3XR]

Enjoy a wide range of music, no gangster rap. #Lately Bakersfield Honky Tonk. #i.e. Dwight Yoakum, Buck Owens, Merle Haggard and a fabulous singer song writer by the name of Heather Myles. #Check a couple of her clips on the CD Universe web site.

[KI6ADA]

SF Bay Area check out 95.7 FM "The Max". They play all music from late 60's to late 80's. Disco one moment and Def Leppard than back to Wild Cherry. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[w4rot]

Ozark Mountain Daredevils
E.E Lawson was a hell of a man.
Damn fine tune,
w4rot