Vatican radio officials convicted

[w0aew]

A Roman Catholic cardinal and a priest in charge of Vatican Radio have been convicted of polluting the atmosphere with powerful electromagnetic waves.

Cardinal Roberto Tucci and Father Pasquale Borgomeo were given suspended 10-day jail sentences.

The Italian court also ordered them to pay damages and court costs.

Two scientific studies have suggested a field of Vatican Radio broadcasting antennas north of Rome may have caused high rates of cancer in the area.

The first, in 2001, found that magnetic fields around the transmitters were much higher than normal limits allow.

The full story is here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4531247.stm).

[W2ILP]

I don't know if you guys know it but after Marconi left England (where he was alledged to have been involved with sock market fraud) he returned to Italy. Marconi was welcomed by Musollini, and made the head of a Physics Institute. One of his first accomplished was to set up a microwave link between the Vatican and the Pope's summer home which was known as Castle Rondolpho. This information is astounding because Americans could not believe that Marconi had been able to transmit and receive at microwave frequencies at that time. I kid you not. This is true and is fully documented. Marconi was the first inventor to realize that radio signals were, like light, electromagnetic waves. He experimented with many frequencies and tried to use frequencies as high as he could manage to generate. Microwave devices were also recovered on a sunken ship that belonged to Marconi when it was recovered after WW2. Tesla and Popov only tried to use electrostatics for signaling. During WW2, when Marconi was in Italy, Tesla who had been granted US citizenship was officially recognized by the US as the inventor of radio. The USSR recognized Popov as the inventor of radio. This was all political.

IMPORTANT!!!
On the cancer from Microwave radiation:
I believe that Microwaves can cause cancer in humans if the humans are exposed to the microwaves for long periods of time...like more than 30 years. I think that Marconi's Vatican link has been in use longer than that. I wonder how much cancer we will see when cell phones are in common use for over 30 year?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
No Kidding...Just something to think about!

w2ilp (Italy's Linking Popes)

[k6pme]

Perhaps it should be taken up with the self-proclaimed Pope Dood I. (w3sy) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ai4ep]

Well, it could always get worse !!

ai4ep ( always intelligent 4 educated people )

[kd5kfl]

My definition of the worse it can get no worse than...

Rap tuba

[k4kyv]

Quote[/b] (W2ILP @ May 09 2005,16:18)]Marconi was the first inventor to realize that radio signals were, like light, electromagnetic waves.

I doubt that Marconi was particularly concerned about the light-like nature of radio signals.

Electromagnetic waves were first mathematically postulated by James Clark Maxwell (http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/biography/Maxwell.html) in 1873.

In 1887 Heinrich Rudolf Hertz (http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Biographies/HertzBio.htm) tested Maxwell's hypothesis. He used an oscillator made of polished brass knobs, each connected to an induction coil and separated by a tiny gap over which sparks could leap. Hertz reasoned that, if Maxwell's predictions were correct, electromagnetic waves would be transmitted during each series of sparks.

Marconi (http://nobelprize.org/physics/laureates/1909/marconi-bio.html) was more a business man than a scientist or inventor. He immediately saw the commercial value of Hertz' wireless demonstrations, particularly regarding communication with ships at sea, and was instrumental in the exploitation of this technology for public use.

[N0KLT]

Quote[/b] (kd5kfl @ May 09 2005,18:07)]My definition of the worse it can get no worse than...

Rap tuba
Ever hear the record "Dueling Tubas". That gave one a whole new perspective on Deliverence. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W2ILP]

4kw:
Maxwell and Hertz may have predicted that there could be electromatic waves but Marconi was the first one to actually use electromatic waves for distant signaling.

I can predict that long exposure to microwaves might cause cancer in many people who are predisposed to getting cancer but nobody is going to do anthing about it until a significant number of VIPs who used cell phones for over thirty years actually get cancer themselves and sue all of the cell phone makers. I am sure that nobody will remember what W2ILP predicted...and i myself will be long dead (hopefully of other more natural causes because I only use wired phones).

Just in case I do get remembered I hope that they name the unit of harmful microwave radiation the Wexelbaum. Remember guys...You saw it here first!

Enuf sed.

w2ilp (Initial Lethal Prediction)

[W2ILP]

k4kyv

Did you read the boigraphy about Marconi which you were good enough to provide a link to? I don't dispute anything that is in it.
I have read even more about Marconi.
Among other facts the linked article tells that Marconi buily a Microwave link from VC to Castel Gandolfo (I spelled it wrong in the other post) as easly as 1932!

From what I learned many years ago when researching all the inventors who were involved with radio.Marconi was a self directed inventor but a very poor business man. When he was in England he had to borrow money to set up for trans Atlantic experimenting. He got involved with partners who sold stock in an original British Marconi Company. His early partners over sold the ideaof long range radio communication before it was perfected. Early experiments were failures or at least not always repeatable due to poor knowledge about the fickleness of HF propagation. The Marconi stock lost its value. As result the stock touters and Marconi were defamed in England and Marconi brought his equipment to Italy. He by himself continued to experiment and to teach others about the construction of radio receivrers and transmitters of increasing capability.
Thus Marconi was the father of Radio, although not recognized as such in the USA.
Now if you want to know about a good business man then you can talk about Sarnoff who followed Marconi around when he first visited the USA like a puppy dog...and later built the Radio Corporation of America and managed to get the FM frequencies used by Armstrong changed.

Another great business man in the USA was Walt Disney, who never could draw a Mickey Mouse, but who degraded the enployee who invented Mickey Mouse and who was moved to California to continueto work in Disney's studios.

If we look at what Marconi was able to do by himself after leaving England alone and with no assistants we can see that most of the improvements he was able to make were his own inventions.

I liked Marconi because I myself am not a good business man.
I don't know when to shut up and I keep talking until anyone who might be interested in buying what I am supposed to be trying to sell gets convinced that he doesn't need it.

w2ilp (Inventors Lose Publicity)

[w3sy]

Quote[/b] ]A Roman Catholic cardinal and a priest in charge of Vatican Radio have been convicted of polluting the atmosphere with powerful electromagnetic waves.

Cardinal Roberto (Rubber Duck) Tucci and Father Pasquale (The Unit 243) Borgomeo were given suspended 10-day jail sentences.

The Italian court also ordered them to pay damages and court costs.

Two scientific studies have suggested a field of Vatican Radio broadcasting antennas north of Rome may have caused high rates of cancer in the area.

The first, in 2001, found that magnetic fields around the transmitters were much higher than normal limits allow.

WHADDABOUDIT SKIPLAND, SKIPLAND, SKIPLAND!!

Mercy sakes, they musta been runnin' some BODACIOUS leenyer on that thar raydiddio! Ain't NOBODY gettin' the cotton pickin' break unless the Pope Channel Master GIVE ya the break!

TAIN FOAR!!

[W2ILP]

Well at last we have something that can be blamed on men in the Vatican, which just might be the fauilt of them not knowing all there is to know about modern RF radiation control. #Now if they only could learn something about modern methods of birth control....

Another thing this story helps to clear up is that cancer from RF can not be blamed on a worldwide Jewish conspirasy.

Millions of people have cheered the Popes while expopsed to RF fields that may or may not have effected their health.
Hmmmm...Maybe they should have gone to another city where miracles can cure the sick. # Does God punish believers whose faith heals there minds while the Papal radiation gives them brain cancer? # Aparently the Italian Government is moved more by the same kind of regulations that our FCC must require here.

I've always been for separation of church and state and now I'm also for separation of belivers from microwave radiation.
But we must always respect the Popes because if we do not we are disrespecting many people who do, and we might even get blown out of the "mainstream". # I don't care if my opinions aren't "mainstream...so long as I'm not in the main lobe of a microwave antenna.

For God so loved the common man that he gave them the CB band and let the Popes radiate the much more dirty, dense and dangerous microwaves. 666...10-4

w2ilp #(Illuminated L-Band Popes?)

[k4kyv]

Quote[/b] (W2ILP @ May 10 2005,08:02)]From what I learned many years ago when researching all the inventors who were involved with radio.Marconi was a self directed inventor but a very poor business man. When he was in England he had to borrow money to set up for trans Atlantic experimenting. He got involved with partners who sold stock in an original British Marconi Company. His early partners over sold the ideaof long range radio communication before it was perfected. Early experiments were failures or at least not always repeatable due to poor knowledge about the fickleness of HF propagation. The Marconi stock lost its value. As result the stock touters and Marconi were defamed in England and Marconi brought his equipment to Italy. He by himself continued to experiment and to teach others about the construction of radio receivrers and transmitters of increasing capability.
Thus Marconi was the father of Radio, although not recognized as such in the USA.
From the linked article:

Quote[/b] ]Even as a boy he took a keen interest in physical and electrical science and studied the works of Maxwell, Hertz, Righi, Lodge and others. In 1895 he began laboratory experiments at his father's country estate at Pontecchio where he succeeded in sending wireless signals over a distance of one and a half miles.

The point is, it was Maxwell and Hertz who postulated and demonstrated the phenomenon of electromagnetic radiation in the form of radio waves. Their interest was more in the realm of scientific curiosity, and they did not propose anything useful to do with electromagnetic waves. Marconi was struck with the idea that these waves would be practical as a medium of wireless communication between land and ships at sea, and he began experimenting with apparatus that would work towards this end. Maybe he was a poor business man, but he succeeded in taking radio out of the science lab and creating the wireless communications industry.

[W2ILP]

k4kyv,

Maxwell's equations were a mathematical summation of all electromagnetic as well as electrostatic phenonema...You can even derive Ohm's law from one of them. They were not utilized by Maxwell to invent radio or anything of a practical physical nature. If I can explain mathematically what may be the nature of dog dung it does not follow that I can make it myself or use it for any useful purpose.

What Hertz did was make a high frequency transformer. The primary was a spark coil. The secondary was a loop of wire. When a small gap was cut in the secondary loop and the primary was activated a small spark jumped across the secondary gap. Hertz developed the theory that if we have a primary coil energized by an alternating current the electromagnetic field may induce electrical energy into a secondary that need not be directly electrically wired or connected to the primary. He said that the AC field was electromagnetic in nature and it could couple primary to secondary by the electromagnetics that were mathematically described by Maxwell. Now if you make a transformer you could do the same thing using an iron laminated core at 60 Hertz. At RF frequencies we can use an air core and still be quite efficient.
So all Hertz did was make an RF AC transformer.

Marconi, when experimenting in Italy as a young boy actually transmitted RF over distances as great as several kilometers. His brother carried a rifle and when he received a dot of signal from Marconi he fired the rifle. It was Marconi's idea to use this long range RF transformer for signaling at a distance using codes such as telegraphers were already using on land lines. It was Marconi who built a detector called a coherer in the radio receiver. In my book that is radio. An RF transformer by itself is not a radio.

Father of Electromagnetic unified theory = Maxwell
Father of RF Transformers = Hertz
Father of Radio (as we now know it) = MARCONI

Ancient Greeks discovered electrostatics by rubbing cat's fur on amber. They named electricity for the Goddess Electra.
As far as I know they didn't invent any practical use for electricity even though they knew it existed as a phenomena.

I know that H bombs exist but I can't make one or use one for any practical purpose myself...I'm sure the world is glad of that.
and to tell the truth I am too.

Yes it was Marconi who started the whole industry of radio communication becase he was the father of radio...Just as I said to begin with.

w2ilp (Initially Limited Phenonema)

[kb2vxa]

Hi all,

"Cardinal Roberto Tucci..."

Isn't that Jewish slang for "tuchs"? Yeah, I figured it's a**-inine.