Is Giambi's career over?

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] ]Giambi said he injected himself with human growth hormone in 2003 and used steroids for at least three seasons, according to a grand jury transcript reviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle.

Courtesy Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpa2lpNnFzBF9TAzk1ODYxNzc3BHNlYwN0 bQ--?slug=ap-yankees-giambi-steroids&prov=ap&type=lgns)

In the movie "Field of Dreams," James Earl Jones remarked: "This field, this game is part of our past. It reminds us of everything that was once good and could be again."

Giambi and the steroid scandal is tarnishing that field, that game. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

What do you think should be done with Giambi and others that have taken steroids and HGH?

[WA5KRP]

From the article in Yahoo! Sports: Quote[/b] ]New York still owes Giambi $82 million, but the Yankees might be able to get out of the deal.


WOOOOOOOOO..............I don't know many folks that could stand an $82M hickey, but MLB needs to make a statement about what The Sport will tolerate. Giambi is the self-designated heir apparent of Shoeless Joe Jackson's and Pete Rose's scornful legacies. If that is how it plays out, I see NOTHING out there to salvage Giambi's career. And the same goes for Bonds.

And before everybody gets bent out of shape and wants to step up for these clowns, think about the players that keep their nose clean and have played in the league at a disadvantage to the 'roids. They deserve better. Even the pros deserve a level playing field.

*Bleep* those cheats. They are a pack of phonies and should be treated as such. That much is owed to the fans and the honorable athletes that play their hearts out for a win.



WA5KRP
Texas

[w4rot]

Let the steroid boys draw their fate in short lived careers.
Sooner or later some sidewinding SOB will start throwing a pitch that no big bull can hit.
Agility and form will bring the game back, not quantitative chromatography. #
w4rot

[w4pjh]

Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 04 2004,18:19)]Giambi and the steroid scandal is tarnishing that field, that game. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
I hate to say it, because I love baseball, But, That game, That field has been tarnished for a while now

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 04 2004,20:57)]I say throw Bonds, McGuire and Giambi out for Life. If they have to use Drugs, then they should be booted and have NO Compensation.
While we are at it, Lets throw Bryant out for being a rapist. we all know he did it so what's the big deal.
Ban them for LIFE!!! Just my Humble opinion!!
I'll actually go one farther... ban them for life and remove all their records from the record books... we can't be sure the records were not "chemically enhanced," so they don't deserve to be preserved.

[N0KLT]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 04 2004,21:57)]I say throw Bonds, McGuire and Giambi out for Life. If they have to use Drugs, then they should be booted and have NO Compensation.
While we are at it, Lets throw Bryant out for being a rapist. we all know he did it so what's the big deal.
Ban them for LIFE!!! Just my Humble opinion!!
There will be a lot more then just those guys that should be thrown out then. But one thing, as I understand what was being said the other day, that the time Giambi admits to using steroids was before the time MLB was testing for steroids and its also my understanding that at that time steroids were not something players could be punished for using. If that is true then it is going to be hard to banish Giambi and others unless use after that can be proven. Don't misunderstand what I am saying, I feel that the steroid use is wrong and deserves punishment. I am just not sure what is able to be done for using them in the past. It will be interesting to watch and see.

Gary NØKLT

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 04 2004,22:00)]I do agree with david
Oh, my God... I don't think my heart can take it!

[n9zxk]

How can you ban someone from their sport for using them when there own rules at the time let them. You have to address it and make rules to uphold them. At the time its the same as driving 80 mph when you know you shouldnt be going over 65.

I saw someone said something about big mac. He has been out of the game now for 3 years. At the time what he said he was taking you could buy it at any health food store. i Know i went and looked at 4 places.

Is it right that some still use it. No it isnt. Those are the ones that need to be banned.

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 05 2004,11:21)]Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 05 2004,16:53)]Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 04 2004,22:00)]I do agree with david
Oh, my God... I don't think my heart can take it!
Yes Your HEART can take it david. Remember I actually agreed with you "ONCE" before http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I don't recall that... but, anyway, now that you've scared me half to death twice, what are you going to do for an encore? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[WS2L]

I have to agree with the folks who are saying that if it was not an issue when it happened you can't punish them for it. Even though it is wrong there are rules for a reason, unfortunately at that time they were not testing for it so he get's by with that one. Any player of any pro sport who tests positive for drugs and or steroids should be tossed for life....NO EXCEPTIONS.

[W4CGP]

Kick em all out. In my sport of choice (cycling) doping will get athletes into serious trouble, both with the UCI and the government (esp. France). Look at Tyler Hamilton. He looked suspicious so his team fired him. I'd love to see that lack of reluctance in other sports too...suspend them, fire them, whatever, and if they prove they're clean, consider letting em back in.

[n9zxk]

CGP

At that time did they have rules telling them they couldnt be doing it ? Baseball at the time didnt have anything in place telling them that it was wrong or right. I think some used it because they could. Now they cant cause they can be tested for it. To kick someone out of there sport when there wasnt any rules about it is wrong. Im sure there will be alot more on this in the next few weeks. Just remember nothing is wrong till they make rules and laws saying you cant do it.

[W8EFA]

Here in Cincinnati we have been real dissapointed that Ken Griffey Jr. has been hurt and missed as many games as he has played.

However after this steroid scandal I have more respect for Griffey by staying straight.

I also saw Senator McCAin say today he is giving baseball till January to clean up this mess before congress steps in!

Did anybody hear Jim Romes take on Bonds "not knowing" he was taking steroids? Really Funny - basically if he didn't know that the substance he was taking was steroids wouldn't he be curious why his hat size suddenly got two sizes bigger and he could suddenly bench press his car?

What a load of crap that he didn't know. Just take a look at pictures of Bonds, Giambi, Sosa, etc from 5 years ago and it is pretty obvious.

[w3sy]

From Bill W8EFA:

Did anybody hear Jim Romes take on Bonds "not knowing" he was taking steroids? Really Funny - basically if he didn't know that the substance he was taking was steroids wouldn't he be curious why his hat size suddenly got two sizes bigger and he could suddenly bench press his car?

HAW!!!! I love Jim Rome. He used to be on the radio here in the afternoons. I was pissed when they pulled him for whatever stupid reason. he had some good takes on Ricky Williams wanting "to smoke the hippie lettuce whenever I want, wherever I want."

There's no DOUBT some of those cats beefed up way beyond what you'd get from spending a lot of time in the weight room. And the Orioles had a certain outfielder that went from 18 to 20 dingers to 50 bombs one year... then came back to Earth again. Not accusing him of anything, but it makes you go HMMMMMMMMMM..... With all the BIG MONEY (even by baseball standards) you can make hitting a lot of jacks, isn't it likely that SOME guys would take dangerous drugs to illegally enhance performance??

If they are interested in preserving the credibility of the game, proven 'roid abusers should be tossed. Unfortunately, Baseball is run by boobs, and the Players' Union is the strongest union in the world. Look for the problem to continue unchecked.