"QRZ STAFF"

[nx6d]

There is a thread out there by "QRZ STAFF" that lectures everyone on protocol.

I think ANY unidentified station on here is weak, but someone that's a moderator unidentified is off the scale.

Sorry, Fred. You do a lot of things right, but having some phantom moderator is completely bravo sierra.

Dave WX7B

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (WX7B @ Aug. 17 2005,01:20)]Sorry, Fred. You do a lot of things right, but having some phantom moderator is completely bravo sierra.
Go get on the air, Dave.



WA5KRP http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/ruinkai/peepwallA.gif
Texas

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (WA5KRP @ Aug. 16 2005,22:41)]Quote[/b] (WX7B @ Aug. 17 2005,01:20)]Sorry, Fred. You do a lot of things right, but having some phantom moderator is completely bravo sierra.
Go get on the air, Dave.



WA5KRP http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/ruinkai/peepwallA.gif
Texas
Can't hear anything, Danny!

As someone else said here on another thread:

"Propagation will get you through times of no amplifier better than amplifiers will get you through times of no propagation".

Dave WX7B

[al2i]

Bands are down, but workable. You need skilz. I was listening to Art Bell on 3940 just a few minutes ago, but I doubt he is QRpp. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif


QRZ NON-MODERATOR

[KI6ADA]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ Aug. 17 2005,01:03)]Bands are down, but workable. #You need skilz. #I was listening to Art Bell on 3940 just a few minutes ago, but I doubt he is QRpp. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif


QRZ NON-MODERATOR
I heard that Art Bell has some crazy transmitter that has a 1 square mile wire loop? Do I need to be corrected, I do not have SW or HF. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[K6UEY]

KI6ADA,
Yes and NO !! Art has a large #loop of wire up that is not square, in fact it wanders aroud the neighborhood,it is an example of a total FIASCO in antenna design.I think he built it as an example of the new breed of NON Technical Radio Amateur.

Why bother to learn the technical stuff if alll you are interested in is "Shooting Skip" ?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[K6UEY]

On the question of the "Phantom Staff" it would seem to me that the identification as a moderator should be all that is necessary. We all know that Fred has a Staff of volunteers who monitor the postings on these forums,so if some one was to identify falsey,they would be detected in short order. To identify as a moderator should be adequate to verify they have the authority as granted by Fred.

I personally can not think of a logical reason for a member of the Staff to be required to give their personal identification,unless they care to,and being in that position I sure would not. Too many wierdo's and crazy nuts running loose these days,and especially here on the Internet.The purpose of doing personal harm is the only reason I can think of to require they ID.

At least that's my personal opinion!!

[N1XHF]

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 16 2005,02:51)]On the question of the "Phantom Staff" it would seem to me that the identification as a moderator should be all that is necessary. We all know that Fred has a Staff of volunteers who monitor the postings on these forums,so if some one was to identify falsey,they would be detected in short order. To identify as a moderator should be adequate to verify they have the authority as granted by Fred.

I personally can not think of a logical reason for a member of the Staff to be required to give their personal identification,unless they care to,and being in that position I sure would not. Too many wierdo's and crazy nuts running loose these days,and especially here on the Internet.The purpose of doing personal harm is the only reason I can think of to require they ID.

At least that's my personal opinion!!
I agree with that. Fact is if your not doing anything wrong than you have nothing to worry about in the first place. It does not matter who the moderator or Staff is that might have to take corrective action.

[ae4tr]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # I see no need to know who the moderators are. #Every web page must have a moderator, or else all would be a mass of confusion, with rampant personal attacks, name calling, using profane language and the like. #I say leave them unidentified. #They are doing a super job of keeping the posts at a decent level. #This of course is my personal opinion, to which I am entitled to, and usually stuck with. #
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[al2i]

There are reasons to both identify and not identify who is moderating depending on the type of people using the service. In the case of QRZ, the moderators are neither completely anonomous nor fully advertised. I think they are doing OK, as long as they "moderate" people who disagree with me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[WA2ZDY]

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 17 2005,04:34)]Art has a large #loop of wire up that is not square, in fact it wanders aroud the neighborhood,it is an example of a total FIASCO in antenna design.
I'd be happy with a wire wandering all around the neighbourhood. I'm about the load up the downspouts and rain gutters. Hmmmmm . . . that or the wire around the block . . . easy choice Orv !

[k6pme]

Quote[/b] (WX7B @ Aug. 16 2005,23:20)]There is a thread out there by "QRZ STAFF" that lectures everyone on protocol.

I think ANY unidentified station on here is weak, but someone that's a moderator unidentified is off the scale.

Sorry, Fred. You do a lot of things right, but having some phantom moderator is completely bravo sierra.

Dave WX7B
No, I don't have a problem with it.

Just out of curiousity, is there anything that you WON'T argue about?

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 17 2005,02:34)]KI6ADA,
Yes and NO !! Art has a large loop of wire up that is not square, in fact it wanders aroud the neighborhood,it is an example of a total FIASCO in antenna design.I think he built it as an example of the new breed of NON Technical Radio Amateur.

Why bother to learn the technical stuff if alll you are interested in is "Shooting Skip" ?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Orv-

Have you seen Art Bell's loop antenna? Your description leads me to think you haven't. "Wanders around the neighborhood" doesn't appear to cover it. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Here's the link. (http://free.prohosting.com/ae7op/)

73, Rob
(Edited to add link)

[W5MJL]

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 17 2005,03:51)]On the question of the "Phantom Staff" it would seem to me that the identification as a moderator should be all that is necessary. We all know that Fred has a Staff of volunteers who monitor the postings on these forums,so if some one was to identify falsey,they would be detected in short order. To identify as a moderator should be adequate to verify they have the authority as granted by Fred.

I personally can not think of a logical reason for a member of the Staff to be required to give their personal identification,unless they care to,and being in that position I sure would not. Too many wierdo's and crazy nuts running loose these days,and especially here on the Internet.The purpose of doing personal harm is the only reason I can think of to require they ID.

At least that's my personal opinion!!
I agree. #In fact, I think all warnings should be given by QRZ STAFF. #

Let's say Bill K7JBQ warns someone who happens to be a No-coder. #He warns someone for good reason, but because everyone knows Bill enjoys CW someone could misconstrue the true reason for the warning.

[ab8ma]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ Aug. 17 2005,04:35)]There are reasons to both identify and not identify who is moderating depending on the type of people using the service. #In the case of QRZ, the moderators are neither completely anonomous nor fully advertised. #I think they are doing OK, as long as they "moderate" people who disagree with me. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I want it stated for the record that I agree with you. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[K3UD]

Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ Aug. 17 2005,08:35)]Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 17 2005,02:34)]KI6ADA,
Yes and NO !! Art has a large loop of wire up that is not square, in fact it wanders aroud the neighborhood,it is an example of a total FIASCO in antenna design.I think he built it as an example of the new breed of NON Technical Radio Amateur.

Why bother to learn the technical stuff if alll you are interested in is "Shooting Skip" ?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Orv-

Have you seen Art Bell's loop antenna? Your description leads me to think you haven't. "Wanders around the neighborhood" doesn't appear to cover it. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Here's the link. (http://free.prohosting.com/ae7op/)

73, Rob
(Edited to add link)
Nice shots,

It seems that Art IS the neighborhood http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73
George
K3UD

[KW4MW]

WX7BQuote[/b] ]There is a thread out there by "QRZ STAFF" that lectures everyone on protocol.

I think ANY unidentified station on here is weak, but someone that's a moderator unidentified is off the scale.

Sorry, Fred. You do a lot of things right, but having some phantom moderator is completely bravo sierra.

Dave WX7B


Dave - if you're agin it, I'm for it just on principle. # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KG4CGC]

Take a chill pill Dave. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[K8YS]

"QRZ STAFF" is really, none other, than Secret Squirrel.

[KC2KFC]

Quote[/b] (WX7B @ Aug. 16 2005,23:20)]There is a thread out there by "QRZ STAFF" that lectures everyone on protocol.

I think ANY unidentified station on here is weak, but someone that's a moderator unidentified is off the scale.

Sorry, Fred. You do a lot of things right, but having some phantom moderator is completely bravo sierra.

Dave WX7B
You're kidding right? This is some sort of tongue in cheek humor.

[K7JBQ]

Quote[/b] (w5mjl @ Aug. 17 2005,06:44)]Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 17 2005,03:51)]On the question of the "Phantom Staff" it would seem to me that the identification as a moderator should be all that is necessary. We all know that Fred has a Staff of volunteers who monitor the postings on these forums,so if some one was to identify falsey,they would be detected in short order. To identify as a moderator should be adequate to verify they have the authority as granted by Fred.

I personally can not think of a logical reason for a member of the Staff to be required to give their personal identification,unless they care to,and being in that position I sure would not. Too many wierdo's and crazy nuts running loose these days,and especially here on the Internet.The purpose of doing personal harm is the only reason I can think of to require they ID.

At least that's my personal opinion!!
I agree. #In fact, I think all warnings should be given by QRZ STAFF. #

Let's say Bill K7JBQ warns someone who happens to be a No-coder. #He warns someone for good reason, but because everyone knows Bill enjoys CW someone could misconstrue the true reason for the warning.
For the record, this moderator has "warned" more Know-Coders than No-Coders, but never on the basis of what any given poster is "for" or "against." Like the others, I base what I do while wearing the trendy moderator hat (only $19.95 plus $400 shipping on eBay) strictly on the "Rules of the Road."

Also, there are moderators and there are editors. Two different groups of people. The moderators are all identified -- just click on the "moderated by" button to the right of every forum and you'll see which of us has business where.

By the way, moderating is (usually) not that tough a job. Though there are days...

73,
Bill

[N8CPA]

Why those bigoted American know-code, internet elitists! How dare they seek to hide behind their moderator hats like terrorists hind behind bandanas.

And, how dare they monopolize a Q-code like that! Next thing you know, you'll have to pay 12c every time you ask for a station to resend a call sign on CW.

Better yet! We can bill them 12c every time we ask for a resend--advertising charges, you know.

[Hee hee hee -- ain't I a stinker!] http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KA4DPO]

Hey I just got chewed out for posting a picture of canning jar lids. The moderator said it was offensive. Good thing I didn't put a picture of the jar on there too. Sorry folks, no more pictures from this QTH, never know what might be considered offensive.

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Aug. 17 2005,13:46)]Hey I just got chewed out for posting a picture of canning jar lids. The moderator said it was offensive. Good thing I didn't put a picture of the jar on there too. Sorry folks, no more pictures from this QTH, never know what might be considered offensive.
Here is about as far as I would push it:

http://www.davemcgraw.com/Images/one_puppies_opinion.jpg

[KD6NIG]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ Aug. 17 2005,14:39)]Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Aug. 17 2005,13:46)]Hey I just got chewed out for posting a picture of canning jar lids. #The moderator said it was offensive. #Good thing I didn't put a picture of the jar on there too. # Sorry folks, no more pictures from this QTH, never know what might be considered offensive.
Here is about as far as I would push it:

http://www.davemcgraw.com/Images/one_puppies_opinion.jpg

Ouch, I wouldn't want that to be my laptop http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

As for the original topic-no, it doesn't bug me. This is an internet site, I don't have to pay to use it (thanks!) so how they run it should be thier call since they are the ones paying the bills.

If I was paying the bills, then I would run things my way http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif I'm not, so I don't worry about it too much. I may suffer withdrawls when the site is down though.

[W5MJL]

Those damn no code puppies!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (w5mjl @ Aug. 17 2005,15:02)]Those damn no code puppies!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Man!! You just made my picture cross over the line into being offensive!

[w8znx]

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 17 2005,01:34)]I think he built it as an example of the new breed of NON Technical Radio Amateur.

Why bother to learn the technical stuff if alll you are interested in is "Shooting Skip" ?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Art is anything but new breed
his kid op call was K5JOX

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (KW4MW @ Aug. 17 2005,06:06)]WX7BQuote[/b] ]There is a thread out there by "QRZ STAFF" that lectures everyone on protocol.

I think ANY unidentified station on here is weak, but someone that's a moderator unidentified is off the scale.

Sorry, Fred. You do a lot of things right, but having some phantom moderator is completely bravo sierra.

Dave WX7B


Dave - if you're agin it, I'm for it just on principle. # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Don't be such a contrarian, there, Mike...

Dave WX7B http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[W8EFA]

I am struggling with the apparent feelings of a lot of hams on here that QRZ is providing a public service and are to be highly commended.

Please correct me if I am wrong but it is my understanding that QRZ is a commercial venture to make money. Without us subscribers there would be no advertising and there would be no QRZ.

I like QRZ alot. It is a very nicely layed out, good informationional website. However there are other sites I like better for Reviews etc. The reason I come to QRZ are the forums and the call lookup. My only complaint is the moderators can be somewhat heavy handed at times. They may want to keep in mind the impact on their revenues if the posters don't visit, we might want to keep in mind that we are making them money by visiting!

[gw4rcm]

I for one, would love to know the identity of the moderator, who was recently offended by a pic of a beautiful woman.To go as far, as to bar a QRZer for posting that pic, seem to me, that moderators need moderating as well.

RCM

[K8YS]

Quote[/b] (W8EFA @ Aug. 17 2005,18:39)]I am struggling with the apparent feelings of a lot of hams on here that QRZ is providing a public service and are to be highly commended.

Please correct me if I am wrong but it is my understanding that QRZ is a commercial venture to make money. Without us subscribers there would be no advertising and there would be no QRZ.

I like QRZ alot. It is a very nicely layed out, good informationional website. However there are other sites I like better for Reviews etc. The reason I come to QRZ are the forums and the call lookup. My only complaint is the moderators can be somewhat heavy handed at times. They may want to keep in mind the impact on their revenues if the posters don't visit, we might want to keep in mind that we are making them money by visiting!
that is quite CAPITALIST of you... there may be hope yet.

[K6UEY]

W8EFA,
If you are thinking of organizing a QRZ Teamsters Union ,so you can go on strike to show your power,leave me off the rolls,I don't join any Socialist Labor Party. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

I spent over 40 years working for NON-UNION establishments and I have no reason to ruin my good record now !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[KA4DPO]

Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Aug. 17 2005,14:57)]Quote[/b] (al2i @ Aug. 17 2005,14:39)]Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Aug. 17 2005,13:46)]Hey I just got chewed out for posting a picture of canning jar lids. #The moderator said it was offensive. #Good thing I didn't put a picture of the jar on there too. # Sorry folks, no more pictures from this QTH, never know what might be considered offensive.
Here is about as far as I would push it:

http://www.davemcgraw.com/Images/one_puppies_opinion.jpg

Ouch, I wouldn't want that to be my laptop http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

As for the original topic-no, it doesn't bug me. #This is an internet site, I don't have to pay to use it (thanks!) so how they run it should be thier call since they are the ones paying the bills.

If I was paying the bills, then I would run things my way http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif #I'm not, so I don't worry about it too much. #I may suffer withdrawls when the site is down though.
Cute dog, hope no one is offended by the picture.

As for they're the ones paying for it, have you seen the adds? Did you think they do that for free? Everytime you log on to this site the advertisers pay.

Oh, and no more puppies please, I was frightened by a puppy just like that one when I was little and I think you just put that on there to tease me.

[W8EFA]

Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Aug. 17 2005,16:51)]Quote[/b] (W8EFA @ Aug. 17 2005,18:39)]I am struggling with the apparent feelings of a lot of hams on here that QRZ is providing a public service and are to be highly commended.

Please correct me if I am wrong but it is my understanding that QRZ is a commercial venture to make money. #Without us #subscribers there would be no advertising and there would be no QRZ.

I like QRZ alot. #It is a very nicely layed out, good informationional website. However there are other sites I like better for Reviews etc. #The reason I come to QRZ are the forums and the call lookup. #My only complaint is the moderators can be somewhat heavy handed at times. #They may want to keep in mind the impact on their revenues if the posters don't visit, we might want to keep in mind that we are making them money by visiting!
that is quite CAPITALIST of you... there may be hope yet.
Well believe it or not Ayn Rand is one if my Favorite authors.

UEY - Don't worry - if I were forming a club you wouldn't be invited unless it was a "Grouchy Old Timers Club".

[W5HTW]

Quote[/b] (W8EFA @ Aug. 17 2005,19:03)]UEY - Don't worry - if I were forming a club you wouldn't be invited unless it was a "Grouchy Old Timers Club".
Hey! Wait! I want to join that one! I want to be a charter member! Uh, maybe I AM a charter member?

Wow a place for me in all this. Hot diggetit times 20!

Ed

[N0KLT]

Quote[/b] (gw4rcm @ Aug. 17 2005,17:42)]I for one, would love to know the identity of the moderator, who was recently offended by a pic of a beautiful woman.To go as far, as to bar a QRZer for posting that pic, seem to me, that moderators need moderating as well.

RCM
RCM,

It is my understanding, and somebody please correct me if I am wrong, that the objection was raised either by a 9 yr old kid or someone whose 9 yr old saw the picture. The banning, as I understand it, was done in response to objections raised by the parent of the kid. In the back of my mind, I have the vague recollection that the 9 yr old was a girl, but quite frankly, I am too lazy and don't care enough to go research it.

[K6UEY]

I too would like to know all the facts behind what took place.

Yes I heard it was a nine year old girl who protested the picture. I ask what the hell was a nine year old doing browsing the Internet with out supervision of her parents.

The internet is globally famous for it's perverts and God only knows what other despictable persons,so what was she doing on the internet unsupervised ??

Of all the places I would think the Internet would be the last place I would want my child to be playing or browsing around unattended.

Parental responsibility just like the teaching of morals and ethics is rapidly becoming things of the past,just old 20th Century that no longer applies.

This is my first time at aging and as they say getting old,but from what I see of it I sure as hell would not want to do it twice. # # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[K9STH]

DPO's picture was removed for the simple fact that he called another amateur radio operator a "lid" and used the photo to illustrate that fact.

The rules of the road on QRZ.com are very simple

No profanity

No obscenities

No personal attacks

Calling someone a "lid" is a personal attack. However, posting a photograph is even worse. I let the calling of the person a "lid" slide because it isn't "that bad", although I definitely do not condone this. However, the photograph was "over the top".

If someone doesn't like this, then, I'm sorry. But, the photo did cross the line. Of course it did not violate the first two rules, but it did violate the third. As such, it was deleted and I will delete such photos again as well as taking a much harder stance on the person who posts such photos.

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators

[K6UEY]

K9STH,
Glen, I'm a little confused,I thought we were discussing the banning of Dan,and of course the reinstatement. I was not aware that there was an incident involving DPO.

Yes I can see where the banning for the use of the term "LID" could lead to the mass terminations on QRZ as there are many who are fully qualified.

Maybe a weekly roster needs to be made up so we can keep track of who is in the lime light for the week. It would appear that simultaneous actions brought by the moderators lends to an amount of confusion for the posters...HIHI

[KA4DPO]

I just read a thread on the homepage entitled "The life of a QRZ Monitor". In the thread the QRZ staffer points out some of the bone headded posts and E-mails they have to deal with. I'm sure there are a lot of loose ends out there but in one particular example the persons name is given. Since the underlying theme of the article is that these e-mails are either stupid or the writer is somehow mentaly deficient using the mans name seems almost like a personal attack.

My point is, after reading this article there appears to be a bit of a double standard in effect here.

[K7JBQ]

Quote[/b] (W8EFA @ Aug. 17 2005,16:39)]I am struggling with the apparent feelings of a lot of hams on here that QRZ is providing a public service and are to be highly commended.

Please correct me if I am wrong but it is my understanding that QRZ is a commercial venture to make money. #Without us #subscribers there would be no advertising and there would be no QRZ.

I like QRZ alot. #It is a very nicely layed out, good informationional website. However there are other sites I like better for Reviews etc. #The reason I come to QRZ are the forums and the call lookup. #My only complaint is the moderators can be somewhat heavy handed at times. #They may want to keep in mind the impact on their revenues if the posters don't visit, we might want to keep in mind that we are making them money by visiting!
I guess I should mention that QRZ.com does not have a profit sharing plan, at least one that includes the moderating crew. Thus -- pure as the driven slush -- we moderate without pecuniary interest, as the feds would say.

73,
Bill

[K9STH]

UEY:

There was a post earlier in this thread by DPO about having the photo removed.

Glen, K9STH

[ab8ma]

Quote[/b] (KA4DPO @ Aug. 18 2005,06:47)]I just read a thread on the homepage entitled "The life of a QRZ Monitor". #In the thread the QRZ staffer points out some of the bone headded posts and E-mails they have to deal with. #I'm sure there are a lot of loose ends out there but in one particular example the persons name is given. #Since the underlying theme of the article is that these e-mails are either stupid or the writer is somehow mentaly deficient using the mans name seems almost like a personal attack.

My point is, after reading this article there appears to be a bit of a double standard in effect here.
Was that name by any chance WILLIAM R HOLLINGSWORTH ? That was a clue to the state of mind of the person who sent the quoted email. It was most likely not WILLIAM R HOLLINGSWORTH . Look him up.

On second thought, maybe it was. I was confusing the name with Riley Hollingsworth. Or is Riley really William Riley?

To ramble on further, I answered my own question. K4ZDH is WILLIAM R HOLLINGSWORTH aka Riley Hollingsworth.

[KE7DFP]

Unidentified stealth monitors, easedropping on public posts without warrants, acting without a judges signature, keeping things peaceful and catching evil doers in the act. #How can one break the rules when their constitutional rights our constantly assailed? This is very bad, this is like.........the QRZ PATRIOT ACT! # # Hi Hi

[K6UEY]

K9STH,
Tnx Glen,yes I recall reading about a picture of some canning jar lids being removed,but the report taken out of context did not seem to mean much,I was not aware of the incident,so the comment had little meaning.

The discussion I was having was from the comment from GW4RCM,who was inquiring about what took place with DAN and his banning and reinstatement.

There was some question about the cast of players ,and how DAN of all people got caught up in the frenzy.

No one can say QRZ is not exciting,it seems to drop into the doldrums with topics inquiring what everyone had for dinner and how often they have a bowel movement,then the next minute several names appear on the banned list under circumstances no one could have imagined.

Seems too bad the internet could not have been designed to have been put to better use. I had an idea of having a use specific forum where Amateur Radio operators could get together and share the technical aspects of what is now called a Hobby,but I don't think anything that dull would ever fly.

It does however serve a useful purpose,in that it is an outlet for some to blow off steam,and act childish,more better on the internet, where it is considered normal, than on the air and disgrace the Amateur Ranks.

Have a good day!! I know I will...........73, #ORV
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif