voices from beyond the grave!!!!!

[kg4kww]

http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1266801.jpg

<span style='color:blue'>The tourists can still be heard on this Thai paradise isle, only now local people say they are voices from beyond the grave. This should convince you people that the un holy,the undead spirits of the unembalmed children of the night as dracula would say, are alive and well!!!!! #Read and Heed http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif #</span>

Former Paradise Catered to Backpackers, Now Deserted (http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/story?id=392500&page=1)

[kc7jty]

Ah....yes nothing like some religous crap to help things along. Just like politics in the USA, the masses need something to believe in.
Now there is belief in the disaster areas that God was displeased and showed it with the tsunamis. Now they have to figure what it was/is he's pissed about.

Religon is a wonderful thing...it fits perfectly into the heads of those who have way too much empty space in there.

[k9kxq]

http://216.77.188.54/editorial/images/10/4304410/04442401.jpg

EVP (electronic voice phenomonen) The dead communicating thru electronic devices.

kxq

[KB9YCO]

Organized Religion, practiced in it's extreme form, has done more damage, and caused more death, than any amount of tsunamis ever will.

[kc7jty]

In its mild form as well.

[KB9YCO]

I disagree with that, I know many religious people that are as tolerant and open-minded as anyone else, they just choose to believe what they believe and don't force it on anyone else. As it should be. Organized religion as a political force is the problem.

[N0KLT]

Sounds like those folks have been standing too close to the incense sticks while they were burning for waaaaaaaaaaaay too long. It certainly didn't take the superstitous types long to pop up and start frothing at the mouth. Wonder how many National Inquirer reporters are over there by now.

[KD7WHQ]

Actually, it doesn't surprise me at all.
Considering the scope of casualties and damage, not at all..

[KL7FZ]

Quote[/b] (KB9YCO @ Jan. 07 2005,12:22)]Organized Religion, practiced in it's extreme form, has done more damage, and caused more death, than any amount of tsunamis ever will.
Absolutely true! Hallelujah!!

KL7FZ

[KL7FZ]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Jan. 07 2005,14:30)]In its mild form as well.
Another truth! My God says he is the only God and the right one and if you don't believe it, I will have to beat you up (or worse) to prove it.
Remember, the basic concept of religion is conflict and the battle between good and evil. A continuing fight. And the preaching that you have to fight others that have different perceptions than yourself. #
#The middle east has been doing it for a long time. All over religion. Darn, you think they would all just sit down, have a drink and somthing to smoke and chill out. #But GOD is against that kind of stuff!

#I have always been amazed that otherwise rational and intelligent beings fall in to believing in religious precepts.
#And how some people can believe in God and not believe in extraterrestrial beings?
#Religion is the biggest can of worms in our society today and in our past.
That ought to turn on the heaters!

# KL7FZ

[KL7FZ]

Hey, some of the middle eastern news sources are saying that the US caused the earthquakes and tsunamis!

Well, let's not deny it. If fact, let's send them a message to straighten up or we'll send some more and bigger ones right at them. Tell 'em to run for cover, the next big one is on the way!

#God told us to do it!

#KL7FZ

[kg4kww]

Good ahead and make fun. But when the sun sets and the children of the night come out for a byte, you will awake from your dream with a scream.

The spirits of the dead talk.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 07 2005,10:05)]The spirits of the dead talk.
Been hearing them lately? What have they been saying?

[KL7FZ]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 08 2005,09:05)]Good ahead and make fun. But when the sun sets and the children of the night come out for a byte, you will awake from your dream with a scream.

The spirits of the dead talk.
Send them over. I'll give 'em a good poke with a pointy stick!

But there is a scenario I am really afraid of. Band of the Living NCTs. Talk about SCARY! #Oh my!

poke....poke.....

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

KL7FZ

BTW: They have to talk. They can't copy code.

[WB2RJR]

http://pauldavidson.blogs.com/wfme/2004/07/lights_wireless.html


Another reason to learn the code.

73, Marty WB2RJR

[W5HTW]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Jan. 08 2005,10:02)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 07 2005,10:05)]The spirits of the dead talk.
Been hearing them lately? What have they been saying?
Folks who hear voices from the non-living are the most frightening of all! And often, very dangerous.

One thing I have learned over the years, is when those folks warn you that a spirt is coming to get you, they may wind up doing the damage to you themselves, such as burning your house down, torturing your pets, etc., and then claim &quot;the demons did it.&quot; Yeah, buddy, you betcha.

Yep, God punished all those sinners in South Asia. Of course, he punished all the good religious folks, too. Not a very wise God. Or perhaps just very nearsighted.

Ed

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (WB2RJR @ Jan. 08 2005,21:40)]http://pauldavidson.blogs.com/wfme/2004/07/lights_wireless.html


Another reason to learn the code.

73, Marty WB2RJR
More proof that amateur radio operators are deranged.

[kg4kww]

Quote[/b] ] WB2RJR http://pauldavidson.blogs.com/wfme/2004/07/lights_wireless.html


Another reason to learn the code.

73, Marty WB2RJR

One more reason CW should be banned.

[kg4kww]

U of O researchers analyze voices “from beyond the grave” (http://www.uottawa.ca/services/markcom/news/2002/020424-e.html)

PARANORMAL VOICES ASSERT: (http://www.xs4all.nl/~wichm/deathnoe.html)

[kg4kww]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[kg4kww]

BOO http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (W5HTW @ Jan. 07 2005,20:08)]#

Yep, God punished all those sinners in South Asia. #Of course, he punished all the good religious folks, too. #Not a very wise God. #Or perhaps just very nearsighted.

Ed
Maybe he was a very F stupid god? Just the kind of god for very F stupid people.

[kg4kww]

Do not use the name of thy Lord thy God in vain.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 09 2005,12:34)]Do not use the name of thy Lord thy God in vain.
What name is that?

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 10 2005,14:34)]Do not use the name of thy Lord thy God in vain.
Kinda hard to use that on people who don't consider that god to be their god.... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[kg4kww]

I suggest that they read the bible, old testament.
Remember the plauges that hit egypt? think about the bad weather pounding sincity in the state of CA.

[KL7FZ]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 10 2005,22:03)]I suggest that they read the bible, old testament.
Remember the plauges that hit egypt? think about the bad weather pounding sincity in the state of CA.
How come people always thank GOD for healing or saving them but never blame him for the for the problems in the first place?

Massive earthquake and Tsunami kills thousands and people thank him for saving them. HuH??

KL7FZ

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 11 2005,02:34)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 10 2005,22:03)]I suggest that they read the bible, old testament.
Remember the plauges that hit egypt? think about the bad weather pounding sincity in the state of CA.
How come people always thank GOD for healing or saving them but never blame him for the for the problems in the first place?

Massive earthquake and Tsunami kills thousands and people thank him for saving them. HuH??

KL7FZ
It's called a healthy frame of mind... without regard to the reasoning, being thankful is good for one's health, and being angry isn't. There have even been a few medical studies showing this.

[KL7FZ]

Quote[/b] (KB1GYQ @ Jan. 10 2005,23:43)]Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 11 2005,02:34)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 10 2005,22:03)]I suggest that they read the bible, old testament.
Remember the plauges that hit egypt? think about the bad weather pounding sincity in the state of CA.
How come people always thank GOD for healing or saving them but never blame him for the for the problems in the first place?

Massive earthquake and Tsunami kills thousands and people thank him for saving them. HuH??

KL7FZ
It's called a healthy frame of mind... #without regard to the reasoning, being thankful is good for one's health, and being angry isn't. There have even been a few medical studies showing this.
Don't worry. Be happy.

Don't think. Ignorance is bliss.

Don't question. Accept. Concede.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Phooey on that!

#KL7FZ

[w2wtf]

Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 07 2005,19:15)]Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Jan. 07 2005,14:30)]In its mild form as well.
Another truth! My God says he is the only God and the right one and if you don't believe it, I will have to beat you up (or worse) to prove it.
Hey watch it buddy my God has a bigger **** than your God!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif lol

[w2wtf]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 10 2005,22:03)]I suggest that they read the bible, old testament.
Remember the plauges that hit egypt? think about the bad weather pounding sincity in the state of CA.
anyone know how big a cubit is? lol http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KC0NBW]

Quote[/b] (kg4foy @ Jan. 11 2005,01:08)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 10 2005,22:03)]I suggest that they read the bible, old testament.
Remember the plauges that hit egypt? think about the bad weather pounding sincity in the state of CA.
anyone know how big a cubit is? lol #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
82 dewsarnian ghyrtseds on a side! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 10 2005,01:13)]Don't worry. Be happy.

Don't think. Ignorance is bliss.

Don't question. Accept. Concede.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Phooey on that!

#KL7FZ
Welcome to America. &quot;Now assimilate or get the h*ll out&quot;.
No wonder the French consider us as the ignorant, juvenile, boobs we are.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (kg4foy @ Jan. 10 2005,02:08)]anyone know how big a cubit is? lol #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I believe its about 18 inches.....holy mackerel......!!

[kg4kww]

7JTY you are a very bad cadaver, trust me you will have an appt with the DEVIL unless you REPENT NOW!!

[KL7FZ]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Jan. 11 2005,10:45)]Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 10 2005,01:13)]Don't worry. Be happy.

Don't think. Ignorance is bliss.

Don't question. Accept. Concede.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Phooey on that!

#KL7FZ
Welcome to America. &quot;Now assimilate or get the h*ll out&quot;.
No wonder the French consider us as the ignorant, juvenile, boobs we are.
Who gives a pastry about what the French think??
They are just another third world country.

And they seem to have short memories.

KL7FZ

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Jan. 11 2005,13:47)]Quote[/b] (kg4foy @ Jan. 10 2005,02:08)]anyone know how big a cubit is? lol http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I believe its about 18 inches.....holy mackerel......!!
cubit: An ancient unit of linear measure, originally equal to the length of the forearm from the tip of the middle finger to the elbow

Which, or course, means that the King's purchasing agent has a long forearm, and the selling agent has a short forearm.

[kg4kww]

OK Dudes You all are being Very Bad Cadavers, stop this blasphemy and repent for your sins, or the voices of the dead will haunt you day in and day out. If you don't believe me, ask Clinton. And possibly a Tidal Wave or Earth Quake will pay you a visit if you don't.

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Jan. 11 2005,13:45)]Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 10 2005,01:13)]Don't worry. Be happy.

Don't think. Ignorance is bliss.

Don't question. Accept. Concede.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Phooey on that!

KL7FZ
Welcome to America. &quot;Now assimilate or get the h*ll out&quot;.
No wonder the French consider us as the ignorant, juvenile, boobs we are.
Hey, if 7 of 9 is doing the assimilating...

[kg4kww]

<span style='color:red'>OK Dudes You all are being Very Bad Cadavers, stop this blasphemy and repent for your sins, or the voices of the dead will haunt you day in and day out. If you don't believe me, ask Clinton. And possibly a Tidal Wave or Earth Quake will pay you a visit if you don't.</span>

[W5HTW]

I'm wondering how that tidal wave is gonna take out my house and leave my righteous neighbor's. Same deal: earthquake.

Reminds me of those old cartoons with the long haired dude in the flowing white robes wearing the sandwich boards that read &quot;REPENT. THE END IS NEAR.&quot; Never saw a real dude doing that, though.

A cubit concerns the middle finger? Ah, so THAT'S where that comes from.

Just think - in 1,000 years they'll be talking about The Great Flood - but they'll mean the one that sank California.

And they'll still be saying &quot;The End Is Near; Repent.&quot; Been saying that for two thousand years now, so what's another thousand or so?

Uh oh ... I hear voices. They're calling me. Beckoning me back to the end of the tunnel. No, the OTHER end. Something about, &quot;Get a Big Mac.&quot; Oh, wait - that's the TV in the other room. Darn. I thought I was having a religious experience.

Just heard voices again. One of them is calling .... wait, I can almost get it ... calling ... yes, it's clearer now (QSB, you know) ... ah, yes .... it says.... 'CQ Forty, CQ forty, CQ forty ... '

Wow! Two experiences in the same night.

Ed

[KB1GYQ]

http://lyst.org/Crap/repent.jpg

[kg4kww]

5HTW I suggest that you read the bible, old testament. Remember the plauges that hit egypt? Remember the cloud of death that bypassed the chosen peoples first born? think about the bad weather pounding sincity in the state of CA. Got the picture

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 12 2005,00:53)]5HTW I suggest that you read the bible, old testament. Remember the plauges that hit egypt? Remember the cloud of death that bypassed the chosen peoples first born? think about the bad weather pounding sincity in the state of CA. Got the picture
and just who is CA holding captive?

[KD7ZRT]

I'm glad to see all the athiests, agnostics, and other Godless Amateurs making their voices heard... I always thought I was the only one.

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Jan. 12 2005,01:26)]I'm glad to see all the athiests, agnostics, and other Godless Amateurs making their voices heard... I always thought I was the only one.
You may think this enigmatic, but I'm an exogamous monogamous eccentric esthetic laic, with eclectic enthusiasms; and an ardent exegetist whose expiator is Yeshua. I am almost always a skeptic, generally a freethinker, rarely not an agnostic, but never an atheist. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KD7ZRT]

Hurray for diversity!

[KC0NBW]

Quote[/b] (KB1GYQ @ Jan. 11 2005,21:55)]and just who is CA holding captive?
robert blake? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[KB8VNP]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 11 2005,21:53)]5HTW I suggest that you read the bible, old testament. Remember the plauges that hit egypt? Remember the cloud of death that bypassed the chosen peoples first born? think about the bad weather pounding sincity in the state of CA. Got the picture
KWW

How can you quote the Bible and then talk your talk about spirits in the night? ? ?

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (KB8VNP @ Jan. 12 2005,07:25)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 11 2005,21:53)]5HTW <span style='color:red'>I suggest that you read the bible, old testament.</span>Remember the plauges that hit egypt? Remember the cloud of death that bypassed the chosen peoples first born? think about the bad weather pounding sincity in the state of CA. Got the picture [color added for emphasis]
KWW

How can you quote the Bible and then talk your talk about spirits in the night? ? ?

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I guess he forgot Deut 18:10-12....

REPENT of your talking with the dead.

And from the last 1/3 of the book

I guess he forgot Luke 9:54-56...

REPENT of your godless vengeance.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 10 2005,18:17)]7JTY you are a very bad cadaver, trust me you will have an appt with the DEVIL unless you REPENT NOW!!
The only amazing thing about you is...I believe you are serious.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 10 2005,19:18)]Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Jan. 11 2005,10:45)]Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Jan. 10 2005,01:13)]Don't worry. Be happy.

Don't think. Ignorance is bliss.

Don't question. Accept. Concede.

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Phooey on that!

#KL7FZ
Welcome to America. &quot;Now assimilate or get the h*ll out&quot;.
No wonder the French consider us as the ignorant, juvenile, boobs we are.
Who gives a pastry about what the French think??
They are just another third world country.

And they seem to have short memories.

KL7FZ
You make progressive avant garde statements but you are all American after all.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (KB1GYQ @ Jan. 10 2005,19:23)]Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Jan. 11 2005,13:47)]Quote[/b] (kg4foy @ Jan. 10 2005,02:08)]anyone know how big a cubit is? lol #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I believe its about 18 inches.....holy mackerel......!!
cubit: An ancient unit of linear measure, originally equal to the length of the forearm from the tip of the middle finger to the elbow

Which, or course, means that the King's purchasing agent has a long forearm, and the selling agent has a short forearm.
I was close. Something I learned in my Jehovah witness days.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 10 2005,21:53)]<span style='color:red'>OK Dudes You all are being Very Bad Cadavers, stop this blasphemy and repent for your sins, or the voices of the dead will haunt you day in and day out. If you don't believe me, ask Clinton. And possibly a Tidal Wave or Earth Quake will pay you a visit if you don't.</span>
You're getting a bit monotonous.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (W5HTW @ Jan. 10 2005,22:41)]Uh oh ... I hear voices. # #Something about, &quot;Get a Big Mac.&quot; #
At least you realized it was the TV. Look at all the lardys in this country.....they think that same command is coming from a higher authority........no, not god.....Madison Avenue.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 10 2005,22:53)]the chosen peoples first born?
Who are the &quot;chosen peoples&quot;? and WHY were/are they chosen?

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Jan. 10 2005,23:26)]I'm glad to see all the athiests, agnostics, and other Godless Amateurs making their voices heard... I always thought I was the only one.
Hey...I like your signature line.

I'm a DEVOUT agnostic. I have a saying about atheists: &quot;Anyone who KNOWS there is no god is just as full of *^#@* as someone who knows there is one&quot;.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Jan. 11 2005,01:58)]Hurray for diversity!
Watch it! The G men who monitor the internet will be putting you into their little (big) black book.

[w2wtf]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Jan. 12 2005,10:46)]Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Jan. 10 2005,23:26)]I'm glad to see all the athiests, agnostics, and other Godless Amateurs making their voices heard... I always thought I was the only one.
Hey...I like your signature line.

I'm a DEVOUT agnostic. I have a saying about atheists: &quot;Anyone who KNOWS there is no god is just as full of *^#@* as someone who knows there is one&quot;.
I'm a militant agnostic &quot;I don't know and # YOU DONT EITHER!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[w2wtf]

Quote[/b] (W5HTW @ Jan. 11 2005,21:41)]Reminds me of those old cartoons with the long haired dude in the flowing white robes wearing the sandwich boards that read &quot;REPENT. #THE END IS NEAR.&quot; # #Never saw a real dude doing that, though. #
You've never been on the Bob Jones Univ. Side of Greenville SC have you? They exist trust me, militant fire breathing southern Babtist.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (kg4foy @ Jan. 11 2005,11:54)]I'm a DEVOUT agnostic. I have a saying about atheists: &quot;Anyone who KNOWS there is no god is just as full of *^#@* as someone who knows there is one&quot;.
I'm a militant agnostic &quot;I don't know and # YOU DONT EITHER!! # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]
Do you ever hear voices from no apparent source? Do you sometimes feel an overwhelming desire to (forcibly)&quot;help&quot; others see this the same way you do?

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (kg4foy @ Jan. 11 2005,11:57)]militant fire breathing southern Babtist.
pro Bushies eehh?

[kg4kww]

8VNP I'm a UT, I work with the dead everyday. And if you remember what Bella lagosi said in Dracula, about hearing the children of the night you would know he was talking about the undead, the unholy, evil, the devil.

I'm a Southern Baptist and Damn proud of it.

Amen Brother, Repent your evil ways or be cast into the fires of hell, the land of the undead.

[KB8VNP]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 12 2005,13:30)]8VNP I'm a UT, I work with the dead everyday. And if you remember what Bella lagosi said in Dracula, about hearing the children of the night you would know he was talking about the undead, the unholy, evil, the devil.

I'm a Southern Baptist and Damn proud of it.

Amen Brother, Repent your evil ways or be cast into the fires of hell, the land of the undead.
Dracula is fiction. #A classic to be sure but someone's overactive imagination!

I doubt that God lets the spirits roam.

What's funny is every &quot;happening&quot; you witness, i.e., corpses sitting up, is explained by science. #Whattya got to say about that!

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[KD7WHQ]

I could open a #10 can of worms here, but I won't.
KWW, the &quot;children of the night&quot; as you call them aren't only of the night, nor necessarily evil. Rarely that, in fact.
Misguided people, people with unfinished business. People who &quot;missed the bus&quot;. I thought we agreed on that. Ah well, if not..

[KG4CGC]

How do you know GOD said it?

[W0UZR]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 12 2005,15:30)]8VNP I'm a UT, I work with the dead everyday. And if you remember what Bella lagosi said in Dracula, about hearing the children of the night you would know he was talking about the undead, the unholy, evil, the devil.

I'm a Southern Baptist and Damn proud of it.

Amen Brother, Repent your evil ways or be cast into the fires of hell, the land of the undead.
kww is absolutly right. when we croak there are only 2 things. Judgment and after that, we are going to be with Him, or we aren't. No middle road.

But from what I read here so far, it reminds me of where Jesus said,,,&quot;Don't cast your pearls before swine&quot;
And,,,&quot;If they won't accept you, then they don't accept Me, and shake the dust off your feet, and leave that city and go to another city&quot;

No one can come to God unless HE calls him.

Jesus said,,,&quot;I am the Way, The Truth, and The Life. And NO man can come to the Father except through Me&quot;

That's it folks. God said it. I believe it because God doesn't lie. He isn't a liar. And that is good enough for me...

[W0UZR]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,20:32)]How do you know GOD said it?
Go buy a Bible and read it for yourself

[KG4CGC]

How do you know the bible is true. BTW I have the Billy Graham version of 1976.

[W0UZR]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,20:42)]How do you know the bible is true. BTW I have the Billy Graham version of 1976.
Because it's the Word of God, and He isn''t a liar.

[KG4CGC]

Did God put His signature on it?

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:44)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,20:42)]How do you know the bible is true. BTW I have the Billy Graham version of 1976.
Because it's the Word of God
And how do you know that, and don't say &quot;because the bible says so&quot;

[W0UZR]

Buy a Bible and read it yourself and you'll find out

[K6UEY]

I saw the TOPIC title and thought this post was about the Democratic vote in Chicago !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[W0UZR]

sure Orv. I'm not surprised

[KG4CGC]

The bible is only half true. It is interspersed with non-truths thanks to King James. You all know the story of what King James did to the bible so I won't get into that here.
The bible is a book of opinions and some history. More often than not it has some good guidlines to follow, most of which are actualy common sense. The 10 commandments are a good example. The bible is a book for man written by man. At a time when religion was the only government, it just made sense to keep people in line by telling them that God will cast you into the Hellfires if you don't follow our community standards. If it works for you then that's fine. It is about belief. Whether you really believe it or because you were told to believe it, it is still about belief and not a one of us will have even the slightest grasp of the real truth until after we pass into the &quot;hereafter&quot;.

[W0UZR]

Wrong! The Bible is the Word of God. Man wrote down what God told him to.

[KG4CGC]

More like shcitzophrenia(sp). Martin Luther suffered from shcitzophrenia. If they heard God talking to them, what they really heard was their own voices from their own brains. That's why I say the bible is opinion.
You can not prove God spoke to anyone unless of course you say the bible said so.

[KB1GYQ]

kb0uzr : Please submit evidence to support that claim.

[KG4CGC]

I can write my own book of virtuous platitudes and call it the word of God and if you agree with what I write will you say that I took dictation from God to write it?

[W0UZR]

2 Timothy 3:16

[KB1GYQ]

I already said that circular logic was not acceptable.

[W0UZR]

If what God said is not acceptable, then nothing will do for you.

[KG4CGC]

People have been quoting verse from the bible for years and while it may mean something to you, it means nothing to me because I still say it is the word of man. It is the word of man to control his brothers.
Please give evidence that God spoke to the writers of the bible and please, again, just because it is in the bible does not mean it is true. The &quot;bible says so argument&quot; holds no water.

[KB1GYQ]

Just because a book has a line in it that claims to make it the &quot;word of god&quot;, doesn't make it so...

(not personal) people need to use their brain on religious topics, otherwise all a madman needs to take over is to write a book that includes a claim that it is the &quot;word of god&quot;, and find followers willing to die to gain the world to come.

[W0UZR]

Timothy said that the Bible is inspired by God, and Timothy hasn't been found a liar by anyone when he was alive, or it would have been known by now.

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:16)]If what God said is not acceptable, then nothing will do for you.
Prove God said it.
You know at one time man believed in what we now call Greek Mythology.

[KB1GYQ]

Duh... it was Paul writing to Timothy, and he was speaking of the tanach, not the current christian canon.

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (KB1GYQ @ Jan. 23 2005,21:20)]Just because a book has a line in it that claims to make it the &quot;word of god&quot;, doesn't make it so...

(not personal) #people need to use their brain on religious topics, otherwise all a madman needs to take over is to write a book that includes a claim that it is the &quot;word of god&quot;, and find followers willing to die to gain the world to come.
Bin Laden being one of the more recent ones.

[W0UZR]

Someone said that in AA people believe that a comb, or a door knob is a higher power, and if you believe that, then what's more ridicules? What I said or that?

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:27)]Someone said that in AA people believe that a comb, or a door knob is a higher power, and if you believe that, then what's more ridicules? #What I said or that?
Who said that? Not saying much for AA does it? I know of many many people who were helped by AA.

[W0UZR]

Me too. And the serinity prayer is,,,
God, help me to change the things that I can, Accept the things that I cannot change, and the wisdom to know the difference.

See, you say that you know of people that changed because of AA, right? And guess Who they are depending on to get them to a better life!

[KG4CGC]

I'm sure you know of many many people who were helped by the bible. I think an analogy is in order here. The bible is like an alcoholic beverage, it should be taken in moderation.

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:37)]See, you say that you know of people that changed because of AA, right? #And guess Who they are depending on to get them to a better life!
Combs and doorknobs?

[W0UZR]

Wrong! That's the ONLY Thing that you don't do in moderation. That and prayer.

[KG4CGC]

Believe me, I'm right on this one! Bob Jones is in my neighborhood and he NEEDS some moderation. Besides, God told me so.

[KB1GYQ]

yes, drink, the only thing not to do in moderation...

everyone must believe in something, I believe I'll have another drink

[W0UZR]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,21:39)]Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:37)]See, you say that you know of people that changed because of AA, right? #And guess Who they are depending on to get them to a better life!
Combs and doorknobs?
In AA around here, that's a couple of examples they use. That if you don't want to believe in God right off when a person get into AA, that they say whatever you think will help you in a pinch to keep you away from the next drink, that it's fine if you think a door knob or a comb is a higher power that will help.

I couldn't make sense of it either. And of course, don't agree with that.

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,22:46)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,21:39)]Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:37)]See, you say that you know of people that changed because of AA, right? And guess Who they are depending on to get them to a better life!
Combs and doorknobs?
In AA around here, that's a couple of examples they use. That if you don't want to believe in God right off when a person get into AA, that they say whatever you think will help you in a pinch to keep you away from the next drink, that it's fine if you think a door knob or a comb is a higher power that will help.

I couldn't make sense of it either. And of course, don't agree with that.
so, what you are really saying is that anything that someone believes is a &quot;higher power&quot; will do?

[W0UZR]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,21:42)]Believe me, I'm right on this one! Bob Jones is in my neighborhood and he NEEDS some moderation. Besides, God told me so.
He DID !!? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:48)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,21:42)]Believe me, I'm right on this one! Bob Jones is in my neighborhood and he NEEDS some moderation. Besides, God told me so.
He DID !!?
Yes! She said,&quot; Do what thou wilt, with thou wilt harm none&quot;.

[W0UZR]

Quote[/b] (KB1GYQ @ Jan. 23 2005,21:47)]Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,22:46)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,21:39)]Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:37)]See, you say that you know of people that changed because of AA, right? #And guess Who they are depending on to get them to a better life!
Combs and doorknobs?
In AA around here, that's a couple of examples they use. That if you don't want to believe in God right off when a person get into AA, that they say whatever you think will help you in a pinch to keep you away from the next drink, that it's fine if you think a door knob or a comb is a higher power that will help. #

I couldn't make sense of it either. And of course, don't agree with that.
so, what you are really saying is that anything that someone believes is a &quot;higher power&quot; will do?
No, that's what I'm saying that AA says.

[W0UZR]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,21:50)]Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:48)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,21:42)]Believe me, I'm right on this one! Bob Jones is in my neighborhood and he NEEDS some moderation. Besides, God told me so.
He DID !!?
Yes! She said,&quot; Do what thou wilt, with thou wilt harm none&quot;.
SHE???

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:53)]SHE???[/b][/i][/u]
Balance is the key. Just as there is a male aspect of The Divine, so too is there a female aspect of The Divine.

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,22:51)]Quote[/b] (KB1GYQ @ Jan. 23 2005,21:47)]Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,22:46)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,21:39)]Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:37)]See, you say that you know of people that changed because of AA, right? And guess Who they are depending on to get them to a better life!
Combs and doorknobs?
In AA around here, that's a couple of examples they use. That if you don't want to believe in God right off when a person get into AA, that they say whatever you think will help you in a pinch to keep you away from the next drink, that it's fine if you think a door knob or a comb is a higher power that will help.

I couldn't make sense of it either. And of course, don't agree with that.
so, what you are really saying is that anything that someone believes is a &quot;higher power&quot; will do?
No, that's what I'm saying that AA says.
You were the one who started with the &quot;which is more unbelievable&quot;... so I'll wait for you to explain.

[W5HTW]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,18:46)]Did God put His signature on it?
It's from the &quot;God Publishing Company. God-Press.&quot;

Ed

[W5HTW]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,19:57)]Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:53)]SHE???[/b][/i][/u]
Balance is the key. Just as there is a male aspect of The Divine, so too is there a female aspect of The Divine.
While you are creating your particular God, you can create him, it, her, to suit your needs of the moment. You can place upon him, her, it, whatever limitations you wish, or grant it, him, her whatever powers you desire. You can also make Heaven or Hell how you wish it to be.

Remember, God did not create man; man created God.

When you learn that, then it all falls into place, and there are no more differences of opinion, no more variations, no more &quot;my God is right and yours is wrong,&quot; no more &quot;Why this&quot; or &quot;Why that?&quot; no more excuses, crutches or alibis. It is the only lesson you ever need to learn concerning religion. Once learned, you can then go about the rest of your life, accepting responsibility without blaming the Devil for your misdeeds, and accepting reward for your good deeds. You become complete. You don't &quot;hear voices,&quot; you don't give your money to the televangelist, you don't go work for your food and then thank a mythological deity for 'giving it to you.' No futher need to question why this good person, or that baby, got sick and died. You HAVE the answer! You don't have to wonder.


Neat, huh?

Ed

[KB1GYQ]

Just remember not to write it down on gold plates, then lose them! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (W5HTW @ Jan. 23 2005,22:17)]Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,19:57)]Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,21:53)]SHE???[/b][/i][/u]
Balance is the key. Just as there is a male aspect of The Divine, so too is there a female aspect of The Divine.
While you are creating your particular God, you can create him, it, her, to suit your needs of the moment. #You can place upon him, her, it, whatever limitations you wish, or grant it, him, her whatever powers you desire. # You can also make Heaven or Hell how you wish it to be. #

Remember, God did not create man; man created God.

When you learn that, then it all falls into place, and there are no more differences of opinion, no more variations, no more &quot;my God is right and yours is wrong,&quot; no more &quot;Why this&quot; or &quot;Why that?&quot; no more excuses, crutches or alibis. #It is the only lesson you ever need to learn concerning religion. #Once learned, you can then go about the rest of your life, accepting responsibility without blaming the Devil for your misdeeds, and accepting reward for your good deeds. #You become complete. #You don't &quot;hear voices,&quot; you don't give your money to the televangelist, you don't go work for your food and then thank a mythological deity for 'giving it to you.' #No futher need to question why this good person, or that baby, got sick and died. #You HAVE the answer! #You don't have to wonder.


Neat, huh?

Ed
That falls in line with something I've been telling people for years, &quot;You create your own world&quot;.
Why am I a drunk? Why am I a drug addict? Why am I so fat? Why do I keep smoking cigarettes?
Because you keep putting those things in your mouth.

[W0UZR]

Quote[/b] ]Remember, God did not create man; man created God
This is where God said to wipe the dust off my feet.

[KG4CGC]

Before you deleted your post UZR, I wanted to answer it with, we all want something greater than ourselves to believe in.

[kg4kww]

Ok you unholy cadavers, laf off of UZR. UZR is a good cadaver in training. Make fun all you want, but when the howls outside your door and the sky is dark, that's when you will hear the voices of the dead.

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,23:32)]Before you deleted your post UZR, I wanted to answer it with, we all want something greater than ourselves to believe in.
truth...

yet the existance of such a &quot;higher power&quot; must remain, to a scientific mind, at best an unprovable postulate.

circular logic is unconvincing, URZ, do try better (hint: there is a hint in the above)

[W0UZR]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,22:32)]Before you deleted your post UZR, I wanted to answer it with, we all want something greater than ourselves to believe in.
GOOD! Then believe in the One that doesn't lie, the One that created earth and all that's in it. That created the rest of the planets and the stars, and Heaven.

Why beat around the bush? Believe in the God that made all?

[kg4kww]

Way to go 0UZR. You are a good cadaver in training. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KG4CGC]

Uh, I didn't read all THAT into it.
I said we all WANT to believe in something greater than ourselves. GYQ's point is spot on: &quot;yet the existance of such a &quot;higher power&quot; must remain, to a scientific mind, at best an unprovable postulate.&quot;
One cannot prove the exsisitance of God.
It is only a belief.

[W0UZR]

We are all in training. Even the masters and the very wise. Always in training. Never will know all there is to know, especially about God. No one will know the mind of God unless He reveals it to him.

[W0UZR]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ Jan. 23 2005,23:35)]Uh, I didn't read all THAT into it.
# I said we all WANT to believe in something greater than ourselves. GYQ's point is spot on: &quot;yet the existance of such a &quot;higher power&quot; must remain, to a scientific mind, at best an unprovable postulate.&quot;
# One cannot prove the exsisitance of God.
It is only a belief.
If you ask Jesus to come into your heart and to forgive you of everything you did wrong, then He will reveal Himself to you. Then you will know that it's not just a belief, but a Fact.

[KG4CGC]

Assuming one is a Christian you mean?

[W0UZR]

That's how you become a Christian

[KG4CGC]

What if one is happy with what they already are? Are you biased towards Christianity only or do you see that are different paths to the same end?

[W0UZR]

There are no different paths. #Jesus is the ONLY way to Heaven, and no one gets there without asking Him to come into his heart and asking Him to forgive him of all his wrongs. And living a life that's pleasing to Him.

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,23:57)]There are no different paths. #Jesus is the ONLY way to Heaven, and no one gets there without asking Him to come into his heart and asking Him to forgive him of all his wrongs. And living a live that's pleasing to Him.
Well, That's what YOU believe. If it works for you then more power to you.

[W0UZR]

Just explaining the facts. Just the facts.

And it works for Anyone.

[KG4CGC]

The facts to Your, belief.

[W0UZR]

Can be Your belief. Try it and see if I'm right.
Ask Jesus in and see if I'm right or not.
That's how I found out.

[KG4CGC]

I'll ask Jesus if say, you ask, Budda or Mohammad or Moses.

[W0UZR]

Moses would say the same thing I just said, and Mohammad and Budda wouldn't be able to talk to me.

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 24 2005,00:37)]Moses would say the same thing I just said, and Mohammad and Budda wouldn't be able to talk to me.
Why?

[W0UZR]

Mohammad and Budda would have to exist in order for me to hear them. And I already have God and that's 100,000,000,000 times better, so why would I want to waste my time trying to talk to something that can't talk back?

[KG4CGC]

We are talking about a belief system. You believe what you believe because you choose to. It's that simple. You believe it to be true for whatever reasons you have and it works for you. You believe it to be the truth and the ONLY path.
# There are other beliefs out there too. Look at it this way if I can give a Christian like analogy. A man dies. He is a Christian and practiced it all of his life. He is waiting in a line to get into Heaven. In front of him and behind are his fellow Christians.
# He looks over to his left and he sees a line of Jews. He looks past their line and sees a line of Buddists. He looks past their line and sees another line and so forth. He looks to his right and sees a line Muslims. He looks past their line and sees a line of Tribal Natives (doesn't matter where they are from).
He looks past their line and so on.
# It is now the Christian mans turn to walk through the door as he steps through, he notices that everyone that was waitng in line on either side of him, have all walked into the same place.

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 24 2005,00:43)]Mohammad and Budda would have to exist in order for me to hear them. #And I already have God and that's 100,000,000,000 times better, so why would I want to waste my time trying to talk to something that can't talk back?
I guess you would say that because you believe Jesus is God. I think that's just the Christians trying to one up on other beliefs.

[W0UZR]

The truth is that you won't know unless you have a talk with Jesus, and ask Him to come to you. And if you do, then you will know.

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 24 2005,00:53)]The truth is that you won't know unless you have a talk with Jesus, and ask Him to come to you. And if you do, then you will know.
That is your truth, your belief. That is all. Nothing else.

[W0UZR]

He said,,,
&quot;I am the Way, the Truth, and The Life. No one comes unto the Father except through Me.&quot;

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 24 2005,00:59)]He said,,,
&quot;I am the Way, the Truth, and The Life. No one comes unto the Father except through Me.&quot;
Again, that's from the bible which was written by man for man. You cannot prove your quote from it , just as you nor anyone else can prove the exsistance of God.

[w0aew]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 23 2005,22:59)]He said,,,
&quot;I am the Way, the Truth, and The Life. No one comes unto the Father except through Me.&quot;
Now that's a great secretary!

[kg4kww]

From BBC NEWS LONDON -- Ghosts stalk Thai tsunami survivors (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4202457.stm)

Read and Heed non belivers...

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 25 2005,00:19)]From BBC NEWS LONDON -- Ghosts stalk Thai tsunami survivors (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4202457.stm)

Read and Heed non belivers...
Since you have taken it upon yourself to &quot;call fire from heaven&quot; upon some here from time to time, consider this
Quote[/b] ]I will set myself against those who turn to spirit-mediums and sorcerers, and cut them off from their people paraphrased from Vayikra 20:6 (aka Leviticus); part of the Torah, held as truth by Jews, Christians, and Moslems.

The dead have nothing to offer, except the toys that they can't take with them.

[kg4kww]

Quote[/b] ][b]KB1GYQ---The dead have nothing to offer, except the toys that they can't take with them.
[/]

Once again you are wrong. The dead have a lot to offer the living. It is from their remains that we find cures for the illness that sent them to the great beyond.

And OM just for the record, I beleve in GOD, I beleve in DAMNATION FOR THE EVIL &amp; The SINNERS. I beleve in HEAVEN FOR THE BLESSED and I beleve that GOD does send angels in the form of spirits to visit us and watch over us. I do beleve that the dead who are blessed with heaven will rise from their graves and acend.

PRAISE BE, PRAISE BE, Ahmen brothers &amp; sisters.

[KB1GYQ]

Quote[/b] ]If they will not give attention to Moses and the prophets, they will not be moved even if someone comes back from the dead. - Luke 16:31

whatever

[KB8VNP]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 26 2005,14:32)]Quote[/b] ][b]KB1GYQ---The dead have nothing to offer, except the toys that they can't take with them.
[/]

Once again you are wrong. The dead have a lot to offer the living. It is from their remains that we find cures for the illness that sent them to the great beyond.

And OM just for the record, I beleve in GOD, I beleve in DAMNATION FOR THE EVIL &amp; The SINNERS. I beleve in HEAVEN FOR THE BLESSED and I beleve that GOD does send angels in the form of spirits to visit us and watch over us. I do beleve that the dead who are blessed with heaven will rise from their graves and acend.

PRAISE BE, PRAISE BE, Ahmen brothers &amp; sisters.
Evidently you know the bible. #You know that God doesn't allow spirits to roam, let alone talk. #Yet you persist in this belief. #Is there a reason?

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[kg4kww]

8VNP Read This (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4202457.stm)

[KB8VNP]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 26 2005,14:55)]8VNP Read This (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4202457.stm)
Betel nuts?

So, it is someone's opinion. #Did you hear the voices? # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[kg4kww]

I haven't been to the affected area so, how could I hear their voices? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[kg4kww]

A true Voice From The Dead (http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=17;t=82194;st=0;r=1;&#entry327795)

[KB8VNP]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 26 2005,20:48)]I haven't been to the affected area so, how could I hear their voices? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Maybe you could go there on the way to CANADA! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KD7WHQ]

The bible may say so, but then if you take it literally I offer the following possibilities:

The caseload has hit the point that not even an omnipotent being can keep up.

(S)He decided to take a century off.

Paralleling the first, so busy on project B that promises made in project A are falling behind.

Someone else can pick it up from there.

If you have never experienced it, it is something that is easily considered impossible, by whatever reasoning you like.

Likewise, you can consider yourself lucky. Yes, lucky; you haven't lived in a location that either is an intersection (ley lines), or had something abhorrent happen in in the past.

I've seen people that turned to nothing within a fraction of a second of my seeing them. Heard noises, seen sash windows open by themselves, ovens set themselves to 350, and the timer set as if a cake were in there.

The last three were in a house that a woman was shotgunned to death in her sleep by her husband. Seattle, WA, Ballard neighborhood, early 1970's. Feel free to look the event up. It's likely somewhere.

And said window actually took a bit to open, it wasn't a case of overly heavy sash weights.

She didn't know she was dead. Likely still doesn't, if the house still stands, and nobody has shown her the way out.

The movie &quot;Sixth Sense&quot; actually does a good job on explaining, but as with most movies, it goes a bit beyond. A good watch though.

No tin hat here, I just know what I personally have seen and experienced.

BUT, they are mostly harmless. The high majority are either lost, don't know, or have something remaining they need to do. The latter when the job is done, they are gone.
The very few problematic ones are something else.

And in any event, excepting the last group, all they will do is startle the daylights out of you..

[kg4kww]

Interesting post 7WHQ. Can you post a link to the story about the women?

[KD7WHQ]

I don't know that the Seattle Times, or PI's archives go back that far yet, but I can look..

[W0UZR]

My friend Don says that he takes trips out of his body all the time. I asked Don how he knows that he's traveling out of his body, and he says that he knows that he is. When he leaves his body, he can see himself lying there breathing and everything, and he just goes through the wall of the house he lives in and goes anywhere he wants. And quite often he runs into someone that's wandering around, and this particular person, it happens to be a person that was killed in a car crash a few miles from here. and when he found him, he said &quot;You can see me? You can hear me?&quot; And Don says &quot;Yes I can hear you and see you.&quot; And the guy in the crash says that he hasn't been able to get anyone to hear him and they are ignoring him.

Don tells him that he died in a car crash, and he's dead, and the guy says, &quot;I'm DEAD!!??&quot; Don said he died in a crash and the guy said that he doesn't believe it. Don said he tried to convince him that he is dead but doesn't know it. Evidently he doesn't know that he's dead.

.

[w5ljm]

I've been to a Marilyn Manson concert. This stuff don't scare me!! # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[W0UZR]

I didn't write that to try and scare anyone. Just telling you what Don told me.

[KC9ECI]

I'll have some of what he's drinking!

[KB8VNP]

Not me, I can get in big trouble for engaging in those types of activities.

[N0KLT]

Quote[/b] (kb0uzr @ Jan. 30 2005,10:42)]I didn't write that to try and scare anyone. Just telling you what Don told me.
Sounds like your buddy Don had been nibbling on some magic mushrooms to me or found one of Tim Leary's forgotten stashes to me.

[KD7WHQ]

KWW, sorry. 1990 is as far as they go back..

[KL7FZ]

I've only heard Morse code from beyond the grave. Old Sam sends me messages all the time.

KL7FZ

[KC0NBW]

if god is all powerful, can he make something so big that he can't move it?

[kg4kww]

Interesting story 0UZR but, when one has an out of body experience, this usally implies death.

[W0UZR]

I thought you of all people would know that all kinds of people travel out of their body on a regular basis. See if there is still a findable copy of

&quot;Journeys Out of the Body&quot;
by
Robert A Monroe

Quite interesting reading.

[ai4ep]

Is this similar to where you put a walkie talkie in the flower decorations around a grave and hide nearby and talk to the folks who walk nearby...and...scaring the daylights out of them ?

[W0UZR]

Now THAT'S an idea !

[W0UZR]

I thought of hiding a stereo speaker under my truck and hooking it up to my guitar amp during halloween. And I would put my Heil mic on it and have the bass all the way up and the reverb on, and when the trick-er-treaters come by and say

<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:blue'>BLUUULULULU</span></span>

And of course I would be in the bedroom peeking through mostly closed drapes and laughing my behind off.

[w0aew]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Jan. 31 2005,09:30)]Interesting story 0UZR but, when one has an out of body experience, this usally implies death.
What happens if one of these guys forgets where he put his body? Is there some kind of beeper thing that helps locate it?

[W0UZR]

This is the interesting part. If you had a copy of the Journeys out of the Body book, the way he explains it is the same for everybody. When you are out of your body, there is something like an umbilical cord that's between your shoulders. And the other end is hooked to your body. (a spiritual one that can stretch to infinity)
And when you are out of your body, and your body gets ready to roll over, or even if you are sleeping on your hand and it goes numb, or if you are getting ready to wake up, this umbilical cord will snap you back into your body.

And Robert Monroe figures that this umbilical cord won't be there when you are dead.