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kg4kww
03-03-2005, 06:28 PM
NASA receives A strange and powerful burst of radio waves from near the center of our galaxy. Why don't they (NASA) admit that they have found life and don't know how to communicate with it?
A strange and powerful burst of radio waves from near the center of our galaxy (http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/03/03/space.burst.reut/index.html)
AB8TM
03-03-2005, 06:39 PM
I don't think they would be able to communicate with it if it was intelligent, I would think that it would just be a beacon.
Also, I don't know how much evidence they have to presume it is intelligent.
kl7aj
03-03-2005, 07:02 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 03 2005,11:28)]NASA receives A strange and powerful burst of radio waves from near the center of our galaxy. Why don't they (NASA) admit that they have found life and don't know how to communicate with it?
A strange and powerful burst of radio waves from near the center of our galaxy (http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/03/03/space.burst.reut/index.html)
Intergalactic BPL....just what we need. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Eric
kc7rs
03-03-2005, 07:14 PM
Quote[/b] ]Experts nickname mysterious source a 'burper'
Sounds more like Intergalactic CB.
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 03 2005,11:28)]NASA receives A strange and powerful burst of radio waves from near the center of our galaxy. Why don't they (NASA) admit that they have found life and don't know how to communicate with it?
If I am passing by a bar and hear a "burper," I cannot presume I have found *intelligence*!
Cortland
KA5S
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 03 2005,11:28)]and don't know how to communicate with it?
As for communicating... assuming for the sake of argument (plenty of argument here) that these signals are the product of intelligence, we do know how to communicate with it: I figure we should be able to do so in about two hundred years, assuming we colonize the solar system and build a large enough antenna.
Then wait millennia for an answer.
gw4rcm
03-03-2005, 07:59 PM
If , and only If, this is a data burst of information from another planet, then we can assume that we are also sending out the same info, into space.
And also assuming that alien life are deciphering our information, and know what our life is all about, then I think we would be on their ignore list.
RCM
The center of our galaxy is 30,000 light years from the sun.
If it is life what are the chances that they will be alive when our reply gets there.
Obviously they are calling CQ.
Think about how long it will take to get the E-QSL. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
w5klb
03-03-2005, 08:23 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 03 2005,11:28)]NASA receives A strange and powerful burst of radio waves from near the center of our galaxy. Why don't they (NASA) admit that they have found life and don't know how to communicate with it?
A strange and powerful burst of radio waves from near the center of our galaxy (http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/03/03/space.burst.reut/index.html)
If you read a little closer they strongly suspect it came from an "exotic" star know as a "magnetar". Being this close to the center of the galaxy with the temperature as hot as it is, and with in close proximity to a black hole emitting X-Rays, I kinda doubt they found life.
I hope I'm wrong. It would be nice to find out that we finally have neighbors!
KC0KBH
03-03-2005, 10:01 PM
Quote[/b] (kc7rs @ Mar. 03 2005,06:14)]Quote[/b] ]Experts nickname mysterious source a 'burper'
Sounds more like Intergalactic CB.
Is there a farter too?
N7CPC
03-04-2005, 12:23 AM
Maby thats why the mars landers all have bumper stickers that say "Get Out Of My Way, I'm Tryn' to Photograph That Damn Rock!" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
It's A.P.R.S. !!!!
Space aliens run APRS too!
I knew this ham radio stuff would pay off.
KC0REY
03-04-2005, 04:51 AM
1 meter in wavelength. Is that VHF or UHF? CW must have been abolished there as these signals are digital. Things that make you go Hmmmmmmm..... A galactic NCT.
For you flamers.......I are (pun intended) a NCT myself and am studying code and plan to use it........hopefully......maybe.....Jeez! I can't decide!!!!
Actually, I am learning to copy it quite well but recently at a Ham Fest was unable to figure out how to work a keyer (2 paddles, side by side), nobody wanted to explain it either. They just wanted to sell it.
Steve
[edit] I think learning code is like learning music. First you learn to hear he music, then you have to learn how to play it on the guitar, piano, etc.
k6pme
03-04-2005, 05:59 AM
Quote[/b] (ka5s @ Mar. 03 2005,12:40)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 03 2005,11:28)]and don't know how to communicate with it?
As for communicating... assuming for the sake of argument (plenty of argument here) that these signals are the product of intelligence, we do know how to communicate with it: #I figure we should be able to do so in about two hundred years, assuming we colonize the solar system and build a large enough antenna. #
Then wait millennia for an answer.
But what if WE were the more advanced life form? Would THEY be able to communicate with US?
Quote[/b] (KG6QQL @ Mar. 03 2005,22:59)]But what if WE were the more advanced life form? Would THEY be able to communicate with US?
You can (eventually) find ANYTHING on Google™
See
http://physorg.com/news3231.html
The signals were received with the Very Large Aperture radio telescope . See
http://www.vla.nrao.edu/memos/test/235.pdf
(Interesting stuff.)
How strong are they? Well, from http://www.3towers.com/RadioSpectrumWars.htm
"A cellular phone used on the Moon produces a strong signal compared to most radio astronomical signals "
The Moon is about 1.35 light-seconds away from Earth. The galactic center is some 26,000 light-years away, or 607,360,000,000 times farther than the Moon. Since the source power will be proportional to the square of the ratio of the distances, that galactic source is running about one cellphone (.3 watts) times 607,360,000,000 squared, or
110,665,850,880,000,000,000,000 watts ERP.
We're less advanced!
Cortland
KA5S
kb2vxa
03-04-2005, 04:46 PM
Hi stargazers,
Ordinarily one thinks "mother ship" but in the case of a burper it was likely TI from the local repeater. (Pun intentional.)
73 de (URP, not ERP) Warren KB2VXA