More deaths in Iraq

[gw4rcm]

Report today from Iraq of another 12 American soldiers
killed in action, to the run up to the Iraqi elections.
When is this madness likeley to end, if ever?
RCM

[gw4rcm]

Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Jan. 07 2005,16:21)]it will end when the bad guys are DEAD DEAD DEAD.

Since they seem bent on teaching CHILDREN to hate, then it may never end, but I hope we (the USA) are there until peace is finally assured.
That is the problem my friend , Exactly what they are saying about us
RCM

[KB8VNP]

But, we are not suicidal about going to fight and kill Iraqis as the insurgents are suicidal about fighting and killing us! #Most of the insurgents are from other countries - not iraq!

[gw4rcm]

Quote[/b] (KB8VNP @ Jan. 07 2005,16:40)]But, we are not suicidal about going to fight and kill Iraqis as the insurgents are suicidal about fighting and killing us! #Most of the insurgents are from other countries - not iraq!
If I was an Iraqi, any foreigner in my country would be an insurgent.
RCM

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (gw4rcm @ Jan. 07 2005,15:40)]Report today from Iraq of another 12 American soldiers
killed in action, to the run up to the Iraqi elections.
When is this madness likeley to end, if ever?
RCM
When we leave.

How many will vote in the upcoming sham election? I predict 3,000. 200 to 300 of those will killed and injured.

Everyone else will try to stay away and stay alive that day.

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (gw4rcm @ Jan. 07 2005,16:29)]Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Jan. 07 2005,16:21)]it will end when the bad guys are DEAD DEAD DEAD.

Since they seem bent on teaching CHILDREN to hate, then it may never end, but I hope we (the USA) are there until peace is finally assured.
That is the problem my friend , Exactly what they are saying about us
RCM
No, it won't end. We will be there until the people of this country throw warmonger republican administrations out on their ear. Then we will be able to get out of this Vietnam rerun.

[N7AAO]

Okay, let's say there's between 1300 and 1400 Americans dead in Iraq so far.

If you look at Vietnam War Deaths and Casualties, by Month (http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwc24.htm), you'll see that so far over a year in Iraq wouldn't even be a bad month in Vietnam.

Consider a four-month stretch in 1968:

Casualties US, DHA (combat deaths):

Feb - 2124
Mar - 1543
Apr - 1410
May - 2169

Anyone wanna compare Iraq and Vietnam now?

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[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Jan. 07 2005,19:40)]Okay, let's say there's between 1300 and 1400 Americans dead in Iraq so far.

If you look at Vietnam War Deaths and Casualties, by Month (http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwc24.htm), you'll see that so far over a year in Iraq wouldn't even be a bad month in Vietnam.

Consider a four-month stretch in 1968:

Casualties US, DHA (combat deaths):

Feb - 2124
Mar - 1543
Apr - 1410
May - 2169

Anyone wanna compare Iraq and Vietnam now?

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Run this number of dead past fools that are dumb enough to buy it as having any credibility in showing iraq as not as bad a war as vietnam.

People dead in an unnecessary, immoral war in iraq or vietnam arer still people dead from unnecessary, immoral wars.

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Jan. 07 2005,18:40)]Okay, let's say there's between 1300 and 1400 Americans dead in Iraq so far.

If you look at Vietnam War Deaths and Casualties, by Month (http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwc24.htm), you'll see that so far over a year in Iraq wouldn't even be a bad month in Vietnam.

Consider a four-month stretch in 1968:

Casualties US, DHA (combat deaths):

Feb - 2124
Mar - 1543
Apr - 1410
May - 2169

Anyone wanna compare Iraq and Vietnam now?

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The Tet offensive occurred in 1968, one of the bloodiest periods of the whole fiasco. Also, the Vietnam war went on for how long? Almost 20 years?

Your selective quotation of Vietnam causalty numbers only is a feeble attempt to justify and spin this stupid Iraq adventure.

Both wars were (are) stupid. That's the comparison.


WX7B

[KB8VNP]

I don't think its "apples to apples" to compare '61 and '62 to the first two years or so of the current war. #There was no "thunder run" or even a comparable war plan for VN. #The first couple of years in VN we had advisors, right? #Different ROE, different plans, not comparable.

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (KB8VNP @ Jan. 07 2005,19:08)]I don't think its "apples to apples" to compare '61 and '62 to the first two years or so of the current war. #There was no "thunder run" or even a comparable war plan for VN. #The first couple of years in VN we had advisors, right? #Different ROE, different plans, not comparable.
It doesn't matter how you compare the wars, they were (are) stupid. Especially this one. We provoked it!

Spare me the Osama spin, please. There is no connection between 9/11 and Iraq and there were no WMDs.

What the heck are we doing there?

WX7B

[KB8VNP]

Enforcing what Saddam agreed to at the end of Gulf War I. #No fly in certain areas, yet he decided to shoot at our flight crews on a daily basis before the thunder run. #Sure, they talked of WMDs and if you go to Syria and other Muslim countries you will find them, but just as much was his escalated aggression against our air crews!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Jan. 07 2005,20:29)]Quote[/b] (wd0ct @ Jan. 07 2005,23:35)]Quote[/b] (gw4rcm @ Jan. 07 2005,16:29)]Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Jan. 07 2005,16:21)]it will end when the bad guys are DEAD DEAD DEAD.

Since they seem bent on teaching CHILDREN to hate, then it may never end, but I hope we (the USA) are there until peace is finally assured.
That is the problem my friend , Exactly what they are saying about us
RCM
No, it won't end. We will be there until the people of this country throw warmonger republican administrations out on their ear. Then we will be able to get out of this Vietnam rerun.
OH? you mean like the warmonger Roosevelt, the warmonger Truman, WW2 ended in 1945 but we still have standing troops in Germany, all the former Axis powers, there is still a standing army in Korea too. Where are the calls for an exit stratagy? where is your moral outrage, the same moral outrage you have for Iraq?

GROW UP
Is 'exit startegy' your latest sound bite? Your comparisons to germany, etc are pitiful.

WAKE UP!

[KB8VNP]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Jan. 07 2005,20:26)]Quote[/b] (KB8VNP @ Jan. 08 2005,04:08)]I don't think its "apples to apples" to compare '61 and '62 to the first two years or so of the current war. #There was no "thunder run" or even a comparable war plan for VN. #The first couple of years in VN we had advisors, right?
Ok, True Bob,
But you Can't take the Months Death toll from probably one of the Worst years in nam (68) and Compare it to current Conditions in IRAQ. #Lets move the Figures to say 64 or 65 and compare them to Iraq. #I think we Both know that the Death toll in Iraq is Probably going to get much higher. #These people are Nuts over there.
Remember in 61 and 62 the US "OFFICIALLY" #had NO ONE in Vietnam, #Well at least at that time that is what our Government was telling us! Later they admitted we had "Advisors" there.
Time will tell. I just hope it ends so our guys don't have to keep dying in that god forsaken Hole!
We Shouldn't even be there, that's My opinion!!

Gordon
Unfortunately, yes, the death toll will grow. #However, we ARE freeing these people from an especially brutal dictator and his regime. #To witness history, after WW I the league of nations was formed and we elected to be isolationists. #The result of that decision was WW II. #We can't afford to sit back and let these dictators come to power!

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Jan. 07 2005,19:29)]Quote[/b] (wd0ct @ Jan. 07 2005,23:35)]Quote[/b] (gw4rcm @ Jan. 07 2005,16:29)]Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Jan. 07 2005,16:21)]it will end when the bad guys are DEAD DEAD DEAD.

Since they seem bent on teaching CHILDREN to hate, then it may never end, but I hope we (the USA) are there until peace is finally assured.
That is the problem my friend , Exactly what they are saying about us
RCM
No, it won't end. We will be there until the people of this country throw #warmonger republican administrations out on their ear. Then we will be able to get out of this Vietnam rerun.
OH? you mean like the warmonger Roosevelt, the warmonger Truman, WW2 ended in 1945 but we still have standing troops in Germany, all the former Axis powers, there is still a standing army in Korea too. Where are the calls for an exit stratagy? where is your moral outrage, the same moral outrage you have for Iraq?

GROW UP
I agree Bob, we shouldn't have standing armies in Germany or Korea, either.

Blaming those conditions on Roosevelt and Truman solely is disingenuous. Those situations cut across, oh what, 50+ years and how many presidents both Republican and Democratic? Fortunately, Germany and Korea aren't "hot" like Iraq, so nobody is getting killed.

The Iraq mess is solely Bush's baby. Having said that, I don't care WHO started it, or who's in charge when it's over, it just needs to be over, NOW.

WX7B

[KL7FZ]

Quote[/b] (WX7B @ Jan. 07 2005,20:24)]Spare me the Osama spin, please. There is no connection between 9/11 and Iraq and there were no WMDs.

What the heck are we doing there?

WX7B
I always thought that starvation, mass executions, genocide, and torture are weapons of mass destruction.

#Sadam Hussein used all of the above to kill many many people. At what number does mass destruction come in play in your definition?
100? 1000? 10,000? 100,000?
Some sources say he killed that many or more. You want to try for a million?

#Mass destruction? He was a weapon of mass destruction. We found him and destroyed most of his machine so far. We just have to finish him/it off. Or should we just leave and let his cronies kill a few mil more?
#It begs the question, if your neighbor across the street was being robbed and beaten would you help or turn your back?
# The Iraqis are our neighbors in the world. Where do you draw the line?

KL7FZ

[K8YS]

OK GUYS, I just thought of something... this has been hashed and rehashed and NO ONE IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYONES MIND OR OPINIONS

Why don't we ALL just ignore the TROLL that starts these?


I hereby PLEDGE to IGNORE anymore of these posts and consider the source.

K8YS

[KL7FZ]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Jan. 07 2005,20:57)]Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 08 2005,04:45)]I always thought that starvation, mass executions, genocide, and torture are weapons of mass destruction.

#Sadam Hussein used all of the above to kill many many people. At what number does mass destruction come in play in your definition?
#Mass destruction? He was a weapon of mass destruction.
#It begs the question, if your neighbor across the street was being robbed and beaten would you help or turn your back?
# The Iraqis are our neighbors in the world.
So once we Got Saddam (The weapon of Mass destruction) we should have gotten out don't you think??
After all, You said our job was to get the weapon of Mass destruction. #Who said we needed to force them to be a Democracy??

The Iraq's are NOT our Neighbors. #Mexico and Canada are our Neighbors..

N6WK
Nope. In my post I said we got him and MOST of his machine so far. We need to finish the dismantling of that machine otherwise it continues.
And everyone on this little mudball in space is a neighbor. We are all in it together.

KL7FZ

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Jan. 07 2005,21:03)]Why don't we ALL just ignore the TROLL that starts these?
Already done, thanks. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Been spending my evening downloading Mozilla Firefox (web browser) and Thunderbird (mail client).

First impression... if you're familiar with Netscape, Firefox/Thunderbird will be no problem... since Netscape is based on Mozilla.

[KL7FZ]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Jan. 07 2005,20:57)]Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 08 2005,04:45)]I always thought that starvation, mass executions, genocide, and torture are weapons of mass destruction.

#Sadam Hussein used all of the above to kill many many people. At what number does mass destruction come in play in your definition?
#Mass destruction? He was a weapon of mass destruction.
#It begs the question, if your neighbor across the street was being robbed and beaten would you help or turn your back?
# The Iraqis are our neighbors in the world.
So once we Got Saddam (The weapon of Mass destruction) we should have gotten out don't you think??
After all, You said our job was to get the weapon of Mass destruction. #Who said we needed to force them to be a Democracy??

The Iraq's are NOT our Neighbors. #Mexico and Canada are our Neighbors..

N6WK
So the people two houses down are not neighbors? Three houses down? Where is your line there?
KL7FZ

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Jan. 07 2005,20:06)]Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Jan. 07 2005,21:03)]Why don't we ALL just ignore the TROLL that starts these?
Already done, thanks. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Been spending my evening downloading Mozilla Firefox (web browser) and Thunderbird (mail client).

First impression... if you're familiar with Netscape, Firefox/Thunderbird will be no problem... since Netscape is based on Mozilla.
Right AAO.

You are the one who quoted statistics from Vietnam out of context that started this round.

Don't EVEN attempt the high road on this one...


WX7B

[K8YS]

Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Jan. 08 2005,01:06)]Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Jan. 07 2005,21:03)]Why don't we ALL just ignore the TROLL that starts these?
Already done, thanks. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Been spending my evening downloading Mozilla Firefox (web browser) and Thunderbird (mail client).

First impression... if you're familiar with Netscape, Firefox/Thunderbird will be no problem... since Netscape is based on Mozilla.
I've have been using Firefox for atleast six months. I still need to keep IE on the computer for those sites that refuse to tell MSFT to kiss off, but I have not seen a single POP UP or POP UNDER since I loaded Firefox.

I was able to disable a program that I had running called "No Ads" since it still required you to tell it what was a popup before it filtered the popup.

I am using V1.0 now.

Firefox still has a few quarks, I find that I need to load plug-ins a lot, but many times, I do not since I am wary of spyware embedded in JAVA and VB scripts.

[k0ews]

Good choice on the Firefox and Thunderbird. I've used mine for the past 6 months, and am totally happy with them.
As for Iraq, I'm concerned. We have no exit strategy. Our armed forces were not trained to be occupiers and policemen; they were trained to go in, kill, win, and get out. They were not trained to go into another country and get picked off one by one. I initially supported Mr. Bush, gave him the benefit of the doubt, and still think that while Iraq may not have had WMDs, it was a Disneyland for terrorists passing though their country; along with Syria. That being said, we did well in the war, and now are sacrificing our people for nation building to a culture that clearly has not evolved to the point of being capable of handling democracy. The Brits went through this in the early 20th century, and that's probably why they set up monarchies. These people understand nothing but force, and we are trying to put them through democracy pre-school. Our military is stretched too thin, and there is no clear exit strategy nor end in sight; so in ways it is very comparable to Viet Nam.

[k9kjm]

Yes, GW4RCM seems to be nothing more than a troll.
Why dont you guys ask GW4RCM what the death toll and body count in his homeland United Kingdom, Or London is since they rolled over and gave up all rights to firearms?
For anyone who has not followed that story, The United Kingdom had a crime rate that was close to zero since the 1700's.......... # And did not start to go up until recently..... # The rapid rise in crime (And murder) in the United Kingdom follows the draconian anti firearms laws passed in that country forbidding private ownership of weapons, AND forbidding a homeowner from protecting his own home!!!!!
So GW4RCM can count bodies much closer to home, Where they are mounting fast.

[k5rna]

Was watching C-Span yesterday and one guest made an intersting statement.He said Many countries in europe do not like the U.S.A.Especially france but they do consider the U.S.and (I quote)their sugar daddy.They depend on us to bail them out if attacked by a forign country.

[k4kyv]

The world IS better off without Saddam, no doubt. But it is the whole world that benefits from his removal from power, Europe and the middle east more than the U.S. (unless we want to admit we went in there for the oil). Why was it up to US to go in, with self-righteous arrogance, and take him out? Why are WE obligated to bear over 90 percent of the expense in terms of money and lives, while the rest of the world disapprovingly stands by with a little token support at best?

The attitude of many French people now is "we could have told you." They got their butts kicked in jungle warfare in Indo-China; a few years later we ignored their experience and went into Viet-Nam and ended up getting our butts kicked in similar fashion. Next, the French were kicked out of Algeria (desert warfare in a country with a zealous Muslim/Arab population). Following the fall of Saddam, we now find ourselves in Iraq, taking on desert warfare against a similarly zealous Muslim/Arab enemy. If we ultimately fail there, why wouldn't the French once again feel justified in saying "we told you so?"

I remember a popular phrase that circulated amongst the draftees during the Vietnam era:

"We are the Unwilling, led by the Incompetent, to do the Unnecessary, for the Ungrateful."

At least we are not doing Iraq with a drafted army, but with things going the way they are right now, how much longer can that last?

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Jan. 08 2005,03:08)]At least we are not doing Iraq with a drafted army, but with things going the way they are right now, how much longer can that last?
Let's see:

Quote[/b] ]MOSUL, Iraq – The five Soldiers who make up the fire support team (FIST) for Company C, 1st Battalion, 23rd Infantry Regiment reenlisted in the same fashion they have performed every mission to date in Iraq: together. On June 20, the Soldiers raised their right hands in one of Saddam Hussein’s former palaces in Mosul and committed to another term of service.
Courtesy Task Force Olympia Public Information Office (http://www.tfopao.org/reenlist.htm)

Quote[/b] ]Army divisions that fought the past 12 months in Iraq have met virtually every re-enlistment goal, a sign that the all-volunteer force remains strong under the stress of frequent deployments and hazardous duty.
The Pentagon has been closely monitoring the re-up rate for five Army divisions that fought in Iraq for about a year. Some officials feared the time away from home and the gritty duty would prompt a large soldier exodus. After all, the war on terrorism is unchartered territory. The 30-year-old volunteer Army has never been this busy in combat.
But numbers compiled this week for the first half of fiscal 2004 show that those five combat units met, or nearly met, all retention targets for enlisted soldiers — the privates, corporals and sergeants who total 416,000 of the Army's 490,000 active force.
"This tends to rebut armchair critics who said the sky is falling and the vultures are circling and the Army is gong to lose all its troops," said Lt. Col. Franklin Childress, an Army spokesman at the Pentagon. "This is not true. The soldiers get it."
The Army also met its recruiting goal of 73,800 inductees last fiscal year, and 34,000 for the first six months of this fiscal year, which began Oct. 1.
Courtesy Washington Times (http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040401-115508-9161r.htm)

And, for something more recent:

Quote[/b] ]CAMP TAJI, Iraq, Jan. 7, 2005 — The U.S. Army's 4th Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, bid a fond farewell to 1st Battalion (Attack), 25th Aviation Regiment, an integral part of the Warrior’s lethal, agile team, during a ceremony at the Warrior Pad, Jan 3.

Originally intended to be a color casing, the ceremony was modified as a farewell to those soldiers going home. With elections in Iraq looming on the horizon, more than 100 soldiers from 1st Battalion (Attack), 25th Aviation Regiment, have extended their tour in support of additional security concerns.
Courtesy DefendAmerica News (http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/jan2005/a010705wm2.html)

There are lots more stories like these out there.

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[w6ez]

Pull US troops out of Iraq now!

Ask all other countries to do the same.

48 hours after last US troops leave, NUKE Iraq.

As for other Islamo-terrorist states that attack or threaten us, nuke them too.


Then we can all go eat pizza and watch the re-runs.

[W7WV]

No, it won't stop anythime soon, or at least I doubt it.
No draft yet, so only volunteers fight it, so far.
And the newer generation forgot what war is.
History, just history.

[KB8VNP]

Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Jan. 07 2005,21:03)]OK GUYS, I just thought of something... this has been hashed and rehashed and NO ONE IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYONES MIND OR OPINIONS

Why don't we ALL just ignore the TROLL that starts these?


I hereby PLEDGE to IGNORE anymore of these posts and consider the source.

K8YS
Good Advice, Bob. #Count me in to ignore trolls wherever they may be!

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[KL7FZ]

War on Trolls! Down with Trolls!

Wipe out all the trolls!

Let's take it to the troll home world.

The only good troll is a dead troll!


Now we have done it! The trolls will rise up and attack.
There will be suicide trolls. Covert trolls. Troll martyrs.
Trolls will commandeer Volkswagons and crash them #into prominent bridges.
#The war will go on forever. Both sides pot-shotting at the other. #
# The anti-troll propanganda will permeate our society.
# Trolls will dominate our newscasts. The daily troll count will be a focal point. Our losses will be mourned and the troll wars will be hotly debated by the Hawks and Doves.
#Anyone with troll in their ancestry will be interned in camps and interrogated.
#Wild-eyed vigilantes will patrol our streets looking for #trolls to kill and torture.
Our children will cower under their covers, afraid the trolls will be coming for them.
#Parents will have to look under the bed every evening to check and prove to their children that there no trolls hiding there.
#Old troll war veterans will look back and give shakey-voiced emotional accounts of their time locked in a life-and-death struggle with the trolls. Historians will review and discuss at length, the war and what really happened.
PBS and Ken Burns will do a documentary on the troll war.
#Songwriters will sing the praises of the heros and sing sad songs of loss.
#Jay Leno, Dave Letterman, et al, will make jokes about the troll ineptness in their monologues.
#Encyclopedia Britannica will put out a Troll addendum with pictures.
#Martha Stewart will show how to make lovely little troll canapes.
#Archaeologists will dig up battle sites and old troll villages and try to understand what led them to this point in history.
The Smithsonian will open a new wing dedicated to trolls with early troll dioramas.
#The War Department will honor troll war veterans with special medals.
#Candlelight vigils will be held to commemorate those lost in the troll wars.
#A new, highly-debated memorial will be erected on the mall in Washington, DC. Thousands will attend.
#
#Or we can just forget it all right now.
#Ah....nevermind.

Now about those NCTs. They are a REAL threat!

#KL7FZ

[G7HEU]

Quote[/b] (k9kjm @ Jan. 08 2005,00:57)]Yes, GW4RCM seems to be nothing more than a troll.
Why dont you guys ask GW4RCM what the death toll and body count in his homeland United Kingdom, Or London is since they rolled over and gave up all rights to firearms?
For anyone who has not followed that story, The United Kingdom had a crime rate that was close to zero since the 1700's.......... # And did not start to go up until recently..... # The rapid rise in crime (And murder) in the United Kingdom follows the draconian anti firearms laws passed in that country forbidding private ownership of weapons, AND forbidding a homeowner from protecting his own home!!!!!
So GW4RCM can count bodies much closer to home, Where they are mounting fast.
Regardless of the other arguments here you can't just make up nonsense about the U.K. having no crime until the 1700's.

You then suggest that crime in this country is fuelled by a lack of guns. What?

Here's an idea, let's both find a page on the internet to 'back-up' our points of view. I'll go first:

http://www.endevil.com/guncontrol.html

Scroll down to the table showing gun deaths per 100,000 people.

Steve.

[WB2RJR]

Oh, It's on the internet. It must be true!

73, Marty WB2RJR

P.S. In my life I've never met an evil inanimate object. Have you?

[G7HEU]

Quote[/b] (WB2RJR @ Jan. 09 2005,04:43)]Oh, It's on the internet. It must be true!

73, Marty WB2RJR

P.S. In my life I've never met an evil inanimate object. Have you?
Marty

What's your point? Are you disputing the fact the U.S.A. has a massively higher percentage of gun deaths the U.K?

Steve.

p.s. Re evil inanimates - yes, this @?*&%@ computer sometimes :-)

[G7HEU]

SEE - it's doing it now - stealing words. Should read:

'...deaths THAN the U.K.'

[KL7FZ]

Wow! It is a funny site. The evil hardware. I did notice that several of the countries mentioned are either ones we had to help liberate or beat the crap out of because they used guns on others in the list.
A disarmed UK is a vunerable UK. Just call when you need help again.

KL7FZ

[G7HEU]

Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 09 2005,04:57)]Wow! It is a funny site. The evil hardware. I did notice that several of the countries mentioned are either ones we had to help liberate or beat the crap out of because they used guns on others in the list.
A disarmed UK is a vunerable UK. Just call when you need help again.

KL7FZ
KL7FZ

What are you talking about? Is it WW2?

I guess it must be. Well buddy, when the U.S. ( finally) joined WW2 it had little to do with helping your British friends. Buy a history book.

More up to date, who is helping who at the moment? And no, our troops didn't have to worry about not being able to bring the gun previously kept in their sock drawer at home. Our army gave them a brand new one to use.

Keep smiling,

Steve.