N5PVL
02-09-2005, 11:33 AM
Looking back in my Weblog (http://www.hamblog.com/blog_n5pvl.php) to September 4th, 2004, I found some info that is relevant to recent discussions (http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=7;t=80786) here at QRZ.
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This came in yesterday from Mike Baugh W8AKF:
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- The meat of the report that the ARRL demands you not see:
Although I've been told that whatever my position is with ARRL, will be compromised if I publish the AD HOC members dissenting report, here is the meat of the report that ARRL demands you not see:
This same perpetrator has hoodwinked the ARRL since 1983.
73 Mike
The majority recommendation of the ARRL hfdigital committee represents the interests of a small special interest group, Winlink, representing 0.007% of the FCC licensed radio amateurs in the United States, and NOT the interests of ALL radio amateurs, as requested by ARRL president, Jim Haynie.
The ARRL hfdigital committee majority recommendation [hfdigital:284] was composed and written jointly by the Winlink author, W5SMM, and the Winlink Network Administrator, K4CJX, and then rubber-stamped, without comment except for typo corrections, by the Winlink supporters on the committee, WA1LOU and K0PFX.
All alternative recommendations were totally ignored by the chairman and Winlink supporters. At no time during the committee discussions did WA1LOU or K0PFX submit any independent comments or suggestions except for corrections. The chairman of the committee, who is also the Winlink software author, consistently shut off discussion prematurely and forced a vote, which was naturally won by the Winlink majority, eventually resulting in the resignation of the widely respected Peter Martinez, G3PLX, in protest for having his views silenced.
The committee majority recommendation therefore represents the views of a special interest group, and NOT the interests of all radio amateurs.
This dissenting recommendation is submitted as a recommendation that at least attempts to consider the needs of ALL radio amateurs, including Winlink.
Introduction
Winlink consists of a network of fully automated digital transceivers, providing free email gateways to the Internet using the ham bands in competition with commercial LEO satellite services which do the same thing, but charge for messaging on a per-minute basis.
This network of fully automated transmitters is causing historically high levels of interference to all other radio amateur activities on HF because the automated side of an email gateway is incapable of "listening first", or frequency sharing, as radio amateurs usually do, and are required to do, by FCC regulation, and the other side, which is supposed to be manned by a "listen first" live operator, finds it unnecessary to be concerned about anyone else already on the frequency, because the protocol chosen by Winlink is capable of overpowering anyone else on the frequency, and keep hammering away using ARQ until the Winlink station dominates the frequency. The result is high levels of QRM to all others.
In addition, the manual stations escape detection by never transmitting any callsign identification in case they try to connect with an automatic station and fail. They just create QRM and leave the air unidentified.
The majority recommendation proposes to expand this network of robot transmitters to completely cover the ham bands without restriction, including the phone band segments, with the exception of the CW and beacon regions. This chart of the current coverage of the 20 meter band by Winlink robots indicates why interference by these robots is so high and currently disrupts so many other traditional radio amateur communications.
It is easy to visualize what it would be like if the majority recommendation were accepted by the Board. There would be no space left on the HF bands for ragchewing, DX chasing, award-chasing, contesting, or experimentation, free from constant interference from Winlink robot stations, such as suffered currently by digital operators, and more recently, on 30 meters by CW operators, who find it more and more difficult to operate without a Pactor station suddenly coming on the frequency in the middle of their QSO.
The ARRL Board should be promoting bandplans that encourage the development of more spectrum-efficient modes, such as PSK31 and MFSK16, which accomplish the essential task of communications in less bandwidth, as opposed to promoting wider data modes which add to the interference and congestion on HF bands instead of reducing it.
Another point related to the WinLink2000 stuff taking up too much space and QRM'ing people:
Since the proposed system will be under ARES, the PACTOR III QRM will be "emergency communications" that you just plain old cannot complain about.
Cute, huh?
My recommendation is that the WinLink2000 software and the WinLink2000 people all get the heave-ho, right out of any of the ARRL's future business.
This kind of cynical underhandedness has no place in the hobby in the first place, and most certainly has no place within the ARRL.
These folks are troublemakers, and deserve the boot.
Let's give it to them.
Charles Brabham, N5PVL #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Note: All comments pertaining to PACTOR III in the above apply just as well to SCAMP, another wide-mode digital mode that will behave much as PACTOR III does, on the air. - If it ever gets past the "vaporware" stage, which is in doubt.
At the time this weblog was posted, Jim Haynie was still successfully pretending an unbiased position in all of this mess.
Recent postings by Jim here on QRZ show that this is not the case. - Jim is a Liddite, a person who thinks that ham radio is obsolete and who sneers at those who use "pure RF". - Jim wants to put our amateur radio activities on the Internet. - Ham radio is just not good enough for him.
The important thing is to get as many ham radio activities off the air and onto the Internet as possible.
Jim Haynie has secretly harbored this sicko attitude for quite a while, apparently, but he only came out in the open about it a few days ago. I had heard unverified reports that Jim was up to his ears in this scam months before, but I did not take them seriously until Jim's behavior here at QRZ verified it.
Great attitude for the president of the ARRL to take, huh?
Yes, it is definately time for a shakeup at ARRL HQ... Time to take out the trash.
The info in this old weblog has several callsigns to consider for the ARRL HQ Lid List, and now there's Jim Haynie, W5JBP who has identified himself as being part of the Liddite clique.
Has anybody been left out? Let's drag this nest of corruption and anti-ham thinking out into the open.
The ARRL needs a good deal more transparency and accountability. The BPL issue is too important to let some inept clowns at ARRL HQ distract us from that issue with thier corrupt antics.
If hams had known what these people were up to from the start, this problem would have been nipped in the bud... A lot more of our energy and resources would have then gone into the BPL issue at this critical time.
Charles Brabham, #N5PVL
Director: USPacket (http://www.uspacket.org)
Admin: HamBlog.Com (http://www.hamblog.com)
Weblog: N5PVL's #Blog (http://www.hamblog.com/blog_n5pvl.php)
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This came in yesterday from Mike Baugh W8AKF:
Quote[/b] ]
- The meat of the report that the ARRL demands you not see:
Although I've been told that whatever my position is with ARRL, will be compromised if I publish the AD HOC members dissenting report, here is the meat of the report that ARRL demands you not see:
This same perpetrator has hoodwinked the ARRL since 1983.
73 Mike
The majority recommendation of the ARRL hfdigital committee represents the interests of a small special interest group, Winlink, representing 0.007% of the FCC licensed radio amateurs in the United States, and NOT the interests of ALL radio amateurs, as requested by ARRL president, Jim Haynie.
The ARRL hfdigital committee majority recommendation [hfdigital:284] was composed and written jointly by the Winlink author, W5SMM, and the Winlink Network Administrator, K4CJX, and then rubber-stamped, without comment except for typo corrections, by the Winlink supporters on the committee, WA1LOU and K0PFX.
All alternative recommendations were totally ignored by the chairman and Winlink supporters. At no time during the committee discussions did WA1LOU or K0PFX submit any independent comments or suggestions except for corrections. The chairman of the committee, who is also the Winlink software author, consistently shut off discussion prematurely and forced a vote, which was naturally won by the Winlink majority, eventually resulting in the resignation of the widely respected Peter Martinez, G3PLX, in protest for having his views silenced.
The committee majority recommendation therefore represents the views of a special interest group, and NOT the interests of all radio amateurs.
This dissenting recommendation is submitted as a recommendation that at least attempts to consider the needs of ALL radio amateurs, including Winlink.
Introduction
Winlink consists of a network of fully automated digital transceivers, providing free email gateways to the Internet using the ham bands in competition with commercial LEO satellite services which do the same thing, but charge for messaging on a per-minute basis.
This network of fully automated transmitters is causing historically high levels of interference to all other radio amateur activities on HF because the automated side of an email gateway is incapable of "listening first", or frequency sharing, as radio amateurs usually do, and are required to do, by FCC regulation, and the other side, which is supposed to be manned by a "listen first" live operator, finds it unnecessary to be concerned about anyone else already on the frequency, because the protocol chosen by Winlink is capable of overpowering anyone else on the frequency, and keep hammering away using ARQ until the Winlink station dominates the frequency. The result is high levels of QRM to all others.
In addition, the manual stations escape detection by never transmitting any callsign identification in case they try to connect with an automatic station and fail. They just create QRM and leave the air unidentified.
The majority recommendation proposes to expand this network of robot transmitters to completely cover the ham bands without restriction, including the phone band segments, with the exception of the CW and beacon regions. This chart of the current coverage of the 20 meter band by Winlink robots indicates why interference by these robots is so high and currently disrupts so many other traditional radio amateur communications.
It is easy to visualize what it would be like if the majority recommendation were accepted by the Board. There would be no space left on the HF bands for ragchewing, DX chasing, award-chasing, contesting, or experimentation, free from constant interference from Winlink robot stations, such as suffered currently by digital operators, and more recently, on 30 meters by CW operators, who find it more and more difficult to operate without a Pactor station suddenly coming on the frequency in the middle of their QSO.
The ARRL Board should be promoting bandplans that encourage the development of more spectrum-efficient modes, such as PSK31 and MFSK16, which accomplish the essential task of communications in less bandwidth, as opposed to promoting wider data modes which add to the interference and congestion on HF bands instead of reducing it.
Another point related to the WinLink2000 stuff taking up too much space and QRM'ing people:
Since the proposed system will be under ARES, the PACTOR III QRM will be "emergency communications" that you just plain old cannot complain about.
Cute, huh?
My recommendation is that the WinLink2000 software and the WinLink2000 people all get the heave-ho, right out of any of the ARRL's future business.
This kind of cynical underhandedness has no place in the hobby in the first place, and most certainly has no place within the ARRL.
These folks are troublemakers, and deserve the boot.
Let's give it to them.
Charles Brabham, N5PVL #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Note: All comments pertaining to PACTOR III in the above apply just as well to SCAMP, another wide-mode digital mode that will behave much as PACTOR III does, on the air. - If it ever gets past the "vaporware" stage, which is in doubt.
At the time this weblog was posted, Jim Haynie was still successfully pretending an unbiased position in all of this mess.
Recent postings by Jim here on QRZ show that this is not the case. - Jim is a Liddite, a person who thinks that ham radio is obsolete and who sneers at those who use "pure RF". - Jim wants to put our amateur radio activities on the Internet. - Ham radio is just not good enough for him.
The important thing is to get as many ham radio activities off the air and onto the Internet as possible.
Jim Haynie has secretly harbored this sicko attitude for quite a while, apparently, but he only came out in the open about it a few days ago. I had heard unverified reports that Jim was up to his ears in this scam months before, but I did not take them seriously until Jim's behavior here at QRZ verified it.
Great attitude for the president of the ARRL to take, huh?
Yes, it is definately time for a shakeup at ARRL HQ... Time to take out the trash.
The info in this old weblog has several callsigns to consider for the ARRL HQ Lid List, and now there's Jim Haynie, W5JBP who has identified himself as being part of the Liddite clique.
Has anybody been left out? Let's drag this nest of corruption and anti-ham thinking out into the open.
The ARRL needs a good deal more transparency and accountability. The BPL issue is too important to let some inept clowns at ARRL HQ distract us from that issue with thier corrupt antics.
If hams had known what these people were up to from the start, this problem would have been nipped in the bud... A lot more of our energy and resources would have then gone into the BPL issue at this critical time.
Charles Brabham, #N5PVL
Director: USPacket (http://www.uspacket.org)
Admin: HamBlog.Com (http://www.hamblog.com)
Weblog: N5PVL's #Blog (http://www.hamblog.com/blog_n5pvl.php)