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n2nh
06-17-2005, 03:45 AM
"Extremely hard to find power supply for the HW-9 QRP radio." at least not the over used "rare". Still $150.00 for a used QRP power supply?? You can buy NEW specialized ones from MFJ or Radio Shack for about a 1/4 that. This one's banged up and dented too. Someone's pulling my leg!

Heathkit PSA-9 QRP Power Supply for HW-9 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1502&item=5782142248&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

K8YS
06-17-2005, 04:43 AM
scratches and dents makes it and antique. $1.00 per scratch.

N2ACX
06-17-2005, 10:54 AM
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Well it seems many prices for used gear is getting to be "nutso" Just look at the ads for radio gear anywhere, eBay,
QRZ or any of the "Ham Swap" sites. This one for the HW-9 is what happens when one 'fries his brain' LOL

Once in a while there is, what I would concider, a 'fair price', but not often. Any more If I am looking for something for amateur radio, I just go to HRO or AES etc since the difference in what some of these guys want and the cost of a new item is not that far off, and I get the warranty.

73 GARY N2ACX

ae1x
06-17-2005, 02:24 PM
Quote[/b] (N2ACX @ June 17 2005,05:54)]http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #
# #Well it seems many prices for used gear is getting to be "nutso" Just look at the ads for radio gear anywhere, eBay,
QRZ or any of the "Ham Swap" sites. This one for the HW-9 is what happens when one 'fries his brain' LOL
#
# #Once in a while there is, what I would concider, a 'fair price', but not often. Any more If I am looking for something for amateur radio, #I just go to HRO #or #AES #etc since the difference in what some of these guys want and the cost of a new item is not that far off, and I get the warranty.

# # # # 73 GARY #N2ACX
The person selling the item, probably, believes this to be collectors item that some collector would place premium on, thus the price. If it doesn't sell, he will either hold it for future consideration or reduce the price so it moves.

Ken

k7unz
06-17-2005, 02:42 PM
If you want another laugh......check his "other items" list.

At the bottom is the HW-9, listed as "partially unbuilt." Does that mean it was once built, but now has been "unbuilt"......???

Another example of why I no longer buy on ebay....

Jim/k7unz

n2nh
06-17-2005, 03:05 PM
Quote[/b] (N2ACX @ June 17 2005,06:54)]http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Well it seems many prices for used gear is getting to be "nutso" Just look at the ads for radio gear anywhere, eBay,
QRZ or any of the "Ham Swap" sites. This one for the HW-9 is what happens when one 'fries his brain' LOL

Once in a while there is, what I would concider, a 'fair price', but not often. Any more If I am looking for something for amateur radio, I just go to HRO or AES etc since the difference in what some of these guys want and the cost of a new item is not that far off, and I get the warranty.

73 GARY N2ACX
Yep, the problem is this isn't for the HW-9 transceiver, it's for the power supply! Shudder! Ham radio IS getting a bit too expensive and I feel sorry for those getting started. The HW-7, HW-8 and HW-9 QRP radios are an excellent and inexpensive way of getting on the air, but this is ludicrous price gouging. Any power supply (3 amps and over) that's regulated can easily get you on the air with these rigs. In fact, key down is less than ONE watt which makes them excellent for portable and field operation... but $150??

Madness. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

KA8NCR
06-17-2005, 03:12 PM
Quote[/b] (k7unz @ June 17 2005,07:42)]If you want another laugh......check his "other items" list.

At the bottom is the HW-9, listed as "partially unbuilt." Does that mean it was once built, but now has been "unbuilt"......???

Another example of why I no longer buy on ebay....

Jim/k7unz
Unbuilt means they stripped out the microphonics. I had a HW-7 as my first rig and it toooook forever to get that first contact with it. But once I learned how, I racked up lots of them with 3 watts on 40 meters.

I'm sorry, but I would hope MOST people would see that this beauty is nothing more than a 12 volt one amp DC supply. You can get that at Rat Shaft new for $30.

KC0W
06-17-2005, 03:43 PM
You could purchase that $150 Heathkit power supply and have it sit next to this eBay gem: Collins Rig (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4675&item=5781565325&rd=1) THIS IS INSANITY!!!!



Tom kcØw

n2nh
06-17-2005, 03:57 PM
Quote[/b] (kc0w @ June 17 2005,11:43)]You could purchase that $150 Heathkit power supply and have it sit next to this eBay gem: Collins Rig (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4675&item=5781565325&rd=1) THIS IS INSANITY!!!!



Tom kcØw
At those prices it should be flawless. I noticed that the Frequency Display is extremely hard to read. Looks like the lens over it is either scratched or opaque. "One only has to look past these very minor flaws..." minor flaws my patootie! Worse yet, I just checked and the seller bought this rig w/ Speaker and Power Supply in May at this page:

Gigabux Collins Part I (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4675&item=5776395105)

He's asking for over 10X what he paid for it. I guess the Speaker and Power Supply will be a separate listing and cost the same Gigabux he's asking for this.

W2LYS
06-17-2005, 04:17 PM
Quote[/b] ]You could purchase that $150 Heathkit power supply and have it sit next to this eBay gem: Collins Rig THIS IS INSANITY!!!!

What's the difference between the 32S-3A and the KWM-2A? It looks pretty much the same... I worked on the KWM-2A early in my AF career...

KD6NIG
06-17-2005, 04:34 PM
They are overpriced simply because some people think that eBay is the only place you can purchase stuff on the internet.

I have bought and sold on it, but I usually limit myself to small ticket items, and on selling stuff I try to be descriptive as possible. I also am reasonable-a 10 year old radio I sold wasn't posted for the price I paid for it new, I'm sorry, but 10 years of use definetely falls into the USED category.

I do know of people who go to swapmeets, etc, and buy stuff, then mark it up and sell it on eBay, and make money doing it. Course, the only reason why it works is because somebody buys it.

I tend to limit my purchases to under $25 on there, and check other places first before making the purchase. It tends to be 50/50, sometimes its a little cheaper on eBay because of shipping, sometimes its cheaper for me to hop in the car, drive the 2 hours to HRO, and get it there. And, lately with HRO charging 0 shipping for over $100 in stuff, I don't even have to drive sometimes.

When I recently purchased a 2m/440 radio, I got it from HRO, simply because on eBay it would have cost me $50 more. The next day when I looked again, someone had paid that price for that same radio I saw. Same with research into power supplies....they sell on there for $20-50 more with shipping, would have to go to HRO as shipping would cost on a heavy item, but still cheaper to burn the gas for the 2 hour trip. But, when I looked for the first radio I ever had (RS HTX-202) I got one for $42, though I have seen them also go on there for up to $100, and without batteries, I got 2 with mine.

So, apparrantly people aren't doing thier homework, don't care....or whatever. A little research goes a long way. Sometimes they are better, but 75% of the time they are usually worse.

On the price of radios though-I have seen HF gear go up (I only casually look at prices, I'm a NCT) but some of the stuff I use has gone down. My new dualbander would have been $100 or so more 2 years ago. So, its probably going both ways.

I simply view eBay as another online store, albiet one where you have to be a bit cautious as you aren't dealing with a store itself, such as with HRO. Sometimes they beat everyone, most of the time they don't. Just another site I check when I'm looking for something. Sometimes its good, sometimes it isn't, and if the price difference isn't much, I tend to go with the large corporation vs a private seller simply because of trust.

Your mileage may vary, as they say.

KC0W
06-17-2005, 04:44 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ June 17 2005,14:57)]Quote[/b] (kc0w @ June 17 2005,11:43)]You could purchase that $150 Heathkit power supply and have it sit next to this eBay gem: Collins Rig (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4675&item=5781565325&rd=1) THIS IS INSANITY!!!!



# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # Tom kcØw
At those prices it should be flawless. #I noticed that the Frequency Display is extremely hard to read. #Looks like the lens over it is either scratched or opaque. #"One only has to look past these very minor flaws..." minor flaws my patootie! #Worse yet, I just checked and the seller bought this rig w/ Speaker and Power Supply in May at this page:

Gigabux Collins Part I (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4675&item=5776395105)

He's asking for over 10X what he paid for it. #I guess the Speaker and Power Supply will be a separate listing and cost the same Gigabux he's asking for this.
Good investigative work..........This guy is really something else.

Purchase something for $500 and try to sell it for $6500. Only in America.

Tom kcØw

W0LPQ
06-17-2005, 05:51 PM
32S-3A is a transmitter. KWM-2A is a transceiver.

73

Bill, W0LPQ

n2nh
06-18-2005, 07:53 PM
Talk about getting a reputation:

http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/nq/2005/nq050618.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

kb2vxa
06-19-2005, 10:00 PM
Hi guys,

"Purchase something for $500 and try to sell it for $6500. Only in America."

Is Queens NY in America? I know a 6 Land Transplant with a warehouse full, no wonder he has a warehouse full and not empty.

A warning should be posted wherever appropriate, "Please do not feed the vulturtes.".

WR2E
06-19-2005, 10:12 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ June 17 2005,04:57)]bought this rig w/ Speaker and Power Supply in May at this page:

Gigabux Collins Part I (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4675&item=5776395105)

He's asking for over 10X what he paid for it. #
I don't believe it's the same radio...

One is a 32S-3 the other a 32S-3A !

73 de Jeff

W0LPQ
06-19-2005, 10:29 PM
I agree with 2E, the S-3A is a Rockwell Collins, while the S-3 is a Round Emblem Collins. Big difference.

73

Bill, W0LPQ

WA2ZDY
06-19-2005, 11:55 PM
Unfortunately the Heath HW7/8/9 rigs have taken off in value. Not just on ebay but everywhere. I would love to have an HW8 or 9, but they're out of my price range now. (By the way, the partly unbuilt HW9 has not had the WARC band kit added. He includes the kit but in kit form.)

The power supply, while I think that price is nuts, is a "part" of the already overpriced HW9 and as such probably WILL sell to a collector for an obscene price. Not because of what it is, but because it "goes with" the HW9.

Sad but true.


I too had an HW7 as a Novice. Used it mounted to my bicycle if you can imagine that. Made contacts on 40 with it too. Nice rig but the microphonics in the direct conversion receiver were awful. Oh well.

kc7flr
06-20-2005, 01:07 AM
Quote[/b] (kc0w @ June 17 2005,08:43)]You could purchase that $150 Heathkit power supply and have it sit next to this eBay gem: Collins Rig (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4675&item=5781565325&rd=1) THIS IS INSANITY!!!!



# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # Tom kcØw
YOWZA! You could buy 2 IC-756ProIIIs, 3 FT-1000MP Mk IVs, or 4 TS-2000s for that price!

I know there's quite a few Hams who collect Colins rigs, but that price is absolutely rediculous!

When will the insanity end?

Are they trying to price vintage gear out of reach for the average Ham?

kc7flr
06-20-2005, 01:12 AM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ June 17 2005,08:57)]Quote[/b] (kc0w @ June 17 2005,11:43)]You could purchase that $150 Heathkit power supply and have it sit next to this eBay gem: Collins Rig (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4675&item=5781565325&rd=1) THIS IS INSANITY!!!!



# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # Tom kcØw
At those prices it should be flawless. #I noticed that the Frequency Display is extremely hard to read. #Looks like the lens over it is either scratched or opaque. #"One only has to look past these very minor flaws..." minor flaws my patootie! #Worse yet, I just checked and the seller bought this rig w/ Speaker and Power Supply in May at this page:

Gigabux Collins Part I (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4675&item=5776395105)

He's asking for over 10X what he paid for it. #I guess the Speaker and Power Supply will be a separate listing and cost the same Gigabux he's asking for this.
That isn't the same rig. The one he bought has the round logo while the one he's selling has a Rockwell Collins logo.

KD7WHQ
06-20-2005, 07:06 AM
N2NH, did you get permission from Wiley to post that?

I did years back to post one specific dated strip on my site.

Thought I'd ask..

n2nh
06-20-2005, 05:36 PM
Quote[/b] (KD7WHQ @ June 20 2005,03:06)]N2NH, did you get permission from Wiley to post that?

I did years back to post one specific dated strip on my site.

Thought I'd ask..
It's a link. The image isn't copied and pasted, it's actually on His site. I'm certain that he doesn't have a problem with his own post. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

If you right click on the link and click on "properties" you'll see that the location is at http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/nq/2005/nq050618.gif

n2nh
06-20-2005, 05:51 PM
Quote[/b] (WA2ZDY @ June 19 2005,19:55)]Unfortunately the Heath HW7/8/9 rigs have taken off in value. Not just on ebay but everywhere. I would love to have an HW8 or 9, but they're out of my price range now. (By the way, the partly unbuilt HW9 has not had the WARC band kit added. He includes the kit but in kit form.)

The power supply, while I think that price is nuts, is a "part" of the already overpriced HW9 and as such probably WILL sell to a collector for an obscene price. Not because of what it is, but because it "goes with" the HW9.

Sad but true.


I too had an HW7 as a Novice. Used it mounted to my bicycle if you can imagine that. Made contacts on 40 with it too. Nice rig but the microphonics in the direct conversion receiver were awful. Oh well.
If that's the case, I'm glad I got my HW-8 and HW-9 when it was fairly affordable. I probably overpaid a bit on one of the 9's but it was WARC and guaranteed in complete working order by the Owner who was pretty well known was using it to pass NTS traffic. (Pretty interesting story - worked NTS on it for about 2 months too). Still, add a outboard DSP or a decent CW filter to one of these and they're probably about as good as anything out there.

For these prices you could save up a little bit more and get the FT-817 or IC-703 both with multi-mode and WARC bands...
Speaking of bikes, I sometimes operate my FT-817 from mine, but I doubt if I could send CW while riding. I tend to use FM Phone.

Now if only Red Hot Radio was still in business...

n2nh
06-20-2005, 10:05 PM
hmmm... looks like they have different badges alright. Could be that he's replacing a rig he owns. Still, wouldn't a round badge Collins be worth more than a Rockwell one (which he's looking to sell for $6,500)? I wonder what his asking price would be for the round badge version? The thing is they seem to have more than one serial number. I looked at one of the photos of the rigs and it's S/N (inside of the chassis) was different than in the description.