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PE1RDW
05-27-2005, 08:37 AM
Some peolpe mentioned that you can decompress the messages send over the air if you have the modem and manage to capture the whole session.
You don't even have to do that, you can simply log into someones account and you don't even have to use the call of you "victum" on air, you can simply telnet into the mbos, give the call you want to read the waiting email for preceding with a dot and use the default password that is the same for all users, the hostnames, ports and password can all be found in the telpac program you can download from the winlink website.
I'm not sure if you will be breaking any laws this way, I have information on all the laws of the country you life in but I know it is not breaking in because the passwords are public, it's like walking into a building where the key is left on the outside of the door.

K4AY
05-28-2005, 11:59 AM
Quote[/b] ]it's like walking into a building where the key is left on the outside of the door. #That would be a crime in the United States. #My postal service mailbox is not locked, either. #Opening it and removing the mail is a crime in the United States. #Beware that moral relativism does not become a slippery slope.

A quick test is to ask yourself if this is yours, if not, it is someone else's. #If it belongs to someone else, then it is not yours. #If it is not yours, taking it is wrong.

Hope this helps.

W3MIV
05-28-2005, 01:19 PM
It is astonishing to me to think that anyone could feel that, because I leave a key to my house under the mat for anyone to find, it is not criminal (or even immoral) to enter my abode without my permission. For any purpose whatever.

Such a notion bespeaks the near total dissolution of morality that seems to be a hallmark of the current age.

ai4ep
05-28-2005, 03:50 PM
I just hope that the security is better than the person who made the first post s ...spelling !!

W5HTW
05-29-2005, 03:47 AM
If Winlink is secure, it is illegal on the ham bands.

Ed

PE1RDW
05-30-2005, 11:35 AM
Looks like the legal question is answered, here in the Netherlands it is mandetory by law to have some protection, for exsample the licence regulations state that I have to make some arangement that my trx can't be easely used by someone else, turning it off is enough precaution tough. If I where to leave my car unlocked on the street I could get fined for giving the oppertunety for a crime.In the virtual world it is even worse, if I leave a server without protection it can be seen as a server for public use and it is legal to enter it.
Because I'm not alowed to use winlink for anything else then comunication with other hams I don't care about it's securety but I understand some of the costumers of the winlink system do care.

ps ai4ep: English is not my native language, be happy it is readable at all http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

KF0RT
05-30-2005, 12:25 PM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ May 28 2005,07:19)]It is astonishing to me to think that anyone could feel that, because I leave a key to my house under the mat for anyone to find, it is not criminal (or even immoral) to enter my abode without my permission. For any purpose whatever.
What's the point in having a lock, then?

73, Rob

KA8NCR
05-30-2005, 02:40 PM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ May 28 2005,08:50)]I just hope that the security is better than the person who made the first post s ...spelling !!
Un-called for, ungentlemanly and really disappointing considering the international nature of our hobby. Petty, I'd say.

PE1RDW is obviously DX and English isn't his first language. But I'd bet that English isn't his only "other" language.

Can you speak and write multiple languages? Perhaps he should have just written it in his native language, I'm sure it would have been Q5 copy for you.

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