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N8CPA
05-24-2005, 11:11 AM
May 24, 1844. Alfred Vail in Baltimore, MD, awaited word from Samuel Morse in Washington DC. At the appointed time, the contraption connecting them spoke the Biblical phrase from Numbers 23:23--"What hath God wrought" and with those words, the telecommunications age was born.

May 24, 1844: "What hath God wrought"

May 13, 2005: "I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance."

W5HTW
05-24-2005, 01:04 PM
"What hath God wrought?" Hmmmm. I thought it was, "Would you like to save money on your home mortgage?"

kb2vxa
05-24-2005, 01:19 PM
Hi again,

May 24 1844, Vale's invention which the moneyed Morse took credit for was demonstrated by Morse sending "What hath God wrought?" but what the history books won't tell you is what Vale tapped back, "But it won't save you any money on car insurance.".

OK, here's another funny one, well, maybe only to history buffs and assorted techies. Bell didn't invent the telephone, his assistant did when Bell's attempts to invent multiplexed telegraphy failed. All Bell managed to do was spill acid on himself while fiddling with his electrolytic microphone. Along comes Edison who perfected BOTH of Bell's experiments beginning with tone multiplexed telegraphy. Working for Bell Telephone he came up with the carbon microphone, much safer and the company took over America.

So powerful it became thanks to a guy who just wouldn't give up even the mighty government can't kill the beast. They cut off Bell's head and it grew AT&T, IT&T, Lucent, (was Bell Labs and Western Electric) Verizon and Darth Vader. That's right, listen to that voice and compare it with what you hear on the Verizon TV commercials. Anakin Skywalker found a more powerful Force, MONEY.

Now will somebody PLEASE show those radio ops in the Rebel Alliance how to tune in an SSB signal?

"The missile impacted and I wasn't here."
James Earl Jones in The Hunt For Red October.

KA4DPO
05-25-2005, 12:42 AM
Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ May 24 2005,04:11)]May 24, 1844. #Alfred Vail in Baltimore, MD, awaited word from Samuel Morse in Washington DC. #At the appointed time, the contraption connecting them spoke the Biblical phrase from Numbers 23:23--"What hath God wrought" and with those words, the telecommunications age was born. #

May 24, 1844: #"What hath God wrought"

May 13, 2005: #"I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance."
And the response was " I don't know why we have to do this Morse Code crap". Thus began the code no code debate.

W5MEJ
05-25-2005, 01:19 AM
Anytime someone quotes "What hath God wrought", I think sadly of another date in the history of CW...

Quote[/b] ]CQ CQ CQ DE NMN NMN
BT
010001Z APR 95
FM COGARD CAMSLANT CHESAPEAKE VA/NMN
TO ALL
BT
USCG NOW CLOSING DOWN CONTINUOUS HF CW WATCH CEASING ALL MORSE CODE OPS IN THE HF BAND. AS WE CONCLUDE OUR WATCH WE WISH THE MARITIME COMMUNITY FAIR WINDS AND FOLLOWING SEAS. WE ARE PROUD OF OUR TRADITION AND LONG STANDING SERVICE TO THE MARINER ON MORSE CODE BEGINNING IN 1901 WITH THE REVENUE CUTTER SERVICE EXPERIMENTING WITH WIRELESS AS A MEANS TO COMMUNICATE ON LAND AND SEA TO THE FIRST MORSE CODE RADIO INSTALLED ABOARD CUTTER GRANT IN 1903. OUR ORIG COMMS MISSION WAS TO RCV DISTRESS ALERTS. BUT SINCE 1901 THE CG HAS FAITHFULLY AND DILIGENTLY LISTENED FOR TRAFFIC RESPONDING TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CALLS FM MARINERS IN NEED OF ASSIST OR RPTG POSITION WX NAV OR SAFETY INFO. OVER THE YRS WE HAVE PROVIDED MARINERS WITH URGENT SAFETY AND NAV WARNINGS OVER HF CW AND RCVD VESSEL LOCATION UPDATES FOR THE AMVER SYS. WE WILL FEEL A SENSE OF LOSS WITH THE PASSING OF CW. THE NEED FOR OPERATORS WITH SENSITIVE EARS AND A FAST PRECISE KEY WILL BE REPLACED BY COMPUTERS MODEMS AND AUTO ALARMS. THE SPECIAL EMOTION AND EXCITEMENT ENJOYED BY CW OPERATORS CANNOT BE DUPLICATED AND THE CHILLING SOS SIGNAL WILL NEVER AGAIN BE RCVD BY A CG UNIT. BUT CW HAS RUN ITS COURSE AND NOW WE LOOK FWD TO SERVING YOU ON THE NEXT GENERATION OF COMM SYSTEMS VIA THE GMDSS. FM ALL CG TELECOMM SPECIALISTS WE BID YOU A 73. WHAT HATH GOD WROUGHT. SIGNED CG CAMSLANT.
BT
DE NMN SK
73
Chuck

ai4ep
05-25-2005, 01:48 AM
So is it this thread that another " code / no code debate " begins ?

It might be better if some one goes and looks up the OLD THREAD on that subject and we just add to it...... ? !!

Remember it...I think it had 107 or 117 pages on it... ?

k4kyv
05-25-2005, 04:47 AM
Quote[/b] (kb2vxa @ May 24 2005,06:19)]...maybe only to history buffs and assorted techies. Bell didn't invent the telephone, his assistant did when Bell's attempts to invent multiplexed telegraphy failed. All Bell managed to do was spill acid on himself while fiddling with his electrolytic microphone. Along comes Edison who perfected BOTH of Bell's experiments beginning with tone multiplexed telegraphy. Working for Bell Telephone he came up with the carbon microphone, much safer and the company took over America.
Bell & associates were not the only ones working on the telephone. Elishia Gray was only two hours behind Bell to file his patent.
history fair (http://pinecrestschools.com/thousandoaks/elementary/04-05projects/5historyFair/shok.htm)

Gray was also the inventor of the Telautograph, a device to electrically transmit handwritten messages. These machines were in widespread use as late as the 1980's.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/T/Te/Telautograph.htm

Does anyone know if there are still any in operation? I repaired them in the late 70's. They were used in hospitals, airports, concrete plants, chemical plants and many other industrial areas. Unlike teletype machines that required keyboard operation, all the operator had to do was pick up a pen and write a message longhand, and the servo mechanisms in the receiving unit, equipped with a pen and ink system, reproduced the handwritten message at the remote site.

n2nh
05-25-2005, 05:18 AM
Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ May 24 2005,06:11)]May 24, 1844. Alfred Vail in Baltimore, MD, awaited word from Samuel Morse in Washington DC. At the appointed time, the contraption connecting them spoke the Biblical phrase from Numbers 23:23--"What hath God wrought" and with those words, the telecommunications age was born.

May 24, 1844: "What hath God wrought"

May 13, 2005: "I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance."
May 13, 2005. Yet another code-no code debate begins...

al7n
05-25-2005, 11:49 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ May 24 2005,22:18)][quote=N8CPA,May 24 2005,06:11]Washington DC. #At the appointed time, the contraption connecting them spoke the Biblical phrase from Numbers 23:23--"What hath God wrought" and with those words, the telecommunications age was born. #
Actually the Contraption Vail and Morse used didn't really
"speak" to them in that sense...it embossed the Morse Code characters (that Vail mostly figured out) on a strip of paper tape, and they decoded it from that.

It was some time later they found out that the incoming information could be "read" from the clicking of the register's electromagnet armature and that it was actually faster/easier to do so and write it down rather than decoding the embossed tape...then it could be said that the Morse sounders actually "spoke" to the operators. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

WA3KYY
05-27-2005, 02:12 PM
Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ May 24 2005,21:47)]Does anyone know if there are still any in operation? #I repaired them in the late 70's. #They were used in hospitals, airports, concrete plants, chemical plants and many other industrial areas. #Unlike teletype machines that required keyboard operation, all the operator #had to do was pick up a pen and write a message #longhand, and the servo mechanisms in the receiving unit, equipped with a pen and ink system, reproduced the handwritten message at the #remote site.
Probably been replaced by wired/wireless tablet PCs. We have a bunch of them where I work for recording data and observations in our laboratories where we cannot bring the paper out due to possible contamination. It has replaced the FAX machine and scanner for the most part as well for that purpose. Just use Notes and print across the LAN.

73,
Mike WA3KYY

W2FHO
05-27-2005, 04:41 PM
CODE SHOULD ALWAYS BE PART OF HAM RADIO.PLEASE DO NOT DROP THE CODE FROM THE HOBBY,LOVE CW.:) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

kf6rdn
05-27-2005, 05:10 PM
Quote[/b] (W2FHO @ May 27 2005,09:41)]CODE SHOULD ALWAYS BE PART OF HAM RADIO.PLEASE DO NOT DROP THE CODE FROM THE HOBBY,LOVE CW.:) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
It may or may not drop from testing, I don't see it dropping from ham radio as long as many enjoy it. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

N8CPA
05-27-2005, 05:26 PM
In the absence of the requirement fewer and fewer people will be interested, and the native language of the International Amateur Radio Service will disappear. Because of the requirement for all these past decades, HF Amateurs worldwide can be considered a kind of trans-racial ethnic group, the remaining keepers of a minority language. #And since language deprivation is what balkanizes and eventually destroys ethnic groups, elimination of the code requirement constitutes a kind of genocide.

[If NCI can call the requirement discrimination, then the users and practitioners of the fundamental radio art can be just as extreme].