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KC0NBW
12-04-2004, 11:10 PM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 04 2004,16:00)]Wouldn't it be something incredible if the recount in Ohio ends up with Kerry actually winning the presidency??

Then not only would the Majority of Bush's cabinet be leaving but Dubya himself sould be out.
(I could only Hope)


Last election it was Florida. #This one seems to be around all the "Irregularities" in Ohio on election day..

Just something to "THINK about.
once kerry conceded, it would not make any difference.

K3UD
12-04-2004, 11:22 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 04 2004,18:10)]Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 04 2004,16:00)]Wouldn't it be something incredible if the recount in Ohio ends up with Kerry actually winning the presidency??

Then not only would the Majority of Bush's cabinet be leaving but Dubya himself sould be out.
(I could only Hope)


Last election it was Florida. #This one seems to be around all the "Irregularities" in Ohio on election day..

Just something to "THINK about.
once kerry conceded, it would not make any difference.
I am not so sure that a concession would matter if the votes turned in Kerry's favor and all of the subsequent recounts (and one can bet it would drag on for months) have verified that he did in fact win Ohio. It would be real interesting to see how it would play out.

However, there is not a snowball's chance in hell that it would ever happen. If it does I will buy N6WK a dinner if he is ever in my area or I am in his.

73
George
K3UD

N7AAO
12-04-2004, 11:44 PM
It is numerically impossible for Kerry to win Ohio, and that has been known since Thursday.

According to a ChannelCincinnati.com (http://www.channelcincinnati.com/news/3964306/detail.html) (which looks like the local NBC station from the logo) story from December 2, 2004, (that was Thursday), Ohio's 88 counties have validated 121,598 ballots.

Bush's victory was by 136,483 votes.

Seems Kerry is almost 15,000 votes short... 14,885, to be exact... even if every single provisional ballot is for Kerry! (and wouldn't that be, um, interesting if it was?)

For comparison, that is more than the margin of victory in New Hampshire (9,171 votes), New Mexico (6,047 votes), or Pennsylvania (11,813 votes). One wonders why the Kerry folks are not calling for recounts in those states.

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<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Edited to correct wording</span>

KA9VQF
12-04-2004, 11:57 PM
Wouldnt matter Jeb could probably find enough to cover it. # # # # # # # #
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N7AAO
12-04-2004, 11:59 PM
Quote[/b] (KA9VQF @ Dec. 04 2004,16:57)]Wouldnt matter Jeb could probably find enough to cover it.
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Uh, Jeb isn't in Ohio. And there's nothing to &quot;cover,&quot; it is Kerry who is behind in Ohio.

KD7ZRT
12-05-2004, 12:01 AM
Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 04 2004,16:44)]Bush's victory was by 136,483 votes.
According to the AP, it was roughly 119,000 votes (http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=57112).

N7AAO
12-05-2004, 12:05 AM
Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 04 2004,17:01)]Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 04 2004,16:44)]Bush's victory was by 136,483 votes.
According to the AP, it was roughly 119,000 votes (http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=57112).
Ahh, ZRT, ya gotta read the entire article.

From your own article:

Quote[/b] ]The margin shrank primarily because of the addition of provisional ballots that were not counted on Election Day and were not included in the unofficial tally.

See, the 136,000 figure is pre-provisional ballot. If we take the 17,000 votes out of the 136,000, we also have to take it out of the 121,000 provisional ballots still outstanding... and Kerry is still 15,000 votes short.

Nice try, tho. We have some lovely parting gifts for you and for your loser candidate.

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p.s. for all you Kerry supporters. &quot;Loser&quot; is an accurate description for the Senator, since he lost the election. Don't get your buns in an uproar about it. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

KD7ZRT
12-05-2004, 12:16 AM
And what if we were go and count the additional 90,000 predominately black votes thrown in the trash?

N7AAO
12-05-2004, 12:17 AM
Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 04 2004,17:16)]And what if we were go and count the additional 90,000 predominately black votes thrown in the trash?
Oh, you mean the ones where people went and voted once at the proper precinct and then went to another precinct and filled out a provisional, and then went to a third and did the same thing, and so on?

You mean those Kerry votes? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

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KD7ZRT
12-05-2004, 12:26 AM
I'm referring to the discarding of &quot;90,000 presidential votes on punch-card ballots because the choices could not be determined (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35316-2004Dec4.html).&quot;

N7AAO
12-05-2004, 12:31 AM
Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 04 2004,17:26)]I'm referring to the &quot;90,000 presidential votes on punch-card ballots because the choices could not be determined (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35316-2004Dec4.html).&quot;
Yeah, the ones that are claimed by unnamed &quot;critics.&quot;

Show me the actual ballots and we'll see.

And, I reiterate my earlier question... if it is so critically important that every vote be counted, how about recounts in New Hampshire, New Mexico, and Pennsylvania, where the margin of victory was less than Ohio?

Hmmm... maybe because Kerry knows his lead would not stand up to a recount in those states?

KD7ZRT
12-05-2004, 12:47 AM
Unfortunately, its a money issue...

Cobb and Badnarik have filed a request for a recount in New Mexico. We do expect a recount there.

Their request in Nevada has been withdrawn for monetary reasons. The Nevada Secretary of State's office wanted $349,000 in compensation.

Certainly, I'd like to see investigations in all states where the numbers suggest foul play. We have to start somewhere.

If you believe the people of the United States deserve a genuine, open democracy, please consider donating (http://web.greens.org/c/cobb/supporters.cgi?function=donate) a few dollars to the recount effort.

N7AAO
12-05-2004, 12:49 AM
Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 04 2004,17:47)]Unfortunately, its a money issue...

Cobb and Badnarik have filed a request for a recount in New Mexico. We do expect a recount there.

Their request in Nevada has been withdrawn for monetary reasons. The Nevada Secretary of State's office wanted $349,000 in compensation.

Certainly, I'd like to see investigations in all states where the numbers suggest foul play. We have to start somewhere.

If you believe the people of the United States deserve a genuine, open democracy, please consider donating (http://web.greens.org/c/cobb/supporters.cgi?function=donate) a few dollars to the recount effort.
Actually, I think that the election officials of the several states are more than capable of doing their jobs.

See, I don't think that I am automatically superior to the rest of humanity. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

KD7ZRT
12-05-2004, 12:55 AM
Well, I guess I can't argue with blind faith.

N7AAO
12-05-2004, 12:58 AM
Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 04 2004,17:55)]Well, I guess I can't argue with blind faith.
Nothing blind about it. They wouldn't be in those jobs if they couldn't do the job, therefore, absent evidence to the contrary, I choose to believe that they are at least minimally competent.

You seem to be making the Bush campaign &quot;guilty until proven innocent.&quot; I thought in America we believe in &quot;innocent until proven guilty.&quot; But I guess that doesn't apply to Republicans if you're a liberal, does it? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

K8YS
12-05-2004, 04:25 AM
Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 04 2004,21:16)]And what if we were go and count the additional 90,000 predominately black votes thrown in the trash?
they do not deserve to be counted, they are NON VOTES.

I worked the polls. There were very detailed instructions to the voters on what exactly they needed to do to vote.

One of the instructions was to insert the card into the voting machine, face UP. We had ONE that did not, we gave him a new ballot.

Another instruction was to push the pin all the way down.

Another instuction was that if they required assistance, two workers would help (one dem, one rep), and if needed, they would provide &quot;curbside&quot; asistance by taking a voting machine insert and a ballot to the car.

And still another instruction was to LOOK at the card to verify that there were no &quot;hanging chad&quot;.

If a voter was unable to follow the simple instructions, it is only their own fault for not doing the job correctly.

We even had some voters ask &quot;are we required to vote for people? we only want to vote issues&quot;. So I can fully understand why a ballot could be missing a vote for president, but have a vote for a school bond issue.

Just because someone voted, does not mean they HAD to vote for a president.

N7AAO
12-05-2004, 04:48 AM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 04 2004,20:53)]Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 05 2004,01:58)]They wouldn't be in those jobs if they couldn't do the job,
Well David, Bush is in the &quot;Job&quot; but he actually isn't capable of doing it, so your statement doesn't hold up
Perhaps he is not capable in your opinion, but in the opinion of the majority of his employers (the citizens of the United States), he is capable. Remember, he received over 60 million votes, over three million more than his closest opponent. That's gotta count for something, especially after all the liberal whining when he won the electoral vote but lost the popular vote. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

K8YS
12-05-2004, 06:33 AM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 05 2004,01:56)]Well, In your opinion he is capable. The fact is, he only received all those votes because there wasn't a GOOD alternative.
In the iopinion of Many Anmericans, he is the WORST&quot; president of all times. It does look like we are stuck with him for 4 more years (sigh). too bad for America.
Even the Majority of his cabinet is bailing because of how bad he is! It is a SAD day or America that he won the Election, ( or did he?)
I want to know, Does he get docked pay for all the time he was out Campaigning instead of running the government??
Does he get docked for all the time he takes off for &quot;Vacation&quot; ??
( more then any other President in History) ??
He may have won the election, but he is still a LOSER in my opinion!!

So this time he actually won the popular Vote...after the last election we all know that means NOTHING!!!
WK:

WHO says &quot;worst president of all times&quot;??

They must be CHILDREN, because the do not remember, Richard Nixon, who resigned, Jimmy Carter, who only lusted in his heart, BJ Clinton who not only lusted in his heart, but the Oval Office and any dark hole he could hide in. LB Johnson who could not win a war over a tiny country, and handed us a defeat that haunted the military for over 15 years and still haunts the Senate, 24% interest rates, run-a-way inflation that was so bad that businesses could not print prices in catalogs - the catalog was out of date before it was printed.

WORST!?

I can think of many more worse. How about Hoover, he was blamed for the Great Depression, how about Truman, he dropped the bomb (that's a favorite with some on your side of the isle).

Worst?

I don't think so.

Keep trying.

Oh, while on the subject, Does Kerry and Edwards get docked pay for all the time they spent on the campaign trail, or all those meeting that Kerry missed?

Are the parents of soldiers going to sue Kerry for vetoing bills that would have provided better armor? How about a taxpayers suit against BJ Clinton for spending cruise missles and not replacing them?

KA9VQF
12-05-2004, 06:38 AM
Heel boys, {VQF reaches out of frame and comes back with a really large frying pan} AAH SAID HEEL! {use Fog Horn Leghorn's voice please} y'all are gettin real close to makeing Glen put on his moderators hat. You want to avoid this.

kd5dhr
12-05-2004, 09:33 AM
Some of you guys wouldn't know a good President if he liberated Iraq.

n0ov
12-05-2004, 03:41 PM
Leave them alone -- heck they probably still have folks counting the votes in Florida because they believe Gore actually won!

Election is done, instead of pointing fingers and playing he-said, she said, isn't it time to get behind the man elected and get something done for a change.

As for the disagreements -- which are valid. If you don't like what Bush is doing (and I DONT LIKE what he has planned for Social Security), write your Senators and Congressman.

And if you don't want another Bush Clone in office, better select someone besides Kerry or Hillary in 2008!

n5tjd
12-05-2004, 03:49 PM
Also, many Presidents, even Clinton upon relelection lost cabinet members. That is perfectly normal, and not just because they don't like working for the person.

If you don't want a Republican for president, get another guy/gal who gives us a better choice next time around. It was hands down for me and many others this time around. I don't vote blind, if I see one candidate is better than the other choices that is who I vote for. I want it to be a hard choice, because that means whoever wins, I will like more than I dislike. I am not happy with everything Bush does. I think things could be done better, but I felt I had more in common wih him than Kerry.

N7AAO
12-05-2004, 03:50 PM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 04 2004,21:56)]Even the Majority of his cabinet is bailing because of how bad he is! It is a SAD day or America that he won the Election, ( or did he?)
I want to know, Does he get docked pay for all the time he was out Campaigning instead of running the government??
Does he get docked for all the time he takes off for &quot;Vacation&quot; ??
( more then any other President in History) ??
First, on the cabinet members changing... it happens nearly every second term. Consider the latest 2-term President, Mr. Clinton.

Secretary of State:
Warren M. Christopher, 1993
Madeleine Albright, 1996

Secretary of the Treasury:
Lloyd Bentsen, 1993
Robert E. Rubin, 1995–1999
Lawrence H. Summers, 1999

Secretary of Defense:
Les Aspin, 1993
William J. Perry, 1994
William S. Cohen, 1997

Secretary of Agriculture:
Mike Espy, 1993
Dan Glickman, 1995

Secretary of Commerce:
Ronald H. Brown, 1993
Mickey Kantor, 1996
William M. Daley, 1997
Norman Y. Mineta, 2000

Secretary of Labor:
Robert B. Reich, 1993
Alexis Herman, 1997

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development:
Henry G. Cisneros, 1993
Andrew M. Cuomo, 1997

Secretary of Transportation:
Federico F. Pena, 1993
Rodney Slater, 1997

Secretary of Energy:
Hazel R. O'Leary, 1993
Frederico F. Pena, 1997
Bill Richardson, 1998

Some of those positions, like Treasury, Defense, Energy, and especially Commerce were basically revolving doors during Clinton's administration. How many Cabinet members did Bush have to replace before Nov 2?

As for getting docked while campaigning, did Senator Kerry and Senator Edwards also get docked while they were campaigning?

K8YS
12-05-2004, 04:21 PM
the big difference between the the Bush staff and the Clinton staff, is that the Bush staff leave STANDING UP.

KL7FZ
12-05-2004, 04:57 PM
Ok. Enough of this rehash and supposition. Move along folks. Shoooo....... There are things to do.....Nothing to see here....Move along......

KL7FZ

KC0NBW
12-05-2004, 07:27 PM
Quote[/b] (KD5WZB @ Dec. 05 2004,08:49)]Also, many Presidents, even Clinton upon relelection lost cabinet members. That is perfectly normal, and not just because they don't like working for the person.

If you don't want a Republican for president, get another guy/gal who gives us a better choice next time around. It was hands down for me and many others this time around. I don't vote blind, if I see one candidate is better than the other choices that is who I vote for. I want it to be a hard choice, because that means whoever wins, I will like more than I dislike. I am not happy with everything Bush does. I think things could be done better, but I felt I had more in common wih him than Kerry.
clinton lost 7 cabinet members and i don't recall anyone making a big deal out of it!

these people are not quitting because they don't like bush, they quit because they want to get back to their own lives. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

W5HTW
12-05-2004, 07:50 PM
Ah ha! I've been looking all over, high and low for it!! The &quot;Sour Grapes/Sore Loser&quot; forum. And, wow! I found it!

Thanks, guys!

Ed

KC0NBW
12-05-2004, 07:56 PM
Quote[/b] (W5HTW @ Dec. 05 2004,12:50)]Ah ha! #I've been looking all over, high and low for it!! The &quot;Sour Grapes/Sore Loser&quot; forum. #And, wow! # I found it!

Thanks, guys!

Ed
that's easy to find, just knock on the door of any house that still has a kerry-edwards sign in the yard!
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N7AAO
12-05-2004, 08:21 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 05 2004,12:27)]Quote[/b] (KD5WZB @ Dec. 05 2004,08:49)]Also, many Presidents, even Clinton upon relelection lost cabinet members. That is perfectly normal, and not just because they don't like working for the person.

If you don't want a Republican for president, get another guy/gal who gives us a better choice next time around. It was hands down for me and many others this time around. I don't vote blind, if I see one candidate is better than the other choices that is who I vote for. I want it to be a hard choice, because that means whoever wins, I will like more than I dislike. I am not happy with everything Bush does. I think things could be done better, but I felt I had more in common wih him than Kerry.
clinton lost 7 cabinet members and i don't recall anyone making a big deal out of it!

these people are not quitting because they don't like bush, they quit because they want to get back to their own lives. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
At least one of the departing Cabinet members only promised the President four years. The one I am sure of is Colin Powell. There may be others that made the same deal.

So, Powell leaves, and that means Bush is a bad guy. If Bush persuaded Powell to go back on his word, that would mean that Bush is a bad guy.

Isn't that tolerant and compassionate of the liberals? Bush is bad no matter what he does.

w3sy
12-05-2004, 09:38 PM
From N6WK:

Wouldn't it be something incredible if the recount in Ohio ends up with Kerry actually winning the presidency??

Then not only would the Majority of Bush's cabinet be leaving but Dubya himself sould be out.
(I could only Hope)


Last election it was Florida. This one seems to be around all the &quot;Irregularities&quot; in Ohio on election day..

Just something to &quot;THINK about.

Hmmm... Think about this instead. KERRY LOST! Build a bridge and get over it. Kerry ran a crappy campaign and people saw him for the loser he IS. Kerry lost, and liberalism lost. Deal with it already.

When will the pathetic whining end? Some liberals are also complaining that the electronic voting machines were rigged. Get over yourselves. You just can NOT believe that the majority of this nation does not see things your way. Well... Got bad news for ya.

Oh boo hoo. Look, some friendly advice: Forget about it and move on. Aren't there some rightly-convicted murderers you want to get out of jail? The ACLU needs YOU. Go for it, Champ.

Out.

ke4lqy
12-05-2004, 10:39 PM
You guy's are forgetting something very important... who won in Ohio is not important anymore. The President is elected by the Electorial Colledge, and they voted Dec 3rd ... they are the only Votes who count,. Bush was elected by majority vote in the electorial colledge as the Constitution requires and will be President for the next 4 years and there is nothing anyone can do to change that fact.. the Dems are trying to find a way to illigitamize his next 4 years as they tried to do in his first 4 years... if more people would actually read the constitution every once in a while
this type of cry baby antics by the liberals would not cause such contraversy and things would run much smoother... and we could actually hold our elected officials responcible when they operate outside the authorized powers they hold.

73

N7AAO
12-06-2004, 12:00 AM
Quote[/b] (ke4lqy @ Dec. 05 2004,15:39)]You guy's are forgetting something very important... who won in Ohio is not important anymore. The President is elected by the Electorial Colledge, and they voted Dec 3rd ... they are the only Votes who count,. Bush was elected by majority vote in the electorial colledge as the Constitution requires and will be President for the next 4 years and there is nothing anyone can do to change that fact.. the Dems are trying to find a way to illigitamize his next 4 years as they tried to do in his first 4 years... if more people would actually read the constitution every once in a while
this type of cry baby antics by the liberals would not cause such contraversy and things would run much smoother... and we could actually hold our elected officials responcible when they operate outside the authorized powers they hold.

73
Hate to contradict anyone giving liberals a hard time, LGY, but the Electors do not vote till December 13th, not December 3rd. The Electors need to be named by December 7th, and the final results need to be in the hands of the National Archives and Records Administration by December 22.

Here (http://www.archives.gov/federal_register/electoral_college/2004/dates.html) is the official NARA website with all the dates for the 2004 election.

N7AAO
12-06-2004, 01:37 AM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 05 2004,18:31)]Bush only won because the other choice was Worse!! Why don't you guys on the right admit that if There had been a Better Choice, Bush would be Out of there , just like his Old man!!!
There were plenty of other choices.

John F. Kerry, Democrat
Ralph Nader, Independent
Michael Badnarik, Libertarian
Michael Peroutka, Constitution
David Cobb, Green

You can't blame lack of choices for Kerry being the biggest loser in America right now.

(Note: Kerry lost, therefore he is a loser. He lost the biggest contest in America, therefore he is the biggest loser in America. Deal with it, libs.)

w3sy
12-06-2004, 04:01 AM
N6WK dood -- I think YOU need to stop smoking the Space Spinach. HAW!

Could Bush have been beaten by a better choice from the Dummycratic side? DAMN STRAIGHT! But lookie here boss -- The Dim-o-crats went with Kerry. A moderate or conservative Dem doesn't stand a Chinaman's chance of getting nominated. As long as the Hippie Lettuce Smoking Wing of the Dumbasscrat party keeps offering us John Kerrys and Al Gores, we'll keep saying &quot;no thanks, chief.&quot;

It's fine with me if you want to backpedal now on the recount thing. If you wanna save face, I'm not the kinda cat who's gonna stand in your way. But I've already heard the PMS-laden moaning about the voting machines and the recounts... And starting in 2000, we heard for four YEARS about votes (especially those of minorities) not counting, and Bush &quot;stealing&quot; the election. Your tune sounded a lot like Verse Two of the same sad song.

I guess what you are saying is that your panties really AREN'T in a knot over this. Sooooooo, you were just trolling (again)? Good post, Skeezix. Jesus H......

Out.

N7AAO
12-06-2004, 04:15 AM
Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Dec. 05 2004,21:01)]I guess what you are saying is that your panties really AREN'T in a knot over this. Sooooooo, you were just trolling (again)? Good post, Skeezix. Jesus H......

Out.
Hmmm... undies in a knot, or more Party of the Loser trolling... that's a tough one, Steve.

w3sy
12-06-2004, 04:30 AM
Either way, not QRZ's finest hour. Or N6WK's.

HAW!

Out.

N7AAO
12-06-2004, 05:03 AM
First, our good neighbor N6WK says to W3SY:

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 05 2004,21:59)]Perhaps you need some preperation H to help you with the pain ?? Or you could ty removing the Tack from your foot. I also NEVER mentioned a voting Machine problem, Perhaps that was another of your dreams that you had when you were on the Meds??

Then, later in the same message, N6WK pleads:

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 05 2004,21:59)]If you are going to reply to my post, Could you at least keep it civil and Make sense??

There ya have it... liberal double-standards on display.

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Over...

KC0NBW
12-06-2004, 05:14 AM
58,000 and some odd americans died in a war that we got involved in by an agreement made by a democratic president, it was escalated into a 10 year run by 2 more democratic presidents, and it was finally brought to an end by a republican president and public opinion .

how many americans troops died while slick was in office?

KC0NBW
12-06-2004, 05:22 AM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 05 2004,22:17)]Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 06 2004,06:14)]58,000 and some odd americans died in a war that we got involved in by an agreement made by a democratic president, it was escalated into a 10 year run by 2 more democratic presidents, and it was finally brought to an end by a republican president and public opinion .

how many americans troops #died while slick was in office?
Are you referring to&quot; Slick Willy&quot; ?? Bill Clinton ??
i don't recall any other president being referred to as &quot;slick&quot;

N7AAO
12-06-2004, 05:22 AM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 05 2004,22:15)]Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 06 2004,06:03)]First, our good neighbor N6WK says to W3SY:

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 05 2004,21:59)]Perhaps you need some preperation H to help you with the pain ?? Or you could ty removing the Tack from your foot. I also NEVER mentioned a voting Machine problem, Perhaps that was another of your dreams that you had when you were on the Meds??

Then, later in the same message, N6WK pleads:

Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 05 2004,21:59)]If you are going to reply to my post, Could you at least keep it civil and Make sense??

There ya have it... liberal double-standards on display.

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Over...
Sorry davie,

No double Standards. The Preparation H comment was because Obvoiusly SY is in Pain.

Also, If you had read his Post you would Undersatnd about the Keep it Cib\vil part. Go back and Read the Hash he posted and see if it looks like ENGLISH to you.! There are words in his Post that I couldn't find in the Dictionary, But perhaps you have a copy of the One he is using!!

Dood...Space Spinach, Dim-o-crats,Dumbasscrat,Skeezix. Jesus H...... etc etc etc.., Can't find them in my Dictionary!
If that is making sense then I obviously do not have the latest AMERICAN Dictionary!!
Double Standards.. NO. I say lets all use the same Language!
Of course if you agree and Know of this language, Please enlighten me Davie as to where I might pick up such a Dictionary!

&quot;OVER&quot;
Actually, I think Steve was much more civil than you. He attacked the party, yes, and generic whiners, but the only thing he said about you personally was that you might be backpedaling on the recount; and that you sounded like you were singing Verse Two of the 2000 Election song.

You, on the other hand, suggested that Steve is high on drugs, that he has a problem with his backside, and so on.

And the fact that you can't even see it when it's right in front of your face is the saddest part. I weep for you, Gordon, I really do.

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p.s. Gordon, it's David. Not &quot;davie,&quot; not &quot;david&quot; with a small &quot;d.&quot; I do you and Bill EFA and everyone here the honor of spelling their names correctly, and with proper capitalization. Could you please do me the same honor?

N7AAO
12-06-2004, 01:33 PM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 05 2004,22:50)][
Davie, You must be Right , All the words stevie used can be found in the Unabridged Americian Dictionary....
Well Not Actually , But I don't feel like a Spitting contest tonight!

Just go back and READ his post and tell me if all those words are there.. Dood, Dim-o-crats, Hippie Lettuce Smoking Wing of the Dumbasscrat, Skeezix. Jesus H......

You show me the Dictionary where all these words are and I'll say &quot;You are Right&quot;
Otherwise, You can say &quot;Sorry Gordon&quot; and we'll let it go!
He brought up the Panties. I mentioned Preperation H because it is obvious he is in some sort of Pain!

Out

Which means &quot;I am Finished with this QSO&quot; and Nothing follows &quot;EXCEPT the Call Of course you Knew that didn't you?&quot;

N6WK
While you're checking the dictionary, Mr. Know-it-All, you might look up the proper spelling of &quot;preparation.&quot;

And I've said it before, it's David, not Davie. I thought making fun of someone's name went out somewhere around the 3rd or 4th grade.

Such is the state of the modern Democratic party, I guess.

N7AAO
12-06-2004, 05:05 PM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 06 2004,08:57)]Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 06 2004,14:33)]And I've said it before, it's David, not Davie. I thought making fun of someone's name went out somewhere around the 3rd or 4th grade.

Such is the state of the modern Democratic party, I guess.
Oh..
Ok, #My little brothers name is David and we have always called him Davie. #Not making fun of your name. #I know that Davie or Davey is short for David, #just like Gordy or Gordie is short for Gordon and Bill is short for William!
Comnon, you know that David!


I'm actually a Republican!!!
If you're a Republican, then you're a RINO: Republican In Name Only. You'd probably be much happier in the Democratic party.

And, if you're a Republican, why did your feathers get so ruffled with Steve called the other party &quot;Dim-o-crats&quot;?

Methinks thou'rt not so much a Republican.

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(p.s. for the language-challenged... thou'rt is Olde English... you might try it some time... especially if thou wishest to read the Bard of Avon.)

w3sy
12-06-2004, 05:14 PM
Hard to type through tears of laughter, but I will try! You guys are really going to town here....

Thank the Sweet Lord for the quoting feature, otherwise I would have missed Gordo's deleted posts. Hee-larious!

Luckily, NOT deleted, and preserved for all posterity, is WK saying:

Just go back and READ his post and tell me if all those words are there.. Dood, Dim-o-crats, Hippie Lettuce Smoking Wing of the Dumbasscrat, Skeezix. Jesus H......

You show me the Dictionary where all these words are and I'll say &quot;You are Right&quot;

There is something that REALLY strikes me as funny when I see you list the words that bother you. I guess I missed the memo from the QRZ.COM staff that said &quot;All words used on the QRZ forum *MUST* be found in the dictionary, or the remarks will be deemed uncivil.&quot; HAW!!

Don't worry, Dave and Gordon, I am NOT offended by suggestions that my butt hurts or that I'm flying high on Whacky Tobaccky. If I'm laughing (was and still am), I'm not offended. I would MUCH rather take a well-articulated zinger from Gordo (silly as they may be) than the typical oafish, brain dead, semi-literate taunts that SOME people spew on here. Have at me -- I'm fair game. (But don't tick off Glen.)

Grabbing wheel, hitting the gas, and steering sharply back on topic..... if I were the Dummycrats, I'd spend less time throwing tantrums about how unfair the outcome was and MORE time coming up with candidates and policies that MOST people in this great nation can stomach. The party of wasteful spending, big and bumbling government, high taxes, weak national defense, and softness on crime needs to appeal to MORE than just college children, stay at home dads, soccer moms, and Pacific Northwesterners. Hint: Just say 'no' to Hillary.

Between you, me, and the 50 foot tower out back, I was SURE GW Bush was ripe for the picking this time, and that the Duh-mocrats would win in a walk.

Then they tried to sell us Kerry.

Oh, it looked good for Botox Boy for a while. Then, unfortunately, we got a whiff of what he was really all about. Then it was &quot;good night, nurse&quot; for Mr and Mrs Pickle Puss.

I hear Kerry just got a new job at a drive-in movie establishment. They'll be showing movies on his forehead every Friday night.

Finally, from Gordo,

<span style='color:red'>I'm actually a Republican!!!</span>

I know! And I'm actually the Pope, ferchrissake. (Another word CLEARLY not in the dictionary.)

Good day to YOU sir.

I *said* GOOD DAY.

Over and out?

N7AAO
12-06-2004, 07:22 PM
Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Dec. 06 2004,10:14)]Thank the Sweet Lord for the quoting feature, otherwise I would have missed Gordo's deleted posts. Hee-larious!

[...]

Grabbing wheel, hitting the gas, and steering sharply back on topic..... if I were the Dummycrats, I'd spend less time throwing tantrums about how unfair the outcome was and MORE time coming up with candidates and policies that MOST people in this great nation can stomach. The party of wasteful spending, big and bumbling government, high taxes, weak national defense, and softness on crime needs to appeal to MORE than just college children, stay at home dads, soccer moms, and Pacific Northwesterners. Hint: Just say 'no' to Hillary.

Between you, me, and the 50 foot tower out back, I was SURE GW Bush was ripe for the picking this time, and that the Duh-mocrats would win in a walk.

Then they tried to sell us Kerry.

Oh, it looked good for Botox Boy for a while. Then, unfortunately, we got a whiff of what he was really all about. Then it was &quot;good night, nurse&quot; for Mr and Mrs Pickle Puss.

I hear Kerry just got a new job at a drive-in movie establishment. They'll be showing movies on his forehead every Friday night.
Oh, what do you know, N6WK has deleted his offensive post. Vewwy Intewesting!

New rule at the N7AAO shack... all N6WK posts will be quoted in their entirety... I may even quote a few that I don't want to respond to, just to save them for posterity.

As for party affiliation, I am <span style='color:red'>NOT</span> a Republican, despite what it says on my Voter Registration card (I just picked the GOP because the other choices were even worse, IMHO). I am a <span style='color:green'>conservative</span> and darned proud of it, thankyouverymuch.

If the Democrats had run, say, Joe Lieberman, I'd have had a very tough decision on my hands. While I do support some (note: I said some) of Dubya's ideas, there are also some that I don't support, like his out-of-control spending. And I have said so before.

But no, the Democrats had to go wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy out to the left and grab the most liberal current member of the Senate, and then he picked the fourth most liberal of the Senate to run with. (BTW, N6WK, you haven't answered whether Kerry and Edwards have reimbursed the American Citizens for their wages while they were campaigning... HAW!™) Anyway, once the &quot;electable&quot; Kerry was chosen, the race was all but over... Kerry had far too many skeletons in his closet.

If the Democrats ever want to see one of their own in the Oval <s>Orifice</s>... I mean Oval Office (oops, flashed back to the Clinton era for a moment there), they need to head towards the center not just in rhetoric but in reality. Sadly, I doubt that the Michael Moores, the Assorted Als (Sharpton, Gore, Franken, etc), or the remaining Clintonistas will allow that. So, Democrats, get used to being the minority party for a long, long time.

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This is N7AAO, over. (Is that proper ID, Gordon?)

KD7ZRT
12-06-2004, 08:26 PM
Guys, for the sake of our democracy, can we try to be civil here?

Congressman John Conyers, Jr. wrote an interesting letter to Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell which I think is worth reading.

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohblackwellltrpr12204.pdf

There are some serious issues raised here... Voter supression, more votes than voters, strange increases in third party voting, computer errors, et al. In particular, the hours long lines in urban precints seems entirely unaceptable to me.

I'll be interested to hear what the GAO finds in their investigation.

K8YS
12-06-2004, 08:55 PM
Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 06 2004,17:26)]Guys, for the sake of our democracy, can we try to be civil here?

Congressman John Conyers, Jr. wrote an interesting letter to Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell which I think is worth reading.

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohblackwellltrpr12204.pdf

There are some serious issues raised here... Voter supression, more votes than voters, strange increases in third party voting, computer errors, et al. In particular, the hours long lines in urban precints seems entirely unaceptable to me.

I'll be interested to hear what the GAO finds in their investigation.
yea, I'd like to know too - CONSIDERING that the B of E is bi-partisan. An equal number of &quot;them&quot; and &quot;us&quot; at each polling place.

I'd like to know why the DNC was sending out absentee ballots and the voter not knowing they received an absentee ballot.

I'd like to know why there were so many &quot;Snow White&quot;, &quot;Charles Brown&quot; and &quot;Foghorn Leghorn&quot; registered in some counties.

I'd like to know why the DNC sponcered a cash reward for signing up new voters.

I'd like to know why voters cannot follow the law.

I'd like to know why some voters are allowed to have more than one person in the polling booth at a time.

I'd like to know why Ken Blackwell doesn't tell these people to say the heck out of Ohio and keep our state clean.

N7AAO
12-06-2004, 09:57 PM
Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Dec. 06 2004,13:55)]Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 06 2004,17:26)]Guys, for the sake of our democracy, can we try to be civil here?

Congressman John Conyers, Jr. wrote an interesting letter to Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell which I think is worth reading.

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohblackwellltrpr12204.pdf

There are some serious issues raised here... Voter supression, more votes than voters, strange increases in third party voting, computer errors, et al. In particular, the hours long lines in urban precints seems entirely unaceptable to me.

I'll be interested to hear what the GAO finds in their investigation.
yea, I'd like to know too - CONSIDERING that the B of E is bi-partisan. An equal number of &quot;them&quot; and &quot;us&quot; at each polling place.

I'd like to know why the DNC was sending out absentee ballots and the voter not knowing they received an absentee ballot.

I'd like to know why there were so many &quot;Snow White&quot;, &quot;Charles Brown&quot; and &quot;Foghorn Leghorn&quot; registered in some counties.

I'd like to know why the DNC sponcered a cash reward for signing up new voters.

I'd like to know why voters cannot follow the law.

I'd like to know why some voters are allowed to have more than one person in the polling booth at a time.

I'd like to know why Ken Blackwell doesn't tell these people to say the heck out of Ohio and keep our state clean.
I'd like to know why the DNC is offering to fund a recount requested by two third-party campaigns, too.

Inquiring minds want to know!

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This is N7AAO, over... (for N6WK)

N8CPA
12-06-2004, 10:08 PM
Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 06 2004,16:26)]Guys, for the sake of our democracy, can we try to be civil here?

Congressman John Conyers, Jr. wrote an interesting letter to Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell which I think is worth reading.

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohblackwellltrpr12204.pdf

There are some serious issues raised here... Voter supression, more votes than voters, strange increases in third party voting, computer errors, et al. In particular, the hours long lines in urban precints seems entirely unaceptable to me.

I'll be interested to hear what the GAO finds in their investigation.
You consider it worth reading, I consider it complete BS, because it comes from Dems. I don't how the Dems treated Blackwell as Mayor of Cincinnati, but since he got elected Secretary of State 10 years ago, they haven't let up.

Ken Blackwell has the audacity to credit hard work for his accomplishments and his international prestige, rather than Affirmative Action and Democratic policies.
He doesn't subscribe to the preferred myth of the Dem party that because he's black, he owes everything to Dems.

I can only wonder who really dictated the letter, or who put the bug in Conyers ear for the letter to be written. Proctor of Toledo? Stephanie Tubb-Jones, perhaps? It might explain why they mention a name that isn't even a county in Ohio, Mahong. If they meant Mahoning, why couldn't they spell it correctly? Oh that's right! They're Dems!

BTW, I'm not a Republican. Hell, I'm not really sure I'm a true conservative. I just hate BS, especially the kind the liberals have been giving an honorable man like Blackwell for the past 10 years. It is high time it stop!

KD7ZRT
12-06-2004, 10:08 PM
Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 06 2004,14:57)]I'd like to know why the DNC is offering to fund a recount requested by two third-party campaigns, too.
When did they offer?

The Greens/Libertarians have been critical of the Democrats for sitting on top of millions of excess campaign funds that could be used for the recount, but, so far as I know, have not been offered. Those spineless bastards promised us they'd fight to see that every vote would be counted but come Nov. 3rd, they abandoned us.

Unless you're referring to the Washington recount, but I believe that was requested by the Dems.

KC0NBW
12-06-2004, 10:14 PM
Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 06 2004,15:08)]Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 06 2004,14:57)]I'd like to know why the DNC is offering to fund a recount requested by two third-party campaigns, too.
When did they offer?

The Greens/Libertarians have been critical of the Democrats for sitting on top of millions of excess campaign funds that could be used for the recount, but, so far as I know, have not been offered. Those spineless bastards promised us they'd fight to see that every vote would be counted but come Nov. 3rd, they abandoned us.

Unless you're referring to the Washington recount, but I believe that was requested by the Dems.
do you seriously think the democrats would spend any of their money for a recount? they would do it the only &quot;fair&quot; way, make the taxpayers foot the bill! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

N7AAO
12-07-2004, 01:24 AM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 06 2004,17:34)]Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 06 2004,20:22)]This is N7AAO, over. (Is that proper ID, Gordon?)
Actually, I think the &quot;OVER&quot; should come before the Call dave.

&quot;OVER&quot; N6WK
Well, lefties do it one way, righties do it the other. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

N7AAO
12-07-2004, 01:27 AM
Quote[/b] (KD7ZRT @ Dec. 06 2004,15:08)]Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Dec. 06 2004,14:57)]I'd like to know why the DNC is offering to fund a recount requested by two third-party campaigns, too.
When did they offer?
I must humbly beg your forgiveness, sir, I must have heard the report wrong on the top-of-the-hour ABC Radio news.

Here is the story that I mis-heard:

Quote[/b] ]Washington, DE, Dec. 6 (UPI) -- The chairman of the Democratic National Committee says Democrats will &quot;spend whatever it takes&quot; on a comprehensive study of election practices in Ohio.

Courtesy UPI, via Washington Times (http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041206-124847-4142r.htm).

I heard &quot;spend whatever it takes&quot; and Ohio and made the erroneous conclusion that they were referring to the recount, not a &quot;study.&quot;

My bad, sorry.

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N7AAO
12-07-2004, 01:39 AM
By the way, the Ohio recount is now officially pointless (it was only unofficially pointless before).

Quote[/b] ]COLUMBUS, Ohio - This battleground state on Monday certified President Bush's 119,000-vote victory over John Kerry, even as the Kerry campaign and third-party candidates prepared to demand a statewide recount.

The president won Ohio with 2.86 million votes, or 51 percent, to Kerry's 2.74 million votes, or 49 percent.

The 118,775-vote lead was closer than the unofficial election night margin of 136,000, but not enough to trigger a mandatory recount. Absentee ballots and provisional votes counted after election night made most of the difference.

Courtesy AP via Yahoo! News (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041207/ap_on_el_pr/ohio_vote&cid=536&ncid=536).

Say goodbye to your hopes, Gordon!

And then say &quot;OUT.&quot;

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KD7ZRT
12-08-2004, 04:07 AM
The House Judiciary Democrats will have their &quot;Preserving Democracy - What Went Wrong in Ohio&quot; forum tomorrow, 2237 Rayburn House Office Building, at 10:00AM Eastern Time.

For those who wish to listen, it will be broadcast live on Pacifica Radio (http://www.pacifica.org/) and KPFA (http://www.kpfa.org/).

w3sy
12-08-2004, 04:42 AM
&quot;What went wrong in Ohio&quot; was that he majority of the people there refused to be suckered into voting for Botox Boy and John Ritter. That's what &quot;went wrong.&quot;

Out.

k9kxq
12-08-2004, 10:42 PM
Quote[/b] (N6WK @ Dec. 08 2004,00:23)]Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Dec. 08 2004,05:42)]&quot;What went wrong in Ohio&quot; was that he majority of the people there refused to be suckered into voting for Botox Boy and John Ritter. That's what &quot;went wrong.&quot;

Out.
I thought John Ritter Died??? &lt;sadly&gt;!

And what about the Doctor doing Botox treatments with Brake fluid at Lionel Richies house???
God rest John Ritter... Red seems to fit the color of these right wingers, they are always angry!

I have a feeling their color will change after four years of Dubya, they will be blue from holding their breath. All that red and tamatoes are @ 3.99 lb thats enough to make you blue.

Botox? jeeze Louise SY, you got to come up with some new stuff, this is getting old OM, and the chicken bander bashing it's gaging me to death, open up that window and let me catch my breath. HE HE HAW... # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

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w3sy
12-10-2004, 05:19 AM
What's wrong with calling that Munster-like goon &quot;Botox Boy?&quot; Christ, you should have heard what I called Clinton for EIGHT YEARS.

By the way, I'm petitioning the International Olympic Comittee to make CB Bashing and Olympic sport. Gotta problem wit dat?

Yeah, John Ritter croaked. I did hear that they wanted John Edwards to take his spot in that sitcom, but he was too busy wasting his time trying to be President or Veep. Too bad -- a missed opportunity.

N7AAO
12-10-2004, 03:10 PM
Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Dec. 09 2004,22:19)]What's wrong with calling that Munster-like goon &quot;Botox Boy?&quot; Christ, you should have heard what I called Clinton for EIGHT YEARS.

By the way, I'm petitioning the International Olympic Comittee to make CB Bashing and Olympic sport. Gotta problem wit dat?

Yeah, John Ritter croaked. I did hear that they wanted John Edwards to take his spot in that sitcom, but he was too busy wasting his time trying to be President or Veep. Too bad -- a missed opportunity.
Ahh, Steve, ya just gotta call Kerry and Edwards &quot;big losers.&quot; Since it's true that they lost, and true that what they lost was the biggest contest in the nation, that makes them both big losers!

And the fact that they can't refute either statement is what will really get Kerry-ites mad. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

N7AAO
12-12-2004, 05:23 PM
The new seal of the Democratic Party:

http://www.geocities.com/davidf1966/seal-democratic-party.jpg

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Courtesy PoliPundit.com (http://www.polipundit.com)</span>

N8CPA
12-17-2004, 02:11 PM
And from the &quot;OH NO!--amid hysterical laughter&quot; department:

I heard an, as yet, unconfirmed report that Martin Sheen is thinking about running for Governor of Ohio. Democrats tried something like that in their last &quot;goober&quot;-natorial run. They put up the husband of Captain Janeway (Kate Mulgrew) as candidate. His name is Tim Hagan. Mulgrew managed to piss off more voters than our unrepentant, incumbent RINO governor did. So he got 4 more years. I guess he hasn't done too much damage. Nothing irreparable, at least.

But if the Dems really do offer either Sheen or Springer against Republican Blackwell....

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K8YS
12-17-2004, 03:44 PM
Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 17 2004,11:11)]And from the &quot;OH NO!--amid hysterical laughter&quot; department:

I heard an, as yet, unconfirmed report that Martin Sheen is thinking about running for Governor of Ohio. Democrats tried something like that in their last &quot;goober&quot;-natorial run. They put up the husband of Captain Janeway (Kate Mulgrew) as candidate. His name is Tim Hagan. Mulgrew managed to piss off more voters than our unrepentant, incumbent RINO governor did. So he got 4 more years. I guess he hasn't done too much damage. Nothing irreparable, at least.

But if the Dems really do offer either Sheen or Springer against Republican Blackwell....

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that is one race that I will welcome...

I can just imagine the remarks, comments, and verbal attacks on Ken now.

WHO WILL BE FIRST TO CALL HIM &quot;Uncle Tom&quot;??

My bet, wow, this is a tough one, so many to chose from...

Sharpton, Jackson, Springer, Kucinich, Hagan, Kwezi in the belly Imfume in the butt, I got to look up how to spell his name.

CPA: how about this ticket... Blackwell/Portman?? it will set the dim-o-crats back 70 years.

At least Taft has not increased TAXES at a record pace, as did the last dim-wit Dick'ed Us Celeste.

KB9YCO
12-17-2004, 05:28 PM
I can't believe people can't get over the fact that the election IS OVER!! Enough already, I'm all for being fair and making sure all the votes are counted, but come on already. We should just be glad that it was more decisive than the horrible 2000 Florida debacle. Bush won, by a slim margin perhaps, but he won and the world will not end because of it. We've survived bad presidents from both parties before, and we will again.

K8YS
12-17-2004, 05:55 PM
Quote[/b] (KB9YCO @ Dec. 17 2004,14:28)]I can't believe people can't get over the fact that the election IS OVER!! Enough already, I'm all for being fair and making sure all the votes are counted, but come on already. We should just be glad that it was more decisive than the horrible 2000 Florida debacle. Bush won, by a slim margin perhaps, but he won and the world will not end because of it. We've survived bad presidents from both parties before, and we will again.
AMEN, but will someone please tell this to Jesse Jackson? He is in Ohio, saying how corrupt the vote was, how 90,000 people were too stupid to vote for a president, how the &quot;corrupt elections officials&quot; threw the vote. He neglected to say the fact of the matter is that the Board of Elections is 50/50 bi-partisan, so if there were so many corrupt elections officials, then 50% are democrats too... that it is entirely possible that 90,000 just did not vote for president. He should consider 90,000 votes to be for the &quot;None Of The Above&quot; party.

AMEN, Bush won, by a majority, maybe slim in percentage, but sizable in numbers, but Bush won. GET OVER IT.

I had to live thru the Clinton years of corruption, scandals of the week, mystery deaths, foreign intrigue. I lived thru the years of Carter and the “misery index”.

Gas prices are falling, unemployment in Ohio and Kentucky are the lowest in 3 years, businesses are building and stores are opening everywhere.

Things are looking up everywhere.

N7AAO
12-29-2004, 01:44 AM
And, in breaking news, this from Yahoo! News (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041228/ap_on_re_us/ohio_vote):

Quote[/b] ]TOLEDO, Ohio - Election officials finished the presidential recount in Ohio on Tuesday, with the final tally shaving about 300 votes off President Bush (news - web sites)'s six-figure margin of victory in the state that gave him a second term.

The recount shows Bush winning Ohio by 118,457 votes over John Kerry (news - web sites), according to unofficial results provided to The Associated Press by the 88 counties. Lucas County, home to Toledo, was the last to finish counting.

The state had earlier declared Bush the winner by 118,775 votes and plans to adjust its totals to reflect the recount later this week.

[...]

Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell has estimated that the recount will end up costing taxpayers $1.5 million.

Let's see... $1.5 million, 300 votes... that's about $5,000 per vote. Looks like the Democrats are being generous with the taxpayers' money again. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

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